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My GF received a nook color for christmas. She is excited to use it as an e-reader but would love to use it for email, video and web-browsing, too. She's pretty dissapointed in the performance of it compared to her Galaxy SII phone. I admit -- the phone is a LOT snappier.
Is this a problem with the stock software/rom or is it the device? Will flashing an aftermarket rom allow her to watch youtube or other streaming video sites? Right now the web browser is pretty slow (especially for video.)
Probably the most immediate cause of slow performance is <tada> the Nook Color is a relatively slow device compared to what's now available, especially the Nook Tablet which is not only two cores crankin' along but two cores crankin' along at what, 50% faster as well.
A custom ROM has two primary benefits:
1) allows for more options and potential, including more highly tuned kernels that can improve performance and battery life, and...
2) overclocking of the processor because those more highly tuned kernels allow for such things (the stock kernel = no overclocking potential at all)
A lot of people definitely overclock the Nook Color because it's relatively easy to do, offers significant performance increases, and doesn't really "harm" the hardware at all in the process.
So, while there is a limit to just how far the Nook Color can go, using a custom ROM designed for it (and it's entirely possible to run a custom ROM directly from the microSD card so the NC remains purely stock) offers almost entirely positive benefits from start to finish with very little negative impact at all (aside from maybe slightly reduced battery life when overclocking).
It's a win-win I'd say.
Or tell her to return the NC and get the NT which obviously is far more powerful and the hacking on that is really just getting started (even in spite of B&N's apparent attempts to keep it locked down a lot more than the NC ever was).
Agreed. You're comparing a dual core high end phone to a single core e-reader. Performance will vary.
A custom ROM is an option. I rooted mine the day after I got mine (only because I didn't have a mSD card) and within a week had CM7 running on it. It has been running custom ROMs ever since, chugging along at 1.2GHz. The overclock to me does help quite a bit in performance.
That being said, isn't it possible to root, install recovery, and flash dal's kernel with the stock ROM. TO be able to OC and have other additional features? That is, if she really wants to keep the stock ROM with things like ICS being developed.
Hey guys,
Last week I used my friends 7.0 plus and loved how fast the tablet was, the quality was great the only issue I had was the size. I wanted something a little bigger.
So I went out and got the 8.9, to my surprise it lags way more than the 7.0 plus. After reading online it’s because the CPU is running at 1ghz and the 7.0 plus is running at 1.2ghz. Also the 7.0 plus is running 3.2 OS.
So I want to overclock my tablet but I don’t know anything about roms and what rom is good and what isn’t. I would like to install a custom rom that just allows me to overclock my tablet not change anything else.
Can any let me know if there is a rom that just allows you to overclock your tablet? I know how to root my tablet, I have done it before.
Thanks, Glen
It us nit necessarily the ROM that lets you overclock, it is the kernal, that being said most roms include a custon over clockable kernel
The Overcome HC3.2 ROM, the ICS CM9port, and the AOSP Galaxian Soup ROMs all support ovetclocking and very nicely eliminate most of the lag.
It's not just that it's clocked faster; it's an entirely different processor. The problems go deeper then clock speed, such as (as you indicated) the different version of Honeycomb.
Overclocking might help with some lag; I haven't rooted my tablet at all so I haven't messed with overclocking. It likely won't be the be all/end all fix though.
ninfanlink said:
Hey guys,
Last week I used my friends 7.0 plus and loved how fast the tablet was, the quality was great the only issue I had was the size. I wanted something a little bigger.
So I went out and got the 8.9, to my surprise it lags way more than the 7.0 plus. After reading online it’s because the CPU is running at 1ghz and the 7.0 plus is running at 1.2ghz. Also the 7.0 plus is running 3.2 OS.
So I want to overclock my tablet but I don’t know anything about roms and what rom is good and what isn’t. I would like to install a custom rom that just allows me to overclock my tablet not change anything else.
Can any let me know if there is a rom that just allows you to overclock your tablet? I know how to root my tablet, I have done it before.
Thanks, Glen
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Different size of screen..an issue too.. Not only processors..
Hey there people!
Ok so the HTC Desire C seems to be a non supported device on here there are currently no ROMs for it and even the root/ulbl is not fully tested so devs with HTC experience get here to give this device what it needs!
Anyways the device runs on a 600Mhz processor running a long side 512MB RAM supporting Android 4.0.3 ICS, due to the specs the device can be a little sluggish under high operation situations so here are a few basic tips to help.
Install Zeam Launcher.
A small size launcher that is lightning fast, only thing that rivals it is the FTL launcher and looks like sense 4 launcher.
The launcher size is 338k (Google play size) very fast and minimal looking.
FTL follows the trend but size varies on ur device
Bit-Defender.
This is a tiny anti-malware suite, for full features needs payment, but for free it gives nice protection. and i use the desktop versions so yeah
if you prefer the finding ur device more so i suggest lookout due to free scream/locate and no it does not drain battery life!
Juice Defender.
I listen to music a lot when am out, my old X10 did well with an extended battery and Juice defender installed, so i say add it into the desire C, it actually saves battery and manages ur mobile data/wifi automatically.
(After root)
Install Titanium Backup.
This app is a god send, it can remove files embedded into the /system/app folder, so u can remove crappy HTC Sense launcher, also remove other bloatware and rubbish do be careful tho Rooting does void warrenty and removing apps can stop the device from working (WE NEED A RECOVERY!!)
Sysctl Config
I use this on my X10 for gaming, it provides a bit of a boost to performance not much but its there
(you must have busy box to run this, recommended to have latest superuser installed from Google play)
a scripting program - edit scripts (Advanced users/devs only)
This is what makes roms so dam fast over stock, devs have edited the files to increase VM Heaps and other stuff, if your a noob or no scripting skills dont attempt it wait for a pro to do it for you!
Try overclocking. (Advanced Users/Devs)
I dont know much about HTC kernels im a DoomKernel user for the X10, but he got the kernel another 200Mhz on a single core!
Idk if HTC have left any overclock on the kernel and i dont wanna damage my phone testing it as i got it 3 days ago, so feedback please!
Overclocking is one of the most obvious choices for speed, at the cost of battery life you can put the CPU past its standard levels, speeding up your device.
Personally i dont overclock past what doom set my kernel, if you wish to do it personally use NoFrills CPU (Free) or SetCPU (Paid) both need Root
Ok rant over! most of this stuff may not be yet possible on the device but i hope it does, its a nice little device cheap and cheerful! devs come and unlock the potential it has forget One X n S3 they got there stuff
Disclaimer
I Will Not Be Held Responsible For Any Damages In Any Area Or Spec Of Your Device(s) You Do It Your Fault No One Elses! Nor Mine Or The Devs.
Apps shown in description....
Zeam Launcher (Free) - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.zeam&feature=nav_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDNd
FTL Launcher Lite (Free) - https://play.google.com/store/apps/...xLDEsImNvbS5sb3d2ZWxkLmZ0bGxhdW5jaGVybGl0ZSJd
Bit Defender Android - https://play.google.com/store/apps/...sMSwxLDEsImNvbS5iaXRkZWZlbmRlci5zZWN1cml0eSJd
Lookout Security - https://play.google.com/store/apps/...result#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5sb29rb3V0Il0.
Juice Defender Free - https://play.google.com/store/apps/...xLDEsImNvbS5sYXRlZHJvaWQuanVpY2VkZWZlbmRlciJd
Titanium Backup (Free) - https://play.google.com/store/apps/...DEsImNvbS5rZXJhbWlkYXMuVGl0YW5pdW1CYWNrdXAiXQ..
Sysctl Config (Free) - https://play.google.com/store/apps/...sMSwxLDEsImNvbS5qcnVtbXkuc3lzY3RsLmNvbmZpZyJd
Super User (Free) - https://play.google.com/store/apps/...wsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5ub3NodWZvdS5hbmRyb2lkLnN1Il0.
NoFrills CPU (Free) - https://play.google.com/store/apps/...DEsIml0LnNpbmVvLmFuZHJvaWQubm9GcmlsbHNDUFUiXQ..
SetCPU - https://play.google.com/store/apps/...wsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5taHVhbmcub3ZlcmNsb2NraW5nIl0.
BusyBox Installer (Free, May not work on device can cause root loss RESEARCH BEFORE TRYING) - https://play.google.com/store/apps/...DEsImNvbS5qcnVtbXkuYnVzeWJveC5pbnN0YWxsZXIiXQ..
Have fun people laters.
Only helpful feedback and friendly comments no fighting on here!!
using the zeam laucher good , no lag jellybean laucher do you have ?
Speed
Hi,
I'm a new user and I have a question. I just rooted my phone, and flashed up Nameless rom. But it works with 600mHz. Can I involve the speed?
Overclock or something?
szilike93 said:
Hi,
I'm a new user and I have a question. I just rooted my phone, and flashed up Nameless rom. But it works with 600mHz. Can I involve the speed?
Overclock or something?
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Nope Nope Nope ^__^, basically its no good as the Kernal is stock and doesnt permit overclocking.
You should really rename this thread... it has nothing to do with optimizing or speeding up the OS. It just tells you about a bunch of software you could search for on the market, and then says, "oh ya, and overclock."
Performance problem??
Peep my signature..
Deactivating apps which are not really needed also increases the speed, because more resources are available.
I tried that in combination with the overclock kernel and that sped up my phone especially when using apps which needs much ram and cpu-performance.
Duke_Suppenhuhn said:
Deactivating apps which are not really needed also increases the speed, because more resources are available.
I tried that in combination with the overclock kernel and that sped up my phone especially when using apps which needs much ram and cpu-performance.
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Removing the sense interface is also speeding up the performance.
Gamephantom said:
Removing the sense interface is also speeding up the performance.
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no ****, sherlock
And back we are
Lets get a few things updated shall we
_Ayhan_
Apex is a good launcher, bit bigger than Zeam but it works perfectly for me, no lag at all and supports themes!
szilike93 Nameless new ROMs have OC ability, with the correct kernels, as said in my 1st post, i would OC, i used OC on a different ROM and played games, didnt last long under bloon tower defense 5. ive just downloaded a new kernel pack from the dev of Nameless, selected a slight OC, but i shall be still setting max OC to 600Mhz but i will be changing the Governor to InteractiveX and I/O to deadline (Going on what worked best for DoomKernel)
Gamephantom
Yeah removing sense UI would be better off for the phone, but as far even the new "De-Sense" options still have baseline sense installed, until Cyanogenmod works fully we have to stick with it, although the devs have made the device smoother with sense, Cyanogenmod should take the crown
So any updates from me?
Well OC kernels are out and working can try them if you wish, New roms are around which are fast, no new "Super" apps to speak of, just a shame its only a single core 600Mhz, there are some apps im testing and shall report back, such as the Jellybean drivers, see if that wacks my battery using GPU rendering, hopefully not, all testing on Nameless 7.2 with 722Mhz Kernel but will be UC to 600Mhz. Hopefully battery life dont suck, Slimsense still best battery life personally for me
Later Guys!
You want to get a good battery life, just push a stock systemui that don't have battery percentage numbers. Images in stock only have 4-5 batt images, while in percentage it gives accurate %1 reading 100 batt images.
Sent from my HTC Desire C
szilike93 said:
Hi,
I'm a new user and I have a question. I just rooted my phone, and flashed up Nameless rom. But it works with 600mHz. Can I involve the speed?
Overclock or something?
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You should do as Xdroidie626 sais.
Download Nameles's ROM and enclosed within You will find 3 kernels. Choose from 2 that allow You to OC Your CPU and flash it.
I'm using the 806MHz Kernel and apart from the obvious,battery life dicreased,can't complain about it at all.
HTC should have released Desire C 806MHz capable in the first place.
Lucky noobs we are to have XDA website and Devs themselves to provide us with tools of salvation from "stock" misery
Btw... Little off-top...
@Einstein.frat
As I mentioned above I'm using Nameless ROM and hereby wish to thank Einstein.frat for his efforts and subsequent effects.
Since I'm a freshman here and my posts are still counted using only one hand I can't avail of the "Thanks" button yet but I will as soon as possible. It may take me a while but I don't post just to bump the counter...
Hello,
Im ćhanging rom every day, bećuase:
-I stay in ĆM10 max 2-3 days, why? This rom looks really good (i mean design), but performanće is bad as hell, and this is reason why i ćhange always this rom, but im baćk only for design,
-GB is good but i don;t know whićh one is better for me
-Froyo i was using 1-3 months, bećuase have the best performance and life battery, and proćentage better (like in 4.1.2 semć overlay)
And there is my problem, how many apps now don;t have support for 2.2? Bećuase i heared "foryo is the best one for our X8, but many apps don't working, bećause froyo is too old and don;t have support for many apps" This is truth or not?
Important for me is multitask and good design.
Thanks for help!
Of course: more and more apps not running on froyo.
Use any gingerbread rom, this will give the best performance/compatibility ratio. The most app run on API level 10 (2.3.3+) and all gb rom give significant better multitasking performance than any "supersmooth" jb rom.
Anyway the choice is your...
Froyo: best performance/multitask, limited app compatibility
Gingerbread: good performance/multitask, good app compatibility (more than 90% of apps running)
ICS/JB: average performance, critical multitask, best app compatibility
pilu1978 said:
Of course: more and more apps not running on froyo.
Use any gingerbread rom, this will give the best performance/compatibility ratio. The most app run on API level 10 (2.3.3+) and all gb rom give significant better multitasking performance than any "supersmooth" jb rom.
Anyway the choice is your...
Froyo: best performance/multitask, limited app compatibility
Gingerbread: good performance/multitask, good app compatibility (more than 90% of apps running)
ICS/JB: average performance, critical multitask, best app compatibility
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Okey i only want to know about apps, so i stay in GB, Thanks for info Pilu!
But now whićh GB ćhoiće. xD
Btw Thanks!
You can choice any gb rom, the performance differences is minimal.
I can suggest only: use clean cm7 rom (minicm7 or gdx) and make your own design with themes/apps.
Try some tweaking method, but better if you NOT combine too much tweaks because mixing of different tweaks can make conflicts and can decrease the performance...
The design is relative, some member like the small, fat, dark haired women, some like the tall, slim, blondes...
(personally I hate the holo design, my wife's xperia ray have much better user interface with gb than my Z with jb...)
I have the same dilema, I've been away from these forums for a long time now since I decided to stop "ROM swapping" and stuck with GingerDX, but even GingerDX is slow when trying to do a simple google search, or any real-world scenario usage.
Actually after a (not very long) google search, I arrived to the conslusion that the vast majority of apps still require Android 2.2 MINIMUM, and those that say otherwise usually require Android 4.0 or higher anyway.
FroyoPro is only not the first option because it's very outdated in terms of stock apps and even libs/kernel support. if Anyone was to update it and make it work on nAa-05 I bet it would be the best ROM on our devices.
GB rom
i think XPeria soul engine is quite good and stable rom .. good for multi tasking and bug free..
design is also good..
and very very light wieght
using with nAa kernel 14 is a good combination.
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_JoaoCampos said:
I have the same dilema, I've been away from these forums for a long time now since I decided to stop "ROM swapping" and stuck with GingerDX, but even GingerDX is slow when trying to do a simple google search, or any real-world scenario usage.
Actually after a (not very long) google search, I arrived to the conslusion that the vast majority of apps still require Android 2.2 MINIMUM, and those that say otherwise usually require Android 4.0 or higher anyway.
FroyoPro is only not the first option because it's very outdated in terms of stock apps and even libs/kernel support. if Anyone was to update it and make it work on nAa-05 I bet it would be the best ROM on our devices.
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FroyoPro should update, but anyone haven't permision for thath, unfortunately. Best experinće for me is FroyoPro (good auto brig, life battery, and simple, but a lot of my apps have suppor 2.3+), If 4.1.2 rund in our deviće like GB, my dilema will gone, but unfortunately for me 4+ is only for desing not for daily using
chrissykess said:
FroyoPro should update, but anyone haven't permision for thath, unfortunately. Best experinće for me is FroyoPro (good auto brig, life battery, and simple, but a lot of my apps have suppor 2.3+), If 4.1.2 rund in our deviće like GB, my dilema will gone, but unfortunately for me 4+ is only for desing not for daily using
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You're free to build up on FroyoPro as long as you make it clear that it's an update on FroyoPro. The latest FroyoPro available is from another developer other than the original already.
_JoaoCampos said:
You're free to build up on FroyoPro as long as you make it clear that it's an update on FroyoPro. The latest FroyoPro available is from another developer other than the original already.
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Im using froyo Pro from lrakkarl
chrissykess said:
Im using froyo Pro from lrakkarl
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Yeah, he's not the original dev!
Hi. I sold my lovely lenovo a820 and have i9000 until i will buy something better. But this phone lags and i can't use it for normal things like internet etc(only music works perfect). I tried some kit kat roms and cm10, but this isn't what i need. Maybe i should stay on stock 2.3 or cm7?
p.s. Yes, I set limit for 1 execute in background, but phone's still working slowly.
Can You help me? Maybe 1ghz and 512 ram isn't enough for daily usage? My ex lenovo (4x1.2ghz and1gb ram was working like rocket in comparsion with samsung).
I'm using my i9000 as my daily phone to be upgraded soon, and to be honest I wouldn't suggest any KitKat ROM. I've tried many of them, I was somewhat happy with OmniROM and before that older versions of CyanAOSP (I think it was v.2.something) but there are lags that can be quite frankly even excruciating (incaming call lag for example).
For the moment I'm happy with an ICS ROM: Mackay 2014 1.7. I've yet to test its full potential but so far the UI is far more responsive than any KK ROM I've used.