My nexus 7 (stock rom)starts to lag when it has like less than 100mb free. Lag goes away when I close out programs manually. This is the same case on my galaxy nexus (cm10.1). But my nexus 4 is great and worlds another might I add. But back to the 7, does any one else agree or have similar problems?
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I'm affraid you think right. Apps need memory to run, when this RAM is low or there is not enough available to start a new task the system lags, especially it's UI. Then it attemps to force kill one, more or ALL of your previous used apps depending of your memory usage level.
We can nothing to do with that, just can adjust our number of "same time running" applications to something appropriate to our device memory.
Sadly I have to say that for real MULTITASKING 2GB RAM are THE MINIMUM these days, but for really fast and smooth reactions 3GB will be the optimum. Where are these devices you can ask, hah they are NOT BORN YET...
AW: Beggining to think android requires ram.
I think I'm doing something wrong.. Because I never had ram issues.. :/ I'm trying to make my tablet sweat this week ^^
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fushla said:
I think I'm doing something wrong.. Because I never had ram issues.. :/ I'm trying to make my tablet sweat this week ^^
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Me neither. I had a Viewsonic GTablet that only had 512MB of RAM, and it wasn't an issue.
It's probably not so much android but the apps. Just like all computing, programs get better and more complex and start requiring more ram and processor power. I think with the Nexus 7,it has plenty of processor, so ram is probably the bottleneck.
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You reminded me of my lg p350, 175mb ram and was so slow, and thats with the os fitting in it, Froyo.
1.5 horrible and torturing years later, here i am, with 1gb ram and enjoying it.
Be thankful you even have a gig of ram.
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Hello everyone! Having a 2GB RAM in nexus 4, I am curious how much max RAM have you people used. After running my daily apps like Facebook,8 tracks, flipboard, what's app, viber,xda, drop box, chrome, I have used a Max of 1.2GB RAM. Post your max RAM usage.
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I have used about a 1 GB of RAM. I love having extra ram in a phone
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dia_naji said:
I have used about a 1 GB of RAM. I live having extra ram in a phone
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Lol. Yup. That extra ram Will be much helpful for the future updates. My friend's one x's 1 gig of RAM is now not sufficient for him.
Imho, nexus 4's power has not been used to the full yet. Optimization needs to be done, both in hardware and software. I believe we have a hardware that will go into full swing next year
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Most likely key lime pie will have more optimizations hopefully and it should debut this year.
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That is true. Take for example the galaxy nexus was released two years ago and its going strong
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I dunno why 1gig of RAM wouldn't be sufficient but i don't mind having the extra. And KLP rumors say that the new Linux Kernel will actually be substantially more RAM efficient.
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i usually have between 1375-1500mb free ram at any point of my usage(about 1650mb after killing my apps). i also use autostarts to prevent apps from starting up in the background, and i use greenify to tame wild apps.
I've seen about 1.2-1.4gb of my RAM being used. But there was someone who kept complaining that the nexus 4 would close apps even if plenty of space was remaining. i think that person even started a thread & posted videos to prove it .
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I've seen about 1.2-1.4gb of my RAM being used. But there was someone who kept complaining that the nexus 4 would close apps even if plenty of space was remaining. i think that person even started a thread & posted videos to prove it .
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anyone can fake that video. can even make it kill the background apps sooner when very little ram is used. all you have to do is change the memory management variables by raising them. plus, there are roms out there that do that too.
Yes. I feel like that nexus 4 kills certain apps or refreshes despite having enough RAM.
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Using Elixer 2 widgets, I seen to hover between 1.2gb to 800mb free ram. I don't really close anything, pretty much just let it run on its own. Stock not rooted or anything. I have probably 50 give or take a few apps installed.
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Ram use age is not only dependent upon the applications running... If you use roms like xylon or liquid etc there are options to show how much ram is used by applications, cache and one other thing which i can't remember right now.. So basically my ram use age in real life had always been nearly to 1.6 1.7 GB!
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is jelly bean optimized for 2gb?, Ive had apps close not crash and I wonder why if it needed the ram, would changing the vm heapsize help?
I checked and I usually have 700mb remaining.
My Galaxy Nexus ran perfectly with 1gb ram so its probably more like JB uses ram pretty efficiently. More helps tho.
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Ram use age is not only dependent upon the applications running... If you use roms like xylon or liquid etc there are options to show how much ram is used by applications, cache and one other thing which i can't remember right now.. So basically my ram use age in real life had always been nearly to 1.6 1.7 GB!
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That much RAM? you are on a custom Rom? Could you list your apps?
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Maximum RAM used on my N4 was about 800-900 MB. Stock everything, with some services running like Facebook,Whatsapp,8tracks,Lightflow and a live wallpaper ..
As for the people wondering why some apps appear to "close" on their own despite having enough RAM. Its the app's fault, the code is not written well and does not advantage of Android's multitasking capabilities.
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That much RAM? you are on a custom Rom? Could you list your apps?
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I don't use that many apps..and yea iam on a custom rom...but i guess u didnt get what i am saying...most of the time what ubsee ass ur free rom isn't actually free... It's being used by cache and other things...what most roms show u is only how much ram applications use..as u can see from my screen shot... The phones ram is never entirely free !
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Developer community, hi, I had the S1 for about 2 years and still do, its very good phone yo know , however, what ever I do its too slow! I'm running Android 4.2.2 with over clocked CPU and 400+ of RAM, and sometimes when I leave a small app to main, it take sometime to load the launcher,so what's wrong? Was Google right when it stopped the Nexus S updates at 4.1.2 because it can take any farther? Does project better even exist? The fastest ROM I had ever install was ICS RC2 which worked perfectly (I could run MC3 at background then leave and do some thing else, then want back and its where I have lift it) but I had datadata problem and I had to try something els. Know a days ,some new flagships had less specification than S1 and work smother!, in short words: can I make my phone faster ?
All thanks and appreciates to whom worked to develop this great phone.
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Flagship with less specification than s1?
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Yup, Some LG and Sami phones came with the same or less specifications
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Well, the more recent phones that come out right now for the low-end market are running alot newer chips than the S1 has. In my opinion, you shouldn't go to far with flashing newer versions of Android. But on the other hand, everyone wants to be on the most recent version of Android. Google had a reason for not pushing 4.2 to the Nexus S. Other manufacturers don't bring out updates for newer phones (for no reason), but Google had a good reason, because the Nexus S' hardware is outdated.
Unfortunately i doubt you can get your smoothest experience in 4.2.2.
If you want pure smoothness you should try a custom 2.3.7 as that would be ideal although i reckon 4.0.4(cm9 base) would do quite a decent job as well.
You have to try out different ROMs and see what best fits your needs.
Is a way that i use it and is good and smooth
But if expect like sg3 no it's not exactly like that but it's close. And don't disturb u
Cause our hardware's are a part of history
I installed 1.2gb apk and work smooth mostly software not game
First;
Buy a sd card high class 10
Format internal storage
Install cm latest version 4.2.2 with Odin
Install kernel like fishear
And set it up
Install cyanDelta
Install auto memory killer and set in optimum value
Install Roehsoft apk and make virtual memory on your external SD
Also never install any luncher cause it's own luncher is very light
and enjoy it
is good for daily works And smooth
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Of course 4.2.2 isn't going to be perfect. Pushing Project Butter onto our phone was a feat in itself. The smoothest 4.2.2 I've tried is Slim Bean, which really is pretty amazing. But don't be surprised about the fact that the phone can't handle Jelly Bean as well as it should. Its 3rd year anniversary is approaching fast.
Its still a wonder our single-core can handle it fine.
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Hei man I dont know what roms are you using but try thinkingridge stable by aways and the c-rom mix 18...everything is stable at 55 frames per second in the ui...and ofcourse your phone will slowdown if you put a lot of stuff in it...its normal...you cannot pretend that is going to be fast as when you fresh install the rom..my girlfriend's iphone 4 is stock,no mods but still it lags a lot more than my VERY OLD I9000 ...
By the way anyone can give me some advices on a gingerbread rom?a kickass one? I saw a couple of releases in this days...they should be good considering that the developers had plenty of time to improve stability and performances...
Thanks
Speed depends on the kernel/rom your using and the way your using it. My suggestion is GamerzRom and use the greenify app. Try it and you ll see. Ive never had a faster rom!
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whatever you decide to do dont use task managers...they just mess with the android sistem and android knows better than you when and how to kill a process...
True i found out that task managers dont really work well
Greenify works the best and alot of people use it
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Hey there,
I HAD the same problem. The 2/3 changes I made was
1.UNDERClock to 800mhz (less stress on phone and less lag
2. Use Nova launcher as default
3. I am running slim bean latest and its fantasiltic
My phone has never run better
Stay away from themes though.
FYI I am a massive app hoarder so you may have a hundred apps on your phone and blame it on that but probability 9/10 isn't.
Hope I helped
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I've noticed that my browser gets dumped from ram quite often, even if I don't use a different app. It seems to be time constrained.
The reason this is so annoying is I really hate when the browser has to refresh the page.
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Can't corroborate. I've had Chrome sitting in the background for over a couple hours now without it requiring a refresh.
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I've noticed that my browser gets dumped from ram quite often, even if I don't use a different app. It seems to be time constrained.
The reason this is so annoying is I really hate when the browser has to refresh the page.
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Is this the one X forum, or just deja vu?
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****. I'm concerned about this because my old nexus 10 would do the same thing. I wonder if 2GB is just not enough memory for these high resolution displays. A good chunk of it goes towards video memory, leaving less for the OS to work with.
My stupid n10 would constantly dump tabs on chrome, no matter the type of rom I used (stock, aosp-based CM and AOKP, or just random aosp builds)
Thing is, it's retarded because there's always plenty memory available
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****. I'm concerned about this because my old nexus 10 would do the same thing. I wonder if 2GB is just not enough memory for these high resolution displays. A good chunk of it goes towards video memory, leaving less for the OS to work with.
My stupid n10 would constantly dump tabs on chrome, no matter the type of rom I used (stock, aosp-based CM and AOKP, or just random aosp builds)
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This is not all about the overall free memory... This is about the threshold of the OOM of android. If I had the HTC One right now I could explain it to you easily but sory my answer right now is too generic so just search what those are...
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There's no such thing as "dumped on RAM" as all active apps are running on RAM. Once they are flushed/removed from RAM that's the time your apps refresh when opened again.
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Thing is, it's retarded because there's always plenty memory available
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Isn't it too much for a device with 512mb of ram?
I'm using ICS, give me a good reason to upgrade...
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Isn't it too much for a device with 512mb of ram?
I'm using ICS, give me a good reason to upgrade...
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No its not jb works great on our phone try gamerzrom you wont regret it
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Isn't it too much for a device with 512mb of ram?
I'm using ICS, give me a good reason to upgrade...
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First of all JB is MUCH faster than ICS,
about ram: with ICS you have 398.7 max ram and in JB you will have 409 with big mem and 439 max with no cam.
try it and you will feel the different, if its too much then samsung said its too much for our device to go with ics so why you are running it :laugh:
Nothing special
juz we wanted to move forward, not backward or stay where we are forever. thats all
I have to say, Google Now and expandable notifications are pretty damn awesome. The former you can get on ICS (though I've never managed to get it working) but the latter, big reason to upgrade to at least 4.1.2. Makes life a lot easier.
You'd be surprised what a phone with only 512MB of ram can take.
Also, some of the JB roms just fly. They're amazing and don't compromise battery life for speed *cough cough Gamerzrom @darkknigh_t *
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Has anyone successfully froze any packages or made any changes to free up more Ram on their GEAR? typically i sit around the 360MB mark with only a small amount of Free Ram. Using Launcher 8 right now, which doesn't appear to be a memory hog.
Any suggestions?
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Has anyone successfully froze any packages or made any changes to free up more Ram on their GEAR? typically i sit around the 360MB mark with only a small amount of Free Ram. Using Launcher 8 right now, which doesn't appear to be a memory hog.
Any suggestions?
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I usually have between 80 and 120mb free with a lot of apps/tweaks installed, which is excellent considering its a watch. Bare in mind it only has 470mb of usable ram. Using 380mb seems perfectly acceptable to me :thumbup:
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I usually have between 80 and 120mb free with a lot of apps/tweaks installed, which is excellent considering its a watch. Bare in mind it only has 470mb of usable ram. Using 380mb seems perfectly acceptable to me :thumbup:
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Yeah but it's samsung... there is usually some bloat ware that can be frozen or something. What apps/tweaks have you done for memory, just curious? i have about 60-80 after running a launcher which i suspect to be pretty good considering the above ram as you have stated.
thanks for any input my friend
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Yeah but it's samsung... there is usually some bloat ware that can be frozen or something. What apps/tweaks have you done for memory, just curious? i have about 60-80 after running a launcher which i suspect to be pretty good considering the above ram as you have stated.
thanks for any input my friend
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Anything can be deleted mate, trial and error till you find your perfect set up, use titanium backup to back things up and delete them, then you can always restore if something went wrong. Personally I have all stock bloat intact as most of it adds use to the watch (weather, notifications etc) as for memory tweaks I use @zeppelinrox supercharger script, which really does help the watch run smooth and fast (it makes a noticeable improvement in terms of speed and memory issues)
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