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[Q] Audio on the HD7, Display, and Network...

Hi All,
So i am thinking of going for a HD 7 device and the only thing that's holding me back right now is other people's comments about the sound quality as well as the display on the device.
I saw a video on youtube that does a comparison between the HD7 and Surround and i was surprised by the difference - Surround seems to have a better output when it comes to colors and depth! Is that the case? Are you satisfied with the HD7's display?
Secondly... Since the HD7 does not have any front speakers (the grill's being there for show only), how does the audio on the device compare to others? I hate phones with low audio... It was the one thing i hated most about my iPhone and it was also a major thing with the X1 as well. I like a phone whose ring tone sounds proper...
Care to comment?
With that said... I'm living in Pakistan... so i'm pretty much having a family relative purchase it for me and bring it down for me. We don't have 3G here - shocking - but only Edge... so i imagine either one of TMobile or ATT should work with the networks here? iPhone and Xperia X1 and Xperia X10 didn't have any network problems down here...
Regards.
Salman Khalid

the display on the HD7 is absolutely fine.
It's not and Iphone 4 or an Amoled, but it is a perfectly fine LCD.
I think the sound for things like music, is louder on this phone than any other phone I've had.

The sound does sound weak when you first get the phone but for all hd7 owners you have to download the htc sound enhancer. This will enable Dolby mobile, srs enhancement or allow you to ustilize the equaliser. With out any of these settings on i have found voice quality and music to generally suffer a bit. enabling it has greatly enhanced the sound capabilites of both speaker and headphone quality.
Generally speaking, when you get your hd7 or any htc phone download all the htc apps from the htc hub, it will greatly enhance the expereince on the phone.

msanda_77 said:
The sound does sound weak when you first get the phone but for all hd7 owners you have to download the htc sound enhancer. This will enable Dolby mobile, srs enhancement or allow you to ustilize the equaliser. With out any of these settings on i have found voice quality and music to generally suffer a bit. enabling it has greatly enhanced the sound capabilites of both speaker and headphone quality.
Generally speaking, when you get your hd7 or any htc phone download all the htc apps from the htc hub, it will greatly enhance the expereince on the phone.
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Agreed I should have mentioned that as well... that was one of the first things I did. I've had Dolby enabled the whole time.

Thanks guys... definitely going for HTC! But now torn between the Surround and HD7... guess will throw the names into a hat and pick one out!

Dont no where you heard about the speakers but my HD7's two front grills do have speakers behind them. They dont sound as loud as the one @ the back by the camera but yes definitely has two front speakers.

Said that based on various posts across the forums and internet... PocketNow's review of HD7 clearly states them to be simply grills...
But i guess i'll find out eventually for myself: 'Coz i just placed an order for the HD7!!!

Personally I would choose the HD7 over the ATT surround as the speaker design is simply ugly and looks like some pocket radio from 1980.

f1restarter said:
Personally I would choose the HD7 over the ATT surround as the speaker design is simply ugly and looks like some pocket radio from 1980.
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Yeah... well, i do like the Surround a lot too... but i decided that the speaker, though has its charms, that charm'll probably fade away pretty quickly... HD7 seemed like the best bet.
I was for a moment thinking about the Samsung Focus 'coz of its MicroSD slot and the superior display... but bah! the HD7 is a better device! And as everyone's reporting, and as i know HTC to hold true to that fact... HTC'll probably provide the best support for their devices...

There is not two front facing speakers on the HD7
DJ Lu said:
Dont no where you heard about the speakers but my HD7's two front grills do have speakers behind them. They dont sound as loud as the one @ the back by the camera but yes definitely has two front speakers.
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I thought the same thing because i put my ear against the grills and heard sound from them...but it is only sound conducted through the case. It does look sweet though with identical grills on top and bottom.
Lancelot
T-Mobile
HTC Addict
HD2/HD7

If you have SRS enhancements enabled, there are definitely speakers behind the front grills...I'm not sure why there is this misinformation going around but them being design only...sound comes out of them, take your phone apart, disconnect the rear speaker, and find out if you don't believe us

FiyaFleye said:
If you have SRS enhancements enabled, there are definitely speakers behind the front grills...I'm not sure why there is this misinformation going around but them being design only...sound comes out of them, take your phone apart, disconnect the rear speaker, and find out if you don't believe us
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So much misinformation is flowing around 'coz HTC is stupidly ignoring all of this instead of simply posting more info about it... Plus this guy took the HD7 apart to locate the SD card slot, and the bottom grill on his device didn't have anything behind it or such to make it appear as a speaker...
Possible that the top one is...

Unless the guy took apart the entire phone (why?), he would not see the front speakers if he were just replacing the hidden sd card. I believe HTC says that they're stereo speakers, hence real speakers on the top and bottom. Lastly, they do exist because I've demoed the phone and completely closed of the back speaker while listening to the front. Although not as loud as the back speaker, the front ones do play sound, and it wasn't just loud rear speaker sound playing through the case. I have an HD2 and when you completely close off the rear speaker sound, you do not hear any sound through the front of the case.

->> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9174769&postcount=40
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Well, I'll admit I humbly stand corrected. It must indeed be sound spill from the rear speaker then, even though I did the comparison as I stated in my previous post. So, then what renders the HD7 "stereo"? The earpiece speaker combined with the rear speaker? C'mon, HTC... Looks like someone's got some 'splainin' to do.....

Matt Wolf said:
? C'mon, HTC... Looks like someone's got some 'splainin' to do.....
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HTC never mentioned stereo for HD7 .
It’s theirs bad “shady” marketing strategy that makes you believe that you have stereo speakers.
That’s the main purpose of the bottom grill for the “second” speaker and there is a reason why its there.
That`s the main hook that does the job. Add the Dolby Mobile trademark and that’s it. They successfully installed and "created" stereo in our heads only.
If that doesn't do the job , than others so called reviewers will just put the cherry on the top.
Its the same with their 4.3 SUPER TFT that doesn't exist.
PS.
This is probably the explanation if they need one at all after all. (Not sure.)
** Dolby SRS MObile - Mono-to-Stereo Creator—adds depth to the playback of mono content that users download or create…

Google, turn the speaker around!

The speaker is decent. It even has good volume.
Iff you've got the tablet facing away from you!
This is really terrible placement of the speaker on this device. It's not a speaker for ringing as on a phone. It's a speaker that's meant to be heard when the tablet is in use with the display facing you. Cupping my hand over the speaker slit and extending that beyond the edge of the tablet works ... but isn't something you can really expect or want to do.
That's probably my biggest gripe with the tablet.
The screen isn't the best but.. I'll take it for the money.

Really, you don't like the screen? I think it has a better color tone than the iPad 3 honestly. Didn't really notice much of a difference in the resolution either.
The external sound's not too bad. If you put it on a surface then it helps amplify it, just like with a phone. The headphone sound quality on the other hand is outstanding! :good:

I wish manufacturers would figure out a way to have forward-facing speakers... my G2x has a speaker on the bottom. Better, but seriously... watching a YouTube clip without cupping my hand around the device to reflect the sound to my face would be a nice change. Meh... not that big of a deal to me but I do agree with your frustration.

It seems simple to me, there is already a bevel on these devices. They just need to make the bevel a little bit larger on the side to let the sound out. This is what my TV does and it works very well.
Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201 using Tapatalk 2

I was looking at the design and from a "why did they do it that way?" perspective and two things are clear.
1. they want to present the face of the tablet as an unbroken sheet of glass (ohh, ahh!)
2. they don't want to incur the cost of putting a slit in the glass
They could reduce the size of the glass and have a very narrow molded plastic border on the top and bottom for stereo speakers. Would work a heck of a lot better but violate #1...
I really think they're destroying functionality for aesthetics.

Playbook (though bigger) does have forward facing speakers, and are probably the best sound that I've heard on a tablet mainly due to the placement.

its more so because on most phones, the microphone is at the bottom. putting a speaker next to a microphone never ends well. mainly because on calls where you use loud speaker, you'd get the endless loop/echo where the speaker feeds their audio back into the microphone. noise cancelling mics are useless for cancelling the audio since the noise cancelling mic is too far away from the speaker, so the latency doesnt help.

I somehow think putting a magnet aka speaker on the screen would cause problems with the capacitive touch.
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It sucks when you put the 7 on a stand and it is blocking the speaker and muffing the sound. But what can you do? Plug in some headphones that's what.
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Hexdecimal said:
Really, you don't like the screen? I think it has a better color tone than the iPad 3 honestly. Didn't really notice much of a difference in the resolution either.
The external sound's not too bad. If you put it on a surface then it helps amplify it, just like with a phone. The headphone sound quality on the other hand is outstanding! :good:
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Wait. What?! Can you provide a photo comparison of your device next to a iPad. This display has hardly any saturation or contrast compared to the iPad. The DAC in this thing is also horrid; audio sounds extremely bad with headphones. A world away from the Galaxy S III DAC.
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Hexdecimal said:
Really, you don't like the screen? I think it has a better color tone than the iPad 3 honestly. Didn't really notice much of a difference in the resolution either.
The external sound's not too bad. If you put it on a surface then it helps amplify it, just like with a phone. The headphone sound quality on the other hand is outstanding! :good:
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Well, I have both an iPad 3 and a Nexus 7, and while I like the Nexus 7 screen well enough, it doesn't really compare to the iPad's. Colors and saturation aren't even close, and nothing has text as good as the iPad (I think it's as much to do with how Android renders text as the resolution of the LCD). Don't get me wrong, text on the Nexus 7 is plenty good enough, but you can't say it's nearly as good as on the iPad.
My biggest problem with audio on the Nexus 7, both external and via headphones, is volume. It just doesn't get very loud. That's a complaint with the iPad 3, however, and really I have yet to come across a tablet with decent sound. So, that's not a fair knock against the Nexus 7.

ROM With Best Camera pics?

Currently running ViperOne and I find that the camera pics that it produce is very grainy even at the highest resolution possible.
Which ROM do you like that have the best camera/video quality?
Thanks,

I personally don't think you will find a rom that will produce good pics on the HTC one. The fact is in my opinion the HTC one has the crappiest camera out there. Its an amazing phone with a horrible camera. If it had the lumia 1020 camera, this phone would be the best phone in the planet! I still like it cause love the sound and the build quality. But they dropped the ball in the camera big time. Hopefully the M8 will correct that. Fingers crossed.
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Personally I like the camera on the One. I came from a Galaxy SII with an 8MP camera and I thought that was pretty good, but the One's camera might not be the highest resolution but it puts those 4MPs to better use. As for the OP's question, I think you should try the camera from the 2.25 base, it's in the Themes and Apps section. It can make gifs too for what it's worth. But honestly I can never tell the difference in picture quality between the sense camera apps.

smokarz said:
Currently running ViperOne and I find that the camera pics that it produce is very grainy even at the highest resolution possible.
Which ROM do you like that have the best camera/video quality?
Thanks,
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Any Sense rom will be pretty much the same. IMHO, the HTC camera is better than the CM/AOSP one, so your grainy pictures might be as good as it gets.

robjbw said:
I personally don't think you will find a rom that will produce good pics on the HTC one. The fact is in my opinion the HTC one has the crappiest camera out there. Its an amazing phone with a horrible camera. If it had the lumia 1020 camera, this phone would be the best phone in the planet! I still like it cause love the sound and the build quality. But they dropped the ball in the camera big time. Hopefully the M8 will correct that. Fingers crossed.
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What build quality? Seriously? All those gap problems, and screen not being flush with the speaker grill, speaker grill overhang/underhang, makes me think HTC is low quality even though there's so little that can go wrong. Build quality is one of my major complaint about HTC One.
Most ROM's use up to date firmware bases, so there's little that can be done to improve picture quality. I think HTC One's camera is the best for indoor/low light shots. Colors are still there, and the photos are actually worth printing 4x6. For bright daylight, I think it is lower than average though. Grainy blue artificial looking sky.

Well, my One looks pretty good. Don't see any gaps here or there. Screen looks great.But if anybody has any of those problems you mentioned, they should exchange it or get a different cell. S4 is pretty good from what I hear. But don't like the fact that speaker is on back of phone. Regarding camera again, I get some good shots here and there. On phone screen they look good but when you check the full resolution in you computer, like you said "4x6" only will do. "Ultrapixel", who they kidding.
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robjbw said:
Well, my One looks pretty good. Don't see any gaps here or there. Screen looks great.But if anybody has any of those problems you mentioned, they should exchange it or get a different cell. S4 is pretty good from what I hear. But don't like the fact that speaker is on back of phone. Regarding camera again, I get some good shots here and there. On phone screen they look good but when you check the full resolution in you computer, like you said "4x6" only will do. "Ultrapixel", who they kidding.
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I see.
Yes the pics on the phone screen looks decent, but when you try to view the pics on a laptop or 10" tablet at full resolution, it looks too grainy, lacking sharpness/detail, and a little too much artifacts.
I guess it's what one should expect from a 4MP pixel camera.

(Q) Nexus 6 Stereo Speakers VS HTC One M8 Boomsound, comparable?

I've been trying to find a comparison of the 2 for a while now.
Are they better? worse? louder? quieter?
Any info's greatly appreciated.

I believe no one is allowed to do a full review until the 12th, that is why we have been seeing more of the same videos (Unboxing, quick flipping through the screens, not going into any apps, etc.). Once the 12th comes around, there will be a flood of everything you want. You probably won't get a answer to your question until then.

klubhead said:
I've been trying to find a comparison of the 2 for a while now.
Are they better? worse? louder? quieter?
Any info's greatly appreciated.
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I definitely look forward to Wednesday when the NDA is lifted but http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/1...-googles-nexus-6-really-big-really-beautiful/ already posted (from a non-audio buff):
"The Speakers
I was excited to find that - unlike the Moto X - both of the Nexus 6's speakers work when playing media, not just the bottom one. When Google says stereo speakers, they mean it. I'm not an audio buff by any stretch of the imagination, so I can only comment from my limited frame of reference. That said, the Nexus 6 speakers get plenty loud, but for example the bass tones in Vitalic's Bluesy Tuesday aren't entirely rich or full, and the bubbly high notes of Classixx's Hanging Gardens do experience distortion at higher volumes. In general though, the speakers do sound good. They aren't exactly on the same level as HTC's BoomSound on the M8, but they're definitely passable, and for myself - a person who rarely listens to music on phone speakers - they're good."
More positive preliminary impression of speakers:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/larrymagid/2014/11/01/hands-on-with-googles-nexus-6/
"Great screen and sound quality
The Nexus 6 1440 by 2560 pixel (493 ppi) AMOLED display is brilliant and compares very well to the iPhone 6 Plus’s 1920 by 1080 pixel (401 ppi) screen. You can’t go wrong either way when it comes to screen resolution. I watched a Netflix video and read portions of a Kindle book on the Nexus 6 and while watching video on a large phone isn’t quite as immersive as watching it on a tablet, it’s not bad. And the sound quality from the Nexus 6 front-mounted stereo speakers is excellent. The speakers are at the top and bottom of the phone, which means they’re left and right with as much separation as possible when the phone is held in landscape position. With the volume cranked all the way up, I could hear it well from anywhere in an average-sized living room without significant distortion. It’s one of the few phones I would consider listening to without headphones."
More Wednesday..

Exactly what I've been looking for, thank you!!!

Yeah, we have to wait for official reviews. Hopefully it is on par with HTC's boomsound. Even if isn't. front facing speakers beat rear facing speakers every day of the week.

[Q] How do you find the screen and speakers?

How do you find the screen and speakers?

Turn the phone over. You're probably looking at the wrong side.

quarrymanpaul said:
Turn the phone over. You're probably looking at the wrong side.
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HA! That's what I thought at first too.

I vote with 5th option: It's a phone ... as long as it has screen and speakers I'm happy.

These comments though :'D Anyway, the screen seems great to me but the display's white balance varies from phone to phone. The speakers are good enough for me. You really don't need louder speakers and right now only One M8 has louder speakers as far as I know.
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I arrived at this phone from the LG G2 (which I still have, so have seen side by side) and I'm really quite pleased with the screen. I mean I'm aware that it is technically a downgrade but I honestly don't notice it during use in the slightest. The speakers also seem comparable really and I have no complaints but to be honest I use Bluetooth speakers alot and probably don't look for sound quality out of the phones speakers. Anyway, that's my experiences! ?