For UK users considering getting the Nexus 4 and are looking for the best Sim for it, I have to say Giffgaff has me really impressed.
£12 nets you 250 mins, unlimited texts and unlimited* internet (*there's a fair usage policy, but it's something like 30gb a week).
The Unlimited Data means you can really take advantage of the cloud storage options on the Nexus and save yourself £40 over the 16GB model (unless you download a ton of apps and games, you won't need the space).
If you store all your music on Google Music and stream when you need it, and upload all your videos and pictures to Dropbox or Google Drive and delete them from your phone, it leaves the whole 5.5gb of available space for apps.
Been using it all weekend and I'm incredibly impressed so far. I reckon this is what Google had in mind for the Nexus range.
You may as well have gone with o2, seen as though GiffGaff use o2's satellites but with half of the "signal power" as it were. Full power being reserved for o2 customers of course lol
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I have the 16gb on o2 and the hspa coverage is good. Three are also meant to be good.
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speedyjay said:
You may as well have gone with o2, seen as though GiffGaff use o2's satellites but with half of the "signal power" as it were. Full power being reserved for o2 customers of course lol
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Beg pardon? Do you have any idea that what you just wrote is total gibberish, technically speaking?
speedyjay said:
You may as well have gone with o2, seen as though GiffGaff use o2's satellites but with half of the "signal power" as it were. Full power being reserved for o2 customers of course lol
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That's not physically possible and even if it were it would violate so much EU competition law no one would do it.
im with Three. £15.90 gives me 600 mins, Unlimited (5000) texts, and Unlimited Internet, no fair use policy. Thats for 12 months and there is also a 1 month rolling option for the same price but a reduced number of mins to 300.
Yeah with Google music, dropbox/box/drive I seen to store very little on my device. Got a lot of games installed, couple of big ones and I've not hit my limit yet.
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Can't vouch for giff gaff's data reception. I live in West Yorkshire and the signal is very variable. I get a lot of "server overloaded" messages in Opera on the first try. I am not aware of a "Fair Use Policy" but I thought that the market was generally moving away from that kind of marketing anyway.
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man... mobile plans are so cheap in england! not fair!
I'm with tmobile full monty, unlimited everything, only paying £21 a month but had £120 cashback and £31.50 cashback from car phone warehouse so about £8.38 a month expires in July though.
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GiffGaff use o2's satellites but with half of the "signal power"
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Satellites...you sure its not voodoo magic.
My brother is with GiffGaff, and has no complaints. It's certainly one of the cheapest unlimited internet plans available I think.
The prices in here show what REAL capitalism is all about, our prices/plans in the US don't come close
Im with Giffgaff and must say I always get good signal.. I usually opt for the only 2g network settings unless Im actually going to browse the internet. As soon as I switch off the 2g only setting. My network indicator will show H straight away.
I have used giffgaff and found the signal in West Yorkshire to be very poor. Its a shame really as the O2 network used to be really good.
The comment about giffgaff getting half the signal of O2 is utter c%^p.
I got onto the T-Mobile full monty plan, Unlimited everything (calls, text and web) for £16 a month with £100 cash back :highfive: I have asked what happened at the end of the contract and it goes up to £31 a month, however call up T-Mobile and they will honour the tariff for another year
on giffgaff here, using the tenner a month package since I don't really need unlimited internet thanks to wifi on my bus, home, uni, train etc etc lol
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The prices in here show what REAL capitalism is all about, our prices/plans in the US don't come close
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But you live in a free country.
We have a queen and everything. She doesn't allow companies to fix prices. Very fascist for the companies.
speedyjay said:
You may as well have gone with o2, seen as though GiffGaff use o2's satellites but with half of the "signal power" as it were. Full power being reserved for o2 customers of course lol
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1: O2 Don't offer unlimited Data
2: O2's Cheapest Plan with a decent amount of data requires a 12 month contract (and it's still only 1GB a month).
3: Giffgaff uses O2's cell network. And they get the same connection as O2 customers (and all the other MVNOs who use O2's network).
4: Stop talking rubbish.
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3: Giffgaff uses O2's cell network. And they get the same connection as O2 customers (and all the other MVNOs who use O2's network).
4: Stop talking rubbish.
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Why are you bashing the guy? Ok he is not using the correct terms but the base of what he is saying is correct. They use O2's network and most likely will get the same reception, but do not get the same 'priority' that O2 users will get when it comes to using that network
If my father wasn't at work, I would ask him for the details as he works for O2 (not on their store sales team either..)
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Why are you bashing the guy? Ok he is not using the correct terms but the base of what he is saying is correct. They use O2's network and most likely will get the same reception, but do not get the same 'priority' that O2 users will get when it comes to using that network
If my father wasn't at work, I would ask him for the details as he works for O2 (not on their store sales team either..)
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O2 have a habit of telling customers that Giffgaff's data network is slower than their own (O2's Retentions Department is particularly bad at this) in order to retain or gain customers, however, the fact is that they use exactly the same network infrastructure (as do Tesco Mobile).
O2 have no "control" over Giffgaff's data traffic (they use different APNs for a start), so there's no "priority" system involved. Giffgaff simply lease bandwidth from O2 in the same way that Sky or TalkTalk lease bandwidth from BT for home ADSL.
So no, the base of what he's saying is actually wrong.
Here's a quick test I did with my giffgaff sim and my contract O2 sim, same phone, same location (best result out of 5 tests each)
giffgaff:
Ping: 102ms Download: 6293kbps Upload 2104kbps
O2:
Ping: 92ms Download: 6190kbps Upload 2307kbps
The difference is minimal
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look at this T-mo plan for $60/month no contract:
unlimited talk
unlimited SMS & MMS
unlimited 4g data (throttled at 2GB, but I will never use that much due to wifi)
no overage charges possible
free roaming on AT&T and Corr Wireless
free tethering!!
free mobile broadband!! (wireless hotspot)
free wifi calling!! (critical when you live in a dead spot for all carriers)
do you realize that if I got an Android 4g smartphone on Sprint, Verizon, or AT&T with all of those features above, I would be looking at $200+/month and I still wouldn't have the wifi calling
wooohoo! T-mo is the best deal in town BY FAR!
I went with the $30 100 minute/unlimited text/unlimited(5gb) plan. Pretty happy so far!
Trying it out compared to my verizon plan which is entirely too expensive, can make up the ETF in 5 months with the money I'll save with tmobile.
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WTF? said:
look at this T-mo plan for $60/month no contract:
unlimited talk
unlimited SMS & MMS
unlimited 4g data (throttled at 2GB, but I will never use that much due to wifi)
no overage charges possible
free roaming on AT&T and Corr Wireless
free tethering!!
free mobile broadband!! (wireless hotspot)
free wifi calling!! (critical when you live in a dead spot for all carriers)
do you realize that if I got an Android 4g smartphone on Sprint, Verizon, or AT&T with all of those features above, I would be looking at $200+/month and I still wouldn't have the wifi calling
wooohoo! T-mo is the best deal in town BY FAR!
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How is T-Mobiles 4G reception? And how fast is their 4G, in your experience?
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How is T-Mobiles 4G reception? And how fast is their 4G, in your experience?
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There's no good answer to the hundreds of questions like this that keep being asked.
In general they have pretty fair coveage. But how would anyone know what it will be like for you? Like any carrier's service it's highly dependent on your location. For a rough idea go to T-Mobile.com and check a coverage map.
As for speed, it again is highly location-dependent. Also depends on you phone's capabilities. With an average phone probably 1-3mbps would be common in my area, sometimes double that. Check the coverage map.
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WTF? said:
look at this T-mo plan for $60/month no contract:
unlimited talk
unlimited SMS & MMS
unlimited 4g data (throttled at 2GB, but I will never use that much due to wifi)
no overage charges possible
free roaming on AT&T and Corr Wireless
free tethering!!
free mobile broadband!! (wireless hotspot)
free wifi calling!! (critical when you live in a dead spot for all carriers)
do you realize that if I got an Android 4g smartphone on Sprint, Verizon, or AT&T with all of those features above, I would be looking at $200+/month and I still wouldn't have the wifi calling
wooohoo! T-mo is the best deal in town BY FAR!
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I used to envy the deals available in the US. No more though, that sounds like highway robbery.
$40/month.... unlimited calling (in, out, to anywhere in north america no long distance), unlimited data.
I can't wait to see what Republic Wireless does - http://gigaom.com/2011/10/31/republic-wireless-to-launch-19-voice-sms-service/
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There's no good answer to the hundreds of questions like this that keep being asked.
In general they have pretty fair coveage. But how would anyone know what it will be like for you? Like any carrier's service it's highly dependent on your location. For a rough idea go to T-Mobile.com and check a coverage map.
As for speed, it again is highly location-dependent. Also depends on you phone's capabilities. With an average phone probably 1-3mbps would be common in my area, sometimes double that. Check the coverage map.
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Agree with all of this. Asking other people on here about their reception/data speed is meaningless, unless they live in our immediate area. Reception varies drastically by location. Even around the same city. For instance, I get up to 4 Mbps on AT&T's HSPA+ network, at my office, and usually less than 0.5 Mbps at home. And these two locations are less than 15 miles apart, and both are well-developed suburbs around Boston.
Try asking around with friends and co-workers in your area if they have T-Mob, and what their reception is like.
WTF? said:
look at this T-mo plan for $60/month no contract:
unlimited talk
unlimited SMS & MMS
unlimited 4g data (throttled at 2GB, but I will never use that much due to wifi)
no overage charges possible
free roaming on AT&T and Corr Wireless
free tethering!!
free mobile broadband!! (wireless hotspot)
free wifi calling!! (critical when you live in a dead spot for all carriers)
do you realize that if I got an Android 4g smartphone on Sprint, Verizon, or AT&T with all of those features above, I would be looking at $200+/month and I still wouldn't have the wifi calling
wooohoo! T-mo is the best deal in town BY FAR!
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free mobile broadband!! (wireless hotspot)
Please explain? Free wired tethering to a PC - no problem, but free WIRELESS tethering??? I assume not stock rom?
free wifi calling!! (critical when you live in a dead spot for all carriers)
Not for all TMO plans. My plan takes away from my minute bucket with wi-fi calling. There's GrooVe IP. I just started using it - FREE voip - works with my G2 - Tmobile in the US. It costs $2 at Amazon Android Market. Integrates nicely with contacts, on stock rom. Unlimited domestic FREE voip - data or wi-fi.
Yes, we have plenty of dead spots in USA, it is a very large country as far as physical area.
In USA you have service most places though, especially the carrier Verizon, they have the best coverage of the country (and the crazy high prices to go with it)
however, my home, which is strangely in the middle of a big city, has no service from any carrier (sometimes 1 bar) and so wifi-calling is a must!
it is only small countries that are very high-tech like South Korea or Taiwan that have no dead spots.
The good thing about USA is that, so far, we have no censorship of our Internet.
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Really? I didn't know your internet was not censored! Oh c'mon! of course free (as in freedom) internet is part of the humans rights! Internet is one of the main reasons I want to leave this sh## hole.
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For the most part Milad, internet in the US ( and Canada and probably a good deal of EUR) isn't censored like it is in other parts of the world (Iran, China etc) We have other problems.
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m1l4droid said:
The thing is BD, we have the other problems you have too, have ALL the problems!
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I have the MOST problems. Try and top me....just try (and fail )
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Here is a heads up for anyone in the UK buying a Nexus 7 3G and wanting cheap data.
Virgin are doing an offer at the moment 12 Months Free Data when you buy a PAYG Smartphone.
Fair Use is 1Gb a month which should be ok for most users.
Cheapest phone included in the deal is just £34.99 - In the box is a voucher for your free 12 Months net. Activate it and pop it in your Nexus 7,
You can get £11 for the handset at CEX or give it to a kid. Whatever you do with it, very cheap price for a 1GB Data a month for 12 months,
Sim also has £10 credit already on it so some cash for sending texts...
£7.99 Delivery charge if you buy online, but also available in Virgin Media Stores across the country
And it works very well..
Link to Phone
http://www.virginmobile.com/vm/viewProduct.do?productId=19804757
Link to T&CS on Data
http://www.virginmobile.com/vm/genericContent.do?contentId=our.promotions.footer.sm191
Great news
I have a wifi Nexus, and use a dongle to connect to the net when there is no wifi available, could you confirm that, virgin sim cards work with dongles and is it legal or not?
I know that Three probably don't have the best reputation but the plan I am on is amazing
I bought one of their sim only plans on a one month contract. Disregarding the text and voice allowance, since this is designed for a phone, it comes with all you can eat data. All for £12.50 a month! The one catch if you can call it that, is tethering isn't allowed, but that doesn't bother me.
The network is probably not as good as others, but its held up pretty well while I've been using it. I suggest others give it a try before over spending on other networks. I find they tend to short change in terms of data.
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savalangh said:
Great news
I have a wifi Nexus, and use a dongle to connect to the net when there is no wifi available, could you confirm that, virgin sim cards work with dongles and is it legal or not?
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Sorry I have no idea about dongles I have only used the sim in the Nexus and an iPad so not sure if they would have any way to tell if it was in a dongle or if that was against T&Cs
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I know that Three probably don't have the best reputation but the plan I am on is amazing
I bought one of their sim only plans on a one month contract. Disregarding the text and voice allowance, since this is designed for a phone, it comes with all you can eat data. All for £12.50 a month! The one catch if you can call it that, is tethering isn't allowed, but that doesn't bother me.
The network is probably not as good as others, but its held up pretty well while I've been using it. I suggest others give it a try before over spending on other networks. I find they tend to short change in terms of data.
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Not really a comparison £12.50 a MONTH on contract against £35 or less for a YEAR without contract?
What about the T-Mobile £10 iPhone microSIM deal that includes free data for a year? Wouldn't that still be the best? Or is there some drawback with that?
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What about the T-Mobile £10 iPhone microSIM deal that includes free data for a year? Wouldn't that still be the best? Or is there some drawback with that?
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You need to have access to an unlocked (or on the T-Mobile network) iPhone 4 or 4S to get the offer. If you have then it works. I didn't (the iPhone I was goign to use was locked to Vodaphone) and instead I used the £20 for 6 months offer they have. Not as good as the virgin offer above, but it worked (SMS and data are both fine) and its pretty cheap. You're limited to 500mb data / month with T-mobile's fair use policy.
Setup one of these: T-Mobile SIM from eBay, today. Works fine in my MiFi and is ready if/when I get my hands on a Nexus 7 3G.
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You need to have access to an unlocked (or on the T-Mobile network) iPhone 4 or 4S to get the offer. If you have then it works. I didn't (the iPhone I was goign to use was locked to Vodaphone) and instead I used the £20 for 6 months offer they have. Not as good as the virgin offer above, but it worked (SMS and data are both fine) and its pretty cheap. You're limited to 500mb data / month with T-mobile's fair use policy.
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Ah OK, I wondered if that might be the case. As it happens, I do have access to an unlocked iPhone 4S (not mine, I hasten to add).
I haven't got my N7 3G yet - if only I could find somewhere to buy one - but I have bought a 3-month 3GB Three SIM for just under £11, in readiness. After 3 months though, my custom is up for grabs.
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Sorry I have no idea about dongles I have only used the sim in the Nexus and an iPad so not sure if they would have any way to tell if it was in a dongle or if that was against T&Cs
Not really a comparison £12.50 a MONTH on contract against £35 or less for a YEAR without contract?
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Its a 1 month rolling contract, so you are hardly tied down. The advantages of unlimited data outweigh my concerns. Worst comes to the worst, I cancel it with one months notice. It is hardly a massive obligation.
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It looks to me that you have to top up a tenner each month to get the free data...
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It looks to me that you have to top up a tenner each month to get the free data...
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No it clearly says in the description 12 months free web (1Gb a month)
When you buy the package they give you one of these scratchcards, you text the code on the card and you get a text back saying 1gb a month has been added to you your account this month and for the next 12 months.
Its only £10 a month if you don't buy the phones that come with the free 12 months web
Images Attached for reference. (The Code on the scrachcard has already been used )
Thanks, just ordered a nexus 7 mobile, will be buying this, how's virgin data? 3G or HSPDA, and reach?
3G/HSPA
flashyphotos said:
No it clearly says in the description 12 months free web (1Gb a month)
When you buy the package they give you one of these scratchcards, you text the code on the card and you get a text back saying 1gb a month has been added to you your account this month and for the next 12 months.
Its only £10 a month if you don't buy the phones that come with the free 12 months web
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How is network cover ? Do you have good 3G/HSPA support ?
vladi246 said:
How is network cover ? Do you have good 3G/HSPA support ?
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I believe that virgin uses EE's network. So cover should be pretty good
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Emma: Hello, as a Virgin Mobile order specialist, I can help you set up a new mobile account and select a phone. Are there any questions I may help answer for you today?
You: to get the free data do i have to top up each month?
Emma: Thank you for your interest in Virgin Mobile.
Emma: Yes, you need to top up each month.
Any updates to this?
Is the T-mobile iPhone sim card offer still the cheapest way to go?
Hi all.
Can anyone update this thread on an economical data SIM deal for use with the N7 3G in the UK? I'm after something that would give say <500Mb a month for occasional use.
I have one of the T-Mobile iPhone SIMs that works fine in most things but won't work in the N7 (I've tried it in 2 N7s now) and the Virgin deal mentioned earlier seems to have finished.
Any info appreciated.
Cheers - Y
Ydnaroo said:
Hi all.
Can anyone update this thread on an economical data SIM deal for use with the N7 3G in the UK? I'm after something that would give say <500Mb a month for occasional use.
I have one of the T-Mobile iPhone SIMs that works fine in most things but won't work in the N7 (I've tried it in 2 N7s now) and the Virgin deal mentioned earlier seems to have finished.
Any info appreciated.
Cheers - Y
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I'm not in the UK but I've heard of giffgaff which is an O2 MVNO. They have a £5/month 500 MB tablet plan.
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I'm not in the UK but I've heard of giffgaff which is an O2 MVNO. They have a £5/month 500 MB tablet plan.
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Hi. Thanks for that. I should have said in my original post that I need to avoid any O2 based services. O2 data connections are pretty dire in the places I normally use my devices. Vodafone is a bit better but not great. I've got a T-Mobile SIM that I use in a MiFi with my N7 and that works fine in most places so I'm probably looking for something from T-Mobile/Orange (EE) or Virgin.
Thanks again - Y
Fair enough. Foreigners rarely know which networks are the crappy ones
If you find a good option, let us know in case I come visit.
Regarding the Tmo iPhone SIM, could it be an APN issue or are they blocking the tablet? The firmware probably defaults to T-Mobile's tablet APN and you'd need to set it to their iPhone APN.
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I finally decided I am paying way too much for AT&T and made the switch to Net10's "family plan"
The way it works, is if you activate on auto-refill you get $5 off the first phone and $10 for every phone after that up to 4 so for my 2 lines it's only $85 a month. You can have up to 4 for $165.
I bought the BYOP SIM pack at Dollar General for $15. It comes with an AT&T compatible full sim, AT&T compatible micro, and a T-Mobile compatible full. I used the 2 AT&T sims for my N4 and daughter's GNex (saves $15 for another kit) you have to buy 2 $50 PINs up front to activate. The credits will come for subsequent months but I am sure I can call in and demand the $15 credit through customer service.
Speeds have been the same for my area that I was getting with AT&T with no drop off in coverage at all. I did have an issue "porting" my number but my daughters went through immediately.
Anyone that has multiple lines on ST, Simple Mobile, or anywhere else may benefit from this plan and save some extra cash every month.
http://www.net10wireless.com/#/plans/family
How much data is this?
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Nxxx said:
How much data is this?
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As with all Tracfone owned companies it is unlimited* with no real policy set in stone for the true limit.
I know at least 2 people who have used 5+GB in a month without issue.
what speeds would i get with this?
mgorman said:
what speeds would i get with this?
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AT&T HSPA+ which I believe is 5-7 Mbps on average
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Cleaned. Not sure what that was all about but it's gone.
Thanks
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As with all Tracfone owned companies it is unlimited* with no real policy set in stone for the true limit.
I know at least 2 people who have used 5+GB in a month without issue.
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To bad they don't have a set in stone data limit. I would rather it say 5gb then throttled, than leave me wondering.
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To bad they don't have a set in stone data limit. I would rather it say 5gb then throttled, than leave me wondering.
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That's the main issue with all prepaid carriers that offer unlimited. They have a policy but it's not set in stone. Most believe that ST, N10, Tracfone don't actually have the ability to throttle because they don't control the network so I wouldn't worry about it too much.
So net10 works through Tmobile & AT&T? What about APN's.. Does it use the stock ones or its own APN.
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I wish I could get this but have to wait til my contract with att ends next year..for my 3 lines
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To bad they don't have a set in stone data limit. I would rather it say 5gb then throttled, than leave me wondering.
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5GB on AT&T? Lol..not even close.. Net10 is the same thing as Straight Talk but ST is $5 less per month..not sure what the OP is going on about, probably because I only pay for myself which in that case ST is less expensive..AT&T gets better coverage in buildings due to lower frequency they use than T-Mobile but their data policy is more strict than T-Mobile prepaid and T-Mobiles data is faster.
Think I'll be sticking with T-Mobiles $30/month prepaid plan due to better data and being $20 cheaper than ST is a nice touch.
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5GB on AT&T? Lol..not even close.. Net10 is the same thing as Straight Talk but ST is $5 less per month..not sure what the OP is going on about, probably because I only pay for myself which in that case ST is less expensive..AT&T gets better coverage in buildings due to lower frequency they use than T-Mobile but their data policy is more strict than T-Mobile prepaid and T-Mobiles data is faster.
Think I'll be sticking with T-Mobiles $30/month prepaid plan due to better data and being $20 cheaper than ST is a nice touch.
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AT&T also has much better coverage in many areas. Even in dense metropolitan areas like Northern VA and Washington, D.C. I get stronger signal on AT&T, and when going on long car trips, I don't drop down to EDGE or even GPRS, like I did with T-Mobile. It all depends on coverage in your area and your typical usage. I get great in-building coverage on AT&T - often better than Verizon.
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AT&T also has much better coverage in many areas. Even in dense metropolitan areas like Northern VA and Washington, D.C. I get stronger signal on AT&T, and when going on long car trips, I don't drop down to EDGE or even GPRS, like I did with T-Mobile. It all depends on coverage in your area and your typical usage. I get great in-building coverage on AT&T - often better than Verizon.
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I live in Virginia too, T Mobile is nothing short of a joke here. I have straight talk and it's great 15 dollars more a month is worth unlimited minutes..
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Update: It's official. http://www.aiowireless.com/shop/plans.html
Not quite as good as initially promised. Unlimited voice and text on all plans. You get 250 MB for $40, 2 GB for $55, or 7GB for $70. Also, 250 MB of tablet data for $15. On all the phone plans, you get unlimited throttled data after going over your high-speed allotment.
The fine print says maximum data speed of 4 Mbps, which is lower than the 7Mbps I can often get on AT&T's network, but still not bad.
They do have a bring your own phone program. They ask for your IMEI. I put mine in and went ahead as if I were going to check out, and they seemed okay with me using a Nexus 4.
When you go to the website, it may ask for your zip code before you can view plans. This is presumably because it's being test-marketed in certain parts of the country. The earlier reports were that test markets would be Florida and Texas. I entered a random Florida zip code (34105) and it let me in to view plans. I haven't tried signing up, but I think there's a pretty good chance you could sign up and enter your real Zip code.
My take on this now is that $55 is a little too high for what they're offering. I'll stick with Net10, with 1.5GB of high-speed data guaranteed for $42.50 with a discounted SIM. But if you regularly use more data, this could be a worthwhile offering. The $70 for 7GB of high speed data is pretty much unheard of for prepaid, so if you use that much per month, I'd jump on that.
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A website called Fierce Wireless has reported that AT&T will start offering a new prepaid option starting as early as June. The plan will include unlimited voice and texts, plus 2GB of HSPA data, for $50 per month. Once you go over 2GB, you'd be throttled back to 2G. The Fierce Wireless report doesn't clarify if it's HSPA or HSPA+ (in other words, is it 3G or 3.5/4G?). They may offer a plan with 5GB of high-speed data for $70, though that's undecided.
You can read the entire article here: http://www.fiercewireless.com/story/att-planning-june-launch-all-one-prepaid-brand/2013-05-02
I've never heard of Fierce Wireless, so I don't know if they have a good reputation, but the report is very specific, talks about things happening in the very near future, and is about a subject most trolls would find too boring to make up a whole fake thing about. Also, The Verge, which I consider a reputable source, published a story about the Fierce Wireless piece without doubting its truth.
Even so, this sounds a little too good to be true. In comparison, here are the other deals you can get right now with AT&T prepaid or MVNO:
PureTalk USA: $44 unlimited voice and text, 1GB data, $10 per extra 100 MB overage
Straight Talk: $45 unlimited voice and text, ambiguous amount of high-speed data.
Net10: $50 unlimited voice and text, 1.5GB hard data cap
AT&T GoPhone: $50 250 minutes, unlimited text, 1 GB data
Red Pocket: $60 unlimited voice and text, 2GB hard data cap
Black Wireless: same as Red Pocket
H2O Wireless: same as Red Pocket
AT&T GoPhone: $65 unlimited voice and text, 1GB data
Every one of these plans has a severe disadvantage vs. the new rumored AT&T plan. It's no longer possible to buy Straight Talk SIM cards from their website, and many customers (including me) have been throttled at much lower data levels than ever recently. PureTalk looks like a good deal but has insanely expensive overage charges. The others are either the same price or more expensive than the rumored AT&T prepaid plan, and you have to pay for more data if you go over, rather than simply being throttled down to 2G. Note also that most MVNOs are known for having atrocious customer service.
The comparison is especially stark if you compare it to AT&T's postpaid plans:
450 minutes, unlimited texts, 3GB data: $90
unlimited minutes and texts, 3GB data: $120
That's a lot of money to pay for LTE data, more coverage in unpopulated areas, and a subsidized phone every two years.
If AT&T really does come out with the rumored data plan, and they do give you full speed HSPA+ data, it could put a lot of their MVNOs out of business. And I suspect it will start to cannibalize their lucrative postpaid business.
So my guess is, AT&T will hobble this plan somehow. Either your data will be throttled to 1Mb down, or you'll only get 500 MB or 1 GB of high speed, or the price will be higher. Nothing about the way their MVNOs have behaved recently tells me AT&T wants to make its prepaid offerings more attractive. But I hope I'm wrong with that prediction.
Sounds too good to be true. Guess time will tell. Thanks for the breakdown of mvno's, getting ready to look into one as soon as my contract ends in a couple months.
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If they did I would probably directly my parents there. Right now I am on straight talk with t mobile and while its better and much faster in Atlanta I don't know about their part of KC. But they already have AT&T so they know what they'd be getting.
Meh, ATT still sucks around here (socal) they have good coverage but they still have call quality issues so I'll stick with Tmo but bring on the competition.
If this is true I'll be all over it
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My ex-wife works at AT&T and says she's heard nothing about this to date. They usually get info around 30 days ahead of a released plan so if this is in the works, it's quite a ways under the radar. I would suspect it'd be more of a working memo that got released or something but, hey, who knows? It'd be great to see them all finally start competing on price!
Bump because new information in OP about confirmed plans.
This looks to me like an okay deal if you want presumably better service, 2GB of data guaranteed, and to be throttled rather than shut off if you go over.
The $70 plan for 7GB looks like a great deal if you use that much data.
$55 is a good price, direct from ATT, and they seem to be far more honest about what they are offering. I still don't like ATT but this is the right direction for them to be going.
Has anyone outside of the cities listed tried putting in a zip code from one of the listed cities and then just have it shipped to there address outside of that city?
I'm on straight talk and hardly use any data but yet I'm still constantly throttled to the point that it's not usable.
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Has anyone outside of the cities listed tried putting in a zip code from one of the listed cities and then just have it shipped to there address outside of that city?
I'm on straight talk and hardly use any data but yet I'm still constantly throttled to the point that it's not usable.
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ATT or Tmo on straight talk? I never got throttled on either SIM using over 1gb/mo but I'm curious what you are using.
What I'm wondering is if they'll throttle people for steaming like straight talk or if they'll be more like T-Mobile in the way that you can do whatever you want with your data until its used up.
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What I'm wondering is if they'll throttle people for steaming like straight talk or if they'll be more like T-Mobile in the way that you can do whatever you want with your data until its used up.
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We won't know for sure until people start actually using the service and report back, but their terms of service do not say anything about streaming. They do say no tethering, and of course they give themselves an escape clause that "unlimited does not mean unreasonable," and you can't do anything that congests the network too much.
http://source.aiowireless.com/legal-info/terms-and-conditions-of-service.html
I'd be very surprised if they banned streaming. I've only ever seen that from Straight Talk and other services owned by the same company. AT&T has often been accused of prioritizing their own customers over MVNO people when the network gets congested. I wonder if AIO customers will get any priority at all.
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ATT or Tmo on straight talk? I never got throttled on either SIM using over 1gb/mo but I'm curious what you are using.
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I have 500 minutes, unlimited text and unthrottled 4g LTE/HSPA+ data for 75/month from T-Mobile. Eff At&t prices. They do, however, have good coverage.
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They are supposed to be more stringent
I called yesterday and they told me I can get service even though I'm not in one of the 3 cities as long as I do it online or drive to a city with a store.
Doing it online isn't a problem but she told me that right now you can only port your number if you go into a store and that porting should be available online within a week.
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Has anyone outside of the cities listed tried putting in a zip code from one of the listed cities and then just have it shipped to there address outside of that city?
I'm on straight talk and hardly use any data but yet I'm still constantly throttled to the point that it's not usable.
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I did and it didn't work. I got some error telling me to enter a valid ZIP code for my city and state, weird.
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I did and it didn't work. I got some error telling me to enter a valid ZIP code for my city and state, weird.
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When it just asks for your zip code at the beginning put in 77002. Later it should allow you to put in your real zip code and address
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Is this just another mvno or is it directly from at&t. I couldnt find anything regarding roaming and whether or not these are treated like mvno or at&t prepaid. How do you guys expect this to function during peak hours? Since they cap the speed at 4mb/s does that mean they have the same priority as postpaid on at&t?
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When it just asks for your zip code at the beginning put in 77002. Later it should allow you to put in your real zip code and address
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That's exactly what I did. It won't let me order using my zip code. Either it's a site glitch or they really don't want people outside the test markets ordering.
Just trying to figure out if anyone had a previous 4G LTE plan prior to ordering the N5 and if its proved to be worth it or Not. Being New to that whole side of LTE things. How much GB allowance do you receive a month and average use total.
I have a 3G unlimited plan on O2 which are rare lately since 3 network is the only network that doesn't unlimited DAT at me moment.
Now the nexus 5 is 4G ready in the UK is it really worth chasing a 4G plan yet or wait because 3g works quite fine at moment with hotspots everywhere. Cheapest 4g plan is around £26 for 1gb I think. I didn't even mention 500mb cors that's just silly to even consider on 4G.
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In the same boat as yourself at the moment - (o2 simplicity with unlimited data)... Going to switch to giff-gaff (12 quid bundle) and wait it out and see whether 4G prices drop...
At the moment from what I can gather, EE have the monopoly coverage wise so hopefully when the competition kicks in prices will drop.
Certainly don't want to get tied into a long 4G contract at the moment to find high prices & crap coverage ruins the experience...
I'm currently on 3 with an iPhone 5. Going to stick with them if I get a Nexus 5. 2000 minutes, 5000 3-3 minutes, 5000 texts, Totally Unlimited data with unlimited tethering, and 4G at no extra cost in December, all for just £15 a month
As nellisere says, the best one for me is 3. 4g coming next month (very limited) and is cheap and reliable with excellent HSDPA coverage (left voda on my n4 after 8 months of crap service).
I'd look around
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4G isn't in my city yet so I won't be switching until that happens, obviously.
Three is the best for data.
Up to 20mb (10-15mb average) on 3G.
Truly unlimited for £12.90 a month.
And 4G will be free - no charge difference or plan changes.
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I think I'm going to leave Orange due to poor network coverage, and move to Three.
Nellisere - think I'll get that same plan that you're already on. is the unlimited tethering available for new customers do you know? I've looked on their website but can't find confirmation about that. Cheers.
Another vote for three from me, get great 3G (15 - 20 Mbps) and when 4G turns up it won't cost me any extra. Totally unlimited data as well, I recently used nearly a gigabyte while on holiday in Italy at no extra cost due to their "Feel At Home" deal.
Three is awesome
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My dad is on Vodafone and barely gets any decent signal on his S4 and all so I can't expect any better. 02 simplicity has been awesome for me. Only capped once. I'm waiting to see what they do then 3 week brings completion. I was using the n4 before never really bothered much before.
Seems like 3 is the one to watch but is EE coverage that good. Cors its definitely too pricey for me.
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Does anyone know if, when 3 changes to LTE in December, will the change in frequency improve penetration into buildings? I had heard somewhere that this would be the case but not really found any info (not looked properly yet to be honest!) Just got my n5 today (a beast!) And want to take advantage of LTE when it arrives, as well as Google music... can't really do so just now as it uses so much data.
Tried a 3 sim but not much use in my flat as the signal is non existent... on virgin "unlimited" but capped after 3.5GB, would love the option to have truly unlimited, LTE would be a bonus ..
Edit: sorry for changing the subject a wee bit - I use approx 2-3gb per month, but that's with me being careful... don't use the phone that much for Google music, but would deff use it more if I had unlimited!
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I will probably stay on Tesco network for 4G (but only upgrade when they have 4G in my city) for only £2.50 extra. Three is tempting but who knows when they will have 4G in my area - I can't imagine Plymouth is anywhere near their top priority list. Plus, I must keep my phone number and it'd be quite a hassle to switch networks while keeping same number. Then again, unlimited data would be great. I don't use 3G that much at the moment as WiFi is faster but that would change with 4G so I would appreciate unlimited data then! I may switch but I don't expect there will be 4G on any network in Plymouth for at least another year anyways.
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Does anyone know if, when 3 changes to LTE in December, will the change in frequency improve penetration into buildings? I had heard somewhere that this would be the case but not really found any info (not looked properly yet to be honest!) Just got my n5 today (a beast!) And want to take advantage of LTE when it arrives, as well as Google music... can't really do so just now as it uses so much data.
Tried a 3 sim but not much use in my flat as the signal is non existent... on virgin "unlimited" but capped after 3.5GB, would love the option to have truly unlimited, LTE would be a bonus ..
Edit: sorry for changing the subject a wee bit - I use approx 2-3gb per month, but that's with me being careful... don't use the phone that much for Google music, but would deff use it more if I had unlimited!
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I'm also with Three but I have to disagree with their 3G and HSDPA being lightning fast. There have been numerous occasions where I have had no signal in Central London! Also, at home (I live in London also), I get a speed of 5-6Mbps on my iPhone 5.
That said, I'm hoping their signals and speed improve. I certainly can't complain for unlimited data and tethering for £15.
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I think I'm going to leave Orange due to poor network coverage, and move to Three.
Nellisere - think I'll get that same plan that you're already on. is the unlimited tethering available for new customers do you know? I've looked on their website but can't find confirmation about that. Cheers.
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Tethering free only on The One plan. Ie £15pm 12month contract, or £18pm on 30 day rolling. I'm on the former and have no complaints with 3.
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I was once a happy T-Mobile customer for 24 months until September when I moved to giffgaff on the £10 goodybag. Wherever I was, I always seemed to have signal with T-Mobile, usually 3G or HSDPA most of the time.
Along with the great signal, my T-Mobile deal was simply brilliant: 600 minutes, 500 texts, Unlimited Internet and a free phone (a Wildfire S) for just £11 a month! It seemed however that T-Mobile did not care much for my custom as in the 25th month (after the 24 month offer) the price doubled to £22! I then quickly grabbed a PAC Code (surprisingly very easy) and switched to giffgaff.
However, since my Nexus 5 purchase, I'm looking for a 4G deal and Three is calling to me with it's '4G at no extra cost' promise. Can anyone on Three vouch for it's signal strength, stability and speed?
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I was once a happy T-Mobile customer for 24 months until September when I moved to giffgaff on the £10 goodybag. Wherever I was, I always seemed to have signal with T-Mobile, usually 3G or HSDPA most of the time.
Along with the great signal, my T-Mobile deal was simply brilliant: 600 minutes, 500 texts, Unlimited Internet and a free phone (a Wildfire S) for just £11 a month! It seemed however that T-Mobile did not care much for my custom as in the 25th month (after the 24 month offer) the price doubled to £22! I then quickly grabbed a PAC Code (surprisingly very easy) and switched to giffgaff.
However, since my Nexus 5 purchase, I'm looking for a 4G deal and Three is calling to me with it's '4G at no extra cost' promise. Can anyone on Three vouch for it's signal strength, stability and speed?
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No. As it's unlikely that we live, work and visit same areas as you. You have 7 days to cancel though. I've been all around London, Cambridge, Oxford and few other places and the only place that wasn't too good was Cambridge. Now and again you get a bad spot, but it's so small that it looks like a local issue with a mast rather than poor coverage.
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Arturnip it depends on location so where do you live? Personally I live in Plymouth and everywhere I go apart from forde valley and manedon main road I have excellent signal, it is more reliable than Orange/t-mobile/virgin from my personal experience (cant comment on O2 but family on vodafone and it seems terrible) and much faster for instance at my place of work I get 20mb/s with <90ms ping on Three but on T-mobile I got 8mb(same as Virgin) and on Orange I got 2mb with high ping, glad I left Orange as it was one of the worst and the most expensive! Currently paying £8.50 a month for one plan at Three due to some deals added together (12 month contract) so very happy as its cheap as chips, extremely fast and can only get better with FREE (or close to it...) 4g! Shame its arriving sometime next year and not now .
I'm happy enough with Three's DC-HSDPA speeds
Switch to Three! There 3G speeds are nuts I get around 15Mbit DL and 5Mbit UL. They are rolling out 4G over the next year or so and will not be charging extra for it, meaning if you have a 3G unlimited data plan you will still have unlimited data with 4G.
Three are the only UK provider that will offer unlimited 4G with no extra cost, madness when you compare what EE are offering.
I'm happy with three.
Also on the one plan unlimited internet and tethering for £15 a month is a steal! (Includes 4G when available also).
All depends on there coverage in the places you visit most and people can't tell you on here. Grab a sim (even PAYG) and try it. Can always cancel.
Here is my speeds and I don't exactly live in a high populated area. (Nottinghamshire)
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