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Hi all
I bought the Xperia Z C6603 in UK will it get 3g or 4g or let in NY, USA?
i been reading in the blogs that it wont support you will only get GPRS or EDGE based on this t-mobile thread http://support.t-mobile.com/thread/40671?start=0&tstart=0
but can the Devs do something to make it work on 3g/4g with current hardware in the phone? or should I return and buy the phone when it comes in the USA?
all help is appreciated
I'm not sure about 3g, but I've heard that the 4g bands that the phone uses are different then being used in the States. So that won't work.
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coolshah said:
Hi all
I bought the Xperia Z C6603 in UK will it get 3g or 4g or let in NY, USA?
i been reading in the blogs that it wont support you will only get GPRS or EDGE based on this t-mobile thread http://support.t-mobile.com/thread/40671?start=0&tstart=0
but can the Devs do something to make it work on 3g/4g with current hardware in the phone? or should I return and buy the phone when it comes in the USA?
all help is appreciated
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As I posted here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2231009&page=2
The reason is, according to T mobile
Depending on where a tower is at in the 4G life cycle, theoretical maximum download speeds range from 21 Mbps – 42 Mbps.
T-Mobile's HSPA+ network operates on the same band as our 3G network, Band IV, which uses 1700 MHz and 2100 MHz frequencies to transmit voice and data services. The 1700 MHz frequency sends information to cell sites and the 2100 MHz frequency receives information.
As with our 3G network, both 1700 MHz frequency and 2100 MHz frequency are required for a device to function. If a device only has one of these frequencies, it cannot use T-Mobile’s 3G and 4G networks.
T-Mobile is switching some 1900 MHz frequency from EDGE to HSPA+. This will allow devices that work on 1900 MHz, such as AT&T devices, to use our 4G network.
and yes,the Xperia z uses UMTS HSPA+ Bands 1, 3, 5, 8 which are
1 for 2100, 3 for 1800, 5 for 850 and 8 for 900
the HSDPA in T mobile are in the bands 1700 and 2100, just like the 3G, and the Xperia Z model c6603 uses bands 850/900/1700 only!!! the C6602 model uses the same bands plus /1900/2100 so, if you miss one band in T mobile you will never have the HSDPA speed, no matter the firmware,because is hardware
This info is according to Sony Official Page www.sonymobile.com, so as you can see you are missing one band, the 1700
Resuming, is hardware issue, and I dont think that the developers will be able to get 4G speeds or even HSDPA if the chip required is missing iin the c6603
c6602 is the only choice
Im currently have c6602 on tmobile and I can get h+ speed on it I did order c6603 and only get EDGE. You will have to set APN manually se the phone canlog into the network. Or u will have to get ZL since I heard that Xperia Z wont be distributed through any US carriers.
Hi all,
first post here on xda. not sure if it was asked - is it possible to flash the frequency bands from c6602 on a c6603? or some type of software hack that will allow the c6603 to use the c6602 bands?
thanx
diopskill said:
Hi all,
first post here on xda. not sure if it was asked - is it possible to flash the frequency bands from c6602 on a c6603? or some type of software hack that will allow the c6603 to use the c6602 bands?
thanx
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Why would you want to do that for what reason ?
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I'm here in the states. Figured it may be easier to flash then to sell this model and buy a c6602. Was thinking about changing to T-Mobile that's all.
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Flashing bands doesn't give the phone frequency bands. It's a hardware thing, flashing bands from 02 to 03 doesn't do much as 03 bands are fixed.
You may bring up how come 03 can enable lte by flashing c6506 bands. Well the answer is that 03 has those bands to begin with, it just grant access for it to connect to certain frequencies.
In conclusion, it's a hardware chip, flashing bands doesn't give the phone frequency bands.
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why dont you post this in the right section?
just flash it and see...its not gonna crash your phone if u know what your doing with flashtool
Sorry will post in correct section next time. Thank you. Still learning Sony and flashtool. Coming from nexus devices. one last? , o can flash the 6506 in the 03 and activate US let bands?
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diopskill said:
Sorry will post in correct section next time. Thank you. Still learning Sony and flashtool. Coming from nexus devices. one last? , o can flash the 6506 in the 03 and activate US let bands?
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i do not think the states have the correct bands to match it. i think someone tried it already with t-mo.
works for canadians..
diopskill said:
Sorry will post in correct section next time. Thank you. Still learning Sony and flashtool. Coming from nexus devices. one last? , o can flash the 6506 in the 03 and activate US let bands?
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actually it may work for your device, 6602, i try it yesterday but dint work, I'm not complaining with 15mbps down and 3 mbps up...the download is more important, I can stream music, watch youtube 1080p fine.
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i do not think the states have the correct bands to match it. i think someone tried it already with t-mo.
works for canadians..
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So the c6603 and c6602 and C6506 do not have the same bands in it internally/hardware wise? My understanding is that they do. I am on tmobile in the states with the c6603 and I am checking on here everyday looking for a us tmobile c6603 thread but all i see is the canadians working miracles across the border. My question would be if we could flash the c6506 in the states on c6603 would that allow us any lte? or should I just wait till the end of the yr when they finish hspa+?
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So the c6603 and c6602 and C6506 do not have the same bands in it internally/hardware wise? My understanding is that they do. I am on tmobile in the states with the c6603 and I am checking on here everyday looking for a us tmobile c6603 thread but all i see is the canadians working miracles across the border. My question would be if we could flash the c6506 in the states on c6603 would that allow us any lte? or should I just wait till the end of the yr when they finish hspa+?
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C6506: LTE 700 / 850 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100
C6603: LTE 800 / 850 / 900 / 1800 / 2100 / 2600
C6602: Doesnt have LTE bands. It has the same chip as C6603 but its deactivated or whatever. I dont think flashing C6506 baseband will work.
Flashing 6506 baseband on 6603 in the states, I dont know will it work in the states. LTE frequencies/towers locations are different for every country and carrier. LTE isnt out at all locations, just cause one band is supported doesnt mean the other ones are supported.
Only way to find out if it works is to flash it and test it out.
It works for canadians cause most LTE used by carriers are 2100 and 2600.
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C6506: LTE 700 / 850 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100
C6603: LTE 800 / 850 / 900 / 1800 / 2100 / 2600
C6602: Doesnt have LTE bands. It has the same chip as C6603 but its deactivated or whatever. I dont think flashing C6506 baseband will work.
Flashing 6506 baseband on 6603 in the states, I dont know will it work in the states. LTE frequencies/towers locations are different for every country and carrier. LTE isnt out at all locations, just cause one band is supported doesnt mean the other ones are supported.
Only way to find out if it works is to flash it and test it out.
It works for canadians cause most LTE used by carriers are 2100 and 2600.
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If you flash a 6506 baseband to a 6603, will you gain 1700 and 2100 for HSPA+? Or is there a hardware limitation? Having support for HSPA+ and (possibly) LTE for Tmobile & AT&T in US is very appealing.
6602 has HSPA+ support but lacks LTE ability since it doesn't have the bands. Must be a hardware limitation.
6603 has LTE support after flashing the 6506 baseband for (possible) LTE US support but lacks 1700 and 1900 for HSPA+
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If you flash a 6506 baseband to a 6603, will you gain 1700 and 2100 for HSPA+? Or is there a hardware limitation? Having support for HSPA+ and (possibly) LTE for Tmobile & AT&T in US is very appealing.
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LitoNi said:
C6506: LTE 700 / 850 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100
C6603: LTE 800 / 850 / 900 / 1800 / 2100 / 2600
C6602: Doesnt have LTE bands. It has the same chip as C6603 but its deactivated or whatever. I dont think flashing C6506 baseband will work.
Flashing 6506 baseband on 6603 in the states, I dont know will it work in the states. LTE frequencies/towers locations are different for every country and carrier. LTE isnt out at all locations, just cause one band is supported doesnt mean the other ones are supported.
Only way to find out if it works is to flash it and test it out.
It works for canadians cause most LTE used by carriers are 2100 and 2600.
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I am asking about HSPA+ which is not mentioned. Please do not replied to my threads. Contacting mod.
dsmero said:
I am asking about HSPA+ which is not mentioned. Please do not replied to my threads. Contacting mod.
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iamswissbanks said:
So the c6603 and c6602 and C6506 do not have the same bands in it internally/hardware wise? My understanding is that they do. I am on tmobile in the states with the c6603 and I am checking on here everyday looking for a us tmobile c6603 thread but all i see is the canadians working miracles across the border. My question would be if we could flash the c6506 in the states on c6603 would that allow us any lte? or should I just wait till the end of the yr when they finish hspa+?
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By chance is there a secret code accessible by the dial pad to access the frequency or radio bands to activate or switch between bands?
meant model Z.........So I just read about this model and see it has AWS and 700 Mhz for LTE - does this mean if I get this phone it will work on AT&T LTE in the U.S? Anyone tried this yet?
also.....Negri Electronics has a unlocked Z Tmobile in black that says it has 700Mhz and AWS LTE bands but they say it can only be used outside U.S. (they list it as international) that AT&T would block it? WTF over?
i dont think at&t will block it. if it supports the at&t lte bands it will get lte but there are multiple lte bands for at&t so if it only supports one of them lte will be spotty depending on the area the phone is used in
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i dont think at&t will block it. if it supports the at&t lte bands it will get lte but there are multiple lte bands for at&t so if it only supports one of them lte will be spotty depending on the area the phone is used in
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Yeah, I don't know......I chatted with a rep there and all he would say is that you cannot use this in the U.S. - I asked if this is because tmobile has a contract w/ Sony and he said I'd have to ask Sony about that. It almost seems like that is what they have to say - but i'm wondering if it would work.
this is what the site says about the frequencies for this model:
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network WCDMA 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100
4G Network LTE 700 / 850 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100
i think other users in this forum are using one of the xperia z's with at&t
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i think other users in this forum are using one of the xperia z's with at&t
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Yeah, but are they getting LTE? Why the hell Sony chose to release the ZL with AT&T LTE frequencies but not the Z (at least not officially) is beyond me......
probably the same reason it took 6 months for tmobile to get it(which is the the one i have)
I already tried flashing 6616 baseband. Unfortunately, it doesn't have 700 band LTE. It is from Bell, even though they state that their 6616 has AWS and 700.
I'm currently using 6506 baseband but I can't get access to at&t LTE network.
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So, has anyone successfully gotten LTE on AT&T anywhere with the Xperia Z?
yes in So Cal on 1700 mhz towers only
keith777 said:
So, has anyone successfully gotten LTE on AT&T anywhere with the Xperia Z?
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I have successfully had LTE on AT&T in Southern California but that is the only location..
Hi everyone,
I'm thinking of purchasing a SONY XPERIA Z1 but I'm confused on the versions: does anyone know what would be the difference between C6903, C6906 and C6943 ?
I'm using 4G on TMobile U.S.A., so, which model will be best fit for that network and, again, what is the difference between those versions?
Thank you.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=2509
Answering my own question, it seems that the only difference between the versions are the Bands and Frequencies, as follows:
Supported networks Xperia™ Z1 C6902/L39h: UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1700 (Band IV), 1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I) MHz; GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz.
Supported networks Xperia™ Z1 C6903: UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1700 (Band IV), 1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I) MHz; GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz; LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 20).
Supported networks Xperia™ Z1 C6906: UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1700 (Band IV), 1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I) MHz; GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz; LTE (Bands 1, 2, 4, 5, 7, 8, 17).
Supported networks Xperia™ Z1 C6943: UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1700 (Band IV), 1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I) MHz; GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 20).
U.S.A TMobile's 4G LTE uses Band IV (4), 1700/2100 Mhz Frequencies.
So can someone tell me the difference between the C6903 and the C6943? They appear to be identical.
C6906 or C6903?
I am still uncertain as to which model would be best to use in the U.S. running 4G?
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I am still uncertain as to which model would be best to use in the U.S. running 4G?
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Trying to work this out too, from a couple of posts up it looks like if you're on tmobile either the 6903 or 6906 you're good but I only started looking at these the other day so it would be nice to hear from others who have already gone through this. Where I am tmobile are offering LTE service..
I think the C6903 is good if you're using T-Mobile, that's what I heard from a different post I commented on.
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musekidjose said:
I think the C6903 is good if you're using T-Mobile, that's what I heard from a different post I commented on.
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I use my C6903 on T-Mobile and get LTE. I live in the States.
It was leaked two days ago that T-Mobile USA will carry the Sony Xperia Z1.
Do you know what version they will be carrying?
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musekidjose said:
Do you know what version they will be carrying?
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No, there is only a photo of the back of a Z1 with "T-Mobile" printed on it.
Here's what I've gathered regarding the differences between the C6902, C6903, C6906 and C6943 versions.
All versions only differ by the LTE frequencies they support from what I can see. Can anyone find any other differences because I sure can't?
C6902
No LTE support. Who wants that?
C6903 and C6943
These two have the same LTE frequency support (LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 20)). Although band 4 is used by T-Mobile and AT&T, 3 and 20 are used in other countries, so these models appear to be "international" versions.
I cannot find any difference between these two versions. Here's the white papers - can you find any difference?
http://dl-developer.sonymobile.com/documentation/whitepapers/Xperia_Z1_LTE_C6903_WP_3.pdf
http://dl-developer.sonymobile.com/documentation/whitepapers/Xperia_Z1_LTE_C6943_WP_3.pdf
C6906
This is what us USA folks want it seems. This model excludes two LTE frequencies supported by the other two (bands 3 and 20) and adds one: 17. From what I've gathered from Wiki, band 4 is used exclusively for T-Mobile's LTE, and AT&T uses bands 4 and 17.
Please correct me if I'm wrong about any of this. :fingers-crossed:
I read on another thread that the C6943 is "the Brazil version with digital television".
So I've gotten the C6903 and it is working perfectly fine on T-Mobile. I am getting LTE.
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musekidjose said:
So I've gotten the C6903 and it is working perfectly fine on T-Mobile. I am getting LTE.
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Yep, that's expected. Nice choice!
The differences between the c6943 and the c6903 are the bands and the c6943 has TV.
Difference between C6903 and C6943
s1dest3pnate said:
Here's what I've gathered regarding the differences between the C6902, C6903, C6906 and C6943 versions.
All versions only differ by the LTE frequencies they support from what I can see. Can anyone find any other differences because I sure can't?
C6902
No LTE support. Who wants that?
C6903 and C6943
These two have the same LTE frequency support (LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 20)). Although band 4 is used by T-Mobile and AT&T, 3 and 20 are used in other countries, so these models appear to be "international" versions.
I cannot find any difference between these two versions. Here's the white papers - can you find any difference?
C6906
This is what us USA folks want it seems. This model excludes two LTE frequencies supported by the other two (bands 3 and 20) and adds one: 17. From what I've gathered from Wiki, band 4 is used exclusively for T-Mobile's LTE, and AT&T uses bands 4 and 17.
Please correct me if I'm wrong about any of this. :fingers-crossed:
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The C6943 have digital TV. Just it.
s1dest3pnate said:
Here's what I've gathered regarding the differences between the C6902, C6903, C6906 and C6943 versions.
All versions only differ by the LTE frequencies they support from what I can see. Can anyone find any other differences because I sure can't?
C6902
No LTE support. Who wants that?
C6903 and C6943
These two have the same LTE frequency support (LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 20)). Although band 4 is used by T-Mobile and AT&T, 3 and 20 are used in other countries, so these models appear to be "international" versions.
I cannot find any difference between these two versions. Here's the white papers - can you find any difference?
http://dl-developer.sonymobile.com/documentation/whitepapers/Xperia_Z1_LTE_C6903_WP_3.pdf
http://dl-developer.sonymobile.com/documentation/whitepapers/Xperia_Z1_LTE_C6943_WP_3.pdf
C6906
This is what us USA folks want it seems. This model excludes two LTE frequencies supported by the other two (bands 3 and 20) and adds one: 17. From what I've gathered from Wiki, band 4 is used exclusively for T-Mobile's LTE, and AT&T uses bands 4 and 17.
Please correct me if I'm wrong about any of this. :fingers-crossed:
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Exacly!
EEngineer said:
I read on another thread that the C6943 is "the Brazil version with digital television".
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Yes, the C6943 Model has Digital Signal for TV this is the only difference between C6903
I'm running a c6906 on at&t, amazing lte service. Not sure about toile though, you need to check the band's.
So this may be the wrong place to ask this but I'll risk it anyway.
Even tho I think I have a C6906 may I flash C6903 FTF files onto it?
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Just curious if buying it unlocked and using it on T-Mobile would be an option? Wanting to know if it'll work with the proper bands here?
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Kanes_Inferno said:
Just curious if buying it unlocked and using it on T-Mobile would be an option? Wanting to know if it'll work with the proper bands here?
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Xperia Z3 (D6616) is supposedly headed to T-Mobile US as per reports. Not sure of Z3C though. I'm almost certain that you will be able to use its 2G if you bought it unlocked. It is better to check with T-mobile what 3G bands they use and then you can look up the spec sheet of Z3C to see if that band is supported.
I had once bought the Samsung Wave unlocked from abroad and used with T-mobile. Only 2G worked flawlessly. 3G was not supported.
coolmalayalee said:
Xperia Z3 (D6616) is supposedly headed to T-Mobile US as per reports. Not sure of Z3C though. I'm almost certain that you will be able to use its 2G if you bought it unlocked. It is better to check with T-mobile what 3G bands they use and then you can look up the spec sheet of Z3C to see if that band is supported.
I had once bought the Samsung Wave unlocked from abroad and used with T-mobile. Only 2G worked flawlessly. 3G was not supported.
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Z3C is shown as coming soon on their US website. I believe all T-Mobile bands are supported except for band 12 which is only on D6616.
http://www.sonymobile.com/us/products/phones/
Kanes_Inferno said:
Just curious if buying it unlocked and using it on T-Mobile would be an option? Wanting to know if it'll work with the proper bands here?
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AK4TAY7BEN said:
Z3C is shown as coming soon on their US website. I believe all T-Mobile bands are supported except for band 12 which is only on D6616.
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Yes, the D5803 variant of the Sony Z3 Compact should work withT-mobile.
D5803
UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1700 (Band IV), 1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I) MHz
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 13, 17, 20)
D5833
UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I) MHz
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
LTE (Bands 1, 3, 5, 7, 8, 28)
TD LTE Band 40
Kanes_Inferno said:
Just curious if buying it unlocked and using it on T-Mobile would be an option? Wanting to know if it'll work with the proper bands here?
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I have an exact answer for your question, hope you like unboxing videos Tmobile Z3 Unboxing
so pretty much like the Z1 (C6903 variant that did all USA 4G/LTE and 3G)!
drago10029 said:
I have an exact answer for your question, hope you like unboxing videos l
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how is that an exact answer? he's asking about the z3c, the video is about the z3 lol
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how is that an exact answer? he's asking about the z3c, the video is about the z3 lol
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You're right. But the answer is YES! It will work, they have the same hardware minus the bezel, screen and battery. same innards
drago10029 said:
You're right. But the answer is YES! It will work, they have the same hardware minus the bezel, screen and battery. same innards
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That's not true, the D6616 which is the T-Mobile version of the Z3 was customized for T-Mobile and has additional memory. It also supports different LTE bands than the other Z3 models.
The international Z3 Compact should work with T-Mobile but it will not have Band 12 LTE, and probably not work with WiFi calling or VoLTE.
se1000 said:
That's not true, the D6616 which is the T-Mobile version of the Z3 was customized for T-Mobile and has additional memory. It also supports different LTE bands than the other Z3 models.
The international Z3 Compact should work with T-Mobile but it will not have Band 12 LTE, and probably not work with WiFi calling or VoLTE.
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Well, if you have a better answer than by all means you can answer his question. I was just taking a stab at it based off of good assumptions.
I don't believe T-Mobile is getting the compact version, check this http://developer.sonymobile.com/tag/d5833/ and notice the tags at the bottom, no mention of a D5816 which should be the model of the compact TMO version, if there was one, based on D6616 being the standard size version.
It looks like this phone will be compatible up to HSPA 21Mbit, GSM and Edge on T-Mobile. It seems to be missing the 1700/2100 AWS required for T-Mobile's 42Mbit "4G"
From T-Mobile: http://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-6991
In order to work on T-Mobile's network, the device must support one of the following frequencies:
850 MHz (2G)
1900 MHz (2G or 3G / 4G depending on location)
1700/2100 MHz (3G / 4G or LTE depending on location)
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See also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-Mobile_US#Radio_frequency_spectrum_chart
From Sony: http://dl-developer.sonymobile.com/documentation/whitepapers/Xperia_Z3_Compact_D5803_D5833_WP_1.pdf
D5803
UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1700 (Band IV), 1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I) MHz
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 13, 17, 20)
D5833
UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I) MHz
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
LTE (Bands 1, 3, 5, 7, 8, 28)
TD LTE Band 40
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So you'd end up with EDGE, GSM, and HSPA 21Mbit. Wikipedia does list Band 2 LTE on 1900MHz and the D5803 variant does support Band 2 LTE but I'm not sure if that make it compatible
Nuckin said:
It looks like this phone will be compatible up to HSPA 21Mbit, GSM and Edge on T-Mobile. It seems to be missing the 1700/2100 AWS required for T-Mobile's 42Mbit "4G"
From T-Mobile: http://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-6991
See also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-Mobile_US#Radio_frequency_spectrum_chart
From Sony: http://dl-developer.sonymobile.com/documentation/whitepapers/Xperia_Z3_Compact_D5803_D5833_WP_1.pdf
So you'd end up with EDGE, GSM, and HSPA 21Mbit. Wikipedia does list Band 2 LTE on 1900MHz and the D5803 variant does support Band 2 LTE but I'm not sure if that make it compatible
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I think you may be mistaken. It supports the T-Mobile AWS bands, which are 1700/2100, at least on the D5803 model, which is what the UK retailers are supposedly selling. It shouldn't have a problem getting full 42mbps HSPA+ on T-Mobile's network.
Additionally, LTE Band 4 is the T-Mobile AWS LTE, so it supports that as well.
The only T-Moble frequency it doesn't support is the new 700Mhz stuff they bought from ATT (LTE Band 12), but they haven't done anything with that frequency, and likely won't for another year or so.
Firov said:
I think you may be mistaken. It supports the T-Mobile AWS bands, which are 1700/2100, at least on the D5803 model, which is what the UK retailers are supposedly selling. It shouldn't have a problem getting full 42mbps HSPA+ on T-Mobile's network.
Additionally, LTE Band 4 is the T-Mobile AWS LTE, so it supports that as well.
The only T-Moble frequency it doesn't support is the new 700Mhz stuff they bought from ATT (LTE Band 12), but they haven't done anything with that frequency, and likely won't for another year or so.
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Yea I completely glossed over LTE Band 4, whoops. I thought to support 1700/2100 AWS UMTS the phone would have to support both 1700 Band 4 and 2100 Band 4 (which it only supports band 1 at this frequency), but I may be mistaken. And I appreciate you setting the record straight if I'm mistaken in that regard. :good:
Nuckin said:
Yea I completely glossed over LTE Band 4, whoops. I thought to support 1700/2100 AWS UMTS the phone would have to support both 1700 Band 4 and 2100 Band 4 (which it only supports band 1 at this frequency), but I may be mistaken. And I appreciate you setting the record straight if I'm mistaken in that regard. :good:
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I can understand the confusion.
Sony, and possibly other phone manufacturers, don't generally seem to list 2100MHz(IV) seperately, likely since it's "bundled" with 1700MHz(IV) for the purposes of the AWS compatibility. One without the other is largely pointless (I believe).
So by listing 1700MHz (IV), they're indicating that it also supports 2100MHz(IV). As an example of what I mean, look at the official frequency listing for the Xperia Z2, which is my current phone.
D6503
UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1700 (Band IV), 1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I) MHz
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 13, 17, 20)
Notice how it also omits 2100MHz(IV) frequency, but it definitely supports T-Mobile AWS.
Anyway, The Z3 Compact is absolutely going to support AWS.
Firov said:
I can understand the confusion.
Sony, and possibly other phone manufacturers, don't generally seem to list 2100MHz(IV) seperately, likely since it's "bundled" with 1700MHz(IV) for the purposes of the AWS compatibility. One without the other is largely pointless (I believe).
So by listing 1700MHz (IV), they're indicating that it also supports 2100MHz(IV). As an example of what I mean, look at the official frequency listing for the Xperia Z2, which is my current phone.
D6503
UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1700 (Band IV), 1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I) MHz
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 13, 17, 20)
Notice how it also omits 2100MHz(IV) frequency, but it definitely supports T-Mobile AWS.
Anyway, The Z3 Compact is absolutely going to support AWS.
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Thank you for not only the answer but explanation, have a :good:
Thank you all for this info. Guys. I am really tempted to purchase the z3t over the z3 but I was really worried about using LTE connectivity. I have never owned a sony phone, just my galaxy s3 so this is definitely something new for me and I am ready to try something new. I was tempted to purchase from handtech but I think I will wait a week or 2 to make sure. It is said to be available in 2 days. I want LTE, this would be my first LTE experience.
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Thank you all for this info. Guys. I am really tempted to purchase the z3t over the z3 but I was really worried about using LTE connectivity. I have never owned a sony phone, just my galaxy s3 so this is definitely something new for me and I am ready to try something new. I was tempted to purchase from handtech but I think I will wait a week or 2 to make sure. It is said to be available in 2 days. I want LTE, this would be my first LTE experience.
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No need to be concerned.
The Z3C definitely supports T-Mobile's LTE bands, except for the newly purchased 700Mhz stuff from ATT (LTE Band 12), but I wouldn't expect to see that rolled out anywhere sooner than 8 months to a year, and then it's probably going to be present only in very few areas.
Honestly, I don't think Band 12 will be a concern for another couple of years, based on the speed at which T-Mobile initially rolled out LTE.
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No need to be concerned.
The Z3C definitely supports T-Mobile's LTE bands, except for the newly purchased 700Mhz stuff from ATT (LTE Band 12), but I wouldn't expect to see that rolled out anywhere sooner than 8 months to a year, and then it's probably going to be present only in very few areas.
Honestly, I don't think Band 12 will be a concern for another couple of years, based on the speed at which T-Mobile initially rolled out LTE.
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I have a Z3C coming for use on T-Mo in the states (going from GS3 as well). I almost didn't get it because of the lack of compatibility with LTE Band 12, but then I saw where the Band 12 coverage will actually be. Frankly, it doesn't cover my area, so I decided since it is compatible with all the other LTE Bands to go for it.
There is a great map at TMoNews that shows you just where the Band 12 coverage will be, but I can't post links yet.
I cant wait. My z3c will be here tomorrow... thanks for all the info.