I like to throw this out there to see if someone is willing to either help me or look at this him or herself. I'm posting this here only because I do not have permission to post in the developer sections. My idea is to do some thing similar to what ultrashot has done under this thread, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1410643 for Opera Mobile 10. Basically create a launcher app for either full unlocked or root tool unlocked WP 7.x devices to launch the zetakey webkit browser. It can be downloaded from http://www.zetakey.com/download.php . The zetakey browser has been tested on multiple devices using Qualcomm QSD8250 snapdragon SoC so hardware
architecturally should be fine. On the software side it been tested on CE6, CE7 and WM 6.5. This browser is using a Webkit version that scores 328 on the html5test. That's higher than IE9 and IE10. Zetakey Webkit browser was last updated on 11-19-12, so it looks like they are still developing and supporting it. Ultrashot, if you have a chance can you let me know if this is possible and how difficult would it be to do. Please don't feel pressure to respond if you don't want to.
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is there a way to port / recompile OpenOffice for Android?
There are a lot of good and great applications that are linux native out there.
I'm rather surprised we don't see more of those software like OpenOffice / FireFox / Thunderbird ported over for Android.
i was soooo looking forward to run those on my phone.
i know some groups are already working on a mobile version of firefox (Fennec), but there's no news about Thunderbird, and according to some stuff i read on the OpenOffice forum they don't seem very eager to port it to Android, as it took them a while to port it to MAC OS.
yet it's still a java based app... oh well...
at the moment i'm using "Docs To Go", not ideal, but it does for now, until OpenOffice comes aboard.
I've been using Docs To Go since my PalmOS days, is not bad, but is not great either.
docs to go seem to have worsen from palm to winmo to android. the android version is all flashy with smooth scrolling, pinch zoom etc but actual functionality is lacking. for eg; in the spreadsheet - editing is cumbersome, changing worksheets need few presses.
still looking for a good office suite/spreadsheet for android.
A lot of software like that is not written to run on low-powered systems (which an android phone clearly is compared to todays PCs) and Android lacks a lot of functionality that is present in complete linux kernels and so rewriting would take a major effort and few people would benefit from an open-office port (and even if, they would be minor since nobody will actually do a lot of office work on their phone).
AllGamer said:
is there a way to port / recompile OpenOffice for Android?
There are a lot of good and great applications that are linux native out there.
I'm rather surprised we don't see more of those software like OpenOffice / FireFox / Thunderbird ported over for Android.
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Unfortunately, Android is to Linux as Windows Mobile is to Windows 7. They're related, but not strictly intercompatible.
Android only really uses the Linux kernel. Practically none of the stuff that makes Linux recognisable as Linux to end-users. For Open Offic, Firefox etc to work as a simple port, you would need a whole bunch of extra stuff in Android that just isn't there. Of course, that's not stopping anyone from porting those things, but Android with X11, GTK and Gnome wouldn't really be Android anymore, would it?
Of course, I feel your pain.. I just want a simple text editor that can open and save .txt files, but I can't find one! Bah!
unfnknblvbl said:
Unfortunately, Android is to Linux as Windows Mobile is to Windows 7. They're related, but not strictly intercompatible.
Android only really uses the Linux kernel. Practically none of the stuff that makes Linux recognisable as Linux to end-users. For Open Offic, Firefox etc to work as a simple port, you would need a whole bunch of extra stuff in Android that just isn't there. Of course, that's not stopping anyone from porting those things, but Android with X11, GTK and Gnome wouldn't really be Android anymore, would it?
Of course, I feel your pain.. I just want a simple text editor that can open and save .txt files, but I can't find one! Bah!
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Linux IS only really the kernel.
kevo said:
Linux IS only really the kernel.
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Still, in this context it clearly refers to any desktop linux distribution. And that comprising isn't far off.
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It's been done
AndrOpen Office
Download: https://market.android.com/details?id=com.andropenoffice
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I thought I read somewhere that Adobe has created Flash 10.1 for every mobile platform except Apple iOS. I cannot seem to find a reference to that anymore.
Does anyone know what the status is on Flash 10.1 for Windows Mobile 6.5?
Skyfire supports Flash, but they seem to have stopped their Windows Mobile development at version 1.5. Version 2.0 for the iPhone is now in the App store, so the iPhone and Android can now do full Flash, but Windows Mobile seems to be stuck with Flash Lite.
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I thought I read somewhere that Adobe has created Flash 10.1 for every mobile platform except Apple iOS. I cannot seem to find a reference to that anymore.
Does anyone know what the status is on Flash 10.1 for Windows Mobile 6.5?
Skyfire supports Flash, but they seem to have stopped their Windows Mobile development at version 1.5. Version 2.0 for the iPhone is now in the App store, so the iPhone and Android can now do full Flash, but Windows Mobile seems to be stuck with Flash Lite.
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AFAIK, There is no adobe flash 10.1 for any mobile platform. Skyfire wanted iphone paid users over free WM users.
Download this browser... it is similar to skyfire..
http://www.uzard.com/en/down/download_windowsmobile.asp
For more details XDA discussion thread is:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=686879&highlight=uzardweb
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=704566&highlight=uzardweb
njoy flash with WM
Ravi
even the skyfire has stopped working after the iphone relase.
That uZard web browser is pretty interesting. It actually worked for www.mycokerewards.com. That page uses so much Flash that it gives most mobile browsers fits. It wouldn't allow me to zoom out to see more of the page. The default ratio could only be set to 100-200%. I'd love to set it to 80% so that I can see close to the entire web page and zoom in when needed.
By the way, Adobe Flash 10.1 is on the Android Marketplace and it's been downloaded over 1 million times. Early reports are that it works surprizingly well on a mobile phone. I wish it was out for Windows Mobile!
Using an iPhone or iPad with Frash 0.2 works pretty well except it doesn't do video. Skyfire 2.0 works very well on the iPhone. It runs on the iPad, but using iPhone resolution.
It appears that both uZard and Skyfire use a proxy server to render the pages and then download them to the device. While that gives you the functionality you want, it really slows down scolling and zooming. Skyfire seems to be fairly decent, but uZard was too slow for my taste. Web browsing shouldn't be painful. Hopefully they can better optimize it and then it should be pretty good. This was afterall a beta copy. The other issue with using proxies is that someone has to maintain a server farm for the browsers to work. That means they need to charge for the app to cover the cost of the infrastructure. I believe that Skyfire always planned on charging for their browser when it was out of beta even for Windows Mobile.
I would really like to be able to use Opera with Flash 10 on my Tilt 2.
Adobe killed further development of flash for Windows Mobile shortly after Microsoft's announcement in February that they were discontinuing 6.5 in favor of 7.
Unfortunately, there will be no further development. What we have now is all that winmo will ever get. Support or further development outside of XDA for anything winmo is highly unlikely going forward. That's just the way things are, sadly.
I dont think flash would even work well on our phones, they are just too slow. I've used Skyfire and it seems really choppy and all around not worth it.
I think it would run fine on our phones. The hardware specs on my iPhone 3GS are very close to my Tilt 2. Frash (the hacker developed version of Flash for jailbroken iPhones) works very well. The Rhodium should be able to do anything the iPhone 3GS can do with the right software.
Hopefully Adobe is working on Flash 10 for Windows Phone 7. I guess I'll have to upgrade some day. I'm waiting for HTC to release the right phone in the US. I like the HD2, but I'm an AT&T customer and the T-Mobile HD2 will only do 2G in the US when using AT&T because the T-Mobile radio hardware is setup for the T-Mobile frequencies. I need an AT&T version of something like the HD2 running Windows Phone 7.
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I dont think flash would even work well on our phones, they are just too slow. I've used Skyfire and it seems really choppy and all around not worth it.
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Skyfire doesn't (or didn't, since its not supported by the developer anymore) run Flash on the phone at all. Skyfire "transcodes" by rendering Flash content on the Skyfire server, then transmits images of that content to your phone. That is why Skyfire was so slow. This is also why iPhone users are going crazy over Skyfire right now. It allows Flash content to be displayed on the iPhone, when Flash is not supported at all by Apple.
There is no Flash 10.1 for Windows Mobile. It will come to Windows Phone 7 though probably early next year. At present, Flash 10.1 on mobile is already available on Android 2.2 and will probably come to BlackBerry Tablet OS next year.
Apart from Flash in the browser, Flash outside the browser (aka AIR) is in beta for Android 2.2 and probably BlackBerry Tablet OS next year. Indeed, the UI of BlackBerry Tablet OS was built with Flash.
i always think that Android is more powerful because it is open platform and so you can change source code and create custom rom while IOS you can't change source code and you can't modify OS. So even if you jailbreak the iPhone, there's not much you can do except unlock a few forbidden features and modify some playlists.
But then in another forum, i read this comment:
"Android will never be as powerful as Unix! iOS just scratches the surface of unix until root access allows full control. Android is just several java classes compiled into what you believe is an OS. Android will never be more than glorified embedded software....which is why it is buggy as Hell!"
I always think Android can do things IOS can't via custom ROMS, mods, but his comment suggests otherwise. I am a tech noob, can the Masters out there help me a bit? Thanks
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A)this has nothing to do with the note so shouldnt be here
B)considering android is a linux based os and linux is based unix i really dont see where the quote is coming from. And without defining what you mean by powerful no one can help
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iOS merely seems more powerful and stable simply because it is like custom software tailored to custom hardware. It is designed to work with specific internal hardware. Android, on the other hand, has to work with a myriad of generic devices and thus cannot be as optimized as Ios. That is why android devices must have higher specs and be more powerful than the iphone in order to compete with the efficiency of apple's os (brute force vs efficiency).
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Its never been and it will never be.
And Its not the right forum to asking for the comparision. I think. Ask in Android or IOS forums. They will answer your questions in better way.
Raymond Chong said:
i always think that Android is more powerful because it is open platform and so you can change source code and create custom rom while IOS you can't change source code and you can't modify OS. So even if you jailbreak the iPhone, there's not much you can do except unlock a few forbidden features and modify some playlists.
But then in another forum, i read this comment:
"Android will never be as powerful as Unix! iOS just scratches the surface of unix until root access allows full control. Android is just several java classes compiled into what you believe is an OS. Android will never be more than glorified embedded software....which is why it is buggy as Hell!"
I always think Android can do things IOS can't via custom ROMS, mods, but his comment suggests otherwise. I am a tech noob, can the Masters out there help me a bit? Thanks
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You have a note and you are wondering whether ios is more powerful than android?? It's a sad day for humankind!
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I feel like ios is stable than android
But coming to features,android is far better than ios
Android is totally customizable
I feel android is stable enough for my(every android user) use and so why ios??
Raymond Chong said:
i always think that Android is more powerful because it is open platform and so you can change source code and create custom rom while IOS you can't change source code and you can't modify OS. So even if you jailbreak the iPhone, there's not much you can do except unlock a few forbidden features and modify some playlists.
But then in another forum, i read this comment:
"Android will never be as powerful as Unix! iOS just scratches the surface of unix until root access allows full control. Android is just several java classes compiled into what you believe is an OS. Android will never be more than glorified embedded software....which is why it is buggy as Hell!"
I always think Android can do things IOS can't via custom ROMS, mods, but his comment suggests otherwise. I am a tech noob, can the Masters out there help me a bit? Thanks
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damn! you've been watching too many scifi movies haven't you?
your confused my young 'padawan' friend.... the dark side clouds everything in you.. The fear of doubt leads to the dark side my young padawan friend... cloud your mind do not...
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Go to an iOS forum, and ask the same question and see the reply you get. 99% of responses will be just the opposite of
the ones here.
Thread heading no where, Closed and Thank you.
There are a lot of threads abut Ubuntu and other Linux distros. I was wondering if anyone has tried to port ChromiumOS (or something of the sort) to it.
I did fine this but not sure its helpful.
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There are a lot of threads abut Ubuntu and other Linux distros. I was wondering if anyone has tried to port ChromiumOS (or something of the sort) to it.
I did fine this but not sure its helpful.
Thanks
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Possible definitely. I'm not sure what the advantages would be over Android though.
Ubuntu adds functionality, ChromeOS doesn't. That's why Ubuntu ports are common, it isn't just another browser that Android already provides.
Chromium OS doesn't have a Virtual Keyboard so it's pointless on a tablet anyway...
Chrome and Chromium OS would look and feel cool.
But as others have said limited functionalities such as apps, no v keys, and plus precious coding time.
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I know Chrome OS is limited, and although it is, it would be an interesting task to try, but would Chrome OS work on the Touchpad's armel processor? Because I know the Samsung Chromebook's Exynos processor is armhf, and I think Chromium OS does have an armel branch available, I haven't seen any armel based devices being able to run Chrom* OS.
Also recompiling drivers for a limited OS like Chrom* OS would probably be a lot harder than more common OSes. If someone does decide to make a build, it can't be distributed freely as plugins that Google has included are illegal to distribute publicly (like GApps on custom Android roms), so no Flash.
I have looking for opensuse builds and have not seen any. It would be nice if there was a boot loader like grub for the tp
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Was curious if anyone one has looked into dual booting on this device. Like Firefox OS and Android. If no one has checked into ill will when i get my phone back friday. If its not possible then maybe ill just try porting Firefox OS for our device. Already looked into the firefox porting and doesnt look like it will be that hard to get it on our devices. however i still prefer dualboot if possible.
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Was curious if anyone one has looked into dual booting on this device. Like Firefox OS and Android. If no one has checked into ill will when i get my phone back friday. If its not possible then maybe ill just try porting Firefox OS for our device. Already looked into the firefox porting and doesnt look like it will be that hard to get it on our devices. however i still prefer dualboot if possible.
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Would be nice but I don't think its possible, but there was something in the galaxy s thread about it so idk.maybe talk to camcory about it.
Ya that's what gave me the idea about doing it for our phones. I wait on asking camroy til i get my phone in and get at least a native port of Firefox OS before worrying the dual boot part for now. Plus I'll have to test the port and see whats majorly broken and what is not. Worse case I know i can take a different approach and do like I did back in the day with my windows mobile 2003 phone and have it on the sdcard. So you start up like normal into (for this case just saying how the windows mobile/android boot worked) Windows Mobile. Then launch an app that shuts down windows mobile completely to free up resources then it boots up android GB (when i did this) from sdcard. It really wasn't hard to get it to do that. So i don't see why we couldn't do the same for this phone but Android and Firefox OS. Least the brighter side of using android and firefox is that they both are made for the same hardware where compared to my windows mobile phone it ran an xscale cpu ( Windows only cpu ). So it shouldn't feel slower than what it would by it's self. Android just wasn't made for intel xscale cpus.
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Ya that's what gave me the idea about doing it for our phones. I wait on asking camroy til i get my phone in and get at least a native port of Firefox OS before worrying the dual boot part for now. Plus I'll have to test the port and see whats majorly broken and what is not. Worse case I know i can take a different approach and do like I did back in the day with my windows mobile 2003 phone and have it on the sdcard. So you start up like normal into (for this case just saying how the windows mobile/android boot worked) Windows Mobile. Then launch an app that shuts down windows mobile completely to free up resources then it boots up android GB (when i did this) from sdcard. It really wasn't hard to get it to do that. So i don't see why we couldn't do the same for this phone but Android and Firefox OS. Least the brighter side of using android and firefox is that they both are made for the same hardware where compared to my windows mobile phone it ran an xscale cpu ( Windows only cpu ). So it shouldn't feel slower than what it would by it's self. Android just wasn't made for intel xscale cpus.
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Well the s4 has dual boot and HTC is capable and what i was reading in the galaxy s forum it looks like i might be capable. And for firefox i see in the nexus s the camera and bluetooth doesnt work but i think cam has fixes for that so i guess youll find out once you compile the rom. If you need help with testing or anything let me know I'd be happy to help.
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Well the s4 has dual boot and HTC is capable and what i was reading in the galaxy s forum it looks like i might be capable. And for firefox i see in the nexus s the camera and bluetooth doesnt work but i think cam has fixes for that so i guess youll find out once you compile the rom. If you need help with testing or anything let me know I'd be happy to help.
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Well got my phone back already got AOIP on it and been testing out the device its self to make sure it wasn't defective and its not. So now I'm gonna start working the firefox os port with in the next few days. its been quite a while since I've done any programing and what not so not promising anything but I will definitely try. So bare with me on progress. Any how I know we can run firefox os on our phones. according to Mozilla ]https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Firefox_OS/Introduction hardware requirements is arm6 cortex5 or better cortex 7 with neon, adreno 200. then the rest is standard wifi/3g gps and others like that. So yeah its possible. its just building the rom and fixing device specific bugs. Also yeah I wouldn't mind having internal beta testers when i get to that point. Just glad mozilla has a lot of useful resources on porting it.
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Well got my phone back already got AOIP on it and been testing out the device its self to make sure it wasn't defective and its not. So now I'm gonna start working the firefox os port with in the next few days. its been quite a while since I've done any programing and what not so not promising anything but I will definitely try. So bare with me on progress. Any how I know we can run firefox os on our phones. according to Mozilla ]https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Firefox_OS/Introduction hardware requirements is arm6 cortex5 or better cortex 7 with neon, adreno 200. then the rest is standard wifi/3g gps and others like that. So yeah its possible. its just building the rom and fixing device specific bugs. Also yeah I wouldn't mind having internal beta testers when i get to that point. Just glad mozilla has a lot of useful resources on porting it.
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Best of luck.