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time to connect to wifi?

how much time does your kaiser takes to connects to the wifi?? mine takes a hell lot of time sometimes 5 mins even.....i can see in my router logs these 3 points only :
1) Wireless PC connected
2) authenticating.....
3) authentication success
but there is no dhcp lease ip for a long time. I upgraded my router firmware as well....it doesnt take so much time for my laptops (3 of them) what am i missing? any special config i have to do ? or is it possible to se the debug logs for my kaiser so i can try to find out the root cause?

My kaiser takes about 10-15 seconds with my Linksys WRT54G using WPA-TKIP. I'm running the stock HTC ROM and have nothing special setup.

4 seconds
no WEP
mac address filter: only allow selected mac addresses

After really looking at this, like the below user says, it takes less than 5 seconds with WPA-TKIP and MAC filtering. 5 minutes is excessively long, but unfortuntaly it seems that you've done everything I can think of. Hope you can find a fix!

Do you have the WiFiRouter installed? It may be falsely trying to connect to itself.

yes i have the dlink Dl 524.....it works fine with other laptops and even my kaiser gets connected to it...but it take a hell lot of time.....

gandotratushar said:
yes i have the dlink Dl 524.....it works fine with other laptops and even my kaiser gets connected to it...but it take a hell lot of time.....
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I think Nick meant, do you have WMWiFirouter installed on your kaiser (the app by Chainfire) as the kaiser may be trying to connect to itself.
One other thing, is your SSID on the router 'Hidden'? If you have not selected the box for hidden network on Wireless connection (when you set it up on the kaiser) it can bit 'Hit n Miss' to get a connection.

just config the router to do mac filtering. Theres practically no authenticating step, it just goes like this:
1)This device is trying to connect, does it match the mac addresses owner provided?
if no -> user cannot connect
if yes-> user connects
// this is assuming you click the option "allow selected devices..."
only bad thing about mac filtering is that if you have a new device that making a new mac key for it is a nuisance.
otherwise, you can forget all those security keys!
*btw* if router signal is roughly below 20% it may take a while to connect, you may want to use 3rd party wifi managers like wififofum.

nothing works...i gets the same problem ...it takes a hell lot of time to connect.....is there any 3rd party software which can help me connecting to the network. I have noticed that it gives me the wrong signal strength as well.....sitting just next to the router it gives shows 60-70% signal strength. i dont have wifirouter app installed. I have tried the mac filtering as well but didnt help. my network is broadcasting the ssid and is not hidden.....and i am hating this. my friend wanted my kaiser to connect to his network so he could browse but it never got connected and i felt ashamed of this ~500 pound phone ......

did you try changing the power mode to best performance?

Mine takes 7 seconds to connect every single time. Thomson speedtouch from be broadband.Wep encryption.

ekw said:
just config the router to do mac filtering. Theres practically no authenticating step, it just goes like this:
1)This device is trying to connect, does it match the mac addresses owner provided?
if no -> user cannot connect
if yes-> user connects
// this is assuming you click the option "allow selected devices..."
only bad thing about mac filtering is that if you have a new device that making a new mac key for it is a nuisance.
otherwise, you can forget all those security keys!
*btw* if router signal is roughly below 20% it may take a while to connect, you may want to use 3rd party wifi managers like wififofum.
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It should probably be noted that this isn't a very secure method. But if you're not worried about your traffic being sniffed or someone cloning your MAC and getting on your network. Go for it!

joshuah82 said:
It should probably be noted that this isn't a very secure method. But if you're not worried about your traffic being sniffed or someone cloning your MAC and getting on your network. Go for it!
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i have tried this as well. sometimes it works. and i have set it to best performance. still no good

It takes 4 seconds for me (with a Linksys AP/Router) with WPA TKIP authentification.
Have you tried different wifi channel ? Have you try "Wififofum" to have some info about you're AP ?

my router is running with channel 11 ....how can i put it in my kaiser? what channel is yours running on?

That is extremely unsecure and not a good idea. A MAC spoof is such a simple thing so others can get right on your network...never mind the fact that all of your data is flying around in plain text.
Some one with a laptop/mac spoof and ettercap will wreck your stuff bad.
ekw said:
just config the router to do mac filtering. Theres practically no authenticating step, it just goes like this:
1)This device is trying to connect, does it match the mac addresses owner provided?
if no -> user cannot connect
if yes-> user connects
// this is assuming you click the option "allow selected devices..."
only bad thing about mac filtering is that if you have a new device that making a new mac key for it is a nuisance.
otherwise, you can forget all those security keys!
*btw* if router signal is roughly below 20% it may take a while to connect, you may want to use 3rd party wifi managers like wififofum.
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laakness said:
That is extremely unsecure and not a good idea. A MAC spoof is such a simple thing so others can get right on your network...never mind the fact that all of your data is flying around in plain text.
Some one with a laptop/mac spoof and ettercap will wreck your stuff bad.
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but atleast it should work...

If only we could all think like that

I use WRT54G running DD-WRT (custom linux firmware wich is a bit more stable than the original linksys fw) with WPA2-PERSONAL (AES) and it takes about 4 sec to connect. I live on 4th floor and the router is on 3rd floor.
TyTN II manufactured in oct07, original ROM.

Wireless Wierdness

Help!
I have a Netgear DG834T router as provided by Sky. I have one wired and two wireless connections running into it (let's call them WD, WL1 and WL2 respectively).
On the connections page I can see all of them under "attached devices"...but now I want to connect using my Kaiser (actually an O2 XDA Stellar)
What happens...
On the Kaiser, I get an IP address (assigned by DHCP) as normal - but can't access the internet - or at least, can only access it very rarely - http://www.google.com can't be found, but http://www.bbc.co.uk can. No idea why.
On the router, under "attached devices", not only can I NOT see the Kaiser, but WL1 and WL2 also disappear. WD remains visible. The router cannot ping the IP address of the Kaiser (timed out). If I disable WiFi on the Kaiser, then WL1 and WL2 are immediately visible again. Internet connection on WL1 and WL2 works, even when they are not visible.
I HAVE connected to this network before without any problems.
What the hooting heck is going on, and how do I fix it?
Thanks!

Time to troubleshoot! What happens with this phone on another wireless network. We need to determine if it's the phone or the network. Do you have any friends with a phone like this? Can you use their phone on your network? Do you have any ROMs flashed, has this phone ever been on the network without problems?
If the phone works on another router try looking for firmware updates for the router. Those things really do need to be updated often and it could have something to do with that.

Only have access to one network :-(. Might be a couple of weeks before I can access a hotel one or something like that.
Think next door neighbour has similar phone, but different provider...will try if he'll let me!
No ROMS flashed.
It connected fine when I first had it. As far as I know, I've changed nothing since then.
2 out of 4 answered...with an option on three...I'll get back to you as soon as I've beaten up my neighbour and stolen his phone...
Joke!

There should be somewhere you can go to test that wireless. I can walk outside the building I'm in and find one.

ChumleyEX said:
There should be somewhere you can go to test that wireless. I can walk outside the building I'm in and find one.
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You = US, me = UK. We still think the biro is a recent invention...

Neighbour's phone on my network gives the exact same problem. I've also noticed that when I click "Renew IP" on the Kaiser it doesn't work...it gives me 0.0.0.0, but will occasionally flash up the correct IP address. It's alomst as if the connection is being lost and remade every few seconds. The status ist gives me is "associated to network"...is that different to "connected"?
I've been trying to solve this on my router, but none of the settings seem to make any difference.

Same here
I get the same with the router from sky.
Kaiser says I have an IP address, 192.168.0.5, but the it doesn't show up on the attached devices on the router.
What I find that works is hit renew IP maybe twice until you get a really wierd IP address like
169.254.*.**, actually not sure if I'm picking up another network, but for some reason I don't think I am.
I can then browse the web and sync via wifi.
Really pisses me of that it says that it has an IP address but doesn't connect.

1) Make sure you dont have a proxy set up on your wifi connection on your device.
2) The 169. address is your device getting an unauthorised IP address as the router did not receive the correct encryption key from the device.
3) You can check if its an encryption thing by simply logging in to the router (192.168.0.1 in your web browser on pc) and changing the settings to turn wpa off and testing it. The routers username and password are on the card - its something like "sky" and "admin"

Yeah I agree, there is something up with that router.

Grey Area said:
Neighbour's phone on my network gives the exact same problem. I've also noticed that when I click "Renew IP" on the Kaiser it doesn't work...it gives me 0.0.0.0, but will occasionally flash up the correct IP address. It's alomst as if the connection is being lost and remade every few seconds. The status ist gives me is "associated to network"...is that different to "connected"?
I've been trying to solve this on my router, but none of the settings seem to make any difference.
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with my router.....i have to set the wifi power mode on my kaiser to "best performance", any other setting and i get that "associated to network" ****. been this way every since the hermes and the wizard.

unwired4 said:
1) Make sure you dont have a proxy set up on your wifi connection on your device.
2) The 169. address is your device getting an unauthorised IP address as the router did not receive the correct encryption key from the device.
3) You can check if its an encryption thing by simply logging in to the router (192.168.0.1 in your web browser on pc) and changing the settings to turn wpa off and testing it. The routers username and password are on the card - its something like "sky" and "admin"
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No, proxy set-up as the device was bought unbranded in US.
Because there are issues with this router, encryption and media streaming devices, I have only restricted the mac addresses with no encryption.
Still don't know about the 169. ip address beacuse doesn't seem to come up as am ISP.

Now then, how wierd is this?
After all these issues and kind of giving up on it as a bad job, I also noticed that out on the road, my GPRS wasn't working either - TomTom couldn't connect to the "plus" traffic service.
I get on the phone to O2 who told me that my phone hadn't been "provisioned". After one false start where they didn't seem to do anything about it, I have just (literally) had them tell me to go to the O2 Operator settings and tell it to update the "O2 UK Post Pay_GPRS" and reboot.
GPRS now works. And magically, so does my WiFi - IP address negotiated and full access to internet and my router's setup page granted. Working like a charm again.
So - seems to me it's an account setting, and nothing to do with either me poor ol' router or me nice new phone.
For completeness, I was occasionally getting the 169 IP address too, so it sounds like we have EXACTLY the same problem - suggest you get onto your service provider ASAP.

Need to do one of two things... or both?

Ok, well basically my end need is to have my Google Calendar synced to my phone on which I have no service or access to WiFi internet. I'm in Iraq right now, and the only internet I have is via Ethernet.
I am hoping to, at the least, sync my calender over USB. But one thing I'd love to do is share my internet connection to my phone via USB like WinMo does. That way I can mess with new roms and the such while I'm out here. Thing is, it can't have it's own IP address because all IP's are assigned and I have to log in via my browser on my computer once I'm connected. It's a pain in the ass.
But, any help would be great. Thanks!

I am pretty sure there is not a way to do what you are asking. Without wifi or and kind of data signal, there is no way to connect the gmail servers to your phone. I am pretty sure that usb is out of the question, which seems to be your only option.
Sorry my friend.

This might help, all you need is linux. You could virtualize it, but idk if you can do that where you are at right now.

any possibility of getting a usb wifi device and setting up Internet Connection Sharing so your phone would have a local ip like 192.168. and share the connection on your computer with your phone???

I don't know exactly how the IP shiz works with ICS, but the ISP out here uses 192.168 IP's. All I know is that the phone would need to not have an IP, or something along those lines, for it to work. IDFK....

If you're in iraq, it might be hard to get your hands on one of these, BUT, in the interests of completeness,
Use of a regular cheap broadband router with integrated wifi WILL do what you are looking to do...
You might need to clone your computer's MAC address to the router's WAN device, then it'll connect to the DHCP server, then using EITHER the computer OR the phone, go to the browser and authenticate.
Note: I don't think that there is really any way to network the phone to the computer using USB, though bluetooth IS an option... it'll be a console-only operation though.
Final option is to get your hands on a wifi device for the computer (can be a USB device) and run it as a NAT, i.e. use iptables.
my95z34 said:
Ok, well basically my end need is to have my Google Calendar synced to my phone on which I have no service or access to WiFi internet. I'm in Iraq right now, and the only internet I have is via Ethernet.
I am hoping to, at the least, sync my calender over USB. But one thing I'd love to do is share my internet connection to my phone via USB like WinMo does. That way I can mess with new roms and the such while I'm out here. Thing is, it can't have it's own IP address because all IP's are assigned and I have to log in via my browser on my computer once I'm connected. It's a pain in the ass.
But, any help would be great. Thanks!
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lbcoder said:
If you're in iraq, it might be hard to get your hands on one of these, BUT, in the interests of completeness,
Use of a regular cheap broadband router with integrated wifi WILL do what you are looking to do...
You might need to clone your computer's MAC address to the router's WAN device, then it'll connect to the DHCP server, then using EITHER the computer OR the phone, go to the browser and authenticate.
Note: I don't think that there is really any way to network the phone to the computer using USB, though bluetooth IS an option... it'll be a console-only operation though.
Final option is to get your hands on a wifi device for the computer (can be a USB device) and run it as a NAT, i.e. use iptables.
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They don't care what the MAC is, just IP's. I can get a WiFi router if I need to. But, if I turn off DHCP on the router, does it still need it's own IP address? Or does it just act as a switch? All IP configuration is done on the device, there is no DHCP ran by the ISP.

my95z34 said:
They don't care what the MAC is, just IP's. I can get a WiFi router if I need to. But, if I turn off DHCP on the router, does it still need it's own IP address? Or does it just act as a switch? All IP configuration is done on the device, there is no DHCP ran by the ISP.
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The cheap broadband router has TWO IP addresses. The public IP address assigned by the ISP's DHCP server (or manually if the ISP doesn't have DHCP), and the PRIVATE IP address used to communicate with the other devices that you hook up to it. It uses NETWORK ADDRESS TRANSLATION (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_address_translation ) to connect the client machines to the public network. To the public network, it appears that there is ONLY ONE machine connecting -- the NAT box (router) itself.
You will leave the DHCP *SERVER* (LAN SIDE) running on the router, you will disable the DHCP *CLIENT* (WAN SIDE) and configure the WAN IP/NETMASK/DNS/GATEWAY to the specifications required by the ISP. You will use the router's WAN port to connect to your ISP, you will use any LAN port to connect to your computer, and you will use the WiFi to connect to your phone. You will then have private IP addresses assigned to your computer and your phone, and these devices will be able to connect through your ISP's network via the router.

So doing that the ISP will see my router as my computer, then both my phone and computer can connect at the same time because they'll have their own private IP?

reverse tether, ad-hoc, on mac filtered network?

I have a rooted N1 with cyanogen 5.0.4.1 on it.
I'm studying abroad this semester, and the university I'm at seems to have done everything they could to prevent me from connecting my phone to the internet on their network.
There is a wireless network, but it doesn't reach my room, and there's a proxy; I haven't been able to get any of the various proxy apps to work with it, at all. On a somewhat related note, since moving to cyanogen I'm not able to connect to that network anymore (wpa enterprise, tls/pap/user+pass). No real loss, since it didn't work as I couldn't get the proxy going.
The rooms have ethernet, with a static IP and mac filtering, and of course the same proxy. In addition, on the wired network in the rooms you have to connect to a vpn in order get anything other than the school's intranet
With cyanogen's rom, I have been able to connect my phone to my computer's ad-hoc network by giving it the parameters (IP, gateway, netmask, dns), that were provided to me, but I can't download anything. My only guess as to why that's not working is their static IP/mac filtering combo is not playing nicely.
I haven't ever delved very deeply into networking type stuff such as proxies, ssh tunnels, etc, so these two ideas of mine could be completely unworkable, but what I've been able to come up with is:
1. Is there a way to have my laptop keep handling all the proxy/ip/vpn nonsense, and just route http data to and from my phone? I've never dealt with ssh or anything of that sort, but I run linux so it should be pretty trivial to get it set up on the laptop's side of the equation.
2. Failing that, I'm allowed to have 3 devices with 3 different mac addresses, each of which is given a separate IP address, so I give the people in charge of the network the mac address for my phone and get an IP address for it. Then, connect to my laptop's ad-hoc network, which is on IP #1, and go to the advanced wifi settings on my N1 and set up a static IP with IP #2. Does that work, at all? This of course doesn't account for the vpn at all, but if it does in fact work I'd then move on to that.

What a ****ing brain-buster. Goodluck!

As an update, I can use cyanogen's included tethering ability, in conjunction with ConnectBot, to ssh from my phone to my computer (got that working after a bit of work, and learned something new). However, when I try to set up port forwarding in ConnectBot, it doesn't work; I don't know which ones to forward, whether to choose local or remote, and if I try to forward something below 1024 it gives me an error because of that. Does anybody know what ports I need to forward, and how to do that properly with ConnectBot?

N1 - 5GHz Wifi?

Does the N1 have 5GHz wifi like the Samsung?
My home LAN is 5GHz only, so I don't disturb the neighbors with my video streaming.

No, 2.4 only...

Ugh.
OK so I turned on the router's 2.4GHz, but with broadcast SSID off. My N1 wouldn't even try to connect. So I turned on router SSID and it connects AES.
I do -not- want SSID broadcast on, as Windows machines' lazy active scan will find me. Sure they'll never get in, but I do not want broadcast on.
Has anyone succeeded in connecting with it off?
When I am connected wifi and open a website on the phone, does it go over wifi preferred over 3G?
I want to share the SD card with a machine on the LAN. What's the best way to do this? FTP? Reverse SSH tunnel? Is there a sshfs for Android? EDIT: NM on this one.

Yes, I remember connecting to a WiFi with SSID off, when I had Nexus.

It is pointless to keep SSID Broadcasting off. It is super easy to find your SSID anyway, and it causes all sorts of additional problems (like the one you are seeing above). Just keep the network secure and it makes life a lot easier.
http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/2865...hiding-your-wireless-ssid-really-more-secure/
http://blogs.technet.com/b/steriley/archive/2007/10/16/myth-vs-reality-wireless-ssids.aspx

Ok, but sure passive scanners like Kismet will still see me, however 90% of scans are done with an active scanner like Winduhs. Of course I'm using WPA2-AES, but I want to take every measure possible.
Now I find that whenever I have the phone connected to wifi, I lose -all- internet access. Just times out. 3G is still on and wifi is showing connected, but I can't get to websites. As soon as I turn off Wifi I can access the internet again through 3G.
With wifi I -can- access the wireless router's setup webpage from my phone, which tells me I am working through wifi, and I can remotely mount the phone filesystem on a LAN machine using sshfs, but I can not reach anything outside. Any idea why?
Does anyone know whether, when it's working right, it uses the wifi connection in preference over 3G?

The WiFi is ALWAYS preferred to 3G, which means - when you're connected to WiFi, all the internet traffic is routed through WiFi.

I don't understand then, why all data traffic stops to the outside when wifi is connected. The rest of my LAN gets outside fine, just not the phone.

If you can see LAN computers and exchange data with them - it's not the phone that's making problems. See if you have any restrictions in your router.

Oh FFS, my fault...
I set my IP statically for my LAN, and through some alert troubleshooting I found I can ping IPs outside but not DNs. I'd mis-set the DNS server in wifi settings. Now it works great!
I can now use sshdroid to mount my phone's filesystem on my LAN securely. Now, if I could only get it to wifi associate with beacon off...
It would also be nice to mount a filesystem on my LAN to the phone, although I consider the phone unsecure and question the wisdom of that, even with DroidWall running.

There is a market app that lets you connect to a hidden ssid
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Cool, but Market is FCing on me. I did a complete reinstall of the newest MIUI.us, and now Market's FCing again. So can't install any Market apps.

As someone else said, turning SSID off is pointless. It's like taking the numbers off the outside of your house and thinking people driving by won't see your house sitting there.

Apparently you didn't understand what I said here:
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Ok, but sure passive scanners like Kismet will still see me, however 90% of scans are done with an active scanner like Winduhs. Of course I'm using WPA2-AES, but I want to take every measure possible.
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If nothing else, please just respect my decision in this regard, or give valid proof that active scanners are not the preponderance.