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[REQ] Flash 10.1

Hey does anyone know where I can get flash 10.1, because I wanna test it out and try to integrate it into one of my new roms...thanks for any help.

stupidest thread ive read in a while right here
answer to your question here:
http://tinyurl.com/yfevdeg

There is no Flash 10.1 at this point!

o rly?

seaweeduk said:
stupidest thread ive read in a while right here
answer to your question here:
http://tinyurl.com/yfevdeg
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Thanks for that, i appreciate that. I already did that and found nothing, I was just wondering if anyone here had the beta or whatever is out because I figured that someone here would have this.

If someone had a beta of Flash 10 for Android, you can bet that people would be shouting from rooftops about it.
I think it's going to make an already slow phone even slower.

bassbox said:
There is no Flash 10.1 at this point!
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there is no flash 10 period for android yet, the flash included with hero roms is flash 9 or 8

Who Said there is no Flash 10.1
Becuase Starting from Flash 10.1 Adobe have Open Sourced it
http://www.openscreenproject.org/
Read the Article and u will know the Future
http://www.adobe.com/aboutadobe/pressroom/pressreleases/200910/100509AFPforMobileDevicesandPCs.html
http://www.openscreenproject.org/theme/ssi/david_wadhwani.html

i found the flash, see here he is
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"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
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It doesn't say anything about being open source.
Flash is not and likely will never become open source.
There are a couple of open source flash-wannabe projects, but neither really works... i.e. gnash and swfdec.
It would be really nice if flash would just DIE already. It is a huge resource hog and offers nothing that can't be offered in a more efficient and practical way.... i.e. flash videos? What's wrong with REGULAR videos? Any decent media player can be embedded in a web browser to play those things!
hetaldp said:
Who Said there is no Flash 10.1
Becuase Starting from Flash 10.1 Adobe have Open Sourced it
http://www.openscreenproject.org/
Read the Article and u will know the Future
http://www.adobe.com/aboutadobe/pressroom/pressreleases/200910/100509AFPforMobileDevicesandPCs.html
http://www.openscreenproject.org/theme/ssi/david_wadhwani.html
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hetaldp said:
Who Said there is no Flash 10.1
Becuase Starting from Flash 10.1 Adobe have Open Sourced it
http://www.openscreenproject.org/
Read the Article and u will know the Future
http://www.adobe.com/aboutadobe/pressroom/pressreleases/200910/100509AFPforMobileDevicesandPCs.html
http://www.openscreenproject.org/theme/ssi/david_wadhwani.html
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there is no flash 10.1 currently for android. there are plans for the future,but we are talking about now
beta hasnt been released yet

lbcoder said:
It doesn't say anything about being open source.
Flash is not and likely will never become open source.
There are a couple of open source flash-wannabe projects, but neither really works... i.e. gnash and swfdec.
It would be really nice if flash would just DIE already. It is a huge resource hog and offers nothing that can't be offered in a more efficient and practical way.... i.e. flash videos? What's wrong with REGULAR videos? Any decent media player can be embedded in a web browser to play those things!
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i wanna do something like that with a webpage if you know of a media player that can be embedded that would work on a smart phone would be a big help

brian_v3ntura said:
there is no flash 10.1 currently for android. there are plans for the future,but we are talking about now
beta hasnt been released yet
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Yea it just looks like the beta is only for the PRE and windows mobile, I cant wait for this to come out for android...

adewey234 said:
Yea it just looks like the beta is only for the PRE and windows mobile, I cant wait for this to come out for android...
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i'd be happy if we even had 9 besides hero

superg05 said:
i'd be happy if we even had 9 besides hero
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Yea seriously, that would be awesome...

Don't worry, Adobe announced that they would release the beta by the end of this month anyway

jroid said:
Don't worry, Adobe announced that they would release the beta by the end of this month anyway
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i though engadget reported we wont get it till 2010 let me check cause they did say October

http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/05/flash-10-1-announced-for-just-about-anything-with-a-screen-webo/
Flash 10 already supports HD video on the desktop, but 10.1 -- announced this week at Adobe's MAX conference in Los Angeles -- is being billed the first to really reap the full benefits of the Open Screen Project by unifying feature sets across a wide variety of platforms on the desktop, the laptop, and the pocket. As usual, Windows, Mac, and Linux will all get hooked up with the latest release, but public betas of 10.1 for Windows Mobile and webOS will be hitting before the end of the year as well followed by Android and Symbian in "early" 2010. RIM's also gotten official with its rumored membership in the Open Screen Project, though the lack of a timeline for 10.1 support in BlackBerry OS is a stark reminder of the long technical road that lies ahead for Waterloo as it tries to match the smartphone competition tit-for-tat in the multimedia space. At the end of the day, mobile Flash means nothing without the horsepower to properly drive it, so let's hope that Tegra, Snapdragon, and next-generation architectures like OMAP4 start to come on board en masse just as these builds come out of beta.
Speaking of fast chipsets, the other big news out of the show is that Flash 10.1 will take advantage of GPU acceleration on a number of key mobile platforms, including both nVidia's Tegra and Qualcomm's Snapdragon alongside ION for smooth (well, theoretically smooth) 720p and 1080p video on the latest generation of netbooks and smartbooks.

superg05 said:
http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/05/flash-10-1-announced-for-just-about-anything-with-a-screen-webo/
Flash 10 already supports HD video on the desktop, but 10.1 -- announced this week at Adobe's MAX conference in Los Angeles -- is being billed the first to really reap the full benefits of the Open Screen Project by unifying feature sets across a wide variety of platforms on the desktop, the laptop, and the pocket. As usual, Windows, Mac, and Linux will all get hooked up with the latest release, but public betas of 10.1 for Windows Mobile and webOS will be hitting before the end of the year as well followed by Android and Symbian in "early" 2010. RIM's also gotten official with its rumored membership in the Open Screen Project, though the lack of a timeline for 10.1 support in BlackBerry OS is a stark reminder of the long technical road that lies ahead for Waterloo as it tries to match the smartphone competition tit-for-tat in the multimedia space. At the end of the day, mobile Flash means nothing without the horsepower to properly drive it, so let's hope that Tegra, Snapdragon, and next-generation architectures like OMAP4 start to come on board en masse just as these builds come out of beta.
Speaking of fast chipsets, the other big news out of the show is that Flash 10.1 will take advantage of GPU acceleration on a number of key mobile platforms, including both nVidia's Tegra and Qualcomm's Snapdragon alongside ION for smooth (well, theoretically smooth) 720p and 1080p video on the latest generation of netbooks and smartbooks.
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if a tegra + snapdragon combo android phone came out i would buy it IMMEDIATELY i stopped orgasming

superg05 said:
http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/05/flash-10-1-announced-for-just-about-anything-with-a-screen-webo/
Flash 10 already supports HD video on the desktop, but 10.1 -- announced this week at Adobe's MAX conference in Los Angeles -- is being billed the first to really reap the full benefits of the Open Screen Project by unifying feature sets across a wide variety of platforms on the desktop, the laptop, and the pocket. As usual, Windows, Mac, and Linux will all get hooked up with the latest release, but public betas of 10.1 for Windows Mobile and webOS will be hitting before the end of the year as well followed by Android and Symbian in "early" 2010. RIM's also gotten official with its rumored membership in the Open Screen Project, though the lack of a timeline for 10.1 support in BlackBerry OS is a stark reminder of the long technical road that lies ahead for Waterloo as it tries to match the smartphone competition tit-for-tat in the multimedia space. At the end of the day, mobile Flash means nothing without the horsepower to properly drive it, so let's hope that Tegra, Snapdragon, and next-generation architectures like OMAP4 start to come on board en masse just as these builds come out of beta.
Speaking of fast chipsets, the other big news out of the show is that Flash 10.1 will take advantage of GPU acceleration on a number of key mobile platforms, including both nVidia's Tegra and Qualcomm's Snapdragon alongside ION for smooth (well, theoretically smooth) 720p and 1080p video on the latest generation of netbooks and smartbooks.
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well if it's supposed to come out early 2010, should we expect it before the second quarter of the year?

When will it come flash?

Hi,
Im from germany and some features wont run over here like navigating... this is ok but when to hell will flash be avaible?! They sell a phone with flash support but months after realese nothing of it...

Flash will be part of the next Android OS update... Android OS 2.2.. aka Froyo... read this... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=671619
When will it release... whenever Google thinks Froyo is ready...

It will either be out on May 19th, or a proper date for when it is going to be released will be announced then. Either way, I think the 19th is the day that you will know for sure what happening.
On that note, this is why Flash is BAD. Every manufacture except Apple is waiting on Adobe here, and this is the exact reason why Apple wants nothing to do with them. Relying on flash means relying on Adobe and they have a TERRIBLE track record.
Everyone rags on Apple for not wanting flash on there devices, but come on Apple has released 3 major revisions of their platform and is about to release a 4th and Adobe STILL doesn't have a full blown production version of flash running on a single device yet. They are the new Internet Explorer, holding the web back.

Flash 10.1 for Windows Mobile

I thought I read somewhere that Adobe has created Flash 10.1 for every mobile platform except Apple iOS. I cannot seem to find a reference to that anymore.
Does anyone know what the status is on Flash 10.1 for Windows Mobile 6.5?
Skyfire supports Flash, but they seem to have stopped their Windows Mobile development at version 1.5. Version 2.0 for the iPhone is now in the App store, so the iPhone and Android can now do full Flash, but Windows Mobile seems to be stuck with Flash Lite.

DonS said:
I thought I read somewhere that Adobe has created Flash 10.1 for every mobile platform except Apple iOS. I cannot seem to find a reference to that anymore.
Does anyone know what the status is on Flash 10.1 for Windows Mobile 6.5?
Skyfire supports Flash, but they seem to have stopped their Windows Mobile development at version 1.5. Version 2.0 for the iPhone is now in the App store, so the iPhone and Android can now do full Flash, but Windows Mobile seems to be stuck with Flash Lite.
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AFAIK, There is no adobe flash 10.1 for any mobile platform. Skyfire wanted iphone paid users over free WM users.
Download this browser... it is similar to skyfire..
http://www.uzard.com/en/down/download_windowsmobile.asp
For more details XDA discussion thread is:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=686879&highlight=uzardweb
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=704566&highlight=uzardweb
njoy flash with WM
Ravi

even the skyfire has stopped working after the iphone relase.

That uZard web browser is pretty interesting. It actually worked for www.mycokerewards.com. That page uses so much Flash that it gives most mobile browsers fits. It wouldn't allow me to zoom out to see more of the page. The default ratio could only be set to 100-200%. I'd love to set it to 80% so that I can see close to the entire web page and zoom in when needed.
By the way, Adobe Flash 10.1 is on the Android Marketplace and it's been downloaded over 1 million times. Early reports are that it works surprizingly well on a mobile phone. I wish it was out for Windows Mobile!
Using an iPhone or iPad with Frash 0.2 works pretty well except it doesn't do video. Skyfire 2.0 works very well on the iPhone. It runs on the iPad, but using iPhone resolution.
It appears that both uZard and Skyfire use a proxy server to render the pages and then download them to the device. While that gives you the functionality you want, it really slows down scolling and zooming. Skyfire seems to be fairly decent, but uZard was too slow for my taste. Web browsing shouldn't be painful. Hopefully they can better optimize it and then it should be pretty good. This was afterall a beta copy. The other issue with using proxies is that someone has to maintain a server farm for the browsers to work. That means they need to charge for the app to cover the cost of the infrastructure. I believe that Skyfire always planned on charging for their browser when it was out of beta even for Windows Mobile.
I would really like to be able to use Opera with Flash 10 on my Tilt 2.

Adobe killed further development of flash for Windows Mobile shortly after Microsoft's announcement in February that they were discontinuing 6.5 in favor of 7.
Unfortunately, there will be no further development. What we have now is all that winmo will ever get. Support or further development outside of XDA for anything winmo is highly unlikely going forward. That's just the way things are, sadly.

I dont think flash would even work well on our phones, they are just too slow. I've used Skyfire and it seems really choppy and all around not worth it.

I think it would run fine on our phones. The hardware specs on my iPhone 3GS are very close to my Tilt 2. Frash (the hacker developed version of Flash for jailbroken iPhones) works very well. The Rhodium should be able to do anything the iPhone 3GS can do with the right software.
Hopefully Adobe is working on Flash 10 for Windows Phone 7. I guess I'll have to upgrade some day. I'm waiting for HTC to release the right phone in the US. I like the HD2, but I'm an AT&T customer and the T-Mobile HD2 will only do 2G in the US when using AT&T because the T-Mobile radio hardware is setup for the T-Mobile frequencies. I need an AT&T version of something like the HD2 running Windows Phone 7.

pickles319 said:
I dont think flash would even work well on our phones, they are just too slow. I've used Skyfire and it seems really choppy and all around not worth it.
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Skyfire doesn't (or didn't, since its not supported by the developer anymore) run Flash on the phone at all. Skyfire "transcodes" by rendering Flash content on the Skyfire server, then transmits images of that content to your phone. That is why Skyfire was so slow. This is also why iPhone users are going crazy over Skyfire right now. It allows Flash content to be displayed on the iPhone, when Flash is not supported at all by Apple.

There is no Flash 10.1 for Windows Mobile. It will come to Windows Phone 7 though probably early next year. At present, Flash 10.1 on mobile is already available on Android 2.2 and will probably come to BlackBerry Tablet OS next year.
Apart from Flash in the browser, Flash outside the browser (aka AIR) is in beta for Android 2.2 and probably BlackBerry Tablet OS next year. Indeed, the UI of BlackBerry Tablet OS was built with Flash.

WP8 has a limited life too?

One line in the article is scary. A nightmare revisited perhaps? That "WP8 will be supported for at least the next 18 months."
That is what a year and half? MS is known to release an update anyways not before a couple of years. So does that mean that the support of the "flagship" WP8 devices terminate even before the devices are launched?
LUMIA 900 is perhaps an example that we should be careful??
Your views?
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circleofomega said:
..."WP8 will be supported for at least the next 18 months." ....
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Hmm.... Only Connor MacLeod, the Highlander is immortal. The lifetime of the rest stuff (including me, you and Windows) - is limited. Are you going to live forever?

You currently don't get any guarantees for longer support on any mobile platform. Apple does support it's devices longer but it is not guaranteed in any way and the iPad 1 is left out of iOS 6 although it is not that old.
The 18 months was also a plan Google announced on the IO conference last year which many manufacturers failed to live up to.
My guess (according to several interviews with Microsoft employees) is that they will not do a change to the system that goes so deep again anytime soon (where would they move as they now switched to the Desktop OSs underpinnings?). It still is a given that at some point in the future your device again won't be getting updates.
The question you are posing is if those 18 months could mean that if I buy a WP8 in 16 months it might get left behind 2 months later. Those 18 months which are guaranteed are based on the age of the device (when it was first released). A Lumia 900 kind of situation should therefore not happen again. That your device might no longer receive updates before your contract is up might happen, given that you might a) not buy the device the day it comes to market and b) the contract is regularly 6 months longer than the time frame for updates.

Where is the source with the original quote? A quick Google gives me the quote: "Microsoft will support Windows Phone 8 devices [with updates] for at least 18 months" (My emphasis).
http://www.technobuffalo.com/compan...-will-offer-ota-updates-18-months-of-support/

bbobeckyj said:
Where is the source with the original quote? A quick Google gives me the quote: "Microsoft will support Windows Phone 8 devices [with updates] for at least 18 months" (My emphasis).
http://www.technobuffalo.com/compan...-will-offer-ota-updates-18-months-of-support/
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I can kind of see what your saying but then you could argue (especially Google) that not many devices actually get support for 18 months, So if you go and buy a new WP in Oct/Nov then it will be supported for 18 months. Unlike new Android phones, Microsoft is not fragmentated (not including WP7.8). This means ALL first gen WP8 will be supprted. New Android phones come out on a weekly basis and is NEVER guranteed to get the latest Android update (unless its a Nexus).
You could argue both ways...
I believe Microsoft will be looking after 1st Gen WP8 early adoptors, but with things changing in the world of tech who knows?
I will probably get a new WP8 and a WinRT tablet to work alongside my Xbox and my Laptop... that is an ecosystem that not even Apple can rival!

mafu6 said:
I can kind of see what your saying but then you could argue (especially Google) that not many devices actually get support for 18 months, So if you go and buy a new WP in Oct/Nov then it will be supported for 18 months. Unlike new Android phones, Microsoft is not fragmentated (not including WP7.8). This means ALL first gen WP8 will be supprted. New Android phones come out on a weekly basis and is NEVER guranteed to get the latest Android update (unless its a Nexus).
You could argue both ways...
I believe Microsoft will be looking after 1st Gen WP8 early adoptors, but with things changing in the world of tech who knows?
I will probably get a new WP8 and a WinRT tablet to work alongside my Xbox and my Laptop... that is an ecosystem that not even Apple can rival!
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Hmmm..when its android I don't fear much...for obvious reason that I can root it and flash the latest OS. Not so much so with WP8. For it, I only and only have to rely on MS.
So if they decide tomorrow that my device doesn't have the necessary hardware (deja vu?), I'm screwed...
That, was my fear...
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The chances of that happening are pretty slim.
WP8 got a huge update over WP7 (i do not use the term huge lightly), which made the incompatibility stuff a problem.
Unless some huge leap in technology happens in the nest 18 months or so, we won't see this kind of problem again. It is highly likely that current wp8 will run wp9.
I for one don't think hardware will advance at such quick rate in the coming years.

mafu6 said:
I can kind of see what your saying but then you could argue (especially Google) that not many devices actually get support for 18 months, So if you go and buy a new WP in Oct/Nov then it will be supported for 18 months. Unlike new Android phones, Microsoft is not fragmentated (not including WP7.8). This means ALL first gen WP8 will be supprted. New Android phones come out on a weekly basis and is NEVER guranteed to get the latest Android update (unless its a Nexus).
You could argue both ways...
I believe Microsoft will be looking after 1st Gen WP8 early adoptors, but with things changing in the world of tech who knows?
I will probably get a new WP8 and a WinRT tablet to work alongside my Xbox and my Laptop... that is an ecosystem that not even Apple can rival!
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It's not an argument though is it. It's simply the facts.
Google doesn't support Devices for a variety of reasons - Not least of which is that it's freeware OS, and there are several hundred devices with new ones each week.
MS have said that they will support devices for 18 months, and this is achievable, there will be maybe 50 of them by the time 18 months is up, and the manufacturer (and so in the end user) pays for the OS.
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Hmmm..when its android I don't fear much...for obvious reason that I can root it and flash the latest OS. Not so much so with WP8. For it, I only and only have to rely on MS.
So if they decide tomorrow that my device doesn't have the necessary hardware (deja vu?), I'm screwed...
That, was my fear...
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These type of comments mystify me. Of the following announced WP8 features which ones were you expecting to get on your current phone?
Multi-core processor support
1280x768 and 1280x720 screens
removable MicroSD cards
NFC wireless sharing

This is about indervidual devices not Windows Phone 8 itself! They are saying that from when a phone comes out you will have at least 18 months support (far more than anyone else promises) this does not mean that WP8 will be chopped up like 7! They switched kernel that's why you cant upgrade and they did that to be sure they have last ability.

U miss the point.
18 months is fine if it was Android. But WP8? From their track record, 18 months qualifies for one upgrade.
But not like other devices where even first gen phones enjoy the very last update...(how they perform is all together another argument).
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Given that Microsoft is not going to change the Kernel again (where too - they are now running the Desktop OS on mobile devices) at least the community here will likely be able to provide those updates. Given that the original Developer phones like the LG panther have been able to receive at least OS updates using the CAB-Sender-Method this might be an option going forward.
But if it's ok for you to have the new version of the OS running in a kinda working way, with kinda weird problems and kinda annoying glitches it might be an option to go with Android. I'm running CM9.1 on my SGS2 which works without problems but it's one of their stable releases and they recently decided to ditch support for older devices with the Snapdragon S1 (which is also found in the 1st Gen WP7 devices). There are still ports around for those devices but with those it is like I mentioned above (glitches, problems, etc.)
In the end smartphones age quickly and at some point it is not really viable keeping them updated even though more than 18 months are definitely doable (but as was mentioned: no one guarantees you that it is a good experience).

circleofomega said:
U miss the point.
18 months is fine if it was Android. But WP8? From their track record, 18 months qualifies for one upgrade.
But not like other devices where even first gen phones enjoy the very last update...(how they perform is all together another argument).
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If your were responding to me, then I miss the point again. I literally don't understand most of what you've said or the meaning - sorry.
Do Android phones get official updates 18 months after release? Not even all of the new release Android phones have the latest OS version.
What does "But WP8? From their track record, 18 months qualifies for one upgrade." mean? WP7 was released 2 years before WP8 will be released and all current WP7 phones will get WP7.8 which itself is not being released until after WP8 and may not be until next year, so that's well past 18 months. Also MS have stated that WP7 was a stop gap until WP8 was done, so a major OS change is not going to happen.
"But not like other devices where even first gen phones enjoy the very last update" Which phones and OS are you talking about? Apple don't have the latest OS on their oldest Iphones, and new Android phones don't all have the latest OS either. You've really confused me...
Are you complaining that MS will only guarantee to support all devices for only 18 months, while lauding the other OS makers who do less) because XDevs try to do it for them?

bbobeckyj said:
If your were responding to me, then I miss the point again. I literally don't understand most of what you've said or the meaning - sorry.
Do Android phones get official updates 18 months after release? Not even all of the new release Android phones have the latest OS version.
What does "But WP8? From their track record, 18 months qualifies for one upgrade." mean? WP7 was released 2 years before WP8 will be released and all current WP7 phones will get WP7.8 which itself is not being released until after WP8 and may not be until next year, so that's well past 18 months. Also MS have stated that WP7 was a stop gap until WP8 was done, so a major OS change is not going to happen.
"But not like other devices where even first gen phones enjoy the very last update" Which phones and OS are you talking about? Apple don't have the latest OS on their oldest Iphones, and new Android phones don't all have the latest OS either. You've really confused me...
Are you complaining that MS will only guarantee to support all devices for only 18 months, while lauding the other OS makers who do less) because XDevs try to do it for them?
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Wasn't exactly talking to u...but since u replied:
Yes..no other OS supports older devices. Be it iOS or Android. BUT, having said that, it is as easy as turning your computer on when it comes to updating those devices..
It is..er..unethical to an extent...but who cares...I have the latest OS.
BUT, but...when it comes to WP, there is no way out. The fate of THAT device hangs in thin air. If MS decides to pull the plug, game's over.
So even though iPhones and Androids of the world see an (unofficial) update. Not so much so a WP device....
Sent from my DROID RaZr.

circleofomega said:
Wasn't exactly talking to u...but since u replied:
Yes..no other OS supports older devices. Be it iOS or Android. BUT, having said that, it is as easy as turning your computer on when it comes to updating those devices..
It is..er..unethical to an extent...but who cares...I have the latest OS.
BUT, but...when it comes to WP, there is no way out. The fate of THAT device hangs in thin air. If MS decides to pull the plug, game's over.
So even though iPhones and Androids of the world see an (unofficial) update. Not so much so a WP device....
Sent from my DROID RaZr.
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I am really confused by this post. What you are saying is that because MS make PC's and you can update a PC they should update ll there phones forever even though nobody else does? You claim its ok for android to do it because we can hack the updates on? How would that be diff from doing it to wp??? Name me one WP that is not on the latest OS version! There isn't one.
How is MS supporting your device for its life span a bad thing esp when Android comes out outdated most of the time yet that's fine. How is having a guarantee of updates leaving you out in the air????
Total garbage so do us a favor and engage the brain instead of just being a hate monger Android fan boi

lumpaywk said:
I am really confused by this post. What you are saying is that because MS make PC's and you can update a PC they should update ll there phones forever even though nobody else does? You claim its ok for android to do it because we can hack the updates on? How would that be diff from doing it to wp??? Name me one WP that is not on the latest OS version! There isn't one.
How is MS supporting your device for its life span a bad thing esp when Android comes out outdated most of the time yet that's fine. How is having a guarantee of updates leaving you out in the air????
Total garbage so do us a favor and engage the brain instead of just being a hate monger Android fan boi
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U got me all wrong my friend. I'm just saying, giving it a date "18 months" was a little scary.
Secondly I don't like Android anymore and love WP8.
MS isn't supporting my device for the lifetime and that's my worry...
Hope I'm clear now...
Sent from my DROID RaZr.

circleofomega said:
U got me all wrong my friend. I'm just saying, giving it a date "18 months" was a little scary.
Secondly I don't like Android anymore and love WP8.
MS isn't supporting my device for the lifetime and that's my worry...
Hope I'm clear now...
Sent from my DROID RaZr.
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How long do you keep your phone? I heard of 2 year contracts but who actually keeps it for that time without buying out? Even if so you get guarantee of 18 months not a maximum of 18months most likely you will get longer but they have to cover themselves. Also as you said before MS is more prone to big updates hence a big one each year with a smaller in the middle meaning that you should get your 18 month update that should last until the 2 years is up before the next is out anyway. I think that covers most life of phones as it covers most contract lenghs and is far beyond what the competition is doing.

circleofomega said:
Wasn't exactly talking to u...but since u replied:
Yes..no other OS supports older devices. Be it iOS or Android. BUT, having said that, it is as easy as turning your computer on when it comes to updating those devices..
It is..er..unethical to an extent...but who cares...I have the latest OS.
BUT, but...when it comes to WP, there is no way out. The fate of THAT device hangs in thin air. If MS decides to pull the plug, game's over.
So even though iPhones and Androids of the world see an (unofficial) update. Not so much so a WP device....
Sent from my DROID RaZr.
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WP have unofficial custom roms. The only reason that IOS and Android have more is because more people are making them, and you can't blame MS for that, especially while they guarantee to provide official updates.

bbobeckyj said:
WP have unofficial custom roms. The only reason that IOS and Android have more is because more people are making them, and you can't blame MS for that, especially while they guarantee to provide official updates.
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Oh my goooood....I'm misunderstood thrice in a row...IM NOT BLAMING MS...it's just a question..."IS" WP8 live short too??? Its a question... anyway
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circleofomega said:
Oh my goooood....I'm misunderstood thrice in a row...IM NOT BLAMING MS...it's just a question..."IS" WP8 live short too??? Its a question... anyway
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Then the answer is no, it is not to short.

lumpaywk said:
Then the answer is no, it is not to short.
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Thanks.. that is the reply I'm looking for...
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Netflix blocking chromecast for devices older than 4.0 with screen of hate

In its latest anti-consumer move Netflix has deemed that only those with Android devices greater than version 4.0 should be allowed to cast videos to chromecast.
While my streaming streaming service worked fine last night, I went to watch some netflix this morning on my chromecast and was met with only the screen of hate:
Please update the Netflix application on our mobile device to continue casting Netflix to this TV.
Netflix works with Android 4.0 and later, iOS 6.0 and later, and the latest version of Chrome.
For more information, visit www.netflix.com/chromecasthelp
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I have no intention of replacing my android device at the minute, and will probably just end up using an android RDP app to start the streaming from a pc, but maybe I will give my $8 a month to Cruntchyroll or Hulu+ or someone who still wants to provide service to my devices.
so, here is my plea to netflix from the internet:
dear reed hastings,
I can haz chromecast streamings back plz?
kthanks

I like backwards compatibility, but are you really laden with devices that have 4.0 on them still? No access to a desktop so you can install Chrome on it?
I prefer Swedish Netflix...

Sorry, but Android 4.0 its already more then 3 years old, and it has been replaced with versions 4.1, 4.2, 4.3, 4.4 and 5.0. I think, that they hold backward compatibility for good amount of time. Google himself are desperately trying to replace 2.x versions of Android, which is a 4 years old system, so I don't see anything wrong on compatibility with just 4.0+ system.

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Sorry, but Android 4.0 its already more then 3 years old, and it has been replaced with versions 4.1, 4.2, 4.3, 4.4 and 5.0. I think, that they hold backward compatibility for good amount of time. Google himself are desperately trying to replace 2.x versions of Android, which is a 4 years old system, so I don't see anything wrong on compatibility with just 4.0+ system.
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I agree but I also understand the frustration of anyone still stuck on Gingerbread.
What is likely the case here is Netflix app is now using google code to do ccasting where before it may have been built into the app itself.
While it sucks to have to go buy a new device just to get Netflix support it really is time for the OP to look at upgrading.