I thought I read somewhere that Adobe has created Flash 10.1 for every mobile platform except Apple iOS. I cannot seem to find a reference to that anymore.
Does anyone know what the status is on Flash 10.1 for Windows Mobile 6.5?
Skyfire supports Flash, but they seem to have stopped their Windows Mobile development at version 1.5. Version 2.0 for the iPhone is now in the App store, so the iPhone and Android can now do full Flash, but Windows Mobile seems to be stuck with Flash Lite.
DonS said:
I thought I read somewhere that Adobe has created Flash 10.1 for every mobile platform except Apple iOS. I cannot seem to find a reference to that anymore.
Does anyone know what the status is on Flash 10.1 for Windows Mobile 6.5?
Skyfire supports Flash, but they seem to have stopped their Windows Mobile development at version 1.5. Version 2.0 for the iPhone is now in the App store, so the iPhone and Android can now do full Flash, but Windows Mobile seems to be stuck with Flash Lite.
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AFAIK, There is no adobe flash 10.1 for any mobile platform. Skyfire wanted iphone paid users over free WM users.
Download this browser... it is similar to skyfire..
http://www.uzard.com/en/down/download_windowsmobile.asp
For more details XDA discussion thread is:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=686879&highlight=uzardweb
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=704566&highlight=uzardweb
njoy flash with WM
Ravi
even the skyfire has stopped working after the iphone relase.
That uZard web browser is pretty interesting. It actually worked for www.mycokerewards.com. That page uses so much Flash that it gives most mobile browsers fits. It wouldn't allow me to zoom out to see more of the page. The default ratio could only be set to 100-200%. I'd love to set it to 80% so that I can see close to the entire web page and zoom in when needed.
By the way, Adobe Flash 10.1 is on the Android Marketplace and it's been downloaded over 1 million times. Early reports are that it works surprizingly well on a mobile phone. I wish it was out for Windows Mobile!
Using an iPhone or iPad with Frash 0.2 works pretty well except it doesn't do video. Skyfire 2.0 works very well on the iPhone. It runs on the iPad, but using iPhone resolution.
It appears that both uZard and Skyfire use a proxy server to render the pages and then download them to the device. While that gives you the functionality you want, it really slows down scolling and zooming. Skyfire seems to be fairly decent, but uZard was too slow for my taste. Web browsing shouldn't be painful. Hopefully they can better optimize it and then it should be pretty good. This was afterall a beta copy. The other issue with using proxies is that someone has to maintain a server farm for the browsers to work. That means they need to charge for the app to cover the cost of the infrastructure. I believe that Skyfire always planned on charging for their browser when it was out of beta even for Windows Mobile.
I would really like to be able to use Opera with Flash 10 on my Tilt 2.
Adobe killed further development of flash for Windows Mobile shortly after Microsoft's announcement in February that they were discontinuing 6.5 in favor of 7.
Unfortunately, there will be no further development. What we have now is all that winmo will ever get. Support or further development outside of XDA for anything winmo is highly unlikely going forward. That's just the way things are, sadly.
I dont think flash would even work well on our phones, they are just too slow. I've used Skyfire and it seems really choppy and all around not worth it.
I think it would run fine on our phones. The hardware specs on my iPhone 3GS are very close to my Tilt 2. Frash (the hacker developed version of Flash for jailbroken iPhones) works very well. The Rhodium should be able to do anything the iPhone 3GS can do with the right software.
Hopefully Adobe is working on Flash 10 for Windows Phone 7. I guess I'll have to upgrade some day. I'm waiting for HTC to release the right phone in the US. I like the HD2, but I'm an AT&T customer and the T-Mobile HD2 will only do 2G in the US when using AT&T because the T-Mobile radio hardware is setup for the T-Mobile frequencies. I need an AT&T version of something like the HD2 running Windows Phone 7.
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I dont think flash would even work well on our phones, they are just too slow. I've used Skyfire and it seems really choppy and all around not worth it.
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Skyfire doesn't (or didn't, since its not supported by the developer anymore) run Flash on the phone at all. Skyfire "transcodes" by rendering Flash content on the Skyfire server, then transmits images of that content to your phone. That is why Skyfire was so slow. This is also why iPhone users are going crazy over Skyfire right now. It allows Flash content to be displayed on the iPhone, when Flash is not supported at all by Apple.
There is no Flash 10.1 for Windows Mobile. It will come to Windows Phone 7 though probably early next year. At present, Flash 10.1 on mobile is already available on Android 2.2 and will probably come to BlackBerry Tablet OS next year.
Apart from Flash in the browser, Flash outside the browser (aka AIR) is in beta for Android 2.2 and probably BlackBerry Tablet OS next year. Indeed, the UI of BlackBerry Tablet OS was built with Flash.
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I know that there is no OFFICIAL Flash Player for the MyTouch yet (come on October), but I was wondering if anyone made any kind of app that enables me to watch flash movies on my phone? Sorry for the noobish question, have a great day.
As far as I know not unless you root your phone and Flash a Hero Rom onto it. That has flash, but other than that, (from what I hear), They are supposed to release a flash 10 beta for android that we can use, It's almost October now bro, not too much longer, Trust me I can't wait either. Let's just hope they don't delay it's release or some crap. :::Crosses Fingers::::::::
The Adobe MAX tradeshow opened in Los Angeles this week, the Flash Player 10.1 for mobile devices was one of the big announcements. The full press release from yesterday is here:
http://www.adobe.com/aboutadobe/pressroom/pressreleases/200910/100509AFPforMobileDevicesandPCs.html
But I'll highlight one unfortunate (for us myTouch users) line from the first paragraph (my bold/italics):
LOS ANGELES — Oct. 5, 2009 — Adobe Systems Incorporated (Nasdaq:ADBE) today unveiled Adobe® Flash® Player 10.1 software for smartphones, smartbooks, netbooks, PCs and other Internet-connected devices, allowing content created using the Adobe Flash Platform to reach users wherever they are. A public developer beta of the browser-based runtime is expected to be available for Windows® Mobile, Palm® webOS and desktop operating systems including Windows, Macintosh and Linux later this year. Public betas for Google® Android™ and Symbian® OS are expected to be available in early 2010. In addition, Adobe and RIM announced a joint collaboration to bring Flash Player to Blackberry® smartphones, and Google joined close to 50 other industry players in the Open Screen Project initiative.
Well I guess Ill be waiting till JanuAry for my netflix
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Well I guess Ill be waiting till JanuAry for my netflix
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Netflix plays in flash? I thought it used Silverlight.
If anything this would allow Hulu to run. I doubt the phone will be able to handle that size a stream though.
Yeah, silverlight... My bad.. When I posted that I think I was thinking Hulu... dunno
You know, Microsoft and HTC agreed to back each other up over HTC Windows/Android handsets (since they have been partners for a long time) over the Apple sh*tfight over the 21 stolen patents from the iPhone. In my personal opinion, I think Microsoft in a way is starting to realize that Android may be a interesting platform to tinker with.
Why am I saying this? Well, I've got a HTC Tattoo. And a HTC Snap. AzusaROM on one, 3VO WM6.5 ROM on the other. They both talk to each other and exchange 1s and 0s happily. I look at my HTC Snap, and Microsoft really made WM6.5 perform nicely.
Still, the Windows Phone platform (WinMo 6.x/WP7) may be on the verge of dying, but I think if Microsoft plays around with Android a tad, they could tap into a world of possibilities. ActiveSync for Android? Microsoft Office for Android? etc etc.
For example, let's say Microsoft takes a poke in Android, and builds a Windows UI for Android. Not that it would happen, let's just imagine it. It would be a Aero-like Windows Phone 7 UI running on top of a Android Kernel either provided by HTC or compiled by Microsoft themselves. You'd still have the Windows compatibility layer, but you could run Windows/Android apps natively. And have the sexy UI goodness that would deglamour the iPhone. Don't like the Aero UI? Press the "Disable" button and poof, you're back to the Nexus One Launcher.
I know I'm possibly dreaming or you think I've lost my marbles, but hey, just my two cents from my point of view.
Personally, Windows Mobile is horribly ugly to me. As is Symbian and all other mobile platforms. The ONLY one that ever caught my eye was Android. It's the first smart phone I've ever owned, next to a BlackBerry which isn't even really a smart phone in my book, just because it actually has a nice UI.
Android is just so.... slim and sleek. WinMo seems to bulky and compacted for me.
That's just thinking at it from the UI point. Can't really say what they would do with compatibilities. Honestly, can't rate too much on ANY features. Never owned a phone with Windows Mobile.
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Personally, Windows Mobile is horribly ugly to me.
Android is just so.... slim and sleek. WinMo seems to bulky and compacted for me.
That's just thinking at it from the UI point. Can't really say what they would do with compatibilities. Honestly, can't rate too much on ANY features. Never owned a phone with Windows Mobile.
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Ummm win mo is equally sleek and wasy if your talking in phone terms then Hd-2 is slimmer than your android phone
hell no, they will kill each other before first round
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google and microsoft cant cooperate
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REALLY!?!?!? I mean, REALLY?!?!?!?!?! Look at the date.
MS alreqdy make more money from android than they do from WP7 so they are well aware of the lucrative market available.
Thing is, if they were to release Office for android it would kill WP7 off as it would signal a lack of faith in their own mobile OS.
So we would either have to wait for MS to give up on the mobile OS game, or for WP7/8 to get enough of a market share that developing for android would cause no harm.
ROFL at the ancient bump... good job.
I'm gonna get flamed really bad for this but I think android should go smoothly with osx ( apple computers)
That'd a good combo IMO.
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Is there any cooked windows mobile ROM for this phone, i9000?
does anyone know if Samsung will release ROMs for Galaxy with WM7?
This doesn't make any sense. Why would on install wm on the GS? Just get an HD2 or wait for a WM7 device.
Lol this is too funny.
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The problem is you are not likely to find support for anyone doing this for 2 main reasons.
1) Most people prefer Android.
2) It would be illegal, Windows Mobile has a licencing fee that was not paid for with your phone. (You see Android ports on WM phones because Android is free, it isn't allowed the other way around)
So you should not maintain any hope that it will never happen.
Samsung has other phones in the works that will support Windows mobile. They've just announced a blackberry styled windows mobile at the commincaAsia conference this year.
I highly doubt their windows mobile line will come any where close to what their Galaxy (Android) family.
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Is there any cooked windows mobile ROM for this phone, i9000?
does anyone know if Samsung will release ROMs for Galaxy with WM7?
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Cooked windows mobile ROM for Galaxy S i9000 will be performed in the future.
Can't believe that people still wants Windows mobile, I'm currently stuck with windows mobile and i get frustrated every day. Waiting for my Galaxy S to arrive =)
Like to microsoft use the the galaxy s as a test device for wm7?
Like how they are doing with the i8910 Omnia HD.
I think it would be interesting to see how it performs with the hardware in the SGS. I do miss some of me apps on me Touch hd which is why I've kept it, tomtom for 1 and its easier to get flash support (cant wait for Froyo).
Also easier to change the system setting such as the bluetooth's minimum bitpool coz my sgs sounds rubbish in the car.
Wait for WM for SGS????
Wait for WM for SGS???? Don't hold your breath... LOL
(Running WM in SGS is like putting a "fiat punto" engine in a ferrari...)
Why would someone want something as outdated as WM? This OS is dead. WM7 is years behind Android...
I've been using WM for the last 7 years. My last WM phone was a Omnia 2 - The phone is great but I regret so much investing money in a device which OS is no longer supported by Microsoft... My only hope is Android for my WM phone.
Why you ask ? For the fun of it, of course !
Of course WM is outdated, but it's be "fun" to play with it on the Galaxy S, that's all ^^
Prot windows mobile 7 on i9000
Hi. I am makeing a new open boot loader for galaxy. Ill upload a source soon
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This should be interesting!
Can WinMo actually be ported to other devices? I read somewhere that this is next to impossible since WinMo is closed.
Im guessing youre not spamming. Since youre registered since 2007.
I wonder how to make all the drivers? Although I've heard rumors that a SGS similiar device is coming for win mo. 7 so those could be used I guess.
*sigh* Closed source probably isn't a problem. If anything, it can actually be a good thing sometimes. It only generally benefits those who want to modify the core of a system (because it isn't extendible enough), or security patches.
For instance, even on Windows, IFS allows EXT3/EXT4 drivers to be developed without Windows source code, and Microsoft have actually evolved past Linux in regards to backwards compatibility (you don't need to recompile their modules every kernel release).
What's important is that the OS is designed for ARM, and their driver development SDK is comprehensive enough. So is it?
Right now im just makeing open bootloader to make it actually run. Else for drivers and all we need more developers. And this will take time
As i have gone through loader can be run since i have access to read n write on nand.
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Where is it? I can't wait any more....
i would rather NOT run WM in my SGS
it'll defeat the whole purpose of getting the SGS
However if we can do Dual Boot, then it'll be intersting to play around with WM7 on the SGS
Since i have many programs that i still can't find replacement for in Android
it'll be handy to be able to Dual Boot to WM to run the old software
So this summer I was going to build a carputer with a kit that I already have, similar to this :
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Seeing that the new windows 8 metro style UI looks to be very touch screen friendly. I just have to find a double DIN friendly touch screen. And the board that I got has 5 CH audio output that I would just run into a 4 channel amp for my speakers.
Then I started thinking that I like the android tablet idea because I am more familiar with it and I can BT from a tablet to my phone to use internet and GPS functions and that would be titties, only downfall was that I would only have 2CH of audio split into two to get my 4CH, that and every 7" tablet that fits a double DIN hole is pretty weak, but could work.
Then I found this effer:
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Seems to be everything I wanted, just not sure on sound quality or how well the systems integrations work... that and I get to do no customization and building myself.
I already have a double DIN touch screen dvd car stereo but it lacks navigation and Bluetooth capability.
Dunno whats better.
Probably Windows 8.
Android is just not an OS meant for something beyond phones, if you want something touch friendly on a larger scale, the tiny icons of ICS on a tab aren't it while driving. Windows 8 is info at a glance, just like windows phone. Given the option, I'd take the OS that seems to be suited for the job, GPS/BT link to your phone would still work given the right programs on win8
i think android
If it runs google music in terms of music, it would be good. Android can also offer FM radio if the device supports it, and I don't think Windows 8 does that
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Android. Simply because it is much more flexible than W8. IMHO.
So although the stock Android might not be as touch friendly, you can always make it touch friendly.
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Android. Simply because it is much more flexible than W8. IMHO.
So although the stock Android might not be as touch friendly, you can always make it touch friendly.
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but you can't make it AS touch friendly, you can either get something, customize it, and still have a half-finished product, or get something that just works.
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but you can't make it AS touch friendly, you can either get something, customize it, and still have a half-finished product, or get something that just works.
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That's the thing. It won't. not with all the inevitable BSOD and license agreement prompts while you're trying to find your way through traffic.
Android it much more flexible, no matter what your marketing department has to say about it.
As long as its not the arm version of windows 8, which won't run older windows software, I think windows 8 is better choice. It will run lots of the very good pre existing windows software and be compatible with additional hardware you might want to add later such as wireless controls and screens etc.
Android is a good choice but for op's needs windows 8 is probably better.
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For the time being I would say android, mostly because Windows 8 is young and there aren't many (mature) apps you could use effectively for the purposes you want.
However, I believe a year (maybe a bit more) from now, Windows 8 tablets should be on par with android and when you think about all these Windows 8 non-tablet apps you could also run, Win8 will be the way to go.
TL;DR Android for a year, switch to Windows 8 later if you want comfort. Or just skip android and get Windows device.
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That's the thing. It won't. not with all the inevitable BSOD and license agreement prompts while you're trying to find your way through traffic.
Android it much more flexible, no matter what your marketing department has to say about it.
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I haven't had a bsod since vista, I don't think many have. Bringing up old issues to argue about a new OS is foolish. Here's some relevant android issues, lag, not touch friendly on a big screen, fragmentation, stability.
There will be more possibilities with Windows 8, but atm Windows 8 have to much bugs. For now better choice is android, for the future win8.
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but you can't make it AS touch friendly, you can either get something, customize it, and still have a half-finished product, or get something that just works.
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The guy wants to put a tablet in his car...you think he is worried about customizing?? Please stop the madness. Even on the most beta of ROM's you have working GPS, music, games, and bluetooth. What more do you need? Also I don't know how much you follow Android, but there was just a HUGE breakthrough in per app DPI that would make customizing a tablet for a situation like this super easy.
Windows 8 would be more car friendly due to the massive buttons, but Android has less bugs, and Windows 8 isn't out yet. Android for now, Windows 8 when it's out for longer.
What makes you think android has less bugs? Really...
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What makes you think android has less bugs? Really...
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What makes you think android lags?
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Windows 8 would be more car friendly due to the massive buttons, but Android has less bugs, and Windows 8 isn't out yet. Android for now, Windows 8 when it's out for longer.
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How do you know Andriod has "less bugs" when Windows 8 isn't even out yet?
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not with all the inevitable BSOD and license agreement prompts while you're trying to find your way through traffic.
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BSOD and license agreement prompts?! Are you using a pirated copy of Windows 98? I have Windows 7 64 bit and the ONLY time I ever saw a BSOD was with a new third party piece of hardware that had buggy firmware. Pulled that out of my case and never saw anything like that again.
Android, car mode, Done.
Windows 8 on a small board? Probably will have to be the RT version and it'll have to be pirated. Even then you don't know what all will work.
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I haven't had a bsod since vista, I don't think many have. Bringing up old issues to argue about a new OS is foolish. Here's some relevant android issues, lag, not touch friendly on a big screen, fragmentation, stability.
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You always get a bee in your bonnet about android lagging but ignoring that, as you never listen to anyone who says otherwise, even if it were not touch friendly on a big screen just how big a screen do you expect it to be using in a car? It wouldn't be a problem even if it were true, though I would like to see sources backing up that claim of not being touch friendly.
Stability? Seriously? You do realise android phones can be left on indefinitely without becoming unstable so how can stability be an issue?
I actually agree windows makes more sense but I do think your mistaken in your view of android.
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If the Car-PC you are getting is x86... go for Windows 8
if it's an ARM based computer... go Android
Best keep it native right?
I like to throw this out there to see if someone is willing to either help me or look at this him or herself. I'm posting this here only because I do not have permission to post in the developer sections. My idea is to do some thing similar to what ultrashot has done under this thread, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1410643 for Opera Mobile 10. Basically create a launcher app for either full unlocked or root tool unlocked WP 7.x devices to launch the zetakey webkit browser. It can be downloaded from http://www.zetakey.com/download.php . The zetakey browser has been tested on multiple devices using Qualcomm QSD8250 snapdragon SoC so hardware
architecturally should be fine. On the software side it been tested on CE6, CE7 and WM 6.5. This browser is using a Webkit version that scores 328 on the html5test. That's higher than IE9 and IE10. Zetakey Webkit browser was last updated on 11-19-12, so it looks like they are still developing and supporting it. Ultrashot, if you have a chance can you let me know if this is possible and how difficult would it be to do. Please don't feel pressure to respond if you don't want to.
Great idea