I've noticed that my browser gets dumped from ram quite often, even if I don't use a different app. It seems to be time constrained.
The reason this is so annoying is I really hate when the browser has to refresh the page.
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Can't corroborate. I've had Chrome sitting in the background for over a couple hours now without it requiring a refresh.
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I've noticed that my browser gets dumped from ram quite often, even if I don't use a different app. It seems to be time constrained.
The reason this is so annoying is I really hate when the browser has to refresh the page.
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Is this the one X forum, or just deja vu?
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****. I'm concerned about this because my old nexus 10 would do the same thing. I wonder if 2GB is just not enough memory for these high resolution displays. A good chunk of it goes towards video memory, leaving less for the OS to work with.
My stupid n10 would constantly dump tabs on chrome, no matter the type of rom I used (stock, aosp-based CM and AOKP, or just random aosp builds)
Thing is, it's retarded because there's always plenty memory available
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****. I'm concerned about this because my old nexus 10 would do the same thing. I wonder if 2GB is just not enough memory for these high resolution displays. A good chunk of it goes towards video memory, leaving less for the OS to work with.
My stupid n10 would constantly dump tabs on chrome, no matter the type of rom I used (stock, aosp-based CM and AOKP, or just random aosp builds)
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This is not all about the overall free memory... This is about the threshold of the OOM of android. If I had the HTC One right now I could explain it to you easily but sory my answer right now is too generic so just search what those are...
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There's no such thing as "dumped on RAM" as all active apps are running on RAM. Once they are flushed/removed from RAM that's the time your apps refresh when opened again.
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Thing is, it's retarded because there's always plenty memory available
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i go a used D3 yesterday. a factory wipe was done, and it was already rooted for me. i rerooted it because i did not see superuser. i am running adw witch does run better then stock launcher but the phone over all is really laggy, kinda like my droidx on froyo was...
this is why i wish i had an SBF for 959, aside from a factory reset again, is there anything in i can do to try and make this run better? im wondering if it is slow because of something the previous user did? and the camera takes AT LEAST 6-7 seconds to load up EVERY time, and it takes for ever to get into focus sometimes...i hear great things about this phone, but so far im not inpressed at all..
thx all
The camera does open very slow. The phone shouldn't be lagging though. Only problem I ever had was with stock launcher. Don't know why this is happening to you.
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Check your apps, might have a strange one.
Sounds like something is chewing up your CPU, restart phone and then do some tests and benchmarks, see if your getting average Droid 3 performance. This phone is faster then Tegra phones in most cases including games.
when we get some roms, kernel tweaks and cm7 then this thing will fly.
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Check your apps, might have a strange one.
Sounds like something is chewing up your CPU, restart phone and then do some tests and benchmarks, see if your getting average Droid 3 performance. This phone is faster then Tegra phones in most cases including games.
when we get some roms, kernel tweaks and cm7 then this thing will fly.
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By the time we get CM it will be CM8.
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I ended up going through almost every app i had and checking the refresh intervals to make sure it was limited. also i would limit the accounts you have synced and if you can use the 3rd party apps so you can get better control over how it behaves vs. letting motorola settings take over.
I've had mine for about 24 hours and it doesnt lag processor wise, of course without 4G some of the higher quality data transfer will be slower.
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By the time we get CM it will be CM8.
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Unfortunatel you might be correct.
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My nexus 7 (stock rom)starts to lag when it has like less than 100mb free. Lag goes away when I close out programs manually. This is the same case on my galaxy nexus (cm10.1). But my nexus 4 is great and worlds another might I add. But back to the 7, does any one else agree or have similar problems?
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I'm affraid you think right. Apps need memory to run, when this RAM is low or there is not enough available to start a new task the system lags, especially it's UI. Then it attemps to force kill one, more or ALL of your previous used apps depending of your memory usage level.
We can nothing to do with that, just can adjust our number of "same time running" applications to something appropriate to our device memory.
Sadly I have to say that for real MULTITASKING 2GB RAM are THE MINIMUM these days, but for really fast and smooth reactions 3GB will be the optimum. Where are these devices you can ask, hah they are NOT BORN YET...
AW: Beggining to think android requires ram.
I think I'm doing something wrong.. Because I never had ram issues.. :/ I'm trying to make my tablet sweat this week ^^
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I think I'm doing something wrong.. Because I never had ram issues.. :/ I'm trying to make my tablet sweat this week ^^
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Me neither. I had a Viewsonic GTablet that only had 512MB of RAM, and it wasn't an issue.
It's probably not so much android but the apps. Just like all computing, programs get better and more complex and start requiring more ram and processor power. I think with the Nexus 7,it has plenty of processor, so ram is probably the bottleneck.
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You reminded me of my lg p350, 175mb ram and was so slow, and thats with the os fitting in it, Froyo.
1.5 horrible and torturing years later, here i am, with 1gb ram and enjoying it.
Be thankful you even have a gig of ram.
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This phone sucks at multitasking. Galaxy S2 has a dual-core 1.5 GHz processor as well, but it multitasked with ease. This phone feels like an old person that's gonna croak over and die whenever I multitask things. Ex: I'd be downloading an app and go to my messages to read a new message. The phone lags like hell before it opens the message.
The only reason I haven't traded it or sold it is because the only phone I'd consider purchasing right now is an iPhone 4s. I agree android is a bit better but I got bored of it.
But the multitasking problem is the main reason why I dislike this phone (aside from locked BL and and 3 giant buttons taking up the screen.)
/endrant
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Havent noticed it at all.
+1
I do feel the same problem with this phone.
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I haven't had any problems so far even on stock rom . Maybe you are a mad because of the locked bootloader just like mostly anyone here but don't worry hopefully we will get it unlocked .
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I haven't had any problems so far even on stock rom . Maybe you are a mad because of the locked bootloader just like mostly anyone here but don't worry hopefully we will get it unlocked .
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It really has nothing to do with BL. Lol.
My is just very laggy when it comes to multitasking. It was worse on stock but still laggy on Golden Rom.
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Yeah it happens too some people my wife and me had the lg g2x and for some reason hers was slow and it would lag.
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This phone sucks at multitasking. Galaxy S2 has a dual-core 1.5 GHz processor as well, but it multitasked with ease. This phone feels like an old person that's gonna croak over and die whenever I multitask things. Ex: I'd be downloading an app and go to my messages to read a new message. The phone lags like hell before it opens the message.
The only reason I haven't traded it or sold it is because the only phone I'd consider purchasing right now is an iPhone 4s. I agree android is a bit better but I got bored of it.
But the multitasking problem is the main reason why I dislike this phone (aside from locked BL and and 3 giant buttons taking up the screen.)
/endrant
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I've had this issue on stock, joker and batakang.
I haven't noticed at all...
Personally, the ENTIRE time I've had my Atrix, I never noticed any multitasking lag...
Then again, it all depends on how you use the phone in the first place...
I mainly download, tweet, listen to music and (attempt to) clear the MGS VR missions on mine and I can switch back and forth rather smoothly...
the phone lags when trying to do more than one thing at a time, on any rom.
yes the phone sucks.
centipedes said:
the phone lags when trying to do more than one thing at a time, on any rom.
yes the phone sucks.
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Then again, it all depends on how you use the phone in the first place...
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Have you frozen most, if not all the stock bloatware, have a static wallpaper (nothing that moves), doth thou use task killers?
Oh and what's your usual CPU usage? (What's your hourly average... guestimate if you have to...)
I used pimp my rom and set the oom values to medium and used greenify to hibernate apps and my phone is running great.
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I used pimp my rom and set the oom values to medium and used greenify to hibernate apps and my phone is running great.
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Mind posting in the greenify thread which apps you froze?
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Haven't noticed any lags on AHD. Flashing to JB and notice some improvements in speed.
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Personally, the ENTIRE time I've had my Atrix, I never noticed any multitasking lag...
Then again, it all depends on how you use the phone in the first place...
I mainly download, tweet, listen to music and (attempt to) clear the MGS VR missions on mine and I can switch back and forth rather smoothly...
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Then we do most of the same. If I download an app (let's say Firefox mobile.) I'd go back to twitter, but it'd take a while for twitter to come back up. Even if I don't clear my recent apps, it will still lag when I'm on there.
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It would only get laggy if you have a ton of "recent apps"...
I usually keep 5~7 apps recent and clear away the apps I don't need to keep "recent"
Oh and you could use greenify too while you're at it...
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Have you frozen most, if not all the stock bloatware, have a static wallpaper (nothing that moves), doth thou use task killers?
Oh and what's your usual CPU usage? (What's your hourly average... guestimate if you have to...)
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If you have to do all this then you are proving his point.
I buyed my AHD at 250$ factory unlock on kijiji in very good condition and for the price I think its a very verry good phone I was going to buy a one S at 320 when I saw this phone . Now Im so happy with it no lags at all. If someone unlock the bootloader it will be a purchase of gold
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I never said I used all that
I just use Greenify and switch between a static and live wallpaper all the time... (I'm very indecisive...)
All I did was mention various tactics to to help... Oh and to mention that task killers are bad... Just the usual stuff...
I've tried using greenify and can't get much out of it because you cant do anything with system apps.
That's why you pair it with other battery saving apps like juice defender...
IMO I used JD's Extreme Settings, and just go with that and greenify.
I haven't charged from yesterday, leaving about 53% (I had 55% at midnight, left wi-fi on...)
I've watched Skyfall (in glorious HD) with wi-fi on in the background, and I'm about to start the last Ninja VR Mission for MGS with 32% left.
No Lag, No Issues. If people still insist on complaining about the phone, so be it. This phone is a diamond in the rough, you have to be the one to make it what is.
Hello everyone! Having a 2GB RAM in nexus 4, I am curious how much max RAM have you people used. After running my daily apps like Facebook,8 tracks, flipboard, what's app, viber,xda, drop box, chrome, I have used a Max of 1.2GB RAM. Post your max RAM usage.
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I have used about a 1 GB of RAM. I love having extra ram in a phone
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dia_naji said:
I have used about a 1 GB of RAM. I live having extra ram in a phone
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Lol. Yup. That extra ram Will be much helpful for the future updates. My friend's one x's 1 gig of RAM is now not sufficient for him.
Imho, nexus 4's power has not been used to the full yet. Optimization needs to be done, both in hardware and software. I believe we have a hardware that will go into full swing next year
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Most likely key lime pie will have more optimizations hopefully and it should debut this year.
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That is true. Take for example the galaxy nexus was released two years ago and its going strong
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I dunno why 1gig of RAM wouldn't be sufficient but i don't mind having the extra. And KLP rumors say that the new Linux Kernel will actually be substantially more RAM efficient.
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i usually have between 1375-1500mb free ram at any point of my usage(about 1650mb after killing my apps). i also use autostarts to prevent apps from starting up in the background, and i use greenify to tame wild apps.
I've seen about 1.2-1.4gb of my RAM being used. But there was someone who kept complaining that the nexus 4 would close apps even if plenty of space was remaining. i think that person even started a thread & posted videos to prove it .
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I've seen about 1.2-1.4gb of my RAM being used. But there was someone who kept complaining that the nexus 4 would close apps even if plenty of space was remaining. i think that person even started a thread & posted videos to prove it .
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anyone can fake that video. can even make it kill the background apps sooner when very little ram is used. all you have to do is change the memory management variables by raising them. plus, there are roms out there that do that too.
Yes. I feel like that nexus 4 kills certain apps or refreshes despite having enough RAM.
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Using Elixer 2 widgets, I seen to hover between 1.2gb to 800mb free ram. I don't really close anything, pretty much just let it run on its own. Stock not rooted or anything. I have probably 50 give or take a few apps installed.
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Ram use age is not only dependent upon the applications running... If you use roms like xylon or liquid etc there are options to show how much ram is used by applications, cache and one other thing which i can't remember right now.. So basically my ram use age in real life had always been nearly to 1.6 1.7 GB!
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is jelly bean optimized for 2gb?, Ive had apps close not crash and I wonder why if it needed the ram, would changing the vm heapsize help?
I checked and I usually have 700mb remaining.
My Galaxy Nexus ran perfectly with 1gb ram so its probably more like JB uses ram pretty efficiently. More helps tho.
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Ram use age is not only dependent upon the applications running... If you use roms like xylon or liquid etc there are options to show how much ram is used by applications, cache and one other thing which i can't remember right now.. So basically my ram use age in real life had always been nearly to 1.6 1.7 GB!
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That much RAM? you are on a custom Rom? Could you list your apps?
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Maximum RAM used on my N4 was about 800-900 MB. Stock everything, with some services running like Facebook,Whatsapp,8tracks,Lightflow and a live wallpaper ..
As for the people wondering why some apps appear to "close" on their own despite having enough RAM. Its the app's fault, the code is not written well and does not advantage of Android's multitasking capabilities.
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That much RAM? you are on a custom Rom? Could you list your apps?
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I don't use that many apps..and yea iam on a custom rom...but i guess u didnt get what i am saying...most of the time what ubsee ass ur free rom isn't actually free... It's being used by cache and other things...what most roms show u is only how much ram applications use..as u can see from my screen shot... The phones ram is never entirely free !
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I feel like the device is much snappier. I heard battery is supposed to be better with it as well but I can't confirm. The xda app was never the best , now it is almost fluid o.o. or at least noticeably better. What do you have to say ?
i was told to add this:
http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/1qbko3/art_broken_apps/
edit: I would like to add that the apps i notice this most is for instance, when i use hangouts and i'd right ALOOOOOOOT with someone and then scroll up at a fast rate, it would stutter. Now, this stutter is nearly gone.
XDA - xda app is one of the most noticeable, stutter has been reduced by such a large margin that you'd have to try it yourself to believe it.
G+ would have the occasional hickup when scrolling through news posts. Next stop would be the play store, it used to stutter a lot as well, now it's become a lot better. Just for the hell of it i compared it to my sister's note 2 and the difference is there.
I doubt this is a placebo effect, i'm even considering to make a video as proof with dalvik on and off for the hell of it.
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I figured people will ask this question soon enough, so I'll just ask it now..
Does WhatsApp work?
No WhatsApp does not work. It is stated and asked on other threads.
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MameTozhio said:
I figured people will ask this question soon enough, so I'll just ask it now..
Does WhatsApp work?
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can't install
I tested it, system processes were failing, reverted back to 4.3... I tested the unofficial build from Paranoid Android then....
By the way, factory image for Nexus 4 is out, anyone tried it already? Any thoughts? Including ART?
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Please do not go off topic
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I'm using it.....a Lil snappier but noticeable... But a increase in battery life so far...everything seems so buttery... Hard to tell
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Oops wrong.
Albert62 said:
It sucks.
The Nexus doesn't even get the Nexus's 5 launcher. I don't see much difference. I'd call it 4.3.2
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someone posted this, i only have the link sadly so i can't give credits, thanks regardless.
https://mega.co.nz/#!EBIBFKpB!FoxEijz50FrcoBlSQXJG3wznJvpkqzbp936w1jk4J14
Paste that into your system lib/app and install the launcher app in the folder and voila: you've got it all.
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I tested it, system processes were failing, reverted back to 4.3... I tested the unofficial build from Paranoid Android then....
By the way, factory image for Nexus 4 is out, anyone tried it already? Any thoughts? Including ART?
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Well, it's kind of obvious, if you want the best experience for now you're going to want to go with the official 4.4, since the developers need their time to work their magic.
I have no crashes, i'm using ART so far cause i could care less about what's app. I'll report in about battery life observations once i've at least had this thing running for a whole day.
Feels really smooth so far; don't use any apps that crash(thankfully) on ART. Hard to tell with the battery as I came off a custom kernel that was picked for low power usage. Like with any new firmware, it usually takes a few days of my phone running before I can really judge things. Got to give all the apps running a little time to muck things up to get a solid feel for real world performance; but I'm hopeful from what the past few hours performance/battery wise.
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please stop going off topic, seriously
most apps feel smoother using ART, a few actually feels slower. but overall, things are a tad bit quicker. that said, ART still has some issues, and can feel buggy at times.
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No WhatsApp does not work. It is stated and asked on other threads.
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I know that. I was just asking before other people did. Because it has been said in other threads as you've said, yet people still ask.
Anyway I really like ART. Better memory management it seems to have when using it, and feels snappier
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please stop going off topic, seriously
most apps feel smoother using ART, a few actually feels slower. but overall, things are a tad bit quicker. that said, ART still has some issues, and can feel buggy at times.
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Buggy? Were do you feel the bugs?
I'm not saying it is not buggy, I just want to know before I switch
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Just switched to art on today's stock KitKat after running art on nexus 5 port for a week. No stability issues and have 165 apps installed with no bugs. Battery life is improved by approximately 15% and performance is much quicker
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It's not worth the hassle in my opinion. I couldn't notice any tangible difference, performance-wise. I tried it on SlimKat, though. I may probably give it a second try now on stock but the whole idea of having non-working apps like Whatsapp and TiBu just takes the appealing away for now.
Could this just an elaborate hoax to test the placebo effect of Android optimization? I don't understand the true potential if it.
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Buggy? Were do you feel the bugs?
I'm not saying it is not buggy, I just want to know before I switch
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it just seems that with time, there develops slowdowns. like a far majority of the time i press the recents button and they pop open fast. but occasionally, it takes its time. like a few seconds. i only get that when using ART. im not knocking it, because i do enjoy playing with it. im just giving my experience
sorry for OT but whatsapp is working fine in the facory image,am i missing something?
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sorry for OT but whatsapp is working fine in the facory image,am i missing something?
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Did you switch to ART?
PoisonWolf said:
Did you switch to ART?
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sorry no my bad