I used roehsoft ram expander on my old wildfire buzz to create a swap file on my sd card to increase the ram memory and it worked pretty well.
Is it possible to use this with the same mini? I ran a test using an app from play store, screen shot below. It may not be accurate. It says the kernel isn't compatible.
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The reason for this may be because willy had a custom kernel and our device hasn't got a custom kernel, I came from wildfire aswell.
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Well maybe you're right although I tried to run ram expander and it says error no sd card. I set the correct location and it refuses to detect it.
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Do you realy need more ram?? 1gb is not enough?
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While the system + running apps is using around 400 - 600 mb sometimes more, I don't want to have to clean up every time I watch a high quality video via my tv or play a heavy game. Some games optimally uses about 500mb, etc. No 1gb isn't enough xd.
Yes I can use su boost via console and it isn't hard, but if I could have more ram wouldn't that be optimal? Who doesn't want more? Why not just stick with a old handset if 1gb is all you'll ever need. I bet a year from now you'll want more when 1gb is relatively small
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Yes you are right.
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So I guess the question is, what would need to be modified in the kernel to allow creation of the swap file in the SD? Things like this is making me interested in learning android development
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Have you look this all ready: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2087497
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While the system + running apps is using around 400 - 600 mb sometimes more, I don't want to have to clean up every time I watch a high quality video via my tv or play a heavy game. Some games optimally uses about 500mb, etc. No 1gb isn't enough xd.
Yes I can use su boost via console and it isn't hard, but if I could have more ram wouldn't that be optimal? Who doesn't want more? Why not just stick with a old handset if 1gb is all you'll ever need. I bet a year from now you'll want more when 1gb is relatively small
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Then maybe you should've gone with Note II or a new PC. S3 Mini is not for gaming.
Don't like giant phones :-[
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Hi guys,
i flashed zeus rom 6.39n two days ago
and tried to make swape file using swapper2
but always says fail...so it is supposed to be a custom rom
where every thing is possible
ao any help here ,,,
Swap is slow and your performance will suffer badly. Much better idea is to use memory compression from CM.
hatem 5000 said:
Hi guys,
i flashed zeus rom 6.39n two days ago
and tried to make swape file using swapper2
but always says fail...so it is supposed to be a custom rom
where every thing is possible
ao any help here ,,,
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Use an app called swapper 2 in Play Store. Its free. Note that this worsens the SDCard Life.
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Use an app called swapper 2 in Play Store. Its free. Note that this worsens the SDCard Life.
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Did you read all?
He said that he couldn't use swapper2.
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Did you read all?
He said that he couldn't use swapper2.
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Oops.. i meant swapper. Without "2"
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As far as i know "swap" has to be supported by the Kernel.
And i think you dont need it cause there is enough RAM.
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As far as i know "swap" has to be supported by the Kernel.
And i think you dont need it cause there is enough RAM.
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OB has a very weak RAM. Its 512mb is mainly eaten by Android. Leaving 200Mb+MAX left.
In average performance ROMs, it made OB leave with 160+ Mb
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Using the SD Card as a swap file is not a good idea. It's slow and will very possible make performance worse. In the KU5900 there is a partition for swapping on the phone itself and of course that kernel is built to handle it. The P970 can't be repartitioned to have a swap file on the phone itself, because it will make us lose space from userdata and we can't make the relevant changes to u-boot (We can make the changes to the partition header but then it won't boot ).
If RAM is a problem rather reduce RAM Usage by not having Widgets and not having millions of programs running in the background and use SuperChargerV6 that help a lot!
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OB has a very weak RAM. Its 512mb is mainly eaten by Android. Leaving 200Mb+MAX left.
In average performance ROMs, it made OB leave with 160+ Mb
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And that's not enough? I Think swap would'nt have a positive effect.
If that were so, there would have been someone implemented in its kernel.
Be careful with swapper, I used it and got perma-brick (the phone just didn't start, I could not enter s/w upgrade neither. I ended up paying 100 bucks for motherboard change.
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i already gave away using swap because what i heard about its harm
and i use original mem parametars of zeus 6.39 and its sooo good
and play any apps in parallel so easly
soi curreltny made a 256 mb swap file and using v6 supercharger and everything but i didn'treally notice a difference in game performance , i can open like 5 apps but games nbot really?is it normal?
The smoothness of games depends also on the power of the cpu and gpu, which isn't the ace's strenght.
Swap helps for multitasking and keeping apps in memory longer (which reduces app loading time) but it won't make games run better or faster.
I guess little bit it help in performance of game as its usefull in load game data faster !
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If your sd card is class 6 or lower, it can even slow down your games
After installing some heavy games, there's really no gaming difference. Only multi tasking has drastically improved.
I even tried out JB this afternoon using this same method and it still didn't make a gaming difference. The multi tasking is awesome though so I have no complaints.
How hard on a SD card is this?
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How hard on a SD card is this?
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I bought an extra one just for swap. Bought a 4GB class 4. Not risking my 8GB. It's hard on a SD with INT2EXT+ also installed. I don't know how long it'll last but once you got swap, you'll never go back.
I can play Tank Hero, switch to facebook on Opera Mini while answering to chats on WhatsApp and IMO instant messenger. Without having my game interrupted. AND run a bunch of widgets that would slow down my phone. Multi-tasking is incredible.
And the best part is, since I'm using a swap file and not partition, I can shrink or increase the swap size at will
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I bought an extra one just for swap. Bought a 4GB class 4. Not risking my 8GB. It's hard on a SD with INT2EXT+ also installed. I don't know how long it'll last but once you got swap, you'll never go back.
I can play Tank Hero, switch to facebook on Opera Mini while answering to chats on WhatsApp and IMO instant messenger. Without having my game interrupted. AND run a bunch of widgets that would slow down my phone. Multi-tasking is incredible.
And the best part is, since I'm using a swap file and not partition, I can shrink or increase the swap size at will
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So I should try it? I have an.extra SD to use for whatever. Its 4 g but has all my stuff on it.
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So I should try it? I have an.extra SD to use for whatever. Its 4 g but has all my stuff on it.
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Yeah dude. Try it out. Just make a backup before you do.
Swap is pretty useless on mobile
And you get a dead SD card with it too, like those buy one get one free in shops
"What it lies in our power to do, it lies in our power not to do" -Aristotle
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Swap is pretty useless on mobile
And you get a dead SD card with it too, like those buy one get one free in shops
"What it lies in our power to do, it lies in our power not to do" -Aristotle
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Don't generalize. It's useless to you. I bet you haven't even used it before.
Is there any way to increase Internal memory Of our Cell Phone ......... M having so many gameloft and rockstar games collections ....... Juz wanna play those games !! Is there any way to increase the Internal memory ???? Or swap it with external memory ( juz like in case of galaxy s3 or Note 2 ) !! .........
If ur using a note. Currently u can play all the gameloft and rockstar games with ur 1 gb ram. Maybe in near future u will run out of space. But for now everything works.
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If ur using a note. Currently u can play all the gameloft and rockstar games with ur 1 gb ram. Maybe in near future u will run out of space. But for now everything works.
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I guess he means INTERNAL STORAGE not RAM...
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There's an app called Android Assistant that will let you move files to your external sd card if it supports it. Give it a go.
Search for GL to SD in play store works flawlessly needs root though
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Oh sorry my bad. I took it as a ram as i was preoccupied by some queries about ppl saying that 1gb ram is not enough for gaming.
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My nexus 7 (stock rom)starts to lag when it has like less than 100mb free. Lag goes away when I close out programs manually. This is the same case on my galaxy nexus (cm10.1). But my nexus 4 is great and worlds another might I add. But back to the 7, does any one else agree or have similar problems?
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I'm affraid you think right. Apps need memory to run, when this RAM is low or there is not enough available to start a new task the system lags, especially it's UI. Then it attemps to force kill one, more or ALL of your previous used apps depending of your memory usage level.
We can nothing to do with that, just can adjust our number of "same time running" applications to something appropriate to our device memory.
Sadly I have to say that for real MULTITASKING 2GB RAM are THE MINIMUM these days, but for really fast and smooth reactions 3GB will be the optimum. Where are these devices you can ask, hah they are NOT BORN YET...
AW: Beggining to think android requires ram.
I think I'm doing something wrong.. Because I never had ram issues.. :/ I'm trying to make my tablet sweat this week ^^
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fushla said:
I think I'm doing something wrong.. Because I never had ram issues.. :/ I'm trying to make my tablet sweat this week ^^
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Me neither. I had a Viewsonic GTablet that only had 512MB of RAM, and it wasn't an issue.
It's probably not so much android but the apps. Just like all computing, programs get better and more complex and start requiring more ram and processor power. I think with the Nexus 7,it has plenty of processor, so ram is probably the bottleneck.
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You reminded me of my lg p350, 175mb ram and was so slow, and thats with the os fitting in it, Froyo.
1.5 horrible and torturing years later, here i am, with 1gb ram and enjoying it.
Be thankful you even have a gig of ram.
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Hello everyone! Having a 2GB RAM in nexus 4, I am curious how much max RAM have you people used. After running my daily apps like Facebook,8 tracks, flipboard, what's app, viber,xda, drop box, chrome, I have used a Max of 1.2GB RAM. Post your max RAM usage.
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I have used about a 1 GB of RAM. I love having extra ram in a phone
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I have used about a 1 GB of RAM. I live having extra ram in a phone
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Lol. Yup. That extra ram Will be much helpful for the future updates. My friend's one x's 1 gig of RAM is now not sufficient for him.
Imho, nexus 4's power has not been used to the full yet. Optimization needs to be done, both in hardware and software. I believe we have a hardware that will go into full swing next year
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Most likely key lime pie will have more optimizations hopefully and it should debut this year.
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That is true. Take for example the galaxy nexus was released two years ago and its going strong
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I dunno why 1gig of RAM wouldn't be sufficient but i don't mind having the extra. And KLP rumors say that the new Linux Kernel will actually be substantially more RAM efficient.
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i usually have between 1375-1500mb free ram at any point of my usage(about 1650mb after killing my apps). i also use autostarts to prevent apps from starting up in the background, and i use greenify to tame wild apps.
I've seen about 1.2-1.4gb of my RAM being used. But there was someone who kept complaining that the nexus 4 would close apps even if plenty of space was remaining. i think that person even started a thread & posted videos to prove it .
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I've seen about 1.2-1.4gb of my RAM being used. But there was someone who kept complaining that the nexus 4 would close apps even if plenty of space was remaining. i think that person even started a thread & posted videos to prove it .
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anyone can fake that video. can even make it kill the background apps sooner when very little ram is used. all you have to do is change the memory management variables by raising them. plus, there are roms out there that do that too.
Yes. I feel like that nexus 4 kills certain apps or refreshes despite having enough RAM.
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Using Elixer 2 widgets, I seen to hover between 1.2gb to 800mb free ram. I don't really close anything, pretty much just let it run on its own. Stock not rooted or anything. I have probably 50 give or take a few apps installed.
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Ram use age is not only dependent upon the applications running... If you use roms like xylon or liquid etc there are options to show how much ram is used by applications, cache and one other thing which i can't remember right now.. So basically my ram use age in real life had always been nearly to 1.6 1.7 GB!
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is jelly bean optimized for 2gb?, Ive had apps close not crash and I wonder why if it needed the ram, would changing the vm heapsize help?
I checked and I usually have 700mb remaining.
My Galaxy Nexus ran perfectly with 1gb ram so its probably more like JB uses ram pretty efficiently. More helps tho.
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Ram use age is not only dependent upon the applications running... If you use roms like xylon or liquid etc there are options to show how much ram is used by applications, cache and one other thing which i can't remember right now.. So basically my ram use age in real life had always been nearly to 1.6 1.7 GB!
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That much RAM? you are on a custom Rom? Could you list your apps?
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Maximum RAM used on my N4 was about 800-900 MB. Stock everything, with some services running like Facebook,Whatsapp,8tracks,Lightflow and a live wallpaper ..
As for the people wondering why some apps appear to "close" on their own despite having enough RAM. Its the app's fault, the code is not written well and does not advantage of Android's multitasking capabilities.
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That much RAM? you are on a custom Rom? Could you list your apps?
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I don't use that many apps..and yea iam on a custom rom...but i guess u didnt get what i am saying...most of the time what ubsee ass ur free rom isn't actually free... It's being used by cache and other things...what most roms show u is only how much ram applications use..as u can see from my screen shot... The phones ram is never entirely free !
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