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[ROM][IML74K] ICZen rc1.4 - Royale with Cheese - 3-24-12 [Deficient Development]

I have a dream, that one day my fellow brethren will be noticed and respected for their contributions.
I have a dream, that actual contributors to the community will garner a bit more respect from the mods of their respective forums.
I have a dream, that not only the community and the developers live together in harmony, but that mods (in other forums) aren't going to be total micro managing assholes going on a power trip.
I have a dream.
Oka1, you are ****ing great man, the best! But some of your fellow mods are really getting to be jackasses, and having driven one of my good friends and newly formed team mates away, I am going to follow suit.
I'm taking all my **** down from XDA, and moving to Greener Pastures.
Please, join us.

Moved 10char

Sorry guys

Not even going to bother porting , downloading now.........
Edit: still might

Downloading now and will test after dinner.

Yay Go Brick'd!!
Sent from my Vibrant

jeremy2420 said:
Not even going to bother porting , downloading now.........
Edit: still might
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LOL, do your thing man. This is not going to stick to the pure AOKP design, just borrowing the best parts of it for this frankenkang.

Br1cK'd said:
LOL, do your thing man. This is not going to stick to the pure AOKP design, just borrowing the best parts of it for this frankenkang.
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Yeah I was going to leave it as is just a strait port, maybe inverted apps that's about it.
Edit: Your boot animation is awesome!

About time :-D
Sent from my phone, not yours.

This is just a great project, I am sure it will be packed with quality and functional
w0w Br1cK'd,
This is just a great project, I am sure it will be packed with quality and functionality above features and eye candy.
Downloading....

I've been waiting for the zen to come to ICS. What can I say? I like you're style. Congrats on the new release friend. I can't wait to try it out.
Sent from my ZenDroid using XDA Premium

hell yeah!

Which battery mods do we use?
Sent from my phone, not yours.

Smartassassin said:
Which battery mods do we use?
Sent from my phone, not yours.
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The ones that are in the Rom Control through Settings. Thank our boy Romanbb for all that funky stuff. I prefer the battery bar in the status bar myself, and hiding the normal battery icon.

My warranty is void now Brick'd thanks my man keep up the good work

Looks good man!

Are you able to resize widgets with the launcher?
Sent from my phone, not yours.

Thanks for the good words everyone, I hope the initial tests are going smoothly, please report issues so they can be logged and addressed.
I don't deserve much credit for this, all of the sources came from others, I just put them together how I see they best fit. My biggest contribution was getting the external to mount on the SGS with the crespo (nexus s) source framework.
When I have the time, I'm going to get my Linux box up and running, with the goal being to build ICS from source, directly and solely for the Vibrant, since well thats the phone I have, and still rock.
Until I can get a solid build going from source for us, I feel this is a suitable substitute.

Smartassassin said:
Are you able to resize widgets with the launcher?
Sent from my phone, not yours.
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Its the stocklauncher, I don't think you can.

Br1cK'd said:
Its the stocklauncher, I don't think you can.
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no problem, outside of that, this ****e is smooth. Good work man
Sent from my phone, not yours.

[ICS MOD] Advanced Power Menu: Reboot to recovery/bootloader, Hotreboot

abandoned: See post 3

....nothing more to say.

Thank shingers5
...for it (-:

Mm just flashed this and it's either i have done something wrong, as it is not showing up on the screen.
Strange

Schumi 01 said:
Mm just flashed this and it's either i have done something wrong, as it is not showing up on the screen.
Strange
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..you have to press teh reboot button first to see the menu (-:

Schumi 01 said:
Mm just flashed this and it's either i have done something wrong, as it is not showing up on the screen.
Strange
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Hehe as Homer would say Doh !!!!
Thanks

Schumi 01 said:
Hehe as Homer would say Doh !!!!
Thanks
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You're welcome.

j4n87 said:
PLEASE READ
Sharing policy
Before using my work, write a PM and ask for permission . Then you have to wait at least ONE week after the offcial relase in this thread, before including it in your rom/theme.
Pls respect this little rule!​
Downloads:
APM
Pls consider taking the 1st link to give me a small return for my work, or consider donating (-;
ICS Sense APM Mirror: ICS Sense APM Mirror2: ICS Sense APM
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Edited as not to cause any further debate on this.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium

shingers5 said:
What's with that rule? This is a sharing community and as long as you get credited for your work what's with this waiting lark. What's wrong with xda these days? I am sure along the way you have used stuff provided by others and they didn't have you wait. Sorry if you don't like my stance but hey its my opinion
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...most dumb post I've ever seen in the last months.
I really trying to raise the user experience of users by spending a lot of time and effort in those mods....and I'm doing a lot of mods as you can see in my signature.
Well you can believe it or not, I dont just spent hours on those mods, more like days and weeks. On my leedroid tweaks project even months.
..and I'm doing this for fun and SHARE it with YOU for FREE!
So what the problem when I just put one rule up for DEVS and THEMERS to wait a t least on week before including it?
On that way I can ensure some activity in my threads and not to lose all users by day one, because all are kanging me on day two?
...YOu're really a poor guy - You are talking about whats with xda now?
Look at yourself, too much ignorant7dumb users here just leechicng stuff without beeing able to eben thank a dev for therer time spending in their projects.
Could write even more...you really made my day..worse. Thx.

j4n87 said:
...most dumb post I've ever seen in the last months.
I really trying to raise the user experience of users by spending a lot of time and effort in those mods....and I'm doing a lot of mods as you can see in my signature.
Well you can believe it or not, I dont just spent hours on those mods, more like days and weeks. On my leedroid tweaks project even months.
..and I'm doing this for fun and SHARE it with YOU for FREE!
So what the problem when I just put one rule up for DEVS and THEMERS to wait a t least on week before including it?
On that way I can ensure some activity in my threads and not to lose all users by day one, because all are kanging me on day two?
...YOu're really a poor guy - You are talking about whats with xda now?
Look at yourself, too much ignorant7dumb users here just leechicng stuff without beeing able to eben thank a dev for therer time spending in their projects.
Could write even more...you really made my day..worse. Thx.
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Dumb? Asking people to wait a week to get permission to use your work and you call me dumb? Yea request they ask your permission and give you credit for your hard work but wait a week! Man people like you is what's wrong with xda and no dumb leechers in here. The guy posted and stated it wasn't his work and direct linked to your thread. No problem with that at all. All he did wrong was provid file on download. He was tryna to help not leech. There is a major difference
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium

j4n87 said:
abandoned: See post 3
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don`t do this its not good for all of us, it was cool, but i don`t dowload it because i am not rooted, but i realy what this Advanced Power Menu when i root my SXL and flash ICS
so i ask you to take it back

Lol abandoned because I didn't share his views on sharing! Lol and shows how people here think they are bigger than xda. I have no respect for guys who try do nonsense like that... I am entitled to my opinion and even if sometimes not totally right doesn't mean you play god and punish others.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium

-=AsteriX=- said:
don`t do this its not good for all of us, it was cool, but i don`t dowload it because i am not rooted, but i realy what this Advanced Power Menu when i root my SXL and flash ICS
so i ask you to take it back
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Don't beg dude as that's what he wants. No one abandons anything cause of the opinion of one person. If he is an adult he will put it back as we all can't agree which is what makes us INDIVIDUAL
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium

j4n87 said:
....nothing more to say.
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I will however apologise if I came across a bit strong armed and hope you accept my apology. No point in others not benefiting from this as its not fair
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium
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And before you guys start moaning about this being abandoned please remember that you can always grab it from the OP thread and flash yourself. I have flashed both manually and they work great. Just grab them from the Sensation thread. Not natively made for XL but it works.

These are your worst words/posts on XDA Shingers5
You'd be happy we develop **** for you, so you can play around with your device.
And you start **** like this.... Did not think YOU would

DutchDanny said:
These are your worst words/posts on XDA Shingers5
You'd be happy we develop **** for you, so you can play around with your device.
And you start **** like this.... Did not think YOU would
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What **** did you develop for me to play with dude? How many chefs are there on xda providing Roms for how many devices! Chefs are not gods mate as without us mere users there would be no need for chefs. One can't go without the other. This is your worst post on here as well! Know your place dude for real! You choose to do something you enjoy and make it available to us but without us using your **** who would you be? You guys need to come off this high horse mentality crap dude. Tired of it. Many chefs on here do what you guys do and none have that attitude. I am entitled to express my opinion and just cause you don't agree with me doesn't make you right!

shingers5 said:
What **** did you develop for me to play with dude? How many chefs are there on xda providing Roms for how many devices! Chefs are not gods mate as without us mere users there would be no need for chefs. One can't go without the other. This is your worst post on here as well! Know your place dude for real! You choose to do something you enjoy and make it available to us but without us using your **** who would you be? You guys need to come off this high horse mentality crap dude. Tired of it. Many chefs on here do what you guys do and none have that attitude. I am entitled to express my opinion and just cause you don't agree with me doesn't make you right!
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I don't have an attitude, and develop my rom for my pleassure....
I don't need users, this is made to make MY phone look nice, and if other people like it, they are free to use it.

DutchDanny said:
I don't have an attitude, and develop my rom for my pleassure....
I don't need users, this is made to make MY phone look nice, and if other people like it, they are free to use it.
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lol if you didnt need users why be a dev on here and make your rom public? you would just keep it for your own private consumption period. the mere fact it is here on xda means you crave that following that comes from users liking your work and thanking you for it! i like your work but wont kiss ass because i do! if you posted something i didnt like id tell you same way! you must have had people who didnt like your work but you didnt stop all dev cause of it did you? we are adults in here and this childish attitude is not acceptable.
you may want to retract that statement about not wanting users mate as they are who made you who you are on here. if they all hated your **** or didnt use it you would be nothing on here and wouldnt still be dev_ing. oh and i never said you had an attitude but dont be judging me dude. i will freely express my opinion always

shingers5 said:
lol if you didnt need users why be a dev on here and make your rom public? you would just keep it for your own private consumption period. the mere fact it is here on xda means you crave that following that comes from users liking your work and thanking you for it! i like your work but wont kiss ass because i do! if you posted something i didnt like id tell you same way! you must have had people who didnt like your work but you didnt stop all dev cause of it did you? we are adults in here and this childish attitude is not acceptable.
you may want to retract that statement about not wanting users mate as they are who made you who you are on here. if they all hated your **** or didnt use it you would be nothing on here and wouldnt still be dev_ing. oh and i never said you had an attitude but dont be judging me dude. i will freely express my opinion always
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Everybody is entitled to there opinion, you ..me.. and all here
But we are NOT all adults here, and English is for a lot NOT there native language...
So the way you write down your opinion is very delicate.
I respect you for what you do for the community, even if your not called a dev.
You are a very helpfull person... Thats why I did not expect you to write your opinion like the way you do.

Sharing policy
Before using my work, write a PM and ask for permission . Then you have to wait at least ONE week after the offcial relase in this thread, before including it in your rom/theme.
Pls respect this little rule!
just to get things clear, i wasnt "using" ur work! im just a poor user lol .. i was "sharing" ur work "under ur name" (((copy paste links))).. i was helping "you" b4 helping users, so XL users would know more about you and your good job, n u didnt appreciate it.. whatever.. didnt really like what u've done.. still good job and thank you for this

BinDroid ROM Coming Soon, Need Assistance

Hello XDA, the last few weeks have been a little crazy around here and we lost some great devs. As a result I've gotten the bug to mod ICS myself. I am on the BinDroid team but for the last 6 months have been working two jobs and I have two toddlers so my dev time have been almost zero. Anyway, I have been working with DutchDanny (he does all of the images for BinDroid) over the last few days and have the beginnings of a BinDroid Vivid ROM.
I have a pretty thick skin but hopefully the drama won't be to bad. That being said I am still working two jobs so once the first beta comes out updates might be slow. As long as you can deal with that BinDroid might work for you.
I do need a little assistance to get the beta complete. Neither frameworkres.apk or SystemUI.apk will recompile properly, even without modification they will not recompile. I tried using UOT Kitchen as a shortcut, but it can't recompile the files either. Is there a dev out there that has had any success decompiling and recompiling those two apks? I just need to mod a few XML's and add a few new one to get some animations going.
If anyone has any dev or mod experience and you would lik to help, that will speed up the updates Danny doesn't have a Vivid so he is working on the Sensation XE right now.

I'm sure we will all be patient with your work. Most of us understand and are grateful for any type of development at all and welcome all of it. Honestly, you don't have a lot to worry about, our vivid section isn't too bad. There were only a few rotten apples that ruined it for everyone. Can't wait to see what you have in store.

Welcome~
Well, I hope this helps
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21750986&postcount=1

Good to hear! With Pirateghost's leaving I was wondering who would take up the charge on more custom ICS ROMs. Good luck to you cyber_pete!!

bananacakes said:
Welcome~
Well, I hope this helps
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21750986&postcount=1
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Ah, thank you bananacakes, this looks promising. I couldn't get passed the error with the "<anim name="htc_ime_decelerate_interpolator">@anim/zzz_htc_ime_decelerate_interpolator</anim>" file.
I will give this a try when the kids go to sleep. Thanks again.

cyber_pete said:
Ah, thank you bananacakes, this looks promising. I couldn't get passed the error with the "<anim name="htc_ime_decelerate_interpolator">@anim/zzz_htc_ime_decelerate_interpolator</anim>" file.
I will give this a try when the kids go to sleep. Thanks again.
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decompile framework-res
1)Try to extract ICS_apktool.zip
2)copy two file(framework-res.apk & com.htc.resourses.apk) to apktool decompile folder
3)run to Command Prompt.bat
3)apktool if framework-res.apk
apktool if com.htc.resourses.apk
4)apktool d framework-res.apk
5)go to res/values/anims.xml
change this
<anim name="htc_ime_decelerate_interpolator">@anim/zzz_htc_ime_decelerate_interpolator</anim>
to
<item type="anim" name="htc_ime_decelerate_interpolator">@anim/zzz_htc_ime_decelerate_interpolator</item>
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recompile framework-res
1) copy framework-res folder to apktool compile folder
2)run to Command Prompt.bat
3) apktool b framework-res
rebuilt succeed.....

This is great to see. I used BinDroid on my Inspire at times and it was a top notch ROM.
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using Tapatalk

Thank you CP and BC! Some of us noob types are going to try and play along as well. After we get some experience, I'm sure we would be happy to help with things as well. Good luck!

*drools with stupid look on face.
Yeah what bananacakes said :screwy:
I kinda wanna get into developing but I feel that I'm too mentally challenged for this.
Sent from my HTC Raider X710e using XDA

Awesome a Dev willing to take on the Vivid section lol, please don't quit on us.
So just out of curiosity what kind of features are you thinking of including?
'cause if you need any ideas there's a thread in the general section that's
basically only suggestions for a dev to browse over. =D

There shouldn't be anymore drama since the banhammer threat has been made, I doubt there will be people risking getting band, yet again, the Vivid forum is filled with noobs

Crimson Ghoul said:
There shouldn't be anymore drama since the banhammer threat has been made, I doubt there will be people risking getting band, yet again, the Vivid forum is filled with noobs
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Drama was obviously caused by people who don't know the forum rules to begin with but...... having the banhammer threat is a nice back up

penguinfishies said:
Drama was obviously caused by people who don't know the forum rules to begin with but...... having the banhammer threat is a nice back up
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haha yeah. I avoid PMing the OP's. It's kind of rude. They put in so much effort into writing the instructions and people ignore it, flash the way they flashed on other phones and brick their machines. I come from the Inspire so I've used the Bindroid roms before. It was smooth but sometimes it was heavy on the ram. It could get me as low as 90 mb. The Vivid is much more powerful and once someone sets the clock speed back to 1.5 Ghz it will be much better.

DownTheCross said:
Awesome a Dev willing to take on the Vivid section lol, please don't quit on us.
So just out of curiosity what kind of features are you thinking of including?
'cause if you need any ideas there's a thread in the general section that's
basically only suggestions for a dev to browse over. =D
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We will start with a clean stable BD themed ROM. I already added an extended quick settings menu. We are looking into the extended power menu. Hoping to get the beta out very soon. I am thinking of doing a prerelease so maybe we can get it tested first since I don't have a full Vivid team right now.
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cyber_pete said:
We will start with a clean stable BD themed ROM. I already added an extended quick settings menu. We are looking into the extended power menu. Hoping to get the beta out very soon. I am thinking of doing a prerelease so maybe we can get it tested first since I don't have a full Vivid team right now.
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I'll help beta test it. Thank you!

I can help too
Sent from my HTC PH39100 using XDA

I'm definitely interested in beta testing. If you need anymore testers just let me know.

Sign me up for beta testing.

Any chances of getting this out for the Canadian Raider which doesn't have the new HBOOT yet?
A man can dream, huh?
Seriously, good luck with your new ROM! Can't wait to see what it'll be like!

cyber_pete said:
We will start with a clean stable BD themed ROM. I already added an extended quick settings menu. We are looking into the extended power menu. Hoping to get the beta out very soon. I am thinking of doing a prerelease so maybe we can get it tested first since I don't have a full Vivid team right now.
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Count me in as well. for Beta Testing...

ROM Causing Heart Palpitations

OMFG im giving porting CM7 a crack for myself for personal use and its giving me hell. Im using this tutorial: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1598713 and CM7 for WFS... The product so far (DONT WASTE 5 MINUTES OF YOUR LIFE UNLESS YOU WANT TO DEBUG! It doesnt work):
HTML:
<a href=http://developerintouch.tk/ROMS/BASE.zip>DIRECT LINK<a>
. The BASE rom is BB's X Series rom and the PORTED is CM7 for WFS. Im just gonna warn you again, this rom doesnt install so unless your a dev (would really appreciate BB or ben taking a look) dont download. And I am a supern00b so youll probably just look at it and go: wrong wrong wrong you're an idiot. Anyway, its uploading to my webserver now so it should be up in about 45 minutes, im going to bed now cos its rather late in Aussie land and since you yanks and poms are up now id really appreciate you guys evaluting during the night... So goodnight everybody and thanks for looking...

Oh and just to add, please please please feel free to modify this ROM in any way and if it boots even better! And I'm not trying to steal BB and Bens thunder here I just wanted to give porting a shot and thought CM was a nice place to start. I probably sound like an idiot here because I'm 3/4 asleep and you can't even call that abomination a ROM but I did follow the instructions word for word perfectly and went over like 100 times lol
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iCaal said:
OMFG im giving porting CM7 a crack for myself for personal use and its giving me hell. Im using this tutorial: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1598713 and CM7 for WFS... The product so far (DONT WASTE 5 MINUTES OF YOUR LIFE UNLESS YOU WANT TO DEBUG! It doesnt work):
HTML:
<a href=http://developerintouch.tk/ROMS/BASE.zip>DIRECT LINK<a>
. The BASE rom is BB's X Series rom and the PORTED is CM7 for WFS. Im just gonna warn you again, this rom doesnt install so unless your a dev (would really appreciate BB or ben taking a look) dont download. And I am a supern00b so youll probably just look at it and go: wrong wrong wrong you're an idiot. Anyway, its uploading to my webserver now so it should be up in about 45 minutes, im going to bed now cos its rather late in Aussie land and since you yanks and poms are up now id really appreciate you guys evaluting during the night... So goodnight everybody and thanks for looking...
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mate, you will never get a ROM to boot doing that!
to port a cm or any ROM u need the kitchen!
but well done for trying though!!!!
dsixda kitchen
Ubuntu 12.04
and patience, a lot of it.
for cyanogen stuff, hrs upon hrs of learning and 13gb of extra space due the huge cm7 source download.
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iCaal said:
Oh and just to add, please please please feel free to modify this ROM in any way and if it boots even better! And I'm not trying to steal BB and Bens thunder here I just wanted to give porting a shot and thought CM was a nice place to start. I probably sound like an idiot here because I'm 3/4 asleep and you can't even call that abomination a ROM but I did follow the instructions word for word perfectly and went over like 100 times lol
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best place to start on porting is other roms and not cm7.
reason for this is cm7 is a bugger to fix.
custom roms like things and sense 3.5 are easy to manage and bug fixing can be easier

BigBearEvo said:
mate, you will never get a ROM to boot doing that!
to port a cm or any ROM u need the kitchen!
but well done for trying though!!!!
dsixda kitchen
Ubuntu 12.04
and patience, a lot of it.
for cyanogen stuff, hrs upon hrs of learning and 13gb of extra space due the huge cm7 source download.
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best place to start on porting is other roms and not cm7.
reason for this is cm7 is a bugger to fix.
custom roms like things and sense 3.5 are easy to manage and bug fixing can be easier
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Gah! I knew I was doing it wrong! Disregard those first two posts then...
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People are such capitalist

http://androidspin.com/2013/05/01/htc-one-s-off-achieved-htc-users-can-now-rejoice-as-well/

F that. I'll stay on htcdev and donate when it is achieved. This goes against all hacking tradition.
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fernando sor said:
F that. I'll stay on htcdev and donate when it is achieved. This goes against all hacking tradition.
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I totally agree, its bs. I doubt they did anything more than jtag the phone

I'll wait too... Hopefully a guide will come out soon. :banghead:
Sent from my aluminum T.A.R.D.I.S!

If they did jtag the phone, they done an impressive job of putting the phone back together afterwards.

im0rtalz said:
If they did jtag the phone, they done an impressive job of putting the phone back together afterwards.
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the post directly below the screen shot on their facebook says htc one jtag and communicating. That's not hacking.

If I remember right, I used them to repair a bricked HD2. It required being taken apart and the ROM flashed directly to the board. I think that was 40 bucks.
When I got it back the volume down stopped working. They claimed it was messed up when I sent it, which is partly true but it still functioned. When I got it back it didn't at all. They stopped responding to my questions and requests.
They got it working again but were a bit rude.. won't be using them again.
Sent from my HTCONE using Tapatalk 2

Is S-OFF even necessary on this phone?

jkt97401 said:
Is S-OFF even necessary on this phone?
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While s-off might not be "necessary" right now it is always a good thing to have. There's always a chance htc won't allow proper flashing of the boot.img in future hboot updates.
Sent from my HTCONE using Tapatalk 2

I'm waiting... Just wow though
Sent from my Sprint HTC ONE using XDA premium

Hey MObile Tech Videos did fix my hard bricked tablet though, so i can't hate them that much lolz

Ok, i see charging someone to take a bricked phone and directly re-flashing it. One would think it would be a better business move for them to share what they did, that way it could possibly cause more bricked device so they could possibly make more money on unbricking. LOL

PandaNuclearAttack said:
Ok, i see charging someone to take a bricked phone and directly re-flashing it. One would think it would be a better business move for them to share what they did, that way it could possibly cause more bricked device so they could possibly make more money on unbricking. LOL
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But they would make more money if they didn't share how to do it
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I don't understand why people are so heated about this, they're independent people who get to make their own choices. Android and open source in general have great traditions of devs doing their work for free, but that hardly means that every dev owes it to the community to work pro bono.
If you haven't donated to a dev on your own, you really shouldn't be offended about this.

YoungDonDraper said:
I don't understand why people are so heated about this, they're independent people who get to make their own choices. Android and open source in general have great traditions of devs doing their work for free, but that hardly means that every dev owes it to the community to work pro bono.
If you haven't donated to a dev on your own, you really shouldn't be offended about this.
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If you want to understand why people are mad, you need to understand the culture a little better. Go read the GPL (and maybe other related open source licences). I'm not saying that it applies to this; just that open source is no where near as open as most people believe it to be.

YoungCorruptionV2.0 said:
But they would make more money if they didn't share how to do it
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Not necessarily, you don't make money if people aren't willing to pay. I can only assume that most people on forums like this are less likely to send there phone out to be s-offed,and just wait until one of these amazing devs posts a tutorial(once accomplished). If you mean they would make more money if they don't, by they are hoping people will brick there devices trying, then yes i agree then they would make a lot of money off of that. I do believe Share is Caring...unless its a completely original idea then charge.

'Merica!

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'Merica!
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sxephil?

waited forever for S-Off on my 3D...no reason not to again with my ONE

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2282223:highfive: