Hey does anyone know where I can get flash 10.1, because I wanna test it out and try to integrate it into one of my new roms...thanks for any help.
stupidest thread ive read in a while right here
answer to your question here:
http://tinyurl.com/yfevdeg
There is no Flash 10.1 at this point!
o rly?
seaweeduk said:
stupidest thread ive read in a while right here
answer to your question here:
http://tinyurl.com/yfevdeg
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Thanks for that, i appreciate that. I already did that and found nothing, I was just wondering if anyone here had the beta or whatever is out because I figured that someone here would have this.
If someone had a beta of Flash 10 for Android, you can bet that people would be shouting from rooftops about it.
I think it's going to make an already slow phone even slower.
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There is no Flash 10.1 at this point!
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there is no flash 10 period for android yet, the flash included with hero roms is flash 9 or 8
Who Said there is no Flash 10.1
Becuase Starting from Flash 10.1 Adobe have Open Sourced it
http://www.openscreenproject.org/
Read the Article and u will know the Future
http://www.adobe.com/aboutadobe/pressroom/pressreleases/200910/100509AFPforMobileDevicesandPCs.html
http://www.openscreenproject.org/theme/ssi/david_wadhwani.html
i found the flash, see here he is
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It doesn't say anything about being open source.
Flash is not and likely will never become open source.
There are a couple of open source flash-wannabe projects, but neither really works... i.e. gnash and swfdec.
It would be really nice if flash would just DIE already. It is a huge resource hog and offers nothing that can't be offered in a more efficient and practical way.... i.e. flash videos? What's wrong with REGULAR videos? Any decent media player can be embedded in a web browser to play those things!
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Who Said there is no Flash 10.1
Becuase Starting from Flash 10.1 Adobe have Open Sourced it
http://www.openscreenproject.org/
Read the Article and u will know the Future
http://www.adobe.com/aboutadobe/pressroom/pressreleases/200910/100509AFPforMobileDevicesandPCs.html
http://www.openscreenproject.org/theme/ssi/david_wadhwani.html
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hetaldp said:
Who Said there is no Flash 10.1
Becuase Starting from Flash 10.1 Adobe have Open Sourced it
http://www.openscreenproject.org/
Read the Article and u will know the Future
http://www.adobe.com/aboutadobe/pressroom/pressreleases/200910/100509AFPforMobileDevicesandPCs.html
http://www.openscreenproject.org/theme/ssi/david_wadhwani.html
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there is no flash 10.1 currently for android. there are plans for the future,but we are talking about now
beta hasnt been released yet
lbcoder said:
It doesn't say anything about being open source.
Flash is not and likely will never become open source.
There are a couple of open source flash-wannabe projects, but neither really works... i.e. gnash and swfdec.
It would be really nice if flash would just DIE already. It is a huge resource hog and offers nothing that can't be offered in a more efficient and practical way.... i.e. flash videos? What's wrong with REGULAR videos? Any decent media player can be embedded in a web browser to play those things!
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i wanna do something like that with a webpage if you know of a media player that can be embedded that would work on a smart phone would be a big help
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there is no flash 10.1 currently for android. there are plans for the future,but we are talking about now
beta hasnt been released yet
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Yea it just looks like the beta is only for the PRE and windows mobile, I cant wait for this to come out for android...
adewey234 said:
Yea it just looks like the beta is only for the PRE and windows mobile, I cant wait for this to come out for android...
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i'd be happy if we even had 9 besides hero
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i'd be happy if we even had 9 besides hero
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Yea seriously, that would be awesome...
Don't worry, Adobe announced that they would release the beta by the end of this month anyway
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Don't worry, Adobe announced that they would release the beta by the end of this month anyway
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i though engadget reported we wont get it till 2010 let me check cause they did say October
http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/05/flash-10-1-announced-for-just-about-anything-with-a-screen-webo/
Flash 10 already supports HD video on the desktop, but 10.1 -- announced this week at Adobe's MAX conference in Los Angeles -- is being billed the first to really reap the full benefits of the Open Screen Project by unifying feature sets across a wide variety of platforms on the desktop, the laptop, and the pocket. As usual, Windows, Mac, and Linux will all get hooked up with the latest release, but public betas of 10.1 for Windows Mobile and webOS will be hitting before the end of the year as well followed by Android and Symbian in "early" 2010. RIM's also gotten official with its rumored membership in the Open Screen Project, though the lack of a timeline for 10.1 support in BlackBerry OS is a stark reminder of the long technical road that lies ahead for Waterloo as it tries to match the smartphone competition tit-for-tat in the multimedia space. At the end of the day, mobile Flash means nothing without the horsepower to properly drive it, so let's hope that Tegra, Snapdragon, and next-generation architectures like OMAP4 start to come on board en masse just as these builds come out of beta.
Speaking of fast chipsets, the other big news out of the show is that Flash 10.1 will take advantage of GPU acceleration on a number of key mobile platforms, including both nVidia's Tegra and Qualcomm's Snapdragon alongside ION for smooth (well, theoretically smooth) 720p and 1080p video on the latest generation of netbooks and smartbooks.
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http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/05/flash-10-1-announced-for-just-about-anything-with-a-screen-webo/
Flash 10 already supports HD video on the desktop, but 10.1 -- announced this week at Adobe's MAX conference in Los Angeles -- is being billed the first to really reap the full benefits of the Open Screen Project by unifying feature sets across a wide variety of platforms on the desktop, the laptop, and the pocket. As usual, Windows, Mac, and Linux will all get hooked up with the latest release, but public betas of 10.1 for Windows Mobile and webOS will be hitting before the end of the year as well followed by Android and Symbian in "early" 2010. RIM's also gotten official with its rumored membership in the Open Screen Project, though the lack of a timeline for 10.1 support in BlackBerry OS is a stark reminder of the long technical road that lies ahead for Waterloo as it tries to match the smartphone competition tit-for-tat in the multimedia space. At the end of the day, mobile Flash means nothing without the horsepower to properly drive it, so let's hope that Tegra, Snapdragon, and next-generation architectures like OMAP4 start to come on board en masse just as these builds come out of beta.
Speaking of fast chipsets, the other big news out of the show is that Flash 10.1 will take advantage of GPU acceleration on a number of key mobile platforms, including both nVidia's Tegra and Qualcomm's Snapdragon alongside ION for smooth (well, theoretically smooth) 720p and 1080p video on the latest generation of netbooks and smartbooks.
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if a tegra + snapdragon combo android phone came out i would buy it IMMEDIATELY i stopped orgasming
superg05 said:
http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/05/flash-10-1-announced-for-just-about-anything-with-a-screen-webo/
Flash 10 already supports HD video on the desktop, but 10.1 -- announced this week at Adobe's MAX conference in Los Angeles -- is being billed the first to really reap the full benefits of the Open Screen Project by unifying feature sets across a wide variety of platforms on the desktop, the laptop, and the pocket. As usual, Windows, Mac, and Linux will all get hooked up with the latest release, but public betas of 10.1 for Windows Mobile and webOS will be hitting before the end of the year as well followed by Android and Symbian in "early" 2010. RIM's also gotten official with its rumored membership in the Open Screen Project, though the lack of a timeline for 10.1 support in BlackBerry OS is a stark reminder of the long technical road that lies ahead for Waterloo as it tries to match the smartphone competition tit-for-tat in the multimedia space. At the end of the day, mobile Flash means nothing without the horsepower to properly drive it, so let's hope that Tegra, Snapdragon, and next-generation architectures like OMAP4 start to come on board en masse just as these builds come out of beta.
Speaking of fast chipsets, the other big news out of the show is that Flash 10.1 will take advantage of GPU acceleration on a number of key mobile platforms, including both nVidia's Tegra and Qualcomm's Snapdragon alongside ION for smooth (well, theoretically smooth) 720p and 1080p video on the latest generation of netbooks and smartbooks.
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well if it's supposed to come out early 2010, should we expect it before the second quarter of the year?
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My upgrade is coming up in January but i want the Vibrant so badly that i think imma treat myself and pay full price for it, coz my current phone (omnia 2) is a so ****ty.
But reading all these lag/gps threads has put some second thoughts in my head and thinking of holding off and just upgrading in January and save a bit of cash as well or maybe even the torch.
What are your thoughts wait it out and see if samsung fixes the issues and not be out $500 or its worth buying now because the lag fixes fix everything and gps is not so bad?
if you need a new phone now, buy it
the problems you read are exaggerated as usual.
been using it for over a month using stock ROMs every feature works and no lags
GPS is a must thing for me, and it works as soon as i turn it on within 5~10sec
if you don't need a phone now
then wait for better phones coming out next year
well i don't want another phone and i think the vibrant is very nice better then my freezing and laggy omnia.
Get the vibrant now and save your upgrade for the next best thing next year. At $520 tax in its a steal now that you can unlock it for free.
My advise is wait for the September update, to see what happens. I don't care about the lag personally, but the GPS could be better (even though I don't use it really).
We'll know for sure then if the GPS will work. Because it is likely other devices with competing specs to this phone will be released, and if they support GPS better (and have ATMEL too), you'd be better off waiting.
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My advise is wait for the September update, to see what happens. I don't care about the lag personally, but the GPS could be better (even though I don't use it really).
We'll know for sure then if the GPS will work. Because it is likely other devices with competing specs to this phone will be released, and if they support GPS better (and have ATMEL too), you'd be better off waiting.
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thats th kind of advice i'm looking for, what devices would one be looking forward too that is par with the vibrant?
jebise101 said:
thats th kind of advice i'm looking for, what devices would one be looking forward too that is par with the vibrant?
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Any of the new HTC phones, including the Desire HD. They admittedly have the now infamous 1Ghz snapdragon but theres a good possibility they are paired with an Adreno 205 (which has a graphics chipset based on Power VR SGX 535). That would give the HTC phones equal performance considering froyo + will be better optimised for snapdragon processors.
Graphics performance is not as good as the galaxy s chipset but good enough.
HTC's in general I've found are better built but now were encroaching on personal preference territory. This may be simply because HTC have had more time to perfect android or just Ive had a more solid experience with HTC android phones.
rest assured there will be a whole flood of non-samsung androids come christmas so perhaps hold off till end of September and pick the best price/feature phone at that time. More exciting is the prospect of google tv, greater adoption and connection of android devices.
p.s. theres also windows mobile and its host of offerings.
In regards to Windows Mobile, unfortunately, Microsoft seems to have joined the party much too late (which is a pity actually). I don't believe WM7 will survive, because Blackberry owns the corporate market, Apple owns the home market, Symbian/custom OS's owns the cheaper smartphone market and Android owns the technical market (although, it is now accelerating it's growth).
Btw, the SGS isn't the only phone having issues. On the iPhone, people are still having issues with the proximity sensor, and the only solution for iPhone users for the antenna is to use a bumper if they suffer for the issue (or become right handed).
Yep, and the Nexus One wasn't perfect either:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/186399/google_faces_deluge_of_nexus_one_complaints.html . Remember that? And now, people LOVE the nexus one.
The main issue seems to be GPS though on this phone, as people who oppose the lag found switching to EXT fixes their issue.. But GPS, there was no known solution. So whilst there may be similar phones released in september, I forgot to mention you should either wait to see what GPS does, or wait a while before grabbing another phone (because they might have other serious issues on release).
But be cautious about claims made in forums, and wait until you see proof (even here). One idiot who owned a Sony Ericson blog claimed with authority that this phone definitely had 360MB RAM (rather than the full 512), I see people constantly grab quadrant and take note of every 0.5%-1% increase in score they see and try to correlate them to speed of the ROM (because 1% increase in quadrant would be visibly noticeable?) and I've seen people claim that because NMEA sends dodgy packets, the problem is DEFINITELY hardware, without checking if the drivers, or the device is sending them.
Make sure you wait for sufficient evidence. If the GPS DOES get fixed though, and tracking software consistently shows accurate tracks (when sitting down and moving), I'd personally recommend selecting this phone, because unlike the current competing devices, it has good hardware (even a proper multitouch controller), and we mostly know it's problems and limitations now.
andrewluecke said:
Btw, the SGS isn't the only phone having issues. On the iPhone, people are still having issues with the proximity sensor, and the only solution for iPhone users for the antenna is to use a bumper if they suffer for the issue (or become right handed).
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Even the HTC Desired have (had) the problem with the proximity sensor, good thing our great team at XDA made a hack to fix that.
unfortunately or fortunately depending how you look at it, iphone people are not as free to do as they please with their phones.
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Buy it
This Phone is SWEET.
sending a playlist to my windows 7 computer, which connects to my stereo with an outdoor speaker, while sitting outside drinking wine and smoking a cigar. Priceless.
This phone Rocks. buy one, hell buy two lol.
I ordered one yesterday, coming from an Omnia HD with Symbian on it I reckon this will be a pretty huge upgrade. Even given the minor bugs there is. I'll put my trust in that Samsung will fix those bugs in Froyo which is coming in less than a month anyway.
Am I the only one here who came from a K750i, or another ancient dumbphone?
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Am I the only one here who came from a K750i, or another ancient dumbphone?
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Not in public please!
OP - Mine was delivered yesterday - I'd say buy one. It's awesome!
I'd definitely recommend waiting, but not because of the lag/gps ; Gingerbread should allow for some awesome phones come this holiday season(mainly phones with a higher res).
azgull said:
I ordered one yesterday, coming from an Omnia HD with Symbian on it I reckon this will be a pretty huge upgrade. Even given the minor bugs there is. I'll put my trust in that Samsung will fix those bugs in Froyo which is coming in less than a month anyway.
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Also figured I'd mention that coming from AMOLED; I don't think I'd able to downgrade that. The washed out blacks are so dreadful. Super AMOLED promising even better contrasts (and actually working in sunlight) can only be a winner. I did consider waiting for Desire HD, but choose not to, purely because of the screen.
What do you guys think are the chances of i9000 getting gingerbread ???
Samsung said official 2.2 will be around september, and 3.0 will be launched around mid-october , so maybe we will have 3.0 for i9000 around february
Desire HD will launch around mid-september , it will come with 2.2, and will probably get 3.0 in december - january
Nobody knows.. Nobody even knows what the specs for gingerbread are. Any reply would be guesses izmenar. The only reason we probably wouldn't get it, is if it required dual core, but dual core mobile CPU's aren't being released for a while
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Nobody knows.. Nobody even knows what the specs for gingerbread are. Any reply would be guesses izmenar. The only reason we probably wouldn't get it, is if it required dual core, but dual core mobile CPU's aren't being released for a while
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StreamTV A7
Tegra 2 should have a dual core Cortex-A9.
Only thing we know for sure is that custom UIs won't be supported in Gingerbread.
Toss3 said:
StreamTV A7
Tegra 2 should have a dual core Cortex-A9.
Only thing we know for sure is that custom UIs won't be supported in Gingerbread.
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Did Google say that, or was it rumored
Hi there,
i have my Galaxy S for about 2 Weeks and i am happy with it.
The Display is very clear (even with an lower resolution than the IP4).
No jailbreaking or something else to get some stuff working on this nice phone.
Nice functions and a good UI.
Great phone!
...only GPS sucks a little bit, but i hope this will be fixed
Greetings
DerRaven
Hi
The SGT is the first and last Samsung (and perhaps Android) device I will ever buy due to the complete lack of official updates available for it. I am not interesting in flashing hacked roms, I just expect Samsung to provide a timely release of new android versions very soon after google makes them available.
In respect of updates, compared to iOS devices, Android devices are so far behind its untrue --> While 2 year old Apple devices such as the iPhone 3GS are updatable to the latest version of iOS, 3 month old Android devices do not get access to the latest version of android. Its frankly disgusting.
Anyone know when I can expect an update for my SGT to Android 2.3/3.0 (sim free wifi+3g version)?
I've had a pre-order on the go with Amazon for a 7" iconia tab A101, but that has been delayed until 30th June now!! Looks like I am stuck with the SGT and its outdated/buggy/slow OS for some time. I should have just bought an iPad...
Nigel
veletron said:
Hi
The SGT is the first and last Samsung (and perhaps Android) device I will ever buy due to the complete lack of official updates available for it. I am not interesting in flashing hacked roms, I just expect Samsung to provide a timely release of new android versions very soon after google makes them available.
In respect of updates, compared to iOS devices, Android devices are so far behind its untrue --> While 2 year old Apple devices such as the iPhone 3GS are updatable to the latest version of iOS, 3 month old Android devices do not get access to the latest version of android. Its frankly disgusting.
Anyone know when I can expect an update for my SGT to Android 2.3/3.0 (sim free wifi+3g version)?
I've had a pre-order on the go with Amazon for a 7" iconia tab A101, but that has been delayed until 30th June now!! Looks like I am stuck with the SGT and its outdated/buggy/slow OS for some time. I should have just bought an iPad...
Nigel
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Don't blame android blame Samsung they got ya cash now kindly duck off.
I went with sony on my latest upgrade away from Samsung im in the same camp as you Samsung wont get a penny more from me.
No support at all for our device... pathetic!
oo and get ready for the backlash from the Samsung fan brigade who oddly think this is ok?!? but inside I know they are as pi$$ed as us. Ive renamed them $am$sung myself
veletron said:
Hi
The SGT is the first and last Samsung (and perhaps Android) device I will ever buy due to the complete lack of official updates available for it. I am not interesting in flashing hacked roms, I just expect Samsung to provide a timely release of new android versions very soon after google makes them available.
In respect of updates, compared to iOS devices, Android devices are so far behind its untrue --> While 2 year old Apple devices such as the iPhone 3GS are updatable to the latest version of iOS, 3 month old Android devices do not get access to the latest version of android. Its frankly disgusting.
Anyone know when I can expect an update for my SGT to Android 2.3/3.0 (sim free wifi+3g version)?
I've had a pre-order on the go with Amazon for a 7" iconia tab A101, but that has been delayed until 30th June now!! Looks like I am stuck with the SGT and its outdated/buggy/slow OS for some time. I should have just bought an iPad...
Nigel
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I dont even know where to begin with this so im not eve going to bother.
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I dont even know where to begin with this so im not eve going to bother.
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+1 I know how you feel.
If only people knew how to use google before typing nonsense.Just to put the first two comments into perspective...........
Android April version numbers stay relatively unchanged from the previous month
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So only around 4% of handsets have gingerbread. Hmm......I would probably consider the Tab to be up to date then? Since that 4% will be mostly consisting of Brand New handsets. Like the galaxy S2,etc. I do actually have an S2, my second samsung device of all time. Is gingerbread much different to froyo? nope. can barely tell tbh. Not like the leap from 2.1 to 2.2. Though if you asked if the dual core made a difference, I would have to say yes.
Come on people.
Though I'm also cross my 1981 ford cortina hasnt been updated to a ford mondeo
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Though I'm also cross my 1981 ford cortina hasnt been updated to a ford mondeo
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Exactly.
trying to compare a iphone/ios to a Android OS and licensed devices is completley retarded and shows how ignorant the OP is.
iOS is designed to run on 4 devices from a specific manufacturer, whereas Android is licensed to be developed for MANY different manufacturers and MANY MANY MANY devices.
If the OP cant handle a real OS ad real device he should get a lobotomy and get a iphone.
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Exactly.
trying to compare a iphone/ios to a Android OS and licensed devices is completley retarded and shows how ignorant the OP is.
iOS is designed to run on 4 devices from a specific manufacturer, whereas Android is licensed to be developed for MANY different manufacturers and MANY MANY MANY devices.
If the OP cant handle a real OS ad real device he should get a lobotomy and get a iphone.
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The sad thing is, they have over 600 posts between them
sigh...
meh! apple, go get an apple then.
as far as the sony comment i am not going to touch it. again if you like sony then go get it
samsung have a history read up befor you go buy thier product and complain.
android is all about openness, development and moving forwards. if you dont like it now then wait a few months and try again.
Android Updates
Lol
I knew this would result in a load of negativity from the Androiders out there. The simple fact is that your average end-user simply does not care that its harder for a manufacturer using a licensed OS to provide updates than it is for Apple to update iOS for its own devices. Its frankly not the end-users problem.
Anyone who has been using iOS devices for any time, will be very surprised if they switch to android (due to all the hype surrounding it), when they find out that updates beyond what the phone is delivered with rarely happen. I would predict that those jumping ship from iOS and heading to Android will be right back to iOS once their contracts expire with a very sour taste lingering!
The fact that Apple devices are upgradable to the latest OS version for around 2 years after first manufacture makes them a compelling purchase (despite the higher initial cost) You are not going to be lumbered with a useless, outdated brick half way through your 2-year contract.
Apple has set the bar very high, its up to google, samsung, HTC to match Apple's performance in this regard *however hard it might be*.
As someone who owns both Android and iOS devices, I am able to compare and contrast. Both have their good points, but the lack of updates for Android devices is a massive negative for them. The other negative being the quality of the apps on Android which is way,way behind those on iOS. Unless you *own* and *use* both iOS and Android devices on a daily basis, you are simply not qualified to have an opinion on this!
I'm no 'Ignorant OP' as someone commented. I've probably been on XDA way before many other folks, and have had 6 WinMo devices prior to heading in the direction of apple. I'm a programmer by trade working with mobile devices (hardware close assy/C/C++, none of this C#/Java nonsense). I simply don't have the time to 'tinker' and flash 'custom' roms anymore. In short, if the geeks on XDA can produce a semi-working 2.3rom for the SGT with none of the information that Samsung themselves have - SO CAN SAMSUNG (if they can be arsed that is).
I like the form factor of the SGT (iPad is frankly too big), I like the fact that its got a microSD slot (makes it hugely useful while away together with my digicam). I got an Android device due to the flexibility the OS offers, I just don't like that I appear to be stuck with all its bugs without any chance of any official updates from Samsung. I wish google would have taken the device manufacturer out of the loop (as Microsoft has done with windows), and push updates directly to the device.
As for this comment:
'iOS is designed to run on 4 devices from a specific manufacturer, whereas Android is licensed to be developed for MANY different manufacturers and MANY MANY MANY devices.'
Sounds like windows on the desktop eh? I've had countless updates from MS for my Windows PC's and laptops despite the fact that this is a single OS present on MANY MANY MANY devices.
It will be interesting to see how MS deals with the issue of updates for WP7 devices. Thus far, they have mucked it right up...
Nigel
veletron said:
As for this comment:
'iOS is designed to run on 4 devices from a specific manufacturer, whereas Android is licensed to be developed for MANY different manufacturers and MANY MANY MANY devices.'
Sounds like windows on the desktop eh? I've had countless updates from MS for my Windows PC's and laptops despite the fact that this is a single OS present on MANY MANY MANY devices.
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No, it doesn't sound like windows. I've never seen any other distributions of Windows...guessing cause its not open source. And Windows operating systems only worked on x86 and amd machines. Only reason Windows runs on my macbook is because its got an intel processor in it.
Google made a distribution of the linux operating system, made it open source, and designed a complex phone API behind it. Microsoft doesn't do that nor does Apple. Like Microsoft, Apple restricts what an end user, carrier, or developer can do with its operating system. Android OS is open source.
I work with multiple devices almost on a daily basis. My colleague has the exact tablet you have and he loves it. His only real complaint other than the few "if it had this..." is he wishes it was maybe a tad bit smaller. He's just your average user: checks emails, facebook, twitter, corporate emails, google voice, web browsing... and he has not one regret from switching from the iOS environment. Downloads tons of apps, homescreen's covered with widgets, etc etc.
AT&T was the reason why I got rid of my iphone, not Apple. Verizon gave me a Droid and I fell in love with it. I ran the stock rom on that phone for ages. I didn't even bother doing a custom rom until i got a second android phone through my personal business. Verizon kept us up to date as possible as to when it'd push the update to our phones and so did Motorola. The only update I couldn't wait to get was 2.2 so I could tether to my phone much easier. Even now that iphone is on the Verizon network, I wouldn't switch back to the iphone.
I returned my ipad because I just still couldn't justify the price for all its prettiness. I spent $280 bucks on my android tablet with the ability of reading sd cards, usb drives, and giving me the freedom to browse the device's file system, vs the $500 I spent on the ipad that didn't have a file manager and the only way to get access to the usb and sd cards was to by an extra device and hoped it worked. Also not having to have itunes installed on my computer and go through loops to connect my devices to different computers is a plus. I can buy a microsoft user license for about $300 bucks and install it on one machine. I can buy (if I don't feel like downloading for free) a linux distribution for $5-10 bucks(shipping on dvd) and install it on as many machines as I want and I can even tailor and recompile the operating system specifically for my machine. (What Samsung does for your tablet and Viewsonic does for mine.)
I don't deny that you're having a problem with your device and it should be resolved in some kind of timely matter. Samsung owes that to you as a consumer of their products...Blaming Google and the entire Android operating system stack is kind of naive when its obvious that the operating system is working as intended. Samsung's distribution apparently doesn't for you and whoever else has issues I guess.
Well, if I'm not allowed to compare to Windows, am I allowed to compare to Linux?! This is open source, runs on many many different hardware platforms (hell, most (all?) android phones are ARM based just as Linux (mostly) runs on x86/x64 hardware).
All the packages on my linux installations are updatable directly from the distro source on the fly whenever I choose to update them - this includes *core* OS packages as well as stuff that I have installed.
Quite frankly, a huge to-do is made about the fact that something is a fixed or mobile platform, trying to paint a false picture that mobile platforms are somehow so much more difficult to manage/maintain than fixed platforms THEY ARE NOT. Its just yet another excuse from the manufacturers for not spending the time/money updating a device.
The PRINCIPLE reason why Android & WinMo devices are not readily updatable to the latest and greatest version of the OS is NOT technical, but rather that the manufacturer and the operator would rather flog you a new phone than keep your existing one up-to-date. Its a testament to Apple that they manage to flog new phones to existing apple users despite the fact that there's very little in the OS that they could not get on their existing phone (which would run the same OS version anyway). Apple manages to sell new hardware because the new hardware is brilliant.
Anyway, my original post here was to ascertain whether or not 2.3 or 3.0 would be available for the SGT at some stage. I'm thinking that nobody knows which is fine. I only paid £300 for a wifi+3G SGT and they're fetching that on ebay, so I have not exactly lost out. I'll check out 3.0 on the Iconia A101 I have on pre-order. Maybe that will live up to my expectations.
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I have never understood the *****ing about updates thing.
You buy a device. When you pick it up off the shelf and take it home you are completely happy with what it is and what you can do with it. You tell all your friends how awesome your device is and recommend that everyone buy one. Then you read that there is a new update to Android. All of a sudden your device is a POS. You wonder why any sane person would even buy such a sack of sh*t. You question your own sanity for buying it in the first place. You call all your friends back and tell them you were dead wrong and no one should ever buy a device like yours ever again. Nothing about your device has changed. WTF??
Also, I'll point out that while older versions of IOS can run newer versions of IOS, they don't do it well at all. That's the main reason why devices don't get updated. Just saying.
Some of the responses here are mind boggling.
Consider this: These Android 3rd party partners essentially get these Android updates for free from Google. Contrast that with Apple who have to do most of the work (except for the open source parts they leverage, which isn't the *entire OS* in Android's case). These manufacturers then need to do, well, what volunteer hackers seem to have little trouble putting together from their bedrooms in relatively little man-hour time. So it's frankly in-excusable for the likes of Samsung, Sony, etc to not have provided Gingerbread updates by now for their devices. The fact that only 4% of handsets on Gingerbread proves the point!
My device is working just fine. Some better apps would make it alot more useful, but I doubt any sw updates will make this much better. Just like switching from windows XP to 7, what have I really gained?
Google encouraging 18 month update pledge
Well, its a start, what happens in practice remains to be seen:
http://androinica.com/2011/05/android-updates-for-18-months/
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Some of the responses here are mind boggling.
Consider this: These Android 3rd party partners essentially get these Android updates for free from Google. Contrast that with Apple who have to do most of the work (except for the open source parts they leverage, which isn't the *entire OS* in Android's case). These manufacturers then need to do, well, what volunteer hackers seem to have little trouble putting together from their bedrooms in relatively little man-hour time. So it's frankly in-excusable for the likes of Samsung, Sony, etc to not have provided Gingerbread updates by now for their devices. The fact that only 4% of handsets on Gingerbread proves the point!
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Three questions:
1. What entitles you to any updates at all? They provide the product. You take it out of the box and determine that you like it. Why do they have any obligation to update your device at all? You certainly don't see this happening with any other type of product.
2. What happened to break your device? When you got it you liked it or you would've taken it back. Now it's a POS. Why? What happened to it to break it?
3. What features of Gingerbread do you want/need on your Tab?
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Three questions:
1. What entitles you to any updates at all? They provide the product. You take it out of the box and determine that you like it. Why do they have any obligation to update your device at all? You certainly don't see this happening with any other type of product.
2. What happened to break your device? When you got it you liked it or you would've taken it back. Now it's a POS. Why? What happened to it to break it?
3. What features of Gingerbread do you want/need on your Tab?
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1.My windows laptop is constantly telling me that I have updates ready to install.
1&2. It can take awhile to notice some annoying little quirks and bugs on a device.
3. I would like to be able to use google talk with my front camera.
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1.My windows laptop is constantly telling me that I have updates ready to install.
1&2. It can take awhile to notice some annoying little quirks and bugs on a device.
3. I would like to be able to use google talk with my front camera.
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1. Really? Microsoft lets you update for free from XP to Windows 7? or even from Windows 7 Home to Windows 7 Professional? Please let me know how to do that. They're never giving me any updates other than security fixes. I've received no updates from Microsoft that included a brand new OS. Obviously I'm in the minority I guess.
2. What is it about your device that makes it a POS now when you liked it originally? What has changed or what have you noticed?
3. You didn't have this when you got the Tab. Why does this just now make you unhappy?
Gingerbread now out.!
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The sad thing is, they have over 600 posts between them
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and you have over 200 and still haven't learned people have a different opinion to yourself that's the really sad thing.
As i said at the bottom of my post get ready for the backlash
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Gingerbread now out.!
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I'm hearing that's just for some of the overseas Tabs and hasn't been rooted yet anyway. Or am I incorrect about all of those things? Wouldn't be the first time.
After your time with sensation and sense, did anyone try the N9? How does meego feel?
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I was one of those people waiting for Meego 2 years ago. Eventually I got tired of waiting and moved on to Android. Meego is a great concept with so much potentials, but its 2 years late into the game. Nokia already picked Windows Phone as the primary OS for their devices, who knows how much support will Meego get from Nokia. Meego will suffer the same faith as Maemo on the N900. Great community support, but no developer supports. If you really like the hardware design of the N9, the Nokia Lumia 800 is the closest thing you get, but with windows running on it. Meego is just too little too late...
I had an N900 that I thought I loved, thanks to it's power. However, one of the big issues with it for me was the laggy UI and non-GPU accelerated aspect of it. Android isn't GPU accelerated until 4.0, but it usually feels butter smooth anyway (on the right phones). The N900's UI was like 10 to 15 FPS max. Laggy and slow as hell. That really, really bothered me.
Then, Nokia said "Eff you guys, no more support from us". And that was the last Nokia I ever bought; the end.
I still have my N900 after getting the Sensation. I thought I would still use it as a sidewinder for wifi hacking, navigation reading etc, but in the end it sits in a drawer.
I power it on once in a while to see how it feels or play with Meego CE, but I last 5 minutes and go back to the Sensation.
It's like an old school car, you spend time and time again to make them run like you want and in the end a hot hatch is faster, more refined and has more features.
I had mine overclocked with kernels and faster with scripts and whatever else I could think or get from the maemo forums.
Tried the N9 in a store, it's nice and the UI I am sure will serve as a paradigm for later devices just like WebOS.
Having been trapped in a DEAD ecosystem with Nokia in the past I wouldn't buy it though.
We waited for 2 years for flash 10.1 which was promised on launch and we got NOTHING. Now N9ers are waiting for Alien Dalvik which might ore might not come and may not work with everything and may be OEM only.
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I still have my N900 after getting the Sensation. I thought I would still use it as a sidewinder for wifi hacking, navigation reading etc, but in the end it sits in a drawer.
I power it on once in a while to see how it feels or play with Meego CE, but I last 5 minutes and go back to the Sensation.
It's like an old school car, you spend time and time again to make them run like you want and in the end a hot hatch is faster, more refined and has more features.
I had mine overclocked with kernels and faster with scripts and whatever else I could think or get from the maemo forums.
Tried the N9 in a store, it's nice and the UI I am sure will serve as a paradigm for later devices just like WebOS.
Having been trapped in a DEAD ecosystem with Nokia in the past I wouldn't buy it though.
We waited for 2 years for flash 10.1 which was promised on launch and we got NOTHING. Now N9ers are waiting for Alien Dalvik which might ore might not come and may not work with everything and may be OEM only.
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Lol, I remember firing up that flasher to get PR1.2, etc etc. Waiting forever for flash 10.1, that apparent beta release that was just flash 9 but all it did was tell browsers it was flash 10. Flashing the kernel that allowed for the 1Ghz+ overclock. Never lasted long enough to see the community update though, heard it was "great" from the N900 diehards, which probably means it was decent at best.
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Lol, I remember firing up that flasher to get PR1.2, etc etc. Waiting forever for flash 10.1, that apparent beta release that was just flash 9 but all it did was tell browsers it was flash 10. Flashing the kernel that allowed for the 1Ghz+ overclock. Never lasted long enough to see the community update though, heard it was "great" from the N900 diehards, which probably means it was decent at best.
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Yeah, me too. CE edition is slow as hell and really has nothing whatsoever to do with the N9. Nitdroid was far more usable (I used to dual boot so I would get to know Android. btw N900 had GB way before some other high end phones of it's time).
In a strange mix of fortunes the N9 got Harmattan which was going to be Nokia's next step to Maemo and N900 got MeeGo (which was the bastard child of Moblin and Maemo).
Only thing they have in common is compatible apps.
This is getting odd I also had N900 prior Sensation. Is this a coincidence ?
As others said we were betrayed by Nokia. I'll admit I was a Nokia fanboy for a long time (too long maybe) but when I leared we're not getting anything that we were promised and our Ovi Store will be in BETA forever I decided to move to Android
ahh but N900 was a fun device, a true mobile computer in phone formfactor and fantastic community support ( MohammadAG and others are doing fantastic work)
Yeah i know what it means to be a ex-nokia lover, for me the N8x series got.my heart (N80,N82,N86) mainly because of camera.. did u ever use the N900 for wifi cracking?
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My favorites were the Nokia 6300b (not a smartphone), the N79, the N900, and although I never owned one, I really wanted an N96. I had two or three other Nokias, but they're not worth mentioning.
You guys complain about software support, but in ALL honesty, what the heck do you even want that the stock phones didn't have / they don't actually have in Ovi store?
I've started my nokias w/ E71 and am still running strong on E6. Almost all the basic features of your average android, but beastly battery and physical qwerty. I personally use my SGS2 as that fancy supercar, that you take outta your garage to play with once a week, and store it back because its rather impractical in everyday life.
Meego is not a bad system but Nokia N9 is last device with Meego so the support will die soon...That's why i don't recommend
Nokia N9 with MeeGo is too bad
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You guys complain about software support, but in ALL honesty, what the heck do you even want that the stock phones didn't have / they don't actually have in Ovi store?
I've started my nokias w/ E71 and am still running strong on E6. Almost all the basic features of your average android, but beastly battery and physical qwerty. I personally use my SGS2 as that fancy supercar, that you take outta your garage to play with once a week, and store it back because its rather impractical in everyday life.
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The N9 is actually snappier.
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The N9 is actually snappier.
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Yep, all true. I had all the phones in my sig, and actually N9 is the most amazing for a day to day use. I am completely happy with it.
Just picked up a 64 Black myself. Any chance of a small subforum for Meego devices?
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Just picked up a 64 Black myself.
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SEEEXY
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Just picked up a 64 Black myself. Any chance of a small subforum for Meego devices?
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What's the point? I doubt you will find too many N9 users here.
Just go to talk.maemo.org or official meego forums.
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SEEEXY
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Best looking mobile I've ever seen and held.
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What's the point? I doubt you will find too many N9 users here.
Just go to talk.maemo.org or official meego forums.
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I already am. It's always nice to have a different set of eyeballs looking at things and another place to call home.
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Best looking mobile I've ever seen and held.
I already am. It's always nice to have a different set of eyeballs looking at things and another place to call home.
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I almost wanted to trade my sensation for a 64gb N9, but then i found this theme ^^
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I couldnt be more happy ^^
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Very nice! But you are missing the hardware. The best looking device I have ever owned.
Had anyone here lost their patience with updates to android phones? I was an android fan. Peoples and manufactures tell us about all the possibilities it have, how open it was, all the features, all the promises.
But then i saw it was all a lie, when updates come with a half year or longer in delay. And developers cant do anything before a leak (im not blaming developers), so whats the deal with an open os?
My next phone is a windows mobile phone for sure.
(Yes, i have a galaxy note. Laggy as hell)
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Had anyone here lost their patience with updates to android phones? I was an android fan. Peoples and manufactures tell us about all the possibilities it have, how open it was, all the features, all the promises.
But then i saw it was all a lie, when updates come with a half year or longer in delay. And developers cant do anything before a leak (im not blaming developers), so whats the deal with an open os?
My next phone is a windows mobile phone for sure.
(Yes, i have a galaxy note. Laggy as hell)
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I just switched from Windows Phone ( HD7 ) to Galaxy Note. If you think the situation with updates looks any better on Windows Phone - you're wrong mate. Been waiting for Mango quite a long time - when it arrived, i had to flash a stock rom from other device cause they cut some features from it ( like internet sharing ) which are still oficially not there for some devices ( half a year later! ). There's next update Tango coming - which doesn't actually bring anything new except of low-end device support. And Apollo is scheduled for Q4 - and 1st gen devices "probably won't be getting it"
At least, with Android, you've got custom ROMs that get updated really quickly, big dev scene, the ability to install apps from all sources - and code/test/share your own apps without paying annual fee for having your phone dev-unlocked, and they don't cut features "just because there's a new device - so go buy it".
I love Windows Phone - as a regular phone. I kept waiting and waiting for changes - but the OS is still as locked down as it was in the beginning, no "not from market" apps, no drag-and-drop media, most of apps still dont support multitasking, cant even access your files, and apps from the market, believe me, are not that useful - that's why i moved away to Android.
I'd give it another thought mate - and about Note being laggy - try ICS AOSP rom, they run really smoothly.
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Had anyone here lost their patience with updates to android phones? I was an android fan. Peoples and manufactures tell us about all the possibilities it have, how open it was, all the features, all the promises.
But then i saw it was all a lie, when updates come with a half year or longer in delay. And developers cant do anything before a leak (im not blaming developers), so whats the deal with an open os?
My next phone is a windows mobile phone for sure.
(Yes, i have a galaxy note. Laggy as hell)
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Good riddance, bro. Want some cheese with that whine?
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(Yes, i have a galaxy note. Laggy as hell)
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Laggy as Hell ??? what the hell ? you want to take advantage of openness of Android and still u whinin? lots of custom rom already running smooth on Note...
i m using stock LC2 n its really smooth
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Had anyone here lost their patience with updates to android phones? I was an android fan. Peoples and manufactures tell us about all the possibilities it have, how open it was, all the features, all the promises.
But then i saw it was all a lie, when updates come with a half year or longer in delay. And developers cant do anything before a leak (im not blaming developers), so whats the deal with an open os?
My next phone is a windows mobile phone for sure.
(Yes, i have a galaxy note. Laggy as hell)
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I've never had any problems with Samsung's phones. The leaks provide enough of a base for us to get ICS working and Damn near perfect. I'm running an AOKP build with nearly Zero bugs and get almost 5-6 hours of SCREEN ON time per day with nearly 3 days of battery life with my usual texting and web surfing. Android is about being open, and as far as I'm concerned it is. Running ICS, I have had Zero lag, only one minor glitch (which is fixed in updated builds), better battery life than most of my friend's phones, a huge screen, and a OS that isn't crazy limited. If you change, it's obviously up to you, but I would go and test the many ICS roms out there like AOKP or ICStunner as they are simply amazing.
If you would rather have the WP7 then go for it. There's no point in us trying to convince you otherwise if you really have your mind set to it.
i was fan of android but the updates man o man do it 1 time in a month or so but every 2 a 3 day....update update....
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I got my device in december, and I've received 3 updates (maybe 4) since then. That's a lot of updates. I have no complaints. What you're whining about is not getting the absolute latest OS build right away. I'd much rather have Samsung pushing updates that make it a stable device than Samsung sending us crappy builds. That would defer me, and I'm sure many others who don't like to flash custom ROMs and such, to other devices. I believe Samsung is doing the correct thing and waiting until the ROM is properly developed.
Enjoy WM7. A lot of people seem to enjoy it! I was actually thinking about it, too, a while ago, but it kind of follows Apple's model of multitasking and that doesn't do it for me. Blackberry and Android are the OSs that offer true multitasking (webOS, too, but that seems to be dead in the eyes of HP/Palm lol).
The Note isn't laggy, Gingerbread is. ICS is silky smooth. Samsung needs to hurry up and get ICS on the Note because it shackles such a wonderful device. It's like Apple running the new iPad with iOS 3.0. Your phone is only as good as your software is, and Gingerbread is an antiquated POS.
I lose my patience on Android Market here in Finland, because it sucks compared to the USA Market and App Store.
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Had anyone here lost their patience with updates to android phones? I was an android fan. Peoples and manufactures tell us about all the possibilities it have, how open it was, all the features, all the promises.
But then i saw it was all a lie, when updates come with a half year or longer in delay. And developers cant do anything before a leak (im not blaming developers), so whats the deal with an open os?
My next phone is a windows mobile phone for sure.
(Yes, i have a galaxy note. Laggy as hell)
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Sell your Note and get a Windows Phone is my advice. That way you'll be moaning in somebody else's forum instead of ours.
I've had WinMo, iPhone, Symbian and more recently Android and Google's contribution is by far the best.
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I lose my patience on Android Market here in Finland, because it sucks compared to the USA Market and App Store.
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You can use market enabler and choose tmobile profile and then you can install every us app that you want. Restart and you will be using default provider flags again. So, there is no problem.
I am using lc1 stock rom, the best out there in my opinion, everything works and pretty fast too.
WP7 is no where near WM6.5 in terms of functionality and way behind Android, IOS too. Android is the best choose in terms of functionality and practicality from all the smartphone OSes out there.
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Had anyone here lost their patience with updates to android phones? I was an android fan. Peoples and manufactures tell us about all the possibilities it have, how open it was, all the features, all the promises.
But then i saw it was all a lie, when updates come with a half year or longer in delay. And developers cant do anything before a leak (im not blaming developers), so whats the deal with an open os?
My next phone is a windows mobile phone for sure.
(Yes, i have a galaxy note. Laggy as hell)
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Honestly shaolin it's people like you that makes devs abandon XDA for whining about everything and everyone! Go.. get a windows phone and when you do and see how limited windows phone is DON'T COME BACK! Stay away from XDA and honestly i hope i can speak in the name of the whole community:
Don't ever come to this forum whining!
I won a Galaxy Note and honestly, i bought my SGS2 without ever had tried Android and i love the possibilities it brings me! The openess on developing!
I simply love it! Had my first chance on SGS2 and i will continue to use this awesome SO!
Please ask an admin to ban your account and go somewhere else!
Bye bye. Enjoy whatever phone you'll be getting. Just remember, it's just a phone at the end of the day.
Im not the only one
Funny! zdnet journalist have the same thought as I do. you can read it here. http://www.zdnet.com/blog/perlow/im-sick-to-death-of-android/20242
Even Galaxy Nexus have delay in updates.
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Funny! zdnet journalist have the same thought as I do. you can read it here. http://www.zdnet.com/blog/perlow/im-sick-to-death-of-android/20242
Even Galaxy Nexus have delay in updates.
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I don't get folks like you. You actually purchase a phone for what it will be, as opposed to what it is.
Do you only live in the future? Don't forget the present mate.
If you're so unhappy with the lack of updates or the speed of updates, go get iOS and WP7. No one is grabbing you by the ball-sack to stay with Androids.
P.S. Requested to mods that this thread be moved to Android General as it has nothing to do with the Galaxy Note.
Actually I dont even want an update from Samsung any more,yesterday I recirved an update for the Samsung Apps after updating it stoped downloading applications alltogether!!,
"You cant download with this email from this country" bla ..bla..there was no way Icould fix that even after signing up for multiple new accounts.
If things will look like this I rather be left along with the GB.
Moved to teh OT forum as they will advice you better on what to do about your quandary
May the trolls have mercy on your soul mate.
You have a 1.4GHz dual core phone and Mali 400MP GPU and say it lags. My friend has a Wildfire that has a clock speed of 524MHz and no GPU and even he isn't complaining as much as you. Why don't you donate him your phone and make the good switch to Symbian S60?
what is even the point of this thread? It appears you looking to justify your feelings because you read an article and lack confidence to buy a new phone without a thread of people you don't know making a decision for you.
android is great
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Who else is super excited. The minute preview image is out, I'll flash it and remove android. Ubuntu should be faster, smoother and more battery friendly than android. And it sure looks beautiful.
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Who else is super excited. The minute preview image is out, I'll flash it and remove crappy android.
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Android is crappy?
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I'll flash it and remove crappy android.
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Good, a brave volunteer ! testing 1 2 . Keep us posted, it will be very interesting.
So far so good with Android here but Ubuntu will certainly be a great alternative.
I'm down for testing. I wont say I'd remove android altogether, but I'd love to see how far Ubuntu can take us...slacker radio better develop an app for it though or it will be short lived.
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I'll definitely try it out with MultiROM. Was disappointed with the current Ubuntu build so if there's a more finger friendly interface, that'd be awesome.
Everyone stop! CRAPPY android? Wtf dude...
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In front of Ubuntu it will be.
Android runs on a virtual machine and it will never change cause it has came a long way. It will always be more ram hungry than pure Linux based operating systems, it will always be slower, laggy and will always consume battery faster. That's why its crappy in front of Ubuntu, otherwise its the best os out right now, until Ubuntu drops. Sorry, but this truth. As much we all love android, it will always have the stamp of VIRTUAL MACHINE on its head.
huh ? The VM on android may not be as well polished as java/c# but for the tasks it is fast enough. native <> better. The first thing that I worry about is battery life in the case of ubuntu.
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This made me lol.
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I would love to multiboot android and Ubuntu tablet....... But I don't think android is crappy, even for a minute.
Android was slow and laggy and I have seen android grow everything since honeycomb. Android has come far and has the potential to shake the mobile industry.
Ubuntu on the other hand is an new blood and thus lack apps but if they are able to solve android's major problem like defragmentation it can kick both ios and android in the ballz...... But then again it all depends on the services beyond what the handset has to offer and also developer support.
Btw, a quick question: what browser if Ubuntu phone/tablet going to use? Any ideas?
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wtgserpant said:
I would love to multiboot android and Ubuntu tablet....... But I don't think android is crappy, even for a minute.
Android was slow and laggy and I have seen android grow everything since honeycomb. Android has come far and has the potential to shake the mobile industry.
Ubuntu on the other hand is an new blood and thus lack apps but if they are able to solve android's major problem like defragmentation it can kick both ios and android in the ballz...... But then again it all depends on the services beyond what the handset has to offer and also developer support.
Btw, a quick question: what browser if Ubuntu phone/tablet going to use? Any ideas?
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I'll change the words in op. I clearly meant android crappy in from of Ubuntu. Obviously android has some great features that will be hard to achieve by any other dev team. Though Ubuntu will be faster, smoother and way more battery friendly even on low end devices. Also ubuntu's ui looked beautiful in the demos of mobile version of the OS.
About apps, it will support android apps some way or another as both are Linux based. Their team confirmed that earlier.
And I think most important apps' native and html5 versions for ubuntu touch will come soon.
About browser and other core apps, seems all those will be included with os, made by Ubuntu Deva themselves. They demoed a beautiful gallery app.
PS - all those gestures will work nicely with those thick nexus 7 bezels.
And stop firing on me, I love android as much and maybe more than u guys but it has core problems that can't be fixed. Its latest and greatest version is just available on 12% of total android devices. -.-
The ability to use real pentesting tools on my tablet will make my job MUCH easier at times...less hauling a laptop around for wireless testing
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I'll change the words in op. I clearly meant android crappy in from of Ubuntu. Obviously android has some great features that will be hard to achieve by any other dev team. Though Ubuntu will be faster, smoother and way more battery friendly even on low end devices. Also ubuntu's ui looked beautiful in the demos of mobile version of the OS.
About apps, it will support android apps some way or another as both are Linux based. Their team confirmed that earlier.
And I think most important apps' native and html5 versions for ubuntu touch will come soon.
About browser and other core apps, seems all those will be included with os, made by Ubuntu Deva themselves. They demoed a beautiful gallery app.
PS - all those gestures will work nicely with those thick nexus 7 bezels.
And stop firing on me, I love android as much and maybe more than u guys but it has core problems that can't be fixed. Its latest and greatest version is just available on 12% of total android devices. -.-
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I appreciate your better explanation. "crappy Android" admittedly could have probably been worded a bit differently hence the reason the reaction you got.
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I appreciate your better explanation. "crappy Android" admittedly could have probably been worded a bit differently hence the reason the reaction you got.
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Well sometimes I get too angry. If my tablet with a 1.2 GHz quad core processor is slower than a Nokia lumia with a 800mhz processor then I think It shows android has its core problems.
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Well sometimes I get too angry. If my tablet with a 1.2 GHz quad core processor is slower than a Nokia lumia with a 800mhz processor then I think It shows android has its core problems.
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Yep i think the same way; i just got a lumia 505 cause i like how it looks and i do everything on my n7 so my live with walkman was kind of abandoned so i give it to my mom, and that lumia is a crappy 800 mhz snapdragon 1 with 256 mb of ram and sometimes it feels smoother than my 1.3 ghz quadcore tegra 3 with 1 gb of ram n7. Not good at all.
One question - will it support mobile data connection (2G, 3G?)
Otherwise - it's useless.
(like N10 with WiFi only, WTF?)
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One question - will it support mobile data connection (2G, 3G?)
Otherwise - it's useless.
(like N10 with WiFi only, WTF?)
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Obviously it will. Its different from the computer os, computer is only works if u dock ur phone/tablet as a computer. The dev team will explain the procedure when they will launch it.
I'll flash it where can in find it ?
For Nexus 10
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I'll flash it where can in find it ?
For Nexus 10
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Calm down bro. They will announce it tomorrow. Expect preview image for nexus 7 and 10 next month.