My upgrade is coming up in January but i want the Vibrant so badly that i think imma treat myself and pay full price for it, coz my current phone (omnia 2) is a so ****ty.
But reading all these lag/gps threads has put some second thoughts in my head and thinking of holding off and just upgrading in January and save a bit of cash as well or maybe even the torch.
What are your thoughts wait it out and see if samsung fixes the issues and not be out $500 or its worth buying now because the lag fixes fix everything and gps is not so bad?
if you need a new phone now, buy it
the problems you read are exaggerated as usual.
been using it for over a month using stock ROMs every feature works and no lags
GPS is a must thing for me, and it works as soon as i turn it on within 5~10sec
if you don't need a phone now
then wait for better phones coming out next year
well i don't want another phone and i think the vibrant is very nice better then my freezing and laggy omnia.
Get the vibrant now and save your upgrade for the next best thing next year. At $520 tax in its a steal now that you can unlock it for free.
My advise is wait for the September update, to see what happens. I don't care about the lag personally, but the GPS could be better (even though I don't use it really).
We'll know for sure then if the GPS will work. Because it is likely other devices with competing specs to this phone will be released, and if they support GPS better (and have ATMEL too), you'd be better off waiting.
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My advise is wait for the September update, to see what happens. I don't care about the lag personally, but the GPS could be better (even though I don't use it really).
We'll know for sure then if the GPS will work. Because it is likely other devices with competing specs to this phone will be released, and if they support GPS better (and have ATMEL too), you'd be better off waiting.
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thats th kind of advice i'm looking for, what devices would one be looking forward too that is par with the vibrant?
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thats th kind of advice i'm looking for, what devices would one be looking forward too that is par with the vibrant?
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Any of the new HTC phones, including the Desire HD. They admittedly have the now infamous 1Ghz snapdragon but theres a good possibility they are paired with an Adreno 205 (which has a graphics chipset based on Power VR SGX 535). That would give the HTC phones equal performance considering froyo + will be better optimised for snapdragon processors.
Graphics performance is not as good as the galaxy s chipset but good enough.
HTC's in general I've found are better built but now were encroaching on personal preference territory. This may be simply because HTC have had more time to perfect android or just Ive had a more solid experience with HTC android phones.
rest assured there will be a whole flood of non-samsung androids come christmas so perhaps hold off till end of September and pick the best price/feature phone at that time. More exciting is the prospect of google tv, greater adoption and connection of android devices.
p.s. theres also windows mobile and its host of offerings.
In regards to Windows Mobile, unfortunately, Microsoft seems to have joined the party much too late (which is a pity actually). I don't believe WM7 will survive, because Blackberry owns the corporate market, Apple owns the home market, Symbian/custom OS's owns the cheaper smartphone market and Android owns the technical market (although, it is now accelerating it's growth).
Btw, the SGS isn't the only phone having issues. On the iPhone, people are still having issues with the proximity sensor, and the only solution for iPhone users for the antenna is to use a bumper if they suffer for the issue (or become right handed).
Yep, and the Nexus One wasn't perfect either:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/186399/google_faces_deluge_of_nexus_one_complaints.html . Remember that? And now, people LOVE the nexus one.
The main issue seems to be GPS though on this phone, as people who oppose the lag found switching to EXT fixes their issue.. But GPS, there was no known solution. So whilst there may be similar phones released in september, I forgot to mention you should either wait to see what GPS does, or wait a while before grabbing another phone (because they might have other serious issues on release).
But be cautious about claims made in forums, and wait until you see proof (even here). One idiot who owned a Sony Ericson blog claimed with authority that this phone definitely had 360MB RAM (rather than the full 512), I see people constantly grab quadrant and take note of every 0.5%-1% increase in score they see and try to correlate them to speed of the ROM (because 1% increase in quadrant would be visibly noticeable?) and I've seen people claim that because NMEA sends dodgy packets, the problem is DEFINITELY hardware, without checking if the drivers, or the device is sending them.
Make sure you wait for sufficient evidence. If the GPS DOES get fixed though, and tracking software consistently shows accurate tracks (when sitting down and moving), I'd personally recommend selecting this phone, because unlike the current competing devices, it has good hardware (even a proper multitouch controller), and we mostly know it's problems and limitations now.
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Btw, the SGS isn't the only phone having issues. On the iPhone, people are still having issues with the proximity sensor, and the only solution for iPhone users for the antenna is to use a bumper if they suffer for the issue (or become right handed).
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Even the HTC Desired have (had) the problem with the proximity sensor, good thing our great team at XDA made a hack to fix that.
unfortunately or fortunately depending how you look at it, iphone people are not as free to do as they please with their phones.
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Buy it
This Phone is SWEET.
sending a playlist to my windows 7 computer, which connects to my stereo with an outdoor speaker, while sitting outside drinking wine and smoking a cigar. Priceless.
This phone Rocks. buy one, hell buy two lol.
I ordered one yesterday, coming from an Omnia HD with Symbian on it I reckon this will be a pretty huge upgrade. Even given the minor bugs there is. I'll put my trust in that Samsung will fix those bugs in Froyo which is coming in less than a month anyway.
Am I the only one here who came from a K750i, or another ancient dumbphone?
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Am I the only one here who came from a K750i, or another ancient dumbphone?
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Not in public please!
OP - Mine was delivered yesterday - I'd say buy one. It's awesome!
I'd definitely recommend waiting, but not because of the lag/gps ; Gingerbread should allow for some awesome phones come this holiday season(mainly phones with a higher res).
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I ordered one yesterday, coming from an Omnia HD with Symbian on it I reckon this will be a pretty huge upgrade. Even given the minor bugs there is. I'll put my trust in that Samsung will fix those bugs in Froyo which is coming in less than a month anyway.
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Also figured I'd mention that coming from AMOLED; I don't think I'd able to downgrade that. The washed out blacks are so dreadful. Super AMOLED promising even better contrasts (and actually working in sunlight) can only be a winner. I did consider waiting for Desire HD, but choose not to, purely because of the screen.
What do you guys think are the chances of i9000 getting gingerbread ???
Samsung said official 2.2 will be around september, and 3.0 will be launched around mid-october , so maybe we will have 3.0 for i9000 around february
Desire HD will launch around mid-september , it will come with 2.2, and will probably get 3.0 in december - january
Nobody knows.. Nobody even knows what the specs for gingerbread are. Any reply would be guesses izmenar. The only reason we probably wouldn't get it, is if it required dual core, but dual core mobile CPU's aren't being released for a while
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Tegra 2 should have a dual core Cortex-A9.
Only thing we know for sure is that custom UIs won't be supported in Gingerbread.
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Tegra 2 should have a dual core Cortex-A9.
Only thing we know for sure is that custom UIs won't be supported in Gingerbread.
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Did Google say that, or was it rumored
Hi there,
i have my Galaxy S for about 2 Weeks and i am happy with it.
The Display is very clear (even with an lower resolution than the IP4).
No jailbreaking or something else to get some stuff working on this nice phone.
Nice functions and a good UI.
Great phone!
...only GPS sucks a little bit, but i hope this will be fixed
Greetings
DerRaven
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A couple of months ago, when I discovered that the new iphone would support exchange I admit to becoming quite interested in it, as luck would have it I spooted the up and coming diamond and decided to stick with what I know and like (WM). I have had my diamond for a month now and I love it!
Out of interest I looked at some iphone forums today to see how people are getting on with their new toys - result - I am gobsmacked! Loads of problems reported on 3g reception (for which the stock answer on the forums appears to be turn off 3g!) Loads of problems with battery life (for which the stock answers appear to be turn off 3g, don't use WIFI and carry a charger with you at all times) Loads of problems with exchange (is it push or pull?), build quality issues, activation issues (including some guy being chased out of a US apple store and assualted by some "activation monkey" security types because he did not follow the correct in store procedures), the list goes on.
Of course, many punters are very happy with theie purchase but unlike these forums, there appears to me to be a strong tendency to deny that anything could possibly be amiss with the "Jesus" phones' second coming on the basis that any flaw is actually some kind of feature deliberately prescribed by messr Jobs et al.
At leat on XDA-Devs, people are generally honest about issues with their devices and there are plenty of smart folk delivering improvements every day.
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At leat on XDA-Devs, people are generally honest about issues with their devices and there are plenty of smart folk delivering improvements every day.
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Well, I beg to differ.... Remember the whole "accelerated drivers" debacle?
I'd say that the main difference between iPhone lovers and WM people is another one...
1) cupertino lovers, for THE most part, do NOT really care about deficiencies, they just wait for Apple to solve them (which they will do soon enough).
2) WM people are just the opposite: they actively go out and look for solutions.
On the other side, both communities have a strong core of really talented people struggling hard to make their devices work beyond the levels they where supposed to (I don't have to make names, do I?..) The jailbreaking system is really an amazing work of hacking... and it's comparable to having WM5, WM6 and now WM6.1 run on 4 years old phones. Don't you agree?
i agree
i am very interested in gettin the iphone, though i have been drinkin that haterade, nvr been a fan of it, and im gettin on a new contract too... i will be able to keep my tilt and the iphone if i decide to get one, but on the other hand if att brings the tilt2 in sept. or oct. i would rather get that, wut should i do? but i really wanna try that 3g iphone, and battery has always been a prob. wit da iphone.
Im looking at it, but eBay prices put me off. It's only because I lost my P1i, and have 15 months left on my contract. But it's no problem, I've had 6 phones in the last year, so changing during contract isn't a problem. The £450 for 8gb is. I might go to a shop and check the speed of the old iphone on edge. Im on o2 anyway so no problem with unlocking.
But I really do respect how apple have actually taken into account all people said about the original (except for the camera)
just my 2 pence!!
Rory
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Another difference between iPhone and WM users:
1. WM users wonder what sex would be like in zero gravity.
2. iPhone users wonder what sex would be like.
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Another difference between iPhone and WM users:
1. WM users wonder what sex would be like in zero gravity.
2. iPhone users wonder what sex would be like.
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Well those were some interesting replies. You have to admit though that the power of the Apple marketing machine is awesome - I mean these things (Iphone or WM) are only tools at the end of the day, but the emotion they can generate.............
I will say this. Some of the iPhone Apps look pretty amazing, especially the planetarium ones. It kind of pisses me off that we WM people cannot get the same quality of apps in that regard. Perhaps when 640x480 gets better adoption the apps will get prettier.
All in all, the iphone apps suck, I mean you gotta have your face book app your yelp app, your myspace app..blahblah, but in the area of starmaps, it appears iphone wins hands down. (of course they get to standardize on one resolution which is higher than most wm resolutions)
I don't know what category I fit in because I've got an iPhone and a Touch and I love them both. The iPhone is for play and the Touch is for business. Both are sexy devices.
My iPhone (original) arrives Monday hopefully. I was going to get the Diamond, but getting an 8GB iPhone for £190 is a steal in my opinion. Compared to £400 plus for the Diamond.
Plus, I'll still have my Athena for the huge screen. I may even experiment with connecting the iPhone to my Athena via USB. Hmmm...
(Covers face in anticipation of stoning)
Rory
I hope you will be very happy with your crippled device.
I am very happy with it. You can all laugh, but I've still got the most expensive PPC HTC have ever made too, so I've got the best of both worlds. But if I get an EEE, the Athena might have to go. But then I'm left 3G-less... Hmm
Rory
Well I bought an iPhone 3G for my girlfriend, took 10 minutes to walk in, get iPhone, and come out activated... No monkeys. I guess I missed out on the fun. As for battery life, no worse than other PPC/Smartphones I've used... The exchange I've heard bad things about, but my girlfriend is 23 and blonde, she doesn't know what push and pull means except when it comes to... Well, nevermind. Overall I think the iPhone is the best device available in North America (where I'm stuck), but I'm waiting on a Touch Pro. I'd never say your idea to grab the Diamond over the iPhone was wrong, but I'd have basically no service here, so that kinda puts a bad taste to the HTC.
Actually the iPhone 3G is right for some people. It is limited in what it does but those things it does do very well. If it does all that you need then fine. Personally I need a bit more and the Diamond gives that.
Well said, I agree completely. For my girlfriend, the iPhone 3G is perfect... Everything she needs and then some. For me? A bit lacking... Hence me waiting for the Touch Pro while using this little POS Sony Ericsson Z310a.
I love my iPhone lol. Everything is so esay on it. And this is coming form someone who has owned 6 HTC phones and 1 UIQ device in the last year.
It trumps them all for me. But this is me. When there is a reason to jailbreak it, I will. I haven't yet because I'm on O2, so don't need it unlocked, and because there are no launchers or apps for 2.0 yet so...
But I am finding it hard to find fault with it, and I'm sure an upgrade to the 3G one will come when the price is more like £300 - £350 rather than £450 - £500.
That said, I do love the way on all my WM phones, I could download any one of a million cabs and it would probably work, no such luck with my iPhone. The google app is great but is basically just links to the web versions of things. Apple remote for itunes won't work properly, Carling's iPint is funny but lasts about 2 minutes as a game, and all the rest of the good apps cost, and I'm not prepared to pay.
Jailbreaking will probably bring pirated apps I guess.
But one last thing, no matter what I've seen anyone do on wm to wmulate the iPhone, nothing comes close to it's smoothness. But it does have a Diamond-like lag in that it loads the background to the app, then about a second later the rest of it. Similar to the diamond loading tabs from what I've seen.
Anyways, I'm not some iPhone fanboy as you can probably see from my join date and post count (although a bunch of my posts are, I will admit, pretty useless) So don't come over here flaming me for foriming aa balanced opinion.
Rory
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/08/...oops-in-brutally-honest-burnin/#disqus_thread
With the monsoon tidal wave ultra onslaught of that which is android, and in addition to all the other OS's (be it iOS, WP7, or WebOS) they've got some stiff competition from all sides. And it's only going to get...stiffer.
So.
What do you guys think? I really don't know what to expect. On one hand...it's freaking Nokia! They can't be defeated with their vast numbers!! On the other hand.... every time I open Tech Blog____ and read about the monstrous market share eating monster that is android... well they could soon have the vast numbers.
Then there's Apple. I'm sure Nokia is aware of their existence. WP7 has MS backing of course, and WebOS has HP.
Nokia! Sink or swim?
I also humbly request a genuine discussion... /no hardcore platform bashing
they shall be fine , their mid-low range phones sell in europ like chezeburgers in the usa
I have never bought or used a Nokia.
It's mainly for politically reasons, Nokia have profilated it self as a Pro EU company from a pro EU country. I simply don't like the EU and hence Nokia.
What will happen to Nokia perhaps going the same way as Siemens.
Wasn't that german company bought by the Benq?
What happened to the Benq-siemens, I just know that I never would buy anything from nor Siemens or Benq nor from Benq-Siemens.
Maybe the last thing Nokia will do is bringing a upcoming (and greedy) Asian company down the drain with them.
Anything thats bad for EU-economics means a hope for freedom from the "EU ist freiheit macht centralizing, sieg hail EU"
basically ur saying their a globalists and thats why u dont buy , thats fine
but u would be very hardly pressed to find a company that isnt affiliated with globalism in any way
Google to enlist NSA to help it ward off cyberattacks
i dont even have to start about apple
Move to android , symbian is dead
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they shall be fine , their mid-low range phones sell in europ like chezeburgers in the usa
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Hmmm... Them Americans do like their cheezburgerz...
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Hmmm... Them Americans do like their cheezburgerz...
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We can't help it, it's just sooooo tasty
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I'm praying for a Nokia/Android combo. It's gonna give HTC/Android a run for its money.
Mobile world is changing, the big companies will have to adapt to the "new way"
I can see it out of the 1st place easily
Nokia and android
Nokia has exceptional hardware.. even n series can run android. if they can come into android..no body can beat them. its an unbeatable combo..
Some special must happen...and then may be they will be well
Apparently Nokia have scrapped their first Meego running device. I'm assuming that they are planning to start using either Android or WP7 on their future smartphones.
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Apparently Nokia have scrapped their first Meego running device. I'm assuming that they are planning to start using either Android or WP7 on their future smartphones.
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Rumour puts it at WinPhone 7, but I'm still hoping that Nokia understands that Android is the way to go
I'm glad to see this thread, I actually started a similar one on another forum a while back.
http://androidforums.com/lounge/184006-where-hell-nokia-smartphone-craze.html
I just don't understand why America hasn't seen any smartphone action from Nokia. When I got my myTouch 3G I remember thinking, "Hey! Where the hell did Nokia go, anwyay?"
I think if Nokia can re-structure internally and come out looking like HTC then sure they might be able to come back. Provide great hardware and an even better smartphone experience... hmm.
But the hardware would have to be superior and the software would have to be better then Sense. Not a small feat for a company that is 3 years behind the 8 ball.
And if they were really smart they would have WebOS and Win7 options also. I haven't seen a Nokia phone in the states here for years and totally forgot all about them.
So... their Marketing dept would need to be re-vamped to pimp their products too
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I think if Nokia can re-structure internally and come out looking like HTC then sure they might be able to come back. Provide great hardware and an even better smartphone experience... hmm.
But the hardware would have to be superior and the software would have to be better then Sense. Not a small feat for a company that is 3 years behind the 8 ball.
And if they were really smart they would have WebOS and Win7 options also. I haven't seen a Nokia phone in the states here for years and totally forgot all about them.
So... their Marketing dept would need to be re-vamped to pimp their products too
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If Nokia's HARDWARE QC process was tighter than HTC's I would jump ship. I LOVE my MT4G but the hardware issues (many people have exchanged their phone FOUR TIMES, including me!) are just ****ing ridiculous.
Get it together, HTC!!
If Nokia built me a 4 inch touch screen with comparable specs to the MT4G but a faster camera and the charge port on my bottom I would consider letting go of the myTouch.
EDIT - LOL, charge port on THE bottom! Not MY BOTTOM. Haha, I'm leaving that up there.
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If Nokia's HARDWARE QC process was tighter than HTC's I would jump ship. I LOVE my MT4G but the hardware issues (many people have exchanged their phone FOUR TIMES, including me!) are just ****ing ridiculous.
Get it together, HTC!!
If Nokia built me a 4 inch touch screen with comparable specs to the MT4G but a faster camera and the charge port on my bottom I would consider letting go of the myTouch.
EDIT - LOL, charge port on THE bottom! Not MY BOTTOM. Haha, I'm leaving that up there.
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So... you like... wanna meet up or something so I can charge you up?
LOL!
And yeah, I really wish that Nokia would take the HTC route and pimp themselves out for the OSes.
Android is about to flourish exponentially due to Nokia killing off symbian and preparing for massive layoffs.
I expect a huge percentage to move to Google and the Android team.
News flash: Nokia went over to Windows. Guess now they are jumping into an ocean filled with sharks
i never liked nokia nor their smartphones.
nokia is the leading phone company in the middle east, if i write nokia on my phone i can sell it for $300
they never made a "perfect phone" they always tend to remove something and add something else instead.
and now that they chose windows phone the whole arabian commutnity will have a wp7 device and i wont be special anymore
and the last thing i would like to see is nokia on xda, f*** man!
After your time with sensation and sense, did anyone try the N9? How does meego feel?
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I was one of those people waiting for Meego 2 years ago. Eventually I got tired of waiting and moved on to Android. Meego is a great concept with so much potentials, but its 2 years late into the game. Nokia already picked Windows Phone as the primary OS for their devices, who knows how much support will Meego get from Nokia. Meego will suffer the same faith as Maemo on the N900. Great community support, but no developer supports. If you really like the hardware design of the N9, the Nokia Lumia 800 is the closest thing you get, but with windows running on it. Meego is just too little too late...
I had an N900 that I thought I loved, thanks to it's power. However, one of the big issues with it for me was the laggy UI and non-GPU accelerated aspect of it. Android isn't GPU accelerated until 4.0, but it usually feels butter smooth anyway (on the right phones). The N900's UI was like 10 to 15 FPS max. Laggy and slow as hell. That really, really bothered me.
Then, Nokia said "Eff you guys, no more support from us". And that was the last Nokia I ever bought; the end.
I still have my N900 after getting the Sensation. I thought I would still use it as a sidewinder for wifi hacking, navigation reading etc, but in the end it sits in a drawer.
I power it on once in a while to see how it feels or play with Meego CE, but I last 5 minutes and go back to the Sensation.
It's like an old school car, you spend time and time again to make them run like you want and in the end a hot hatch is faster, more refined and has more features.
I had mine overclocked with kernels and faster with scripts and whatever else I could think or get from the maemo forums.
Tried the N9 in a store, it's nice and the UI I am sure will serve as a paradigm for later devices just like WebOS.
Having been trapped in a DEAD ecosystem with Nokia in the past I wouldn't buy it though.
We waited for 2 years for flash 10.1 which was promised on launch and we got NOTHING. Now N9ers are waiting for Alien Dalvik which might ore might not come and may not work with everything and may be OEM only.
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I still have my N900 after getting the Sensation. I thought I would still use it as a sidewinder for wifi hacking, navigation reading etc, but in the end it sits in a drawer.
I power it on once in a while to see how it feels or play with Meego CE, but I last 5 minutes and go back to the Sensation.
It's like an old school car, you spend time and time again to make them run like you want and in the end a hot hatch is faster, more refined and has more features.
I had mine overclocked with kernels and faster with scripts and whatever else I could think or get from the maemo forums.
Tried the N9 in a store, it's nice and the UI I am sure will serve as a paradigm for later devices just like WebOS.
Having been trapped in a DEAD ecosystem with Nokia in the past I wouldn't buy it though.
We waited for 2 years for flash 10.1 which was promised on launch and we got NOTHING. Now N9ers are waiting for Alien Dalvik which might ore might not come and may not work with everything and may be OEM only.
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Lol, I remember firing up that flasher to get PR1.2, etc etc. Waiting forever for flash 10.1, that apparent beta release that was just flash 9 but all it did was tell browsers it was flash 10. Flashing the kernel that allowed for the 1Ghz+ overclock. Never lasted long enough to see the community update though, heard it was "great" from the N900 diehards, which probably means it was decent at best.
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Lol, I remember firing up that flasher to get PR1.2, etc etc. Waiting forever for flash 10.1, that apparent beta release that was just flash 9 but all it did was tell browsers it was flash 10. Flashing the kernel that allowed for the 1Ghz+ overclock. Never lasted long enough to see the community update though, heard it was "great" from the N900 diehards, which probably means it was decent at best.
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Yeah, me too. CE edition is slow as hell and really has nothing whatsoever to do with the N9. Nitdroid was far more usable (I used to dual boot so I would get to know Android. btw N900 had GB way before some other high end phones of it's time).
In a strange mix of fortunes the N9 got Harmattan which was going to be Nokia's next step to Maemo and N900 got MeeGo (which was the bastard child of Moblin and Maemo).
Only thing they have in common is compatible apps.
This is getting odd I also had N900 prior Sensation. Is this a coincidence ?
As others said we were betrayed by Nokia. I'll admit I was a Nokia fanboy for a long time (too long maybe) but when I leared we're not getting anything that we were promised and our Ovi Store will be in BETA forever I decided to move to Android
ahh but N900 was a fun device, a true mobile computer in phone formfactor and fantastic community support ( MohammadAG and others are doing fantastic work)
Yeah i know what it means to be a ex-nokia lover, for me the N8x series got.my heart (N80,N82,N86) mainly because of camera.. did u ever use the N900 for wifi cracking?
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My favorites were the Nokia 6300b (not a smartphone), the N79, the N900, and although I never owned one, I really wanted an N96. I had two or three other Nokias, but they're not worth mentioning.
You guys complain about software support, but in ALL honesty, what the heck do you even want that the stock phones didn't have / they don't actually have in Ovi store?
I've started my nokias w/ E71 and am still running strong on E6. Almost all the basic features of your average android, but beastly battery and physical qwerty. I personally use my SGS2 as that fancy supercar, that you take outta your garage to play with once a week, and store it back because its rather impractical in everyday life.
Meego is not a bad system but Nokia N9 is last device with Meego so the support will die soon...That's why i don't recommend
Nokia N9 with MeeGo is too bad
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You guys complain about software support, but in ALL honesty, what the heck do you even want that the stock phones didn't have / they don't actually have in Ovi store?
I've started my nokias w/ E71 and am still running strong on E6. Almost all the basic features of your average android, but beastly battery and physical qwerty. I personally use my SGS2 as that fancy supercar, that you take outta your garage to play with once a week, and store it back because its rather impractical in everyday life.
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The N9 is actually snappier.
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The N9 is actually snappier.
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Yep, all true. I had all the phones in my sig, and actually N9 is the most amazing for a day to day use. I am completely happy with it.
Just picked up a 64 Black myself. Any chance of a small subforum for Meego devices?
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Just picked up a 64 Black myself.
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SEEEXY
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bmstrong said:
Just picked up a 64 Black myself. Any chance of a small subforum for Meego devices?
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What's the point? I doubt you will find too many N9 users here.
Just go to talk.maemo.org or official meego forums.
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Xxul said:
SEEEXY
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Best looking mobile I've ever seen and held.
Pikabat said:
What's the point? I doubt you will find too many N9 users here.
Just go to talk.maemo.org or official meego forums.
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I already am. It's always nice to have a different set of eyeballs looking at things and another place to call home.
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Best looking mobile I've ever seen and held.
I already am. It's always nice to have a different set of eyeballs looking at things and another place to call home.
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I almost wanted to trade my sensation for a 64gb N9, but then i found this theme ^^
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I couldnt be more happy ^^
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Very nice! But you are missing the hardware. The best looking device I have ever owned.
Had anyone here lost their patience with updates to android phones? I was an android fan. Peoples and manufactures tell us about all the possibilities it have, how open it was, all the features, all the promises.
But then i saw it was all a lie, when updates come with a half year or longer in delay. And developers cant do anything before a leak (im not blaming developers), so whats the deal with an open os?
My next phone is a windows mobile phone for sure.
(Yes, i have a galaxy note. Laggy as hell)
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Had anyone here lost their patience with updates to android phones? I was an android fan. Peoples and manufactures tell us about all the possibilities it have, how open it was, all the features, all the promises.
But then i saw it was all a lie, when updates come with a half year or longer in delay. And developers cant do anything before a leak (im not blaming developers), so whats the deal with an open os?
My next phone is a windows mobile phone for sure.
(Yes, i have a galaxy note. Laggy as hell)
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I just switched from Windows Phone ( HD7 ) to Galaxy Note. If you think the situation with updates looks any better on Windows Phone - you're wrong mate. Been waiting for Mango quite a long time - when it arrived, i had to flash a stock rom from other device cause they cut some features from it ( like internet sharing ) which are still oficially not there for some devices ( half a year later! ). There's next update Tango coming - which doesn't actually bring anything new except of low-end device support. And Apollo is scheduled for Q4 - and 1st gen devices "probably won't be getting it"
At least, with Android, you've got custom ROMs that get updated really quickly, big dev scene, the ability to install apps from all sources - and code/test/share your own apps without paying annual fee for having your phone dev-unlocked, and they don't cut features "just because there's a new device - so go buy it".
I love Windows Phone - as a regular phone. I kept waiting and waiting for changes - but the OS is still as locked down as it was in the beginning, no "not from market" apps, no drag-and-drop media, most of apps still dont support multitasking, cant even access your files, and apps from the market, believe me, are not that useful - that's why i moved away to Android.
I'd give it another thought mate - and about Note being laggy - try ICS AOSP rom, they run really smoothly.
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Had anyone here lost their patience with updates to android phones? I was an android fan. Peoples and manufactures tell us about all the possibilities it have, how open it was, all the features, all the promises.
But then i saw it was all a lie, when updates come with a half year or longer in delay. And developers cant do anything before a leak (im not blaming developers), so whats the deal with an open os?
My next phone is a windows mobile phone for sure.
(Yes, i have a galaxy note. Laggy as hell)
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Good riddance, bro. Want some cheese with that whine?
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(Yes, i have a galaxy note. Laggy as hell)
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Laggy as Hell ??? what the hell ? you want to take advantage of openness of Android and still u whinin? lots of custom rom already running smooth on Note...
i m using stock LC2 n its really smooth
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Had anyone here lost their patience with updates to android phones? I was an android fan. Peoples and manufactures tell us about all the possibilities it have, how open it was, all the features, all the promises.
But then i saw it was all a lie, when updates come with a half year or longer in delay. And developers cant do anything before a leak (im not blaming developers), so whats the deal with an open os?
My next phone is a windows mobile phone for sure.
(Yes, i have a galaxy note. Laggy as hell)
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I've never had any problems with Samsung's phones. The leaks provide enough of a base for us to get ICS working and Damn near perfect. I'm running an AOKP build with nearly Zero bugs and get almost 5-6 hours of SCREEN ON time per day with nearly 3 days of battery life with my usual texting and web surfing. Android is about being open, and as far as I'm concerned it is. Running ICS, I have had Zero lag, only one minor glitch (which is fixed in updated builds), better battery life than most of my friend's phones, a huge screen, and a OS that isn't crazy limited. If you change, it's obviously up to you, but I would go and test the many ICS roms out there like AOKP or ICStunner as they are simply amazing.
If you would rather have the WP7 then go for it. There's no point in us trying to convince you otherwise if you really have your mind set to it.
i was fan of android but the updates man o man do it 1 time in a month or so but every 2 a 3 day....update update....
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I got my device in december, and I've received 3 updates (maybe 4) since then. That's a lot of updates. I have no complaints. What you're whining about is not getting the absolute latest OS build right away. I'd much rather have Samsung pushing updates that make it a stable device than Samsung sending us crappy builds. That would defer me, and I'm sure many others who don't like to flash custom ROMs and such, to other devices. I believe Samsung is doing the correct thing and waiting until the ROM is properly developed.
Enjoy WM7. A lot of people seem to enjoy it! I was actually thinking about it, too, a while ago, but it kind of follows Apple's model of multitasking and that doesn't do it for me. Blackberry and Android are the OSs that offer true multitasking (webOS, too, but that seems to be dead in the eyes of HP/Palm lol).
The Note isn't laggy, Gingerbread is. ICS is silky smooth. Samsung needs to hurry up and get ICS on the Note because it shackles such a wonderful device. It's like Apple running the new iPad with iOS 3.0. Your phone is only as good as your software is, and Gingerbread is an antiquated POS.
I lose my patience on Android Market here in Finland, because it sucks compared to the USA Market and App Store.
007shaolin said:
Had anyone here lost their patience with updates to android phones? I was an android fan. Peoples and manufactures tell us about all the possibilities it have, how open it was, all the features, all the promises.
But then i saw it was all a lie, when updates come with a half year or longer in delay. And developers cant do anything before a leak (im not blaming developers), so whats the deal with an open os?
My next phone is a windows mobile phone for sure.
(Yes, i have a galaxy note. Laggy as hell)
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Sell your Note and get a Windows Phone is my advice. That way you'll be moaning in somebody else's forum instead of ours.
I've had WinMo, iPhone, Symbian and more recently Android and Google's contribution is by far the best.
SaneQ said:
I lose my patience on Android Market here in Finland, because it sucks compared to the USA Market and App Store.
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You can use market enabler and choose tmobile profile and then you can install every us app that you want. Restart and you will be using default provider flags again. So, there is no problem.
I am using lc1 stock rom, the best out there in my opinion, everything works and pretty fast too.
WP7 is no where near WM6.5 in terms of functionality and way behind Android, IOS too. Android is the best choose in terms of functionality and practicality from all the smartphone OSes out there.
007shaolin said:
Had anyone here lost their patience with updates to android phones? I was an android fan. Peoples and manufactures tell us about all the possibilities it have, how open it was, all the features, all the promises.
But then i saw it was all a lie, when updates come with a half year or longer in delay. And developers cant do anything before a leak (im not blaming developers), so whats the deal with an open os?
My next phone is a windows mobile phone for sure.
(Yes, i have a galaxy note. Laggy as hell)
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Honestly shaolin it's people like you that makes devs abandon XDA for whining about everything and everyone! Go.. get a windows phone and when you do and see how limited windows phone is DON'T COME BACK! Stay away from XDA and honestly i hope i can speak in the name of the whole community:
Don't ever come to this forum whining!
I won a Galaxy Note and honestly, i bought my SGS2 without ever had tried Android and i love the possibilities it brings me! The openess on developing!
I simply love it! Had my first chance on SGS2 and i will continue to use this awesome SO!
Please ask an admin to ban your account and go somewhere else!
Bye bye. Enjoy whatever phone you'll be getting. Just remember, it's just a phone at the end of the day.
Im not the only one
Funny! zdnet journalist have the same thought as I do. you can read it here. http://www.zdnet.com/blog/perlow/im-sick-to-death-of-android/20242
Even Galaxy Nexus have delay in updates.
007shaolin said:
Funny! zdnet journalist have the same thought as I do. you can read it here. http://www.zdnet.com/blog/perlow/im-sick-to-death-of-android/20242
Even Galaxy Nexus have delay in updates.
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I don't get folks like you. You actually purchase a phone for what it will be, as opposed to what it is.
Do you only live in the future? Don't forget the present mate.
If you're so unhappy with the lack of updates or the speed of updates, go get iOS and WP7. No one is grabbing you by the ball-sack to stay with Androids.
P.S. Requested to mods that this thread be moved to Android General as it has nothing to do with the Galaxy Note.
Actually I dont even want an update from Samsung any more,yesterday I recirved an update for the Samsung Apps after updating it stoped downloading applications alltogether!!,
"You cant download with this email from this country" bla ..bla..there was no way Icould fix that even after signing up for multiple new accounts.
If things will look like this I rather be left along with the GB.
Moved to teh OT forum as they will advice you better on what to do about your quandary
May the trolls have mercy on your soul mate.
You have a 1.4GHz dual core phone and Mali 400MP GPU and say it lags. My friend has a Wildfire that has a clock speed of 524MHz and no GPU and even he isn't complaining as much as you. Why don't you donate him your phone and make the good switch to Symbian S60?
what is even the point of this thread? It appears you looking to justify your feelings because you read an article and lack confidence to buy a new phone without a thread of people you don't know making a decision for you.
android is great
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I love that this is finally happening, and I think there's a part being played by HTC in this one.
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Samsung is quickly learning what Apple learned last fall: When expectations are sky-high, it doesn’t take much to send them crashing back down to earth. Reuters reports that Samsung “lost $12 billion in market value on Friday, hit by brokerage downgrades that have underscored concerns about slowing sales of its flagship Galaxy S4 smartphone.” The reason for the rapid crash in Samsung’s stock price is reports that sales of its high-end Galaxy S4 are expected to come in below earlier estimates even as sales of its lower-end devices continue to be brisk. Take those two factors together and you’ve got some real worries about whether Samsung’s upcoming profits will live up to expectations — or as Kim Young-chan, an analyst at Shinhan Investment Corp, tells Reuters, “This has also sparked concerns about thinning margins and lower growth.”
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m7! m7! m7! suck it shamesung.
I love my HTC, but Samsung makes great products too. It is disappointing they didn't do much new this time around but they're doing well supporting older devices too.
Either way, this could happen to anyone, even HTC. The higher you climb to the top, the higher expectations are. Eventually you reach a point where there isn't really that much else you can deliver at the time (perhaps lack of available technology). The rise to the top will eventually level off and others will catch up until most of the market is relatively equal. Or you bomb and fall to the bottom.
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I love my HTC, but Samsung makes great products too. It is disappointing they didn't do much new this time around but they're doing well supporting older devices too.
Either way, this could happen to anyone, even HTC. The higher you climb to the top, the higher expectations are. Eventually you reach a point where there isn't really that much else you can deliver at the time (perhaps lack of available technology). The rise to the top will eventually level off and others will catch up until most of the market is relatively equal. Or you bomb and fall to the bottom.
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More like "assumption much"... After having my ONE for some time, I'm regretting not sticking with Samsung. I tried switching mine out for the S4, but I was too late and already beyond the 15 day return. Among many small nitpicks the ONE's camera is absolutely horrible for my line of work and development seems to be a lot better for the S4 in it's sprint section.
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More like "assumption much"... After having my ONE for some time, I'm regretting not sticking with Samsung. I tried switching mine out for the S4, but I was too late and already beyond the 15 day return. Among many small nitpicks the ONE's camera is absolutely horrible for my line of work and development seems to be a lot better for the S4 in it's sprint section.
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What kind of work requires a higher resolution camera phone? If they require you to have something like that, they should either buy you a Galaxy S4 or a DSLR. It's really not an assumption when it boils down to the numbers. There's been very little word out there from any of the tech blogs saying that the S4 is a better phone than the HTC One, and because HTC beat them to the market, they got a head start. When it hits Verizon, it'll make an even bigger impact to the "projected" sales that Samsung had for the S4. I'm not seeing near as much marketing for the S4 as I am the One either.
Opinions are opinions, and if you feel that the S4 is a superior phone, I'm sure you could find someone on Craigslist willing to trade because they probably made the wrong decision in their mind about the S4.
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What kind of work requires a higher resolution camera phone? If they require you to have something like that, they should either buy you a Galaxy S4 or a DSLR. It's really not an assumption when it boils down to the numbers. There's been very little word out there from any of the tech blogs saying that the S4 is a better phone than the HTC One, and because HTC beat them to the market, they got a head start. When it hits Verizon, it'll make an even bigger impact to the "projected" sales that Samsung had for the S4. I'm not seeing near as much marketing for the S4 as I am the One either.
Opinions are opinions, and if you feel that the S4 is a superior phone, I'm sure you could find someone on Craigslist willing to trade because they probably made the wrong decision in their mind about the S4.
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It's not about having a higher resolution camera at all... The camera just sucks. Refer to THIS thread and you'll see what I'm talking about... I even posting some of my pictures there. And it's not at all about one phone being superior to the other... IMO they are too similar to draw a conclusion.
I bolded the part that's true and why I think they're not seeing the numbers they expected. Think about all the people in my shoes that can't switch over because they're outside the 15 day windows and don't want to pay the difference. I originally wanted the S4, but because the HTC ONE came out first I got it with the mindset "What the hell, I'll just try something new this time around". Don't be surprised to see much from the sales for Verizon when it comes out for them if this theory is correct because a lot of people would either already have the S4 or simply got tired of waiting for the ONE. As far as advertising goes, I don't know where you live but I have only see ONE advertisment for the HTC ONE whereas the S4 ads come on all the time. They came on almost every break during the first game of the NBA finals... Where's were HTC's?
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It's not about having a higher resolution camera at all... The camera just sucks. Refer to THIS thread and you'll see what I'm talking about... I even posting some of my pictures there. And it's not at all about one phone being superior to the other... IMO they are too similar to draw a conclusion.
I bolded the part that's true and why I think they're not seeing the numbers they expected. Think about all the people in my shoes that can't switch over because they're outside the 15 day windows and don't want to pay the difference. I originally wanted the S4, but because the HTC ONE came out first I got it with the mindset "What the hell, I'll just try something new this time around". Don't be surprised to see much from the sales for Verizon when it comes out for them if this theory is correct because a lot of people would either already have the S4 or simply got tired of waiting for the ONE. As far as advertising goes, I don't know where you live but I have only see ONE advertisment for the HTC ONE whereas the S4 ads come on all the time. They came on almost every break during the first game of the NBA finals... Where's were HTC's?
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Man you are lost. HTC One / Sprint was the official sponsor of all the NBA playoffs. During the first 3 Rounds I saw atleast 10 HTC one commercials every game and Kenny Charles and Ernie did an unboxing during halftime of bulls vs heat. The one is definitely getting put out there.
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Man you are lost. HTC One / Sprint was the official sponsor of all the NBA playoffs. During the first 3 Rounds I saw atleast 10 HTC one commercials every game and Kenny Charles and Ernie did an unboxing during halftime of bulls vs heat. The one is definitely getting put out there.
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How am I lost? Why you gotta be disrespectful? What I was talking about was the game LAST NIGHT. I haven't seen an HTC commercial in a long while and, granted I don't watch TV much, I certainly see more signs/billboards for the S4 (I travel a lot... airports are full of them) I have yet to see one for the ONE.
Getting nasty
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eXplicit815 said:
I love that this is finally happening, and I think there's a part being played by HTC in this one.
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Did you read the article?
"Sales of high-end handsets are lagging behind expectations, while low- to mid-end handsets are selling briskly worldwide," said Kim Young-chan, an analyst at Shinhan Investment Corp.The last time I checked the One was also a "high-end" handset so what the analysts are questioning at Samsung applies equally to HTC. More actually because HTC doesn't have a very big mid-tier portfolio of devices and is far less active in emerging markets where all the growth is.
As for HTC, they have their own issues to worry about.
“With One volume peaking and other models still weak, we believe May will be the peak of near-term sales,” he said in the note. HTC may experience a similar scenario as last year, when sales also peaked in May and June, he added. The Taoyuan-based company could also face headwinds from the generally slow market demand in the high-end smartphone segment, according to Citigroup. Chang attributed the slow demand to a combination of saturation in developed markets and demand being delayed to next year as consumers wait for the launch of the big-screen iPhone.http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/biz/archives/2013/06/07/2003564143
We shouldn't be celebrating an android manufacturer losing money. This whole Samsung / HTC feud is getting as bad as the android / apple bs.
Yea, we're all on the same team here. That's the best part about Android, solid competition between good manufacturers. We get to choose which company suits us the best. I don't understand all the animosity.
I agree with metal fan, I prefer, buy and recommend htc only. I'm glad Samsung has been successful but not at the cost to htc. Remember when everyone is called androids droids? Now they're galaxies, Samsung and htc galaxies Lmao. Anyways, I'll gladly pitch in to a get tko a s4 fund so he can leave
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Samsung's dropping stock prices make me like my phone more...oh wait, no it doesn't
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They kinda did what HTC did last year. With the one x, one s, one v, one vx, one sv, one x+, and the butterfly/DNA. They water down the brand top much when they put the flagship name on too many devices.
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We shouldn't be celebrating an android manufacturer losing money. This whole Samsung / HTC feud is getting as bad as the android / apple bs.
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Quoted for truth. I really can't understand why people get upset or feel emotionally inclined to react to something like this. Someone calls your ONE a Galaxy or vice-versa, correct them and move on... No need to get be immature about it... Not everyone is as "in-the-loop" about technology as we are.
As for stock prices... It's pointless. Stocks go up and down and can't really be measured as a sign or success/failure. Look at how Microsoft's stock went down after the Xbox One reveal and Sony's went up even though we still have yet to actually see the P4. What I don't understand is from a hardware perspective they are nearly identical and because of such there's no noticeable difference, BUT the Xbox comes with MORE features than what Sony has said about the P4 and it's Xbox getting the shaft? Something is wrong there.
The Stock Market is very fickle. It is usually based on future expectations, and at some point those expectations oftentimes become unsustainable and the market backs off a little bit. Doesn't mean that Samsung is doing that badly, but the return on the investment has reached a point in which investors are not getting their expected return that they have invested so they back out for some time. Samsung and Apple both have huge cash reserves so they will be able to fund their own research and development in order to grow their business. I don't believe many investors are jumping off the bandwagon at this point, they are just taking a wait and see approach. A company only has so many huge hits. Apple can only create so many iPods, iPhones, and iPads before the competition catches up and they lose some market share. You can't expect a company to hit home runs every year.
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