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I'm trying to decide between the sprint galaxy s 4, and the HTC one. My concern with the HTC is ROM development, my original galaxy s gets fully working cyanogenmod before a useful rom is made for my evo 3D. This seems to be the case with most all of their devices.
Why is it this way? Will the HTC one be this way as well? I'd like to hear people's thoughts on this. Thanks.
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richyrocket said:
I'm trying to decide between the sprint galaxy s 4, and the HTC one. My concern with the HTC is ROM development, my original galaxy s gets fully working cyanogenmod before a useful rom is made for my evo 3D. This seems to be the case with most all of their devices.
Why is it this way? Will the HTC one be this way as well? I'd like to hear people's thoughts on this. Thanks.
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lol! Cyanogenmod ROM comes first before stock ROM? Ain't believing it buddy
useful ROM = Stock ROM
Nono, the evo 3d has unofficial cyanogenmod at least 3 months after the epic 4g receives official. Two, unofficial AOSP roms seem to be more stable (and released earlier) on galaxy s devices than htc devices why is that? Both being flagships, what leaves htc behind in custom AOSP roms?
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My galaxy s would be on. 2.3, it is now on 4.2. The evo would be on 4.0 with outdated sense, it is now on 4.1. Nexus 7, stock 4.2. I use stock until the phone ages, and stock isn't good enough. I plan to have my next phone for 2 years, I might as well choose a phone that will stay current throughout those two years.
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HTC supports the flagship in every way possible, look at the One X. Even the newly released One is getting OTA at a crazy rate. And for custom rom developers, my Desire HD has fully stable 4.2.2 CM, AOKP and even paranoid. I hope this was helpful
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I'm glad they support, but they only go so far. Samsung goes further. in the end if I want to run custom roms, will it flop like my evos?
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richyrocket said:
I'm glad they support, but they only go so far. Samsung goes further. in the end if I want to run custom roms, will it flop like my evos?
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I really think that the One is getting a huge developer community. Look at the android development thread. 4 ROMs already released (with tweaks) while only a few have got the device till now
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I'm beginning to think that the evo 3d was just a horrible buy. I hope that the fact they're releasing the exact same device across all networks helps development. Still can't decide between the S4 and this. Both very good phones.
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richyrocket said:
I'm beginning to think that the evo 3d was just a horrible buy. I hope that the fact they're releasing the exact same device across all networks helps development. Still can't decide between the S4 and this. Both very good phones.
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Some comparison videos on YouTube might help
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Do you know if there's much of a reliability/durability difference between htc and Samsung?
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richyrocket said:
Do you know if there's much of a reliability/durability difference between htc and Samsung?
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I've never owned a Samsung, but I've owned 2 HTCs, and my device is great in durability. I have this phone for about 2.5 years and I drop it around once every 3 days (obviously not intentionally) and it still runs good, no issues. For Samsung, you should read Samsung forums.
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Ohh ok I got it now. Unfortunately there's won't be any CM or AOSP ROMs until kernel source code is out. Thing is Stock kernel is not compatible with AOSP/CM ROMs and the other way around since both custom and stock has some functions added to the kernel for it to work.
And the thing here is samsung releases kernel source code earlier than HTC. So it really depends on the situation. And by the way samsung is not releasing opening up it's exynos to developers. And now that samsung implemented octa core & big little architecture on their new processors. I doubt they would be able to make a CM/AOSP ROM anytime soon on S4.
I know cm10.1 runs slow as heck on my wife's one x as a custom sense rom works smooth as butter. On my note 2 cm10.1 actually runs better than any touchwiz rom. My advice is to wait until there both out and go see them in person. Both phones will get a good bit of development.
Thank you so much. That's exactly what I was looking for. Do you think the unlocking/s off process going to be simple to get it to run AOSP? I had to do the horrifying "wire trick" to get AOSP on the evo 3d.
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It makes me wonder why AOSP runs so well on Samsung phones...?
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richyrocket said:
Thank you so much. That's exactly what I was looking for. Do you think the unlocking/s off process going to be simple to get it to run AOSP? I had to do the horrifying "wire trick" to get AOSP on the evo 3d.
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You don't need s-off to run aosp. You just need to unlock on htc dev or buy the dev edition one that htc will offer. But yes I'm sure in time we will get s-off for everyone. Lol.. I remember the wire trick, I used to own a rezound, horrid phone. No I just did s-off on my wife's new one x and its just a command line hack and software.
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It makes me wonder why AOSP runs so well on Samsung phones...?
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I dunno as I've run aosp on a few htc's I've had and it ran fine.
Does anyone know why the One runs 4.1 instead of 4.2? I hope they don't keep us outdated like they did with all the phones stuck on 4.0 forever.
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Does anyone know why the One runs 4.1 instead of 4.2? I hope they don't keep us outdated like they did with all the phones stuck on 4.0 forever.
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Good question and I have no answer. My hopes is it will get a 4.2.2 update soon after launch.
I was thinking maybe because I don't see most of the key features from 4.2 fitting in with sense.
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I was thinking maybe because I don't see most of the key features from 4.2 fitting in with sense.
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Doubt that, it's not unusual for phones to ship a version behind. But with the s4 shipping with the latest I'd hope htc will push an update ASAP.
My friend has the note 2 and wants to trade phones with me. I'm not sure if I want to I love my one. Anyone here have or had a note 2 give me their opinions on the two?
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My friend has the note 2 and wants to trade phones with me. I'm not sure if I want to I love my one. Anyone here have or had a note 2 give me their opinions on the two?
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note 2 has a better LTE antenna
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Dude.... You have to be trolling. Why accept a POS NOTE 2 over a premium build 1080p s600 NO LAG beast HTC ONE. To prevent you getting hammered by other members... Tell your friend **** off. He is clearly trying to screw you with no Vaseline
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Pure facts right here^, no subjective comments at all
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XaoSilentrzk said:
Dude.... You have to be trolling. Why accept a POS NOTE 2 over a premium build 1080p s600 NO LAG beast HTC ONE. To prevent you getting hammered by other members... Tell your friend **** off. He is clearly trying to screw you with no Vaseline
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I'd believe it...my cousin called me the other day n was like dude I traded my phone..naturally I asked for what n he tells me this guy on craigslist traded me a galaxy note 2...smh I wanted to pimp slap him over the phone I should have known as he didn't keep anything for a period of time..he gets a car n he's tryin to sell or trade it on cl within 4 months
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My Note 2 is awesome. But so is my HTC One. The LTE is definitely better on my Note 2. You can't ask a question like that in this section though. Biased opinions round here. It all comes down to preference.
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Sense >>> Touchwiz
I don't care how good a Samsung phone is, touchwiz is pure crap.
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If better LTE is something you're interested in.. Then trade.. I'd jump on it if a friend would offer me that trade. HTC One destroys it in almost all other categories though.
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prezmater said:
My Note 2 is awesome. But so is my HTC One. The LTE is definitely better on my Note 2. You can't ask a question like that in this section though. Biased opinions round here. It all comes down to preference.
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I see absolutely no bias here
msimindlessmsi2 said:
Sense >>> Touchwiz
I don't care how good a Samsung phone is, touchwiz is pure crap.
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OP, Sir you just have to make the "call" yourself and figure it out for yourself. And since these type of threads tend to burn-up before take off....
Thread Closed & Thanks.
Upgrade just came up and I was considering getting the One. Loved CM10 on my Epic Touch 4G and was curious what the experience was like on this device. The button configuration seems odd on this phone so I wanted to get people's thoughts. Also, is the camera as bad as some say?
Thanks in advance.
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m4rk0358 said:
Upgrade just came up and I was considering getting the One. Loved CM10 on my Epic Touch 4G and was curious what the experience was like on this device. The button configuration seems odd on this phone so I wanted to get people's thoughts. Also, is the camera as bad as some say?
Thanks in advance.
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i say hold out until the next htc phone is announced
m4rk0358 said:
Upgrade just came up and I was considering getting the One. Loved CM10 on my Epic Touch 4G and was curious what the experience was like on this device. The button configuration seems odd on this phone so I wanted to get people's thoughts. Also, is the camera as bad as some say?
Thanks in advance.
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i say it's worth it, it's always gonna be a next fone if u keep waiting for the next new thing
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i say it's worth it, it's always gonna be a next fone if u keep waiting for the next new thing
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But the HTC one is riddled with QC issues and doesn't really improve much over the last Gen of phones. The next Gen has snapdragon 800, 3000 mAh batteries and whatnot. Plus, the 800s are really close. Like the G2 is already here.
The One isn't that good IMHO. The camera is overhyped really and the number of defects people are reporting make this phone worth skipping.
To stay on track with your question the CM experience is something I don't think someone in their right mind would recomend. Hell it has a tendency to burn up some phones and need replaced.
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I agree if your sole decision is CM. Then wait. Cm was better on my gs3 than on here. It's pretty buggy and as has been said there are many reports of people's phones bricking cause of cm. To the quality control issue... I have had none, this phone has been great in that regard... But maybe I'm just lucky . In all honesty, overall this is the best phone I've ever owned. I don't think you'd go wrong with this phone.
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My $0.02:
For the short while I was able to use CM, I wasn't exactly blown away. It was exactly the same as my GS2, but with better specs. There were no extra features or anything. It looked nice with Black Infinitum, but again, not really different from my old phone. There were some bugs, so...
And you do have to watch out for the max freq lock, which will burn up your phone as it sits.
EDIT: However, CM Nemesis is coming soon. I would still wait for for a new device with better specs, but hey, this is a fairly new device.
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I agree if your sole decision is CM. Then wait. Cm was better on my gs3 than on here. It's pretty buggy and as has been said there are many reports of people's phones bricking cause of cm. To the quality control issue... I have had none, this phone has been great in that regard... But maybe I'm just lucky . In all honesty, overall this is the best phone I've ever owned. I don't think you'd go wrong with this phone.
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I really haven't had any issues since 10.1
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I used it for a week while on vacation and while it was nice to see a less bloated One with all the additional customization .. there were several issues and features that made me go back.
The biggest was GPS lock - I could not get a steady lock and if I did the radius was quite large, throwing me all over the map.
The phone actually seemed less responsive overall - including a slight delay when turning on the phone.
Missed the htc car app - google car and the ones from the market are not the same
and the IR - now it has only come in handy once, when my remote died; however, the remote can be fun at the bar
The HTCOne is a unique phone, the button layout is strange and is my biggest headache. Contrary to most posts above I like the CM experience on it better then sense, but this is my first (and only ever!) sense phone. I much prefer the AOSP experience. CM is lacking in a few places but core functionality is there and works good enough for me for daily use, for the record I'm on 10.2 20130819
Truthfully though I think I would wait for a new nexus device. I love the feel of the One in my hand but it's nothing amazing hardware wise.
You can always go GE and flash the CM mods.. GE is smooth as butter
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systemshock869 said:
You can always go GE and flash the CM mods.. GE is smooth as butter
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You can not flash GE and flash CM mods. GE is senseless but still Sense based. You will mess up your phone if you did that
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YoungCorruptionV2.0 said:
You can not flash GE and flash CM mods. GE is senseless but still Sense based. You will mess up your phone if you did that
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Aw man you're gonna make me look it up??
wrong. thanks for trying though
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Progress is being made. I just post a build in the 10.2 thread with working ir sensor.
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systemshock869 said:
Aw man you're gonna make me look it up??
wrong. thanks for trying though
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Those are mods made for GE (ported) not AOSP mods for CM
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No major issues for everyday use. I've been running nightlies since I got the phone. Battery life is awesome and no random reboots.
YoungCorruptionV2.0 said:
Those are mods made for GE (ported) not AOSP mods for CM
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Ok you lost me.. Did you click the link??
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Just a quick check guys.
Does the music still sound wonky? 10.1 would make my songs really quiet then normal then quiet etc. It drove me crazy.
Also, does the wake still take like a second? That was also a problem with 10.1.
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Just a quick check guys.
Does the music still sound wonky? 10.1 would make my songs really quiet then normal then quiet etc. It drove me crazy.
Also, does the wake still take like a second? That was also a problem with 10.1.
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On CM last I tried yeah. On GE.. No.
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the.emilio said:
On CM last I tried yeah. On GE.. No.
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Well crap. Thanks though. Are these even recognized issues?
Looks like I am going to get my note back from Mrs finbaar whiles he gets my N4. I have been in the world of Nexus for 13 months so the only roms that interest me are aosp based as I think I would faint if I had to use TouchWiz. So my question is is the TV out function working on the 4.3 roms. I am sure I read in one thread that this was unsupported but I can't find that now. Thanks for your help.
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Unsupported and there is no chance of it being supported. Also, you may be a bit shocked with the Note and AOSP
Ah great. Things are to stable in Nexus land anyway.
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Yeah got pretty sick of my Galaxy S4 and it's mf3 update. Specs really don't matter to me as long as everything is stable. The only thing I'll really miss is the ir blaster. I debated on going to the htc one all the way up to the xperia z1. I'm just gonna wait. Can anyone recommend me some good roms? Something stable with features like Halo and Focal and all the good stuff? I know there's a lot and I'm late, but I'm sure there a lot of others looking for the same answers since google sold out of nexus 4s and theres a lot of new users. I should have mine tomorrow morning.
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Welcome back lol
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Welcome back lol
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I should have never left lol
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Shame on you for thinking there is anything better than Nexus were like the spoiled children of Google. The best of everything without all the bulk and sulk bundle they merge into the OS
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Welcome back and I recommend crDroid. It's smooth and stable and has Focal and Halo and a whole lot more. You can find it in the Nexus 4 Android Development forum.
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Misledz said:
Shame on you for thinking there is anything better than Nexus were like the spoiled children of Google. The best of everything without all the bulk and sulk bundle they merge into the OS
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Well, HTC devices are very high quality, after you get past the carrier blocks to root, unlock bootloader, s-off and flash a custom rom, (aosp preferably because its always newer than sense).
But I'd rather get the updates first at the cost of a camera not being as good and ease of rooting.
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Well, HTC devices are very high quality, after you get past the carrier blocks to root, unlock bootloader, s-off and flash a custom rom, (aosp preferably because its always newer than sense).
But I'd rather get the updates first at the cost of a camera not being as good and ease of rooting.
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I agree. HTC is my favorite when it comes to hardware. I've had the N1 and a One X+ from them.This is going to be my first LG. I know when Google works with companies on their Nexus phones they're usually top notch. My last one was a Galaxy Nexus and I was amazed by the build and it felt perfect in the hands. I can't wait to see how the Nexus 5 is.
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Google would have done HTC. But I guess Apple saw the opportunity when it came to HTC and their build.
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Google would have done HTC. But I guess Apple saw the opportunity when it came to HTC and their build.
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Yes, I think you are right, but as we commented in another thread the other day (the sony nexus concept phone) there are some brands who could never work with google to make THE NEXUS. They can make google editions, as samsung and htc did, but the nexus, in my opinion, has to be a cheaper phone, so sony and htc should be out of this game...
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Yes, I think you are right, but as we commented in another thread the other day (the sony nexus concept phone) there are some brands who could never work with google to make THE NEXUS. They can make google editions, as samsung and htc did, but the nexus, in my opinion, has to be a cheaper phone, so sony and htc should be out of this game...
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Sony loves competition. They're all about competition. They're so addicted to it that just to combat the Nexus 7 they made a Xperia tablet Z, kitchen edition. What the hell? links below
http://store.sony.com/p/Sony-Tablet,-Kitchen-Tablet,-iGrill-Thermometer/en/p/SGP312U2/WC
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Misledz said:
Sony loves competition. They're all about competition. They're so addicted to it that just to combat the Nexus 7 they made a Xperia tablet Z, kitchen edition. What the hell? links below
http://store.sony.com/p/Sony-Tablet,-Kitchen-Tablet,-iGrill-Thermometer/en/p/SGP312U2/WC
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Wow, tha'ts true but... what a tablet uh? How much is it?
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Wow, tha'ts true but... what a tablet uh? How much is it?
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Around $650-700 USD they estimated it. Comes with a meat thermometer LOL
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Around $650-700 USD they estimated it. Comes with a meat thermometer LOL
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Lol! and if buy it now, we will send u another one for free!! They don't know what to invent...
650-700 USD isn't competition with the $229 Nexus 7... I think
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Lol! and if buy it now, we will send u another one for free!! They don't know what to invent...
650-700 USD isn't competition with the $229 Nexus 7... I think
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True but the fact that it boasts about waterproof, build quality and parts, gaming controller instigation for Ps3 and PS4 it's almost like they know how to build a sturdy tablet. Nexus 7 just has a popular dad and a reliable company which makes it popular.
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Yeah got pretty sick of my Galaxy S4 and it's mf3 update. Specs really don't matter to me as long as everything is stable. The only thing I'll really miss is the ir blaster. I debated on going to the htc one all the way up to the xperia z1. I'm just gonna wait. Can anyone recommend me some good roms? Something stable with features like Halo and Focal and all the good stuff? I know there's a lot and I'm late, but I'm sure there a lot of others looking for the same answers since google sold out of nexus 4s and theres a lot of new users. I should have mine tomorrow morning.
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Welcome back! Honestly though, did you use the IR blaster very often?
I personally dont know if i would use it much.
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Welcome back! Honestly though, did you use the IR blaster very often?
I personally dont know if i would use it much.
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I actually used it a lot. I would use it when I lost my remotes and got too lazy to look for them. At the sports bars to mess with my friends and some other random things. The funniest part of having it was when people would ask what app I used. Mainly iPhone users. Then i would have to explain it needs an ir blaster! Maybe the next iPhone will have them (not) lol
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Try Vanir ROM. It's the smoothest and fastest I've used, it has some unique features and a CM10.2 base. Also has Pie, Halo, Focal and tons of USEFUL tweaks.
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Welcome back... but sorry, ROM recommendation threads aren't allowed. Just read and search and flash away.
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