I'm trying to decide between the sprint galaxy s 4, and the HTC one. My concern with the HTC is ROM development, my original galaxy s gets fully working cyanogenmod before a useful rom is made for my evo 3D. This seems to be the case with most all of their devices.
Why is it this way? Will the HTC one be this way as well? I'd like to hear people's thoughts on this. Thanks.
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I'm trying to decide between the sprint galaxy s 4, and the HTC one. My concern with the HTC is ROM development, my original galaxy s gets fully working cyanogenmod before a useful rom is made for my evo 3D. This seems to be the case with most all of their devices.
Why is it this way? Will the HTC one be this way as well? I'd like to hear people's thoughts on this. Thanks.
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lol! Cyanogenmod ROM comes first before stock ROM? Ain't believing it buddy
useful ROM = Stock ROM
Nono, the evo 3d has unofficial cyanogenmod at least 3 months after the epic 4g receives official. Two, unofficial AOSP roms seem to be more stable (and released earlier) on galaxy s devices than htc devices why is that? Both being flagships, what leaves htc behind in custom AOSP roms?
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My galaxy s would be on. 2.3, it is now on 4.2. The evo would be on 4.0 with outdated sense, it is now on 4.1. Nexus 7, stock 4.2. I use stock until the phone ages, and stock isn't good enough. I plan to have my next phone for 2 years, I might as well choose a phone that will stay current throughout those two years.
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HTC supports the flagship in every way possible, look at the One X. Even the newly released One is getting OTA at a crazy rate. And for custom rom developers, my Desire HD has fully stable 4.2.2 CM, AOKP and even paranoid. I hope this was helpful
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I'm glad they support, but they only go so far. Samsung goes further. in the end if I want to run custom roms, will it flop like my evos?
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I'm glad they support, but they only go so far. Samsung goes further. in the end if I want to run custom roms, will it flop like my evos?
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I really think that the One is getting a huge developer community. Look at the android development thread. 4 ROMs already released (with tweaks) while only a few have got the device till now
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I'm beginning to think that the evo 3d was just a horrible buy. I hope that the fact they're releasing the exact same device across all networks helps development. Still can't decide between the S4 and this. Both very good phones.
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I'm beginning to think that the evo 3d was just a horrible buy. I hope that the fact they're releasing the exact same device across all networks helps development. Still can't decide between the S4 and this. Both very good phones.
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Some comparison videos on YouTube might help
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Do you know if there's much of a reliability/durability difference between htc and Samsung?
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Do you know if there's much of a reliability/durability difference between htc and Samsung?
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I've never owned a Samsung, but I've owned 2 HTCs, and my device is great in durability. I have this phone for about 2.5 years and I drop it around once every 3 days (obviously not intentionally) and it still runs good, no issues. For Samsung, you should read Samsung forums.
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Ohh ok I got it now. Unfortunately there's won't be any CM or AOSP ROMs until kernel source code is out. Thing is Stock kernel is not compatible with AOSP/CM ROMs and the other way around since both custom and stock has some functions added to the kernel for it to work.
And the thing here is samsung releases kernel source code earlier than HTC. So it really depends on the situation. And by the way samsung is not releasing opening up it's exynos to developers. And now that samsung implemented octa core & big little architecture on their new processors. I doubt they would be able to make a CM/AOSP ROM anytime soon on S4.
I know cm10.1 runs slow as heck on my wife's one x as a custom sense rom works smooth as butter. On my note 2 cm10.1 actually runs better than any touchwiz rom. My advice is to wait until there both out and go see them in person. Both phones will get a good bit of development.
Thank you so much. That's exactly what I was looking for. Do you think the unlocking/s off process going to be simple to get it to run AOSP? I had to do the horrifying "wire trick" to get AOSP on the evo 3d.
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It makes me wonder why AOSP runs so well on Samsung phones...?
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Thank you so much. That's exactly what I was looking for. Do you think the unlocking/s off process going to be simple to get it to run AOSP? I had to do the horrifying "wire trick" to get AOSP on the evo 3d.
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You don't need s-off to run aosp. You just need to unlock on htc dev or buy the dev edition one that htc will offer. But yes I'm sure in time we will get s-off for everyone. Lol.. I remember the wire trick, I used to own a rezound, horrid phone. No I just did s-off on my wife's new one x and its just a command line hack and software.
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It makes me wonder why AOSP runs so well on Samsung phones...?
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I dunno as I've run aosp on a few htc's I've had and it ran fine.
Does anyone know why the One runs 4.1 instead of 4.2? I hope they don't keep us outdated like they did with all the phones stuck on 4.0 forever.
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Does anyone know why the One runs 4.1 instead of 4.2? I hope they don't keep us outdated like they did with all the phones stuck on 4.0 forever.
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Good question and I have no answer. My hopes is it will get a 4.2.2 update soon after launch.
I was thinking maybe because I don't see most of the key features from 4.2 fitting in with sense.
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I was thinking maybe because I don't see most of the key features from 4.2 fitting in with sense.
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Doubt that, it's not unusual for phones to ship a version behind. But with the s4 shipping with the latest I'd hope htc will push an update ASAP.
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noob question will it support these themes, dying for that isms theme
I know it's my fault for even responding but...
What are you even talking about? Will it support what themes? There's not a MIUI ROM for the Vivid.
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That's what I meant, I kinda feel ripped off with this phone and att's hiked prices.
I miss my EVO
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You won't see miui until you see cm
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I am super keen on miui as well, and as it is based on CyanogenMod for drivers and behind the scenes stuff, yes cm must come to our phones first.
This was the one thing making me hesitate between the velocity and the galaxy nexus in the end, I figured it would be ported eventually and rolled the dice... hopefully I don't get snake eyes
I'll prolly end up with the next generation iPhone before this happens
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You should have researched which phones of the current generation already support MIUI, SGS2 and and SGN already have it
Hey guys i'm looking for a rom that is unique and not just nova/trebucht/apex launcher. Something really unique and different. I'm currently trying out miui.
MIUI on the Nexus 7... that is just an upscaled version of the same UI that you get on every phone that MIUI supports.
Other ROMs are also a no-go if you want something different, because all of them more or less use the same UI as AOSP.
You could try Paranoid Android, but somehow it was not really appealing, at least not to me.
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MIUI on the Nexus 7... that is just an upscaled version of the same UI that you get on every phone that MIUI supports.
Other ROMs are also a no-go if you want something different, because all of them more or less use the same UI as AOSP.
You could try Paranoid Android, but somehow it was not really appealing, at least not to me.
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there is nothing that's themed differently or different at all? Getting bored of the same layout. Although I think ubuntu fir N7 mobile version is releasing tomorrow.
Honestly, as a ROM junkie, I've just stuck with stock since there isn't really much of a compelling reason to change. Maybe just try a different launcher? I admit, I've loved MIUI on a phone, but have no desire to use it on a tablet unless it gets tabletified.
AW: Most unique/different ROM
I'm also a little bit bored of all those same looking roms
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I'm also a little bit bored of all those same looking roms
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Would be nice to get a ROM that was really different. Completely themed or laid out very unique, and done well. Fingers crossed.
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Could be worse, you could have an iPhone.
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Lol the problem with the N7 is that its just too perfect lol
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Sense 4 sure would be beautiful on the Nexus 7, a dev friend of mine tired of the same look is working on some different stuff, maybe he will pull through with something kinda crazy.
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Tablet ui is pretty nice. Saves screen space, make it look like it should have out the box.
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Go back to GB. They had lots of cool looking roms!
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Actually if you're looking for something kinda different, you could try Protos for the n7! It's really nice
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Go back to GB. They had lots of cool looking roms!
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Gingerbread? Really? I hope your kidding...
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2038920
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Gingerbread? Really? I hope your kidding...
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Well....the Roms all had different looks and themes. Ics had a few different looking themed roms ...but jb roms mostly all look the same.
I wasn't really seriously suggesting going to gb ...I know u wouldn't ....but he asked about unique looking roms .....and gb definitely had that.
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I have been reading about this lately. From what I understand is that it can be ported to any device capable of running CM 10.1.....CM 10.1 and CM 10 are both jellybean. Is it possible to use CM 10 as the base since we have it?
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There are still bugs in the jb roms so let's focus on that first then we could port ubuntu
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I have it on my nexus 7.. Tbh it kinda sucks.. I have a computer for a reason. Its a refreshing experience though
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I have it on my nexus 7.. Tbh it kinda sucks.. I have a computer for a reason. Its a refreshing experience though
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I think it is too early to use it..not everything is working yet. It's just a demo of ui
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yeah , theres really nothing interesting u can do with it, unless maybe your a developer...installed it when it was released and have only played with it once
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This is the main reason I myself got so deeply interested in the Android community. I've been strictly a Linux user for years (Windows and the whole Microsoft company are way to money hungry and can't develop anything worthwhile), and although Ubuntu isn't my distro of choice I would love to have it ported to my device.
A dual boot scenario of Android and Ubuntu would be awesome!:victory:
Multi booting Android/Ubuntu is possible on a Nexus 7, and it works wonderfully. I would recommend you get one if that is what you've been longing for. Check the forums here. It's pretty easy to do. Here's a link for ya. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2011403
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yeah, multirom works great on N7, but I dont think the vivid has any kind of dual booting support...
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Any updates on this? Has anyone been working on it?
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I'm waiting on a port of this for my Transformer Prime. Might pick up a Nexus 7 though.
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bugs will always be in the way.
Hey guys.I just get my N4 a few days ago,coming from HTC device.I am a Sense fan.I want to start a project porting Sense 5 from Droid DNA.Searching for team members,who know something about porting.Who's in ?
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Hey guys.I just get my N4 a few days ago,coming from HTC device.I am a Sense fan.I want to start a project porting Sense 5 from Droid DNA.Searching for team members,who know something about porting.Who's in ?
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I don't know anything about porting or making ROMs but I would love to see a port of sense 5
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About time! In the nexus 7 forums someone made a touchwiz rom and I asked about sense and was told it's impossible. Given the similarities in the htc one x, and htc one architecture vs our chipset I don't think it's impossible, not at all. I'd love to help if I knew how to develop, but best of luck to ya!
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Count me in for testing and applications, but as for coding, I'm a lost cause, even with a masters in tech. I can show someone how to USE or APPLY a product in the field once its created, but creation, I'll leave it to the pros! If there is anything I can do on the application/UI/FAQ/Help side that doesn't require coding, let me know.
I can definitely do any testing you need
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About time! In the nexus 7 forums someone made a touchwiz rom and I asked about sense and was told it's impossible. Given the similarities in the htc one x, and htc one architecture vs our chipset I don't think it's impossible, not at all. I'd love to help if I knew how to develop, but best of luck to ya!
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The issue has nothing to do with chipsets or hardware. It is all software. Sense requires HTC frameworks and drivers to work. Many have tried and in the end things like data, wi-fi, GPS and things like that dont work. Trust me many high level devs have tried it and all have failed.
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The issue has nothing to do with chipsets or hardware. It is all software. Sense requires HTC frameworks and drivers to work. Many have tried and in the end things like data, wi-fi, GPS and things like that dont work. Trust me many high level devs have tried it and all have failed.
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I get that but it's not impossible. Usually if you can find a device with the same chipset, it can be done. Devs in the HTC Flyer forum got ics with sense 4.0 ported because of the HTC One V having the same chipset. For us, DROID DNA would be the best place to start.
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I get that but it's not impossible. Usually if you can find a device with the same chipset, it can be done. Devs in the HTC Flyer forum got ics with sense 4.0 ported because of the HTC One V having the same chipset. For us, DROID DNA would be the best place to start.
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They were both HTC devices. The first nexus from HTC got a sense port as well.
Does htc modify their hardware in some way? You'd think underneath it all they would be identical to everything else. Forgive me I'm not a developer.
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Does htc modify their hardware in some way? You'd think underneath it all they would be identical to everything else. Forgive me I'm not a developer.
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It is mostly a driver issue. The drivers are only made to work with HTC hardware. While the base hardware is the same things like the radio antenna, wifi, antenna, and things like this are different depending on the device. They are also programed very differently depending on the OEM. Without any of the Sense drivers for the OS those things dont work. This is how OEM keep their version of Android on their devices alone.
It shouldn't be really hard,target device is HTC Butterfly because has a 4.2.2 Sense ROM.I'll try 2morrow.
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It shouldn't be really hard,target device is HTC Butterfly because has a 4.2.2 Sense ROM.I'll try 2morrow.
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Have a look at the other Dev threads about this. They maybe able to help and save you alot of trouble. Good luck.
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Have a look at the other Dev threads about this. They maybe able to help and save you alot of trouble. Good luck.
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Thanks.I've already talked to a good porter,he also ported Sense 5,he will help me.
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It shouldn't be really hard,target device is HTC Butterfly because has a 4.2.2 Sense ROM.I'll try 2morrow.
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If you need anyone to test let me know
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Tried to port sense this way some days before I saw this.
I was pretty sure it would fail, but I gave it a try.
The only thing I reached was a bootloop
Upgrade just came up and I was considering getting the One. Loved CM10 on my Epic Touch 4G and was curious what the experience was like on this device. The button configuration seems odd on this phone so I wanted to get people's thoughts. Also, is the camera as bad as some say?
Thanks in advance.
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Upgrade just came up and I was considering getting the One. Loved CM10 on my Epic Touch 4G and was curious what the experience was like on this device. The button configuration seems odd on this phone so I wanted to get people's thoughts. Also, is the camera as bad as some say?
Thanks in advance.
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i say hold out until the next htc phone is announced
m4rk0358 said:
Upgrade just came up and I was considering getting the One. Loved CM10 on my Epic Touch 4G and was curious what the experience was like on this device. The button configuration seems odd on this phone so I wanted to get people's thoughts. Also, is the camera as bad as some say?
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i say it's worth it, it's always gonna be a next fone if u keep waiting for the next new thing
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i say it's worth it, it's always gonna be a next fone if u keep waiting for the next new thing
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But the HTC one is riddled with QC issues and doesn't really improve much over the last Gen of phones. The next Gen has snapdragon 800, 3000 mAh batteries and whatnot. Plus, the 800s are really close. Like the G2 is already here.
The One isn't that good IMHO. The camera is overhyped really and the number of defects people are reporting make this phone worth skipping.
To stay on track with your question the CM experience is something I don't think someone in their right mind would recomend. Hell it has a tendency to burn up some phones and need replaced.
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I agree if your sole decision is CM. Then wait. Cm was better on my gs3 than on here. It's pretty buggy and as has been said there are many reports of people's phones bricking cause of cm. To the quality control issue... I have had none, this phone has been great in that regard... But maybe I'm just lucky . In all honesty, overall this is the best phone I've ever owned. I don't think you'd go wrong with this phone.
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My $0.02:
For the short while I was able to use CM, I wasn't exactly blown away. It was exactly the same as my GS2, but with better specs. There were no extra features or anything. It looked nice with Black Infinitum, but again, not really different from my old phone. There were some bugs, so...
And you do have to watch out for the max freq lock, which will burn up your phone as it sits.
EDIT: However, CM Nemesis is coming soon. I would still wait for for a new device with better specs, but hey, this is a fairly new device.
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I agree if your sole decision is CM. Then wait. Cm was better on my gs3 than on here. It's pretty buggy and as has been said there are many reports of people's phones bricking cause of cm. To the quality control issue... I have had none, this phone has been great in that regard... But maybe I'm just lucky . In all honesty, overall this is the best phone I've ever owned. I don't think you'd go wrong with this phone.
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I really haven't had any issues since 10.1
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I used it for a week while on vacation and while it was nice to see a less bloated One with all the additional customization .. there were several issues and features that made me go back.
The biggest was GPS lock - I could not get a steady lock and if I did the radius was quite large, throwing me all over the map.
The phone actually seemed less responsive overall - including a slight delay when turning on the phone.
Missed the htc car app - google car and the ones from the market are not the same
and the IR - now it has only come in handy once, when my remote died; however, the remote can be fun at the bar
The HTCOne is a unique phone, the button layout is strange and is my biggest headache. Contrary to most posts above I like the CM experience on it better then sense, but this is my first (and only ever!) sense phone. I much prefer the AOSP experience. CM is lacking in a few places but core functionality is there and works good enough for me for daily use, for the record I'm on 10.2 20130819
Truthfully though I think I would wait for a new nexus device. I love the feel of the One in my hand but it's nothing amazing hardware wise.
You can always go GE and flash the CM mods.. GE is smooth as butter
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You can always go GE and flash the CM mods.. GE is smooth as butter
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You can not flash GE and flash CM mods. GE is senseless but still Sense based. You will mess up your phone if you did that
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You can not flash GE and flash CM mods. GE is senseless but still Sense based. You will mess up your phone if you did that
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Aw man you're gonna make me look it up??
wrong. thanks for trying though
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Progress is being made. I just post a build in the 10.2 thread with working ir sensor.
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Aw man you're gonna make me look it up??
wrong. thanks for trying though
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Those are mods made for GE (ported) not AOSP mods for CM
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No major issues for everyday use. I've been running nightlies since I got the phone. Battery life is awesome and no random reboots.
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Those are mods made for GE (ported) not AOSP mods for CM
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Ok you lost me.. Did you click the link??
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Just a quick check guys.
Does the music still sound wonky? 10.1 would make my songs really quiet then normal then quiet etc. It drove me crazy.
Also, does the wake still take like a second? That was also a problem with 10.1.
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Just a quick check guys.
Does the music still sound wonky? 10.1 would make my songs really quiet then normal then quiet etc. It drove me crazy.
Also, does the wake still take like a second? That was also a problem with 10.1.
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On CM last I tried yeah. On GE.. No.
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On CM last I tried yeah. On GE.. No.
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Well crap. Thanks though. Are these even recognized issues?