Please help with decision - XPERIA X8 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello,
Im ćhanging rom every day, bećuase:
-I stay in ĆM10 max 2-3 days, why? This rom looks really good (i mean design), but performanće is bad as hell, and this is reason why i ćhange always this rom, but im baćk only for design,
-GB is good but i don;t know whićh one is better for me
-Froyo i was using 1-3 months, bećuase have the best performance and life battery, and proćentage better (like in 4.1.2 semć overlay)
And there is my problem, how many apps now don;t have support for 2.2? Bećuase i heared "foryo is the best one for our X8, but many apps don't working, bećause froyo is too old and don;t have support for many apps" This is truth or not?
Important for me is multitask and good design.
Thanks for help!

Of course: more and more apps not running on froyo.
Use any gingerbread rom, this will give the best performance/compatibility ratio. The most app run on API level 10 (2.3.3+) and all gb rom give significant better multitasking performance than any "supersmooth" jb rom.
Anyway the choice is your...
Froyo: best performance/multitask, limited app compatibility
Gingerbread: good performance/multitask, good app compatibility (more than 90% of apps running)
ICS/JB: average performance, critical multitask, best app compatibility

pilu1978 said:
Of course: more and more apps not running on froyo.
Use any gingerbread rom, this will give the best performance/compatibility ratio. The most app run on API level 10 (2.3.3+) and all gb rom give significant better multitasking performance than any "supersmooth" jb rom.
Anyway the choice is your...
Froyo: best performance/multitask, limited app compatibility
Gingerbread: good performance/multitask, good app compatibility (more than 90% of apps running)
ICS/JB: average performance, critical multitask, best app compatibility
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Okey i only want to know about apps, so i stay in GB, Thanks for info Pilu!
But now whićh GB ćhoiće. xD
Btw Thanks!

You can choice any gb rom, the performance differences is minimal.
I can suggest only: use clean cm7 rom (minicm7 or gdx) and make your own design with themes/apps.
Try some tweaking method, but better if you NOT combine too much tweaks because mixing of different tweaks can make conflicts and can decrease the performance...
The design is relative, some member like the small, fat, dark haired women, some like the tall, slim, blondes...
(personally I hate the holo design, my wife's xperia ray have much better user interface with gb than my Z with jb...)

I have the same dilema, I've been away from these forums for a long time now since I decided to stop "ROM swapping" and stuck with GingerDX, but even GingerDX is slow when trying to do a simple google search, or any real-world scenario usage.
Actually after a (not very long) google search, I arrived to the conslusion that the vast majority of apps still require Android 2.2 MINIMUM, and those that say otherwise usually require Android 4.0 or higher anyway.
FroyoPro is only not the first option because it's very outdated in terms of stock apps and even libs/kernel support. if Anyone was to update it and make it work on nAa-05 I bet it would be the best ROM on our devices.

GB rom
i think XPeria soul engine is quite good and stable rom .. good for multi tasking and bug free..
design is also good..
and very very light wieght
using with nAa kernel 14 is a good combination.
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_JoaoCampos said:
I have the same dilema, I've been away from these forums for a long time now since I decided to stop "ROM swapping" and stuck with GingerDX, but even GingerDX is slow when trying to do a simple google search, or any real-world scenario usage.
Actually after a (not very long) google search, I arrived to the conslusion that the vast majority of apps still require Android 2.2 MINIMUM, and those that say otherwise usually require Android 4.0 or higher anyway.
FroyoPro is only not the first option because it's very outdated in terms of stock apps and even libs/kernel support. if Anyone was to update it and make it work on nAa-05 I bet it would be the best ROM on our devices.
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FroyoPro should update, but anyone haven't permision for thath, unfortunately. Best experinće for me is FroyoPro (good auto brig, life battery, and simple, but a lot of my apps have suppor 2.3+), If 4.1.2 rund in our deviće like GB, my dilema will gone, but unfortunately for me 4+ is only for desing not for daily using

chrissykess said:
FroyoPro should update, but anyone haven't permision for thath, unfortunately. Best experinće for me is FroyoPro (good auto brig, life battery, and simple, but a lot of my apps have suppor 2.3+), If 4.1.2 rund in our deviće like GB, my dilema will gone, but unfortunately for me 4+ is only for desing not for daily using
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You're free to build up on FroyoPro as long as you make it clear that it's an update on FroyoPro. The latest FroyoPro available is from another developer other than the original already.

_JoaoCampos said:
You're free to build up on FroyoPro as long as you make it clear that it's an update on FroyoPro. The latest FroyoPro available is from another developer other than the original already.
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Im using froyo Pro from lrakkarl

chrissykess said:
Im using froyo Pro from lrakkarl
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Yeah, he's not the original dev!

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[Q] Which Milestone ROM is the best?

According to the question I ask, I think I would like to standardize the "marking scheme"
1. Overall Performance
2. Boot up time
3. Battery Performance
4. Buggy?
5. Compatibility?
6. Internal memory after initial setup?
Thanks everybody! Just doing the research which one is the best.
I have used MIUI, CTM, etc... Want to get more information before I changed to another ROM.
I've only used Miui as I've never had any reason to change.
Overall Performance:
Seeing as it's BETA software, the performance all round is much, much better then stock.
Boot up time:
This isn't really an issue as I never turn my phone off. Unlikely computers phones are meant to be on 24/7 so boot time is moot in my eyes.
Battery Performance:
With every new kernel and update, I find my battery lasting that little bit longer. I can get around 1.5-2 days out of mine (as Miui has the option to turn off things / underclock).
Buggy:
For BETA software things break from time to time, although the things that do break aren't that important (Tether and the Theme Downloader mainly).
Compatibility:
What do you mean?
Internal memory after initial setup?
With a fair few apps I have ~30MB left.
cronos or iceandfire are the two best roms hands down...
Stock 2.2 is the best now imho
froyomod 2.4
I am using APAC (asia-pacific leak) since Friday, and it is absolutely brilliant - near perfect, I´d say.
By now you can also apply some themes, and the battery life is great!
The only problem I am personally having is that the app "LEDs Hack" doesn´t seem to be working at all anymore and I haven´t found anything else to turn of the Softkey-Backlights while in Dock Mode... once that is solved, I´d have the perfect ROM
Project elite
Used cyanogen for about 6 mo but alot of fc.went to sorcery for about a month, it looked great and performance was good but my cell reception was in the toilet.Now project elite since christmas and I have fallen in love with my droid again.they have the kernall clocked at 1100 ewhich will run warm after 1/2 hour so i clock to 900.status cool and stable plus you can eryn your browser as an iphone (which comes in handy for netflix)..keep that droid around it still keeps up or beats your friends phone....ps screw motorola for wanting to lock their bootloader.
MIUI is okay for me
CyanogenMod 6.1.2 for Milestone is my choice, tone of customise fine tune your milestone and good support fast bugs fixed won my heart
w3dig said:
MIUI is okay for me
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It also works for me. I installed this "app2ext" and worked amazing. 6 HD games, 5 Normal Games, 30 Apps+ And i still have 80mb free !
The only thing i don't like is the fact that MIUI launcher doesn't have scrollable widgets compatibility .
arttree said:
CyanogenMod 6.1.2 for Milestone is my choice, tone of customise fine tune your milestone and good support fast bugs fixed won my heart
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+ 1 for CM6...plus kabaldan has done so much for us milestone users and he still helps out.
Sent from my Milestone using Tapatalk
CyanogenMod 6.1.2 is my choice, fast fixes for bugs and like MIUI, after installing a ton of apps (over 30 as well) I stil have over 80mb free.
I've been on stock Eclair most of the time and it of course bugged me a lot. Tried Froyomod 2.2 and had the fast battery drain issue, now I'm using FroyoMod 2.4 and seems to be *much* better now.
I'd like to see the stock 2.2, but...
The bset ROM I've yet tried has to be the APAC leak, the latest nandroid. Its incredible. Kicks Nexus ass, bigtyme !
1. Overall Performance : Incredible. There is no other way to explain this.
2. Boot up time : NOt much of an issue, but if ur still interested, its almost equivalent to other roms available.
3. Battery Performance : The best Ive yet seen after trying every mod available, excet shadowmod. It gives me 2.5 days till discharge. For the milestone, thats a colossal feat.
4. Buggy : Not at all. No bugs found yet. Been 2 weeks.
5. Compatibility : Everything runs. Without applying external updates, or software hacks.
6. Internal memory after initial setup : 158MB. But most of my apps are on SD, So i Still get about 102 MB free on my phone.
FroyoMod 2.4c & G.O.T 2.2.1
_ MIUI is good for me now!
Now i'm using Froyomod 2.4, but a brazilian guy Edgar Castro launched new shadowmod version based on gingerbread.
I will install today.
I would also say CM6 is the best in terms of performance. Just to add on (NOT MEANING TO TAKE OVER THIS THREAD, just a suggestion), could we add how much mb of ram is available after boot? (E.g you could use advanced task killer, or memory booster just to see how much is available (BEFORE KILLING APPS) )
Hmph. I guess I'll have to do a major cleanup
38MB after boot.

[Q] Current Fastest ROM for Milestone???

Hi Guys,
I am currently running the CM7 ROM (7.1.0.6 Milestone-KANG) on my Milestone. While the ROM is much better and faster than the stock ROM it still gets slow and laggy sometimes (Overclocked to 800 MHz).
Please let me know which the are fastest Gingerbread based ROMs out there and is there anything else that can be done to increase the responsiveness of the device.
Cheers...
Chander
Try HO!NO 7.1.1. It is build from kabaldan source, Android 2.3.7 and I love it
Zatapatalkowane z MotoStone'a
Ultimate Milestone (formerly Ice and Fire) is the fastest ROM i've used.
i used ultimate mod (ice and fire) but switchted to HO!NO! then.
i had trouble with minfree settings (check thread) that it killed my apps...
HO!NO! is even faster, more beautiful (i love this ICS design and transitions) and reliable (not killing any app). i only had to adjust permissions in OR once.
I must disagree with you guys. Ho!NO! ROM is very RAM consuming.
OK it looks nice but the phone is slow and lags a lot.
Stock froyo ROM with setcpu works faster, you must admit it.
I flashed my milestone with HO!NO! after reading this thread but i`m dissapointed.
I think I`ll give a try with a vanilla cyanogenmod
@up, apply Supercharger from zeppelinrox with best settings that fits for you and then try
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vangug said:
I must disagree with you guys. Ho!NO! ROM is very RAM consuming.
OK it looks nice but the phone is slow and lags a lot.
Stock froyo ROM with setcpu works faster, you must admit it.
I flashed my milestone with HO!NO! after reading this thread but i`m dissapointed.
I think I`ll give a try with a vanilla cyanogenmod
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where i find vanilla cm rom to milestone?
Ultimate Milestone (formerly Ice and Fire), is my best. Only complaint was camera (as with any CM7 based), then downloaded MIUI Camera and I'm done!
If you are open to something else.... the FASTEST rom out there is by far TelusLite (eclair and no longer developed) but if you want brute speed... that is the way to go.
Enviado desde mi Milestone usando Tapatalk
i used CM6 from milaq 6.3.x - 6.3.4).... very fast and "low" RAM usage
then switched to CM7... it works well too but i feel the RAM usage when opening apps like MAPS to navigate or want to play some games. navigation browser and apps may close without warning...
then tried again milaqs CM6 (6.3.6)... it was ok but RAM usage is not good as the versions before...
i recommend milaqs 6.3.3 or 6.3.4... these two are ok, fast and you can use the most apps withouts errors.... and with supercharger you can get 60-70MB free RAM
IMHO, HO!NO! is the fastest ROM with moderate amount of RAM. I've tried all other ROMs like CM7, Ultimate Milestone, CM6, Cronos, MIUI... but they couldn't meet my need as HO!NO! does.
Ok it was like 2.3 works pretty smooth on the outside but gets really lag when you actully use any apps. 2.2 roms are much better but there's always a hard choice on which 2.2 is better since now most developers are focusing on 2.3
KaitouKimura said:
IMHO, HO!NO! is the fastest ROM with moderate amount of RAM. I've tried all other ROMs like CM7, Ultimate Milestone, CM6, Cronos, MIUI... but they couldn't meet my need as HO!NO! does.
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This is true! i try all and HO!NO! is the best!
Regards,
I am currently using CM9 RC0 (built from source myself) and must say, despite the very early status I like it even better than the excellent CM7.1! It still has a few issues (e.g. keyboard backlight and camera don't work, though I think there is a fix for the former), however, overall, it feels much smoother to me. As always with our old Milestones, the biggest issue is memory... When limiting background apps to two, I have very little issues with that anymore.
Keep in mind though that this ROM is not intended for daily use, so you need to be as crazy as I am (remember, no camera)
can i use the HO!NO! in my Motorola Droid A855?
i recommend HO!NO! for milestone.. it works smooth and fast.. of course it comes with a great battery life
moriel73 said:
can i use the HO!NO! in my Motorola Droid A855?
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Not unless he's made a Droid version as well. Milestone and Droid ROMS are not interchangeable.
Thanks Guys!!!
Thanks a lot guys for your suggestions. i tried most of the ROMs but found Ho! No! to be the fastest. Even at 600 MHz the ROM is quite fast and smooth.
In fact I have been having a small problem with Ho! No! ROM. I am in India on AIRTEL 3G. Whenever I switch to 2G Network I tend to loose signal and after sometime the signal gets completely lost. If I remain in 3G only everything works fine but battery usage is obviously more. Moreover, recently after HO! NO! CM 7.1.3 I am not getting 3G speeds while internet browsing while being on 3G network.
Do I need to change my radio according to India (where to find the same and how to do it?)
I didn't have any such problems on CM 7!!!

Should i move to cm9 already ?

Hey guys , i really like the CM9 ICS , but do you guys think it is time to move ???
CM7.1 is just a battery HOG for me , Sammy build roms are laggy...
every thing has its disadvantages and advantages
so what's the Advantages / disadvantages of cm9 ?
enigma575 said:
Hey guys , i really like the CM9 ICS , but do you guys think it is time to move ???
CM7.1 is just a battery HOG for me , Sammy build roms are laggy...
every thing has its disadvantages and advantages
so what's the Advantages / disadvantages of cm9 ?
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do you think or know if CM9 will solve the battery hogging issue?
Not sure, but surley if it has battery hog issues , then iam not going to CM9 , waiting for an expert reply though
It's definitely better then CM7, and probably better then many other roms out there. At least try it out.
Cammighty said:
It's definitely better then CM7, and probably better then many other roms out there. At least try it out.
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Thanks for your opinion ! , but can you please give me more details ???
sound ? , BATTERY LIFE ! , colors , gaming performance , LAGGGGG ??
these are my priorities
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Try tOnecosmic's ICS Port!!!
It is amazing, good battery life, very smooth, works great as my daily Rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1398223
I DON'T recommend going to ICS just yet (unless you want to beta test), builds are still too early, they are unreliable for everyday use and it'll be a while until we get a stable and good performing rom, CM7 is much better right now, but it may change in the future though.
ICS launcher FC a lot, gallery app and browser are laggy, and if you use live wallpapers everything slows down a lot, also there are many app incompatibilities now. I tried to like ICS but it's still in alpha stages (don't believe all those RC1 or beta labels, it's really not ready)
CM7 is great but yes, it's a battery hog. You could use a samsung rom (a custom ODEXED rom or stock are fine) and a custom kernel, I use semaphore with thunderbolt and it's very good performing, it can't touch CM7 in RAM management (isn't as good in multitasking), but videos, games play nice and samsung has a few good apps (it's dialer has smart dialing and its a looker, it can play almost all videos even h264 720p 60fps, music app uses very little battery since it's HW accelerated and its browser is as smooth as the iphone's, it can't be touched by CM7's), and you can delete all other samsung bloatware.
parhelion69 said:
I DON'T recommend going to ICS just yet (unless you want to beta test), builds are still too early, they are unreliable for everyday use and it'll be a while until we get a stable and good performing rom, CM7 is much better right now, but it may change in the future though.
ICS launcher FC a lot, gallery app and browser are laggy, and if you use live wallpapers everything slows down a lot, also there are many app incompatibilities now. I tried to like ICS but it's still in alpha stages (don't believe all those RC1 or beta labels, it's really not ready)
CM7 is great but yes, it's a battery hog. You could use a samsung rom (a custom ODEXED rom or stock are fine) and a custom kernel, I use semaphore with thunderbolt and it's very good performing, it can't touch CM7 in RAM management (isn't as good in multitasking), but videos, games play nice and samsung has a few good apps (it's dialer has smart dialing and its a looker, it can play almost all videos even h264 720p 60fps, music app uses very little battery since it's HW accelerated and its browser is as smooth as the iphone's, it can't be touched by CM7's), and you can delete all other samsung bloatware.
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Thanks for your reply !! , i used to be on almost every new ROM lately but i couldn't handle the Lag even with using Thunderbolt and stuff , it was veryyy laggy and not responsive , iam now on CM7.1 and i have to say it is waaaaaay faster than the sammy build roms , too bad i get some force closes often and i HATE how low the music is , the music player sucks alot of battery though
my best Samsung experience was on Hybrid roms , stable , fast.
btw not all CM9 builds are bad ! you can try search for the AndroidSoul's review of cm9 , it looks veryyyyy smooth !
any recommendations for now ?
KingBeike said:
Try tOnecosmic's ICS Port!!!
It is amazing, good battery life, very smooth, works great as my daily Rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1398223
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Thanks so much man ! i have seen some videos for the onecosmic's port and it is veryy fast indeed !!!!
i wonder how long do you last with heavy usage / medium usage ?
what about standby ?? , iam so going to try this soon !
With heavy usage I can use my Phone one day, but this was the same with Gingerbread.
When I only have low or medium usage, the battery lasts 1 1/2 - 2 Days, very good for a non final release. But most i charge my phone every night.
enigma575 said:
Thanks for your reply !! , i used to be on almost every new ROM lately but i couldn't handle the Lag even with using Thunderbolt and stuff , it was veryyy laggy and not responsive , iam now on CM7.1 and i have to say it is waaaaaay faster than the sammy build roms , too bad i get some force closes often and i HATE how low the music is , the music player sucks alot of battery though
my best Samsung experience was on Hybrid roms , stable , fast.
btw not all CM9 builds are bad ! you can try search for the AndroidSoul's review of cm9 , it looks veryyyyy smooth !
any recommendations for now ?
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I didn't watch any videos, I flashed both versions myself and ICS isn't ready yet, got too many FC, lags heavily on some occasions and isn't as fast as CM7 (we're talking about the version for the i9000 right? )
It'll reach great performance levels in the future I'm sure, but saying that it's perfect for daily use or better than CM7 is just going a little too far.
And have you tried a high LMK for sammy roms? Like 80MB or higher, you won't be able to multitask much, but performance will be very good for games or heavy apps
parhelion69 said:
I didn't watch any videos, I flashed both versions myself and ICS isn't ready yet, got too many FC, lags heavily on some occasions and isn't as fast as CM7 (we're talking about the version for the i9000 right? )
It'll reach great performance levels in the future I'm sure, but saying that it's perfect for daily use or better than CM7 is just going a little too far.
And have you tried a high LMK for sammy roms? Like 80MB or higher, you won't be able to multitask much, but performance will be very good for games or heavy apps
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I guess iam going to skip flashing CM9 then ! , iam an average-heavy user
- well , i have never tried messing up with memory but i assure you i have had troubles multitasking , and very very very bad response time on almost any sammy rom , even with overclocking i don't really feel any difference
all what i used to flash on sammy roms was base rom + custom rom on top of it + some tweaks like thunderbolt script , overclocking wasn't even noticed
i also used to tweak the colors

[Q] Why Upgrade to ICS... debate..

Hi Folks, I'm currently running JW4 on Semaphore 2.7.4bmfr, bloatware removed, custom theme, UOT icons and effects, various hacks. This Rom is very fast (no lags), fast accurate GPS, I can multitask due to lots of free memory, everything simply works, it never, ever has SOD's or FC's. It looks good and has great battery life.
I'm been considering upgrading to ICS and have been reviewing all of the ROM's. I've discovered that all ICS Roms all seem to have many issues, and to get to this hassled state, requires lots of flashing, wipes and rewipes.
Hmmmm, my (genuine) question is, why should I upgrade to ICS? What does ICS provide over my current fast, stable, long lasting ROM?
It has to be something more than the way it looks (I mean the OS only exists to run your applications) Guess you might say, just try it and you'll see (which means you have no solid reply, it also means I have to spend hours and hours flashing one or more ICS Rom's before deciding, Damn! I need to go back to JW4 as ICS is too slow/buggy/dodgy battery etc. Hence the reason for this question.
Very good question, i've been wondering the same myself as i'm still running cm7.
Sent from my android shizzle!
You should stay on GB . To be honest, I only stay on ICS, because my titanium backups don't work on GB. But I think the difference isn't big.
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I guess it strongly depends on your favors and focus. I'm using ICS since the first days of onecosmics and teamhacksungs ICS roms. ICS has a bunch of goodies and gimmicks but nothing for that you'd say: You can't use a smartphone without it!.
You're not wrong by still using GB, definetly not!
nitrous² said:
I guess it strongly depends on your favors and focus. I'm using ICS since the first days of onecosmics and teamhacksungs ICS roms. ICS has a bunch of goodies and gimmicks but nothing for that you'd say: You can't use a smartphone without it!.
You're not wrong by still using GB, definetly not!
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totally agree.ICS can beat gingerbread in many ways
Face recognizition (i know gingerbread have this but its better on ics)
better UI speed (because of Ui now can use GPU)
and many things i cant remember now.
and about free ram..236 mb free..
now which is better?only better way of gingerbread is multitasking.and ics can beat in several ways.
sorry for my bad english.
with regards to speed, i would have to say that ICS has the edge; I have never had such a smooth experince while browsing and multitasking on GB as I do on ICS. I am currently using DK3 with Devil2 0.71 sio w/ ondemand gov w/ sampling down step @ 5.
nitrous² said:
I guess it strongly depends on your favors and focus. I'm using ICS since the first days of onecosmics and teamhacksungs ICS roms. ICS has a bunch of goodies and gimmicks but nothing for that you'd say: You can't use a smartphone without it!.
You're not wrong by still using GB, definetly not!
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I can't use a smartphone without it. Ever since I changed over to ics I can't go a day on gb, even with the bugs.
If you like my posts hit thanks
Rom: Dark knight 4
Kernel: Devil Kernel
Keep it ANDROID!!!!!!!!
What about battery life? Does the usage of gpu for ui decrease battery life? How much of a hassle is it to switch from jw5 to ics: can you use your titanium backups at least for user apps?
DocMarc73 said:
What about battery life? Does the usage of gpu for ui decrease battery life? How much of a hassle is it to switch from jw5 to ics: can you use your titanium backups at least for user apps?
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I get at least 24 hours usage with ICS. Switching isn't too much hassle, backup with titanium, do a nandroid in CWM, wipe, install ics rom, boot, restore titanium backups.
If anything goes wrong or you want to go back: flash stock JW5, flash kernel with recovery, restore nandroid.
Ics has some features that take your device to a next level.The only think that I don't like is the battery drain.
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sebxtreme said:
Ics has some features that take your device to a next level.The only think that I don't like is the battery drain.
You forgot to mention that the camera is much worst in ICS
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~UnderTaker~ said:
totally agree.ICS can beat gingerbread in many ways
Face recognizition (i know gingerbread have this but its better on ics)
better UI speed (because of Ui now can use GPU)
and many things i cant remember now.
and about free ram..236 mb free..
now which is better?only better way of gingerbread is multitasking.and ics can beat in several ways.
sorry for my bad english.
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what rom is that?? is it slim ics
yahyoh said:
what rom is that?? is it slim ics
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ICSSGS RC4.2 + Devil2 XL kernel.
Im comparing Slim ICS with Darky 10.4.2
With ICS you get better UI experiences.. Smooth and fast..
Browsing is much, much better..
Easy customizable toggles
Easy screenshot
What I dont like:
Camera sucks(less features), cant silent
Battery drains faster
1 lockscreen
Cant join contacts
When ppl call in, picture gets truncated
Default Gallery cant play my AVI files
I will try other ICS roms and decide whether to stick with ICS..
Sure you can join contacts use contapps! I find it the best to sync and join contacts.
+ it has free sms to other contapps users
Tapatalk on S2 "where's the beef"
gila2 said:
Im comparing Slim ICS with Darky 10.4.2
With ICS you get better UI experiences.. Smooth and fast..
Browsing is much, much better..
Easy customizable toggles
Easy screenshot
What I dont like:
Camera sucks(less features), cant silent
Battery drains faster
1 lockscreen
Cant join contacts
When ppl call in, picture gets truncated
Default Gallery cant play my AVI files
I will try other ICS roms and decide whether to stick with ICS..
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You don't know what you are saying.
I already used several releases of ICS (AOKP, AOSP, DK, MIUI) and the camera is great and you can silent. About drains, it happen, but depend the type of use. Why you need a different lockscreen? You can join contacts, i already done that. About contact pic, there is another method to override that, it calls HaxSync, by default google don't store high-res pic in contacts.
I'll stay on stock XXJW4.. Satisfies my needs and camera is awesome xD. And I can play several HD games that won't run on ICS
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Both have qualities and lacks... with GB and its roms come a superb battery-life, ICS lets you reach evening with a (not much) strong use, but nothing more.
I upgraded to ICS for curiosity, and the only thing i miss is ofc that feature. Wouldn't ever return to GB though: the rest is better on ICS, from UI to browsing
I could never think of going back to a GB rom...
First, with ICS, I finally have that feeling of maturity that the OS wasn't able to provide with previous release.
Second, hardware acceleration alone is worth the switch IMHO.
Third, RFS on Samsung's roms... can't stand it's performance degradation over time and lagfixes are just like Band-aid on an open fracture.
Fourth, kernel devs have pretty much all moved to developping ICS versions of their kernel leaving GB versions to lag behind.
Yes there are a few glitches here and there, but nothing that can prevent me from doing whatever I used to do on Eclair/Froyo/Gingerbread.
The biggest issue with ICS is with deep idle and that's only if you use your phone to listen to music... which is not my case. But then again, if you take some time to read carefully, it is possible to make work quite easilly.
As for the camera thing... you need to compare apples to apples!
As far as I can tell, the camera app used in each and every ICS builds out there is the AOSP camera whereas the camera app in Eclair/Froyo/Gingerbread roms is the one developped by Samsung... not the AOSP one.
Finally, with respect to battery life, i'm using team ICSSGS RC4.2 with Semaphore 1.0.0s kernel and, really, I can't really see any difference. I get the usual 24-30h of battery life I always had before.
There is a lot of truth in many of the posts for and against GB/ICS. I was extremely happy with Darky's ROM, but after seeing the amount of devs playing with ICS I finally took the plunge. ICS I have to say has not been smooth. Many things work well as has been mentioned already e.g. smooth UI etc. But for me few of the many ICS variants work 100% compared to the stabilty of DRom 10.4.2 or JW4 with Semaphore.
My vote for the best ICS variants are Slim ICS as it is stripped down and works and EXTRAOrdinary ICS which is an AOSP. However even with these, the battery life is not as good I have found with GB. Also using a bluetooth car receiver somehow keeps on FC ICS.
I believe the Semaphore Kernel is still the best although I am now trying Icy Glitch.
Watch this space........

Gl note core kernel vs speedmod ??? Pro's and con's??

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Go to Android Development Section and you will find your answer hopefully..
even I would like to know. seems both are very good.
if noone answers do a comparison and include battery life, performance etc.
Speedmod is original
hl note core is adapted speedmod so use same versions of speedmod when doing so
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I've used both, and prefer glnotecore (have beenn off speedmod about 3 wks). On my note, it is smoother, more stable, and faster. I also get great batt life for this level of performance. Of course, we're finding that there are some fairly significant variances note-to-note, so you really need to test both on your phone to know what works best for you, but I can attest to notecore's overall performance. Fwiw, I'm using same dev's latest rom (cleannote) along with latest kernel (6.1, which is not speedmod-based). If you're using a rom with lots of scripts and tweaks, then notecore isn't for you as it is optimized without such items (read thread to learn more about why). It may also not be for you if you're looking for lots of mods... dev is focused on performance and stability without trendy bells and whistles. Hope this is helpful to you.
Think of them like this:
SpeedMod = original Samsung Kernel but "safe"
NOTECORE = customized Samsung Kernel and "safe"
If you're going to use the Stock TouchWizz ROM with minimal changes, go for SpeedMod, it should be more stable.
If you want to customize your NOTE with a TouchWizz-based ROM, go for Notecore, you can underclock the min frequency (save battery), then overclock max freq (faster), then undervolt it slightly (save even more battery). Then use a more effecient governor like InteractiveX or Ondemand (save battery without losing performance). Then you can overclock the gpu, and get smooth performance with the ChainFire3D plugin.
Then again, if you really want ultimate customization... you'll need AOSP ROM + Kernel.
Examples:
A) SpeedMod K3-9 + (Samsung) LRG ROM = Samsung Experience
B) NOTECORE + m3dd0g's LiquidSmooth v3.0 = Custom Experience
C) ANiKernel + AOKP build 41 (milestone 6) = Deep Custom Experience
I'd say it depends on how you use your device,
If your not addicted to flashing & you want a stable smooth phone with minimum issues, use SpeedMod
However, if you like to tinker & don't mind a few bugs go with notecore.
At the moment notecore is hit & miss, a new version (sometimes 2) everyday tells you its not there YET.
I started with v1 through to v5, whilst at its best notecore is the fastest kernel for our note, for me there was always the occasional freeze that didn't happen with SpeedMod or funky, or even with earlier versions of the same kernel.
PS. This is not a criticism of the dev, I donated to him for his work on the kernel & a few years ago for his superb windows mobile (cleanex) roms
I feel the need to mention this to avoid any potential flame wars igniting as some folks get a little 'Apple' when you speak objectively.
Chances are notecore will get there, but for me right now, SpeedMod whilst lacking the outright speed of NC, its just as smooth but more reliable.
As always ymmv.
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I'd say it depends on how you use your device,
If your not addicted to flashing & you want a stable smooth phone with minimum issues, use SpeedMod
However, if you like to tinker & don't mind a few bugs go with notecore.
At the moment notecore is hit & miss, a new version (sometimes 2) everyday tells you its not there YET.
I started with v1 through to v5, whilst at its best notecore is the fastest kernel for our note, for me there was always the occasional freeze that didn't happen with SpeedMod or funky, or even with earlier versions of the same kernel.
PS. This is not a criticism of the dev, I donated to him for his work on the kernel & a few years ago for his superb windows mobile (cleanex) roms
I feel the need to mention this to avoid any potential flame wars igniting as some folks get a little 'Apple' when you speak objectively.
Chances are notecore will get there, but for me right now, SpeedMod whilst lacking the outright speed of NC, its just as smooth but more reliable.
As always ymmv.
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Agree with that.
NoteCore is all speed. SpeedMod is stable, smooth and reliable.
I had corrupt sd-card on NoteCore, don't remember which version but I never tried it again. Things have gotten better and I might give V7 a try.
As for people getting apples - welcome to Internet there are E-Rambo-Hulks everywhere.:silly:
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Agree with that.
NoteCore is all speed. SpeedMod is stable, smooth and reliable.
I had corrupt sd-card on NoteCore, don't remember which version but I never tried it again. Things have gotten better and I might give V7 a try.
As for people getting apples - welcome to Internet there are E-Rambo-Hulks everywhere.:silly:
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Haha, E-Rambo-Hulks, not heard that 1 before.
Also had issues with the sd card unmounting & apps uninstalled on reboot.
Just tried v7 so far the freezing has gone, especially with dead trigger.
will give it a few hours/days.
Edit: freezing still happening, back to speedmod.
ive never had an issue with either kernel but for me notecore out performs speedmod hands down.
There are 2 versions of notecore, Standard and extreme, Extreme does not work for everyone (strange but true) But it works for me
No issues, No FC's, No lags, No battery drain.
I play dead trigger A LOT and i have the tegra 3 graphics enabled and it is buttery smooth. Awesome game if i must say so.
But the only way to know which one is right for you is to try them both and heavily test them
What works for one person doesnt mean it will work for another.
notecore kernel are AWESONE.....
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ive never had an issue with either kernel but for me notecore out performs speedmod hands down.
There are 2 versions of notecore, Standard and extreme, Extreme does not work for everyone (strange but true) But it works for me
No issues, No FC's, No lags, No battery drain.
I play dead trigger A LOT and i have the tegra 3 graphics enabled and it is buttery smooth. Awesome game if i must say so.
But the only way to know which one is right for you is to try them both and heavily test them
What works for one person doesnt mean it will work for another.
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Completely agree with you. Anyone that feels speedmod is just as smooth but more stable must not use their phones for gaming or other CPU intensive apps because the difference is HUGE if you are comparing the OCed version with the regular speedmod.
Of course, it all depends on what the person needs it for and nothing beats testing for yourself since it takes little time to flash back and forth.
Regards
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Chances are notecore will get there, but for me right now, SpeedMod whilst lacking the outright speed of NC, its just as smooth but more reliable.
As always ymmv.
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Anyone that feels speedmod is just as smooth but more stable must not use their phones for gaming or other CPU intensive apps because the difference is HUGE
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i said it was just as smooth & more reliable, i gave my opinion based on my experience,
please accept my apologies if english isnt your 1st language so you dont understand what you're typing, but for you to assume how another person uses their phone based on your experience, makes no sense.
notecore is fast, no question, but for me, with fifa12, dead trigger, nova3, gt racing... all play just as smooth with both kernels, where i notice the speed difference is on things like launcher transitions or opening solid explorer NC is a fraction quicker, not Huge, we're talking milliseconds quicker.
again, genuine apologies if your comment has been misinterpreted but the point still stands... your experience will be different to others (vice-versa).
In my personal experience I find both of them good in their own ways. Note core is a full performance kernel while speedmod Is a balanced kernel. I keep coming back to Note core because of it's brilliant performance, thanks to Gavin .
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i said it was just as smooth & more reliable, i gave my opinion based on my experience,
please accept my apologies if english isnt your 1st language so you dont understand what you're typing, but for you to assume how another person uses their phone based on your experience, makes no sense.
notecore is fast, no question, but for me, with fifa12, dead trigger, nova3, gt racing... all play just as smooth with both kernels, where i notice the speed difference is on things like launcher transitions or opening solid explorer NC is a fraction quicker, not Huge, we're talking milliseconds quicker.
again, genuine apologies if your comment has been misinterpreted but the point still stands... your experience will be different to others (vice-versa).
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Look mate... I understood what you said perfectly so no idea what your language comment was about.... And I would like to see a video of Nova 3 on both kernels on your phone because I test every rom and kernel pretty much and I know that the performance is not the same... I hope English is your first language so you can understand that 'talk is cheap' ....
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Look mate... I understood what you said perfectly so no idea what your language comment was about.... And I would like to see a video of Nova 3 on both kernels on your phone because I test every rom and kernel pretty much and I know that the performance is not the same... I hope English is your first language so you can understand that 'talk is cheap' ....
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Theoretically you are right.
In practice, you may not be.
SpeedMod = stability oriented.
NOTECORE= speed oriented.
AOSP kernel = speed and feature oriented.
Nova 3 could run fullspeed on Stock Samsung, SpeedMod, Notecore and AOSP. Or Nova 3 running fullspeed only on AOSP. Or only on Notecore and AOSP.
Obviously, it depends on how good the device (they're not created equal) and rom is, as well as the user (different apps installed, different forms of usage).
The only way to decide is to test them personally and see what works for you.
I'm using and testing also both, and all versions...... If you compare it with cars, or car builder, then Hardcore is more the "settled" one, like Mercedes, that is a kernel, that is solid, stable and do what it should do..... Speedmod is good, if you want to have a kernel with good performance, but you don't want to Overclock or something...... And I think, here speedmod is very good....... For Users, they don't want to screw on setups, just having a kernel, that is installed and good!
Gavin is more like a tuning builder, like amg that takes the Mercedes and try to get out more performance on every little part of the engine....... But also get stable enough to win the 24hours race in LeMans
My favourite is Notecore, cause I'm also a screwing fan...... To get as much performance as can out of my note, and here is Notecore definitely on Pole Position....... Since V4 performance is so good, that I get the first time really satisfied......... All runs very fast, apps open like rockets..... Game performance is awesome (gaming Dead Trigger with full effects and tegra effects also triggered on, runs smooth as butter), and also on heavy apps like Photoshop touch, there is enough power to render effects on high resolution pics from Cameras like the CV-5 with 4096x2048 px in png nearly uncompressed......
But Notecore is a performance Kernel, if you are a bit sensible, and you get a heart attack, if your phone gets a little bit warm.... Than better use a kernel that is a bit more conservative.....
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Look mate... I understood what you said perfectly so no idea what your language comment was about.... And I would like to see a video of Nova 3 on both kernels on your phone because I test every rom and kernel pretty much and I know that the performance is not the same... I hope English is your first language so you can understand that 'talk is cheap' ....
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@ Kangal
Nice summary,
@shaolin95
Really not fussed enough to flash both kernels make a video just to prove a point (I'm yawning at the thought), I have no reason to lie about the smoothness, simply want what most people want, great performance with stability, still it's just a phone, I don't fret about getting 5 more fps.
If you're getting that with NC then I'm happy for you. I'm not, but I'll say again, it's only a matter of time before the dev gets it spot on. Until then speedmod works great for me.
All the best.
From classic rom. Has tried note std v7 for 3 days. Very smooth and battery drain performance was superb as well. But having same issue with other user. UI sometimes will hang for few second without any respond. But still able to pull down notification bar.
Tried speedmod k3-9 yesterday till now, stable, battery performance not bad at all, smooth and no single hang.
Battery performance is very subjective things, u must try it and compare by your self.
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