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So im rooted and have done backup, also installed Fresh Rom 1.1
Now the question that i have is, if i ever needed to go back to a stock Hero ROM...all i would have to do is apply RUU?
Also inorder to receive any kinda updates in the hopefully near future from Sprint or HTC i would need have stock ROM running?
Thanks in advance

DiMa1720 said:
So im rooted and have done backup, also installed Fresh Rom 1.1
Now the question that i have is, if i ever needed to go back to a stock Hero ROM...all i would have to do is apply RUU?
Also inorder to receive any kinda updates in the hopefully near future from Sprint or HTC i would need have stock ROM running?
Thanks in advance
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RUU does take you back to an unrooted stock phone.
Also, if you do want to get sprint updates you would need to RUU it back. Chances are however that if you get a Sprint update, our current Root will be patched, therefor you won't be able to run a ROM until someone finds a new root method. Which will more than likely be more difficult to find than the first root exploit was...kind of a Murphy's law thing.
XDA will likely have an update just as good or better out by the time Sprint does release theirs. Definitely will have the same update out for root users within 24 hours. At least historically.

O good, thanks for the verification... just making search... then i will await the communties update

[Q] noob about to root and lag fix. advice wanted

Hi all, I hope you're not all tired of another noob posting up how-to questions. I come from a pretty solid background of writing modified firmware packages Motorola and Blackberry units, and writing custom themes for them both, so I am a bit familiar with the processes involved in rooting. Android is an entirely new beast though. I love it already, but I've also identified some things I'd love to be able to change. I've been reading everything I can in these forums for the past week, and I think I might be nearly ready to start diving into the root world. Yes, I've used the search a LOT Before I do root though, I wonder if you all might be able to add some insight into a few questions I haven't found the answers to thus far:
My rooting goals: remove the AT&T bloatware, possibly do a lag fix, and above all, do it the safest way possible. Baby steps first for me.
1) Rooting methods: Should I do the manual way, I found in that pdf guide on this site, the "GalaxyS_One-Click_Root_All_Models.zip" method, the mystery "update.zip" folder method, or the "one click root lag fix" method? Which is the safest and most tried and true for Stock 2.1 f/w, Baseband I897UCJH7? Also, what would be the best method to use if I wanted later to unroot?
2) Lag fixes: I've read that lag fixes can cause major problems when trying to undo them later on. Is there a lag fix that works well that is safer than others to load that can be removed easily? Are lag fixes even worth it?
3) Odin3: Am I correct in assuming that since I have JH7 that the most recent version of Odin is not capable of fully restoring my phone back to stock? I've been seeing posts from many people say that even using Odin, their phones get stuck during the revert process and cannot get back to stock. This is probably my biggest concern of all, in case I brick my phone. I've done that a LOT of times with Motorolas, and it's not a bit of fun trying to restore them.
Thanks very much in advance. Best wishes to all

The first piece of advice I have is make sure you have a cappi that you can get into recovery and download modes via the button combinations - if you can do this then you will be able to recover to a working configuration from just about any situation.
second, make sure you want to do this, because as you can get back to a "stock configuration" once you begin applying lag fixes or custom roms you will not likely be ever able to get back to your own stock configuration.
As for which rooting method - I have used and update zip and ryanza OCLF to root. Both of these methods are easy to unroot - at least until you begin applying lag fixes and/or custom roms.
If you are sure you want to move forward and root the very first thing you should do after rooting before you do any lag fixes or remove any bloat is get clockwork rom manager. Learn how to use rom manager and make a full nandroid backup of your phone before you do anything. If you have a good nandroid backup saved in a safe location then you can use this to get back as close as possible as you can to your own stock configuration later on.
Oden3 will get you back to a stock jf6 configuration. This will not be your stock configuration, but it is a working stock configuration.
Lag fixes do improve the lag in the file system some. However, before you play with any of them educate yourself as much as you can about the particular one you are going to try and use. I have applied both OCLF and voodoo and have been able to remove both of them. But if you don't follow the steps correctly you can have problems - after all with the lag fixes you are reformatting part or all of your data partition where the os is residing which is inherently risky. You can easily lose data and even soft brick your phone forcing you to use Oden3 to get back to a working state.
Lastly, I am running Cognition 2.2 beta 5 very successfully - and I do recommend it for anyone that has entered the rabbit hole of modifying this phone. And with my current config my phone is running so well that the lag fix is not needed for me anyway. My phone is running smooth and fast.
P.S. Just make sure you are not going to have any major regrets if things go wrong before you do anything at all, because any and all of these steps have some amount of risk associated with them. Make sure you are prepared for dealing with voiding your warranty and even though it is hard to brick this phone, it could still happen so be ready for that too should it happen.

i would agree, go with cognition 2.2. i only had my captivate for a day, and found it very easy to get it installed without any hassle.

Thanks for the info all. I've read about Cognition a fair bit and was wondering if I ought to go for it. What are the differences between it and the standrd Froyo leak?
A more pressing question: If I went to Cognition 2.2, would I be able to easily get the official release OTA and install it normally when/if it becomes available? Are there step-by-step guides out there for getting that release onto and off of the phone? I'd hate to get Cognition on there and find out that i couldn't easily get it back to a state where I could get the full deal on there. I've read some horror stories about just that lately...

charging rhinos said:
Thanks for the info all. I've read about Cognition a fair bit and was wondering if I ought to go for it. What are the differences between it and the standrd Froyo leak?
A more pressing question: If I went to Cognition 2.2, would I be able to easily get the official release OTA and install it normally when/if it becomes available? Are there step-by-step guides out there for getting that release onto and off of the phone? I'd hate to get Cognition on there and find out that i couldn't easily get it back to a state where I could get the full deal on there. I've read some horror stories about just that lately...
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If you are wanting to get OTA updates then I wouldn't even root your phone - while it is possible to still get OTA's after rooting, once you begin modding (lag fix, or custom rom) you oare increasing making your phone less and les compatible with any OTA available.
NOTE: I personally will not ever apply an OTA myself - but rather will wait for someone else to create a custom mod of any OTA feature I like - them donate that dev a few dollars and use their mod.

Im getting my cap this Friday, I was going to post the same thing OP. Looks like cog 2.2 is the way to go when i get it.

[Q] Failed updates

I need some help. I have a revolution with 2.2.2 still on the phone. due to being a noob I tried to install a gingerbread version of a rom on the phone of course It didn't seem to work. by the way i should mention I am rooted and I can not upgrade veia the phone upgrade failed every time. However in the research I have done has lead me to believe that all of the roms I want to try to get a hold of are on a non existence web sight Right now I just need anything that will get my phone back up and running. I would very much like to use the revolt Rom but again the multiupload.com is down. Can anyone help me with this. I have searched the sight but I seem to be going around in a circle.
Ok so thank you for helping me out, however, being as I am slow to understand things. I figured things out. and just so everyone else doesn't feel bad. I have no problem with people laughing at me

this may help...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1337386&highlight=zv4&page=1
im currently dabblin with this one since my phone is still runnin 2.2.2 as well, reverted to stock rom unrooted everything and no ota updates so this is how to do it manually.
as long as its not currently bricked otherwise u have to do it the long way. i think, unless im thinkin of my old droid... but if this doesnt help give more info and someone will be able to help

regarding OTA, does anyone know the name of the file, and what folder in which to find it? Tired of having to DL it aGAIN every time whatever I try fails. I'm guessing cache....nothing seems real obvious, like it was on my Bionic
(update, got update to complete 2nd try, MtMichaelson is slightly richer!)

I'm a little behind and kind of lost.

FEEL FREE TO DELETE IT JUST TOOK A LITTLE READING I'M GOOD NOW
So i'm currently running a Beta Eclipse ROM from a couple months back based off of .901. I've just been busy and lazy and haven't bothered to update to a newer ROM and unfortunately I'm kind of at a loss as to what's changed over the past couple months. I'm thinking I want to upgrade to the latest version of Eclipse which would be the v3.0 .905 based ROM but I'm not sure which steps to take at this point. Should I revert to stock and update OTA to 905, re-root, and flash the newest ROM? If so what's the best way to go back to stock at this point. If that is not the best route to take could someone point me in the right direction.
Also, I've read into it a little bit but is it worth messing with the leaked ICS builds?
EDIT: Found DroidModderX's tutorials and i'm on the right track. I'm currently FXZ'ing back to .902 stock and will update to .905 from the SD card after.

Bionic ICS Update Newb Installer

Bionic
Verizon network
System Info: 6.7.2231.xt875
Android version: 4.0.4
Build Number: 6.7.2_223
So I got fed up with the phone as it was and updated it to the info above. I have never done this before and just did it following the info instructions on droidhive. Didnt do anything more than back up contacts and downloaded the ICS leak and installed it with out bootstrap this or bootloader that or anything. Probably did more than I should have as I dont undertand anything about rooting or ROMS or anything else.
Now my understanding from reading here is when and if Verizon does a OTA upgrade I will not either 1) recieve notification nor 2) be able to download it is that correct? I also cannot go back to my old build since I didnt , insert magic special thing I should have downloaded or installed prior to me updating, is that correct also? Can I do further upgrades that I have been reading about on this forum as written and in theory if I follow the instructions should be ok? or do I need to go back to the old build (if possible) then work my way back up?
I probably should have left well enough alone but I was getting so pissed with my phone and I tell you since I upgraded to that leak it runs very nice with a few hiccups when I try and run different apps. Figure if I screw it up too bad I can always get the Samsung Siii...and not mess with it...thanks for entertaining this newb!!

Take a look at this thread. It shows how to get back to .905, or to go to newer versions without losing your data. As of right now, I suggest going with the .232 leak, which is the latest you can go to while still being able to return your phone to gingerbread.
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/droid-bionic-hacks/214902-downgrade-902-no-app-data-loss.html

Android_Troop said:
Bionic
Verizon network
System Info: 6.7.2231.xt875
Android version: 4.0.4
Build Number: 6.7.2_223
So I got fed up with the phone as it was and updated it to the info above. I have never done this before and just did it following the info instructions on droidhive. Didnt do anything more than back up contacts and downloaded the ICS leak and installed it with out bootstrap this or bootloader that or anything. Probably did more than I should have as I dont undertand anything about rooting or ROMS or anything else.
Now my understanding from reading here is when and if Verizon does a OTA upgrade I will not either 1) recieve notification nor 2) be able to download it is that correct? I also cannot go back to my old build since I didnt , insert magic special thing I should have downloaded or installed prior to me updating, is that correct also? Can I do further upgrades that I have been reading about on this forum as written and in theory if I follow the instructions should be ok? or do I need to go back to the old build (if possible) then work my way back up?
I probably should have left well enough alone but I was getting so pissed with my phone and I tell you since I upgraded to that leak it runs very nice with a few hiccups when I try and run different apps. Figure if I screw it up too bad I can always get the Samsung Siii...and not mess with it...thanks for entertaining this newb!!
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I agree.. if you are running 223 right now.. i would stick with it till the ota. You might not recieve notification but either way, you will be able to dl the image and load it the same was as you did with 223. seeing as how it will be signed it shouldn't be a problem. I have been running 223 for a few days now and overall i'm very happy with it. i just wish that i could turn the 4g off sometimes because it's a beast on the battery in my area..

I'm Loving the .223 update. It has made my Bionic into the phone Verizon should have provided me from day one!!! It isn't perfect, but it is darn good, miles, yards, acres, even years ahead of Gingerbread.

Phiber187 said:
I agree.. if you are running 223 right now.. i would stick with it till the ota. You might not recieve notification but either way, you will be able to dl the image and load it the same was as you did with 223. seeing as how it will be signed it shouldn't be a problem. I have been running 223 for a few days now and overall i'm very happy with it. i just wish that i could turn the 4g off sometimes because it's a beast on the battery in my area..
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Phiber187.. Get "Phone info" app from the Android market (Sorry Google Play) It will allow you to turn 4g on and off.

Bionic
Verizon network
System Info: 6.7.2231.xt875
Android version: 4.0.4
Build Number: 6.7.2_223
Guys still running above on the phone but have read of some upgrade/ROMs that I'd like to do, but it says I need to be rooted and I never rooted even when I did the upgrade shown above. Everything Im reading on how to root is assuming Im on the stock GB does it matter that Im not on GB and I still can do it on ICS the same way? Please advise on steps to root it now so I can continue upgrading and installing ROMS...thanks!