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Looking to purchase Note, what pros and cons.

Hi
I am a happy Galaxy S I9000 owner. And I would like to purchase my next cell phone model. I am looking to Galaxy Note. Would you kindly post your impressions and any pros and cons.
Thanks
Cheers, Darius

Pros - too much to write about (don't have enough time now)
Cons - There's no return to other Smartphones. It's just too addictive .

look out for pixel problems

DMax99 said:
look out for pixel problems
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Thanks. What application do you suggest for that?

buk_grudziadz said:
Pros - too much to write about (don't have enough time now)
Cons - There's no return to other Smartphones. It's just too addictive .
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Thanks for prompt reply

Pros:
- Huge, beautiful, detailed screen
- S-Pen (I use it pretty frequently for taking notes, screenshots etc.)
- Great speed
- ICS coming
- Great camera
- Did I mention the lovely screen?
Cons:
- Notification LED missing (I got used to it on Desire)
- For some the screen might just be too big, so try it out before you buy it.
- You really won't like smaller screens after a few days
Oh and the phone has some difficulties with the black color in films. As I read, it is because the screen has 24-bit color depth, which is uncommon yet amongst programs (to an expert: please correct me if I'm wrong!)
Feel free to ask, if you have further questions!

Hello Darius, I've owned both the SGS1 & 2, and now the Note. I had some misgivings about the Note too, especially since the demo units at the local Samsung shops felt laggy to me. But I did much research and finally got the phone, and it's one of the best decisions I ever made.
Pros:
Huge size makes browsing, checking email and ebook reading a breeze. It's large enough for me to decide to sell off my rooted NookColor as this is much more flexible, portable and has much better features. I find it easier to hold the phone and take photos because of the size, as compared to the SGS2 which was too thin for me to hold comfortably.
Doesn't matter what conflicting information there are out there about pentile display, the screen is beautiful and the colours lovely, not over-saturated like SGS2. Banding is also much better than what the SGS2 suffered from.
Battery life and camera seem comparable to SGS2, if not better. No issues with dead pixels, pink spots, green whatever...I did notice that the display is a tad uneven with a flat grey wallpaper/background, but that was true of my SGS2 as well. In real life I do not use an even toned grey wallpaper, so that doesn't bother me at all. And it's pointless to get all stressed out over little things like that as my life is exciting enough.
The s-pen makes taking notes on the fly so much easier and cooler than digging around for a pen to write on your palm! I like being able to take screen captures too. Hopefully my artistic career will take off because of this phone. Nah...just kidding!
Cons:
Huge size means the self-conscious people may feel somewhat clownish with this. You'll have to put up with a few--not that many--stares, rubber necks and looks of horror from the unenlightened. Those who had owned Palms or are suffering from long sightedness will doubtless praise you for your gorgeous new gadget. Those who wear tight jeans may not be so crazy about it.
It comes with bloatware that slow down the phone (at least for speed freaks like me) and take up space. Thus you may need to root--please read extensively before doing so--in order to freeze or delete the bloatware. This is subjective as some people don't find the bloatware an issue, but I've always rooted my phones and my hands get itchy when I don't. Perhaps once the official ICS comes out, I will no longer need to root as I understand that you can easily delete unwanted apps.
Some apps are not meant for phones this size and may not take up the entire screen, or will look a little soft. So far these tend to be games. It's not a deal breaker for me because I don't play many games and can easily look for alternative games.
And the greatest problem, I feel, is that I may never settle for a smaller phone in the future!

holgalee said:
Hello Darius, I've owned both the SGS1 & 2, and now the Note. I had some misgivings about the Note too, especially since the demo units at the local Samsung shops felt laggy to me.
Pros:
Huge size makes browsing, checking email and ebook reading a breeze. It's large enough for me to decide to sell off my rooted NookColor as this is much more flexible, portable and has much better features.
Doesn't matter what conflicting information there are out there about pentile display, the screen is beautiful and the colours lovely, not over-saturated like SGS2. Banding is also much better than what the SGS2 suffered from.
Cons:
Huge size means the self-conscious people may feel somewhat clownish with this.
It comes with bloatware that slow down the phone (at least for speed freaks like me) and take up space. Thus you may need to root--please read extensively before doing so--in order to freeze or delete the bloatware.
Doubt if you will ever settle for a smaller phone in the future!
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Bcroc said:
Pros:
- Huge, beautiful, detailed screen
- S-Pen (I use it pretty frequently for taking notes, screenshots etc.)
- Great speed
- ICS coming
- Great camera
- Did I mention the lovely screen?
Cons:
- Notification LED missing (I got used to it on Desire)
- For some the screen might just be too big, so try it out before you buy it.
- You really won't like smaller screens after a few days
Oh and the phone has some difficulties with the black color in films. As I read, it is because the screen has 24-bit color depth, which is uncommon yet amongst programs (to an expert: please correct me if I'm wrong!)
Feel free to ask, if you have further questions!
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Thank you very much for sharing

You're most welcome. Uh...I added a bit more info after you read and thanked me.

My pros and cons are at my blog, AndroidNZ.net
So far I've written about 8,000 words or something in my review, and the last part is nearly done and currently coming in at around 4,600 words.
If you really want to know the pros and cons in detail that is.

Dogue2000 said:
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I mean...pray that you won't get one with Dead Pixels like the one that I got recently
I heard there are some screen quality issues with the Note from this forum but didn't think I would be unlucky enough to get one. But guess what....
But hey...I'm sure you will be luckier than me....and apart from that....it's a GREAT device

Well the only issues you would face are with the screen and nothing else. If you are buying at some store do sure to take "dead pixel checker" or "screen test" software with you (in ur older phone). You can transfer em to the new phone via bluetooth and test the screen.
Otherwise U can go to the service menu and check the RGB screens for any dead pixel. Best way to check for dead pixel is to lower the brightness to 0% and take the phone in a dark environment if possible and look from a distance of about 5 inches. Otherwise its really hard to make out dead pixels in bright lights, but if they are there and you are watching a movie at night in the bed, u wont be too happy to find em. As others have said the screen is uneven on gray color. Do check out the grey color and see if there are any smudges and try to see them on other normal screens. If they are not there then all good.
Regarding dead pixels till now, only white stuck pixels have been reported (me a victim as well). And stuck pixels (particularly in this phone) are visible only on grey color. If you have any more doubts dont hesitate to ask, would be glad to help !!!

I have had both. The biggest decision is the screen. Its fantastic to look at and work on but its massive to deal with. I'm sometimes a little scared I may drop the device and one handed is nearly impossible - which is generally not a big deal except for taking pictures sometimes. Jury is still out.
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Thank you everybody for sharing. I have already exchanged my SGS to Note. Very happy. Seems to be no dead pixels.

buk_grudziadz said:
Pros - too much to write about (don't have enough time now)
Cons - There's no return to other Smartphones. It's just too addictive .
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most super amoled srceen does not have dead or stuck pixels, is this because of the density of the screen using the 1280-720 screen, also to hijack the thread, what will ppl consider between the note or galaxy nexus, why i'm asking, i will be getting either one next week, so ppls opinion would be great.
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Tired of your washed out screen?

Then let's get Google to fix it.
Star this issue. Right now, it only has 5 stars. Encourage everyone you know who has an Nexus 4 and is annoyed with the washed out and faded colors to star this issue. Maybe we can get better screen calibration in Key Lime Pie.
https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=46763

I've already starred the issue in a different bug report. This one feels redundant.
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Endoran said:
I've already starred the issue in a different bug report. This one feels redundant.
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You got a link for that one, then?
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No but I'm tired of everyone complaining about something which doesn't exist!
The amount of people moaning about this compared to the amount perfectly happy with their phones backs up the fact that this is complete tosh.
And by that I mean the hundreds in this forum, if it even is that many, compared to the thousands in the forum and the.millions out there completely happy with it including reviews.
I for one love the screen and in every real world test side by side.with other phones that I've carried out proved to me and others that the nexus 4 display is true to life as possible and most other displays are.over saturated and un natural.
Bright cartoonish colours and black crush does not mean a good screen.
If people want to have a mythical non washed out screen get a super amoled display already.
Google should completely ignore bug reports for none bugs such as this and.people shouldn't take up their time with this nonsense.
That's ten minutes i won't get back lol
Flame on!
*** Posted from my perfectly readable stock 4.2.2 nexus 4 screen***

Just helping you guys out. Im fine with the colors right now. Just starred the issue.
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The screen on my N4 is wonderfully neutral for a change, in real life colours don't burn your eyes out.

4.2.2 is better, not perfect, but quite nice. imo

biffsmash said:
No but I'm tired of everyone complaining about something which doesn't exist!
The amount of people moaning about this compared to the amount perfectly happy with their phones backs up the fact that this is complete tosh.
And by that I mean the hundreds in this forum, if it even is that many, compared to the thousands in the forum and the.millions out there completely happy with it including reviews.
I for one love the screen and in every real world test side by side.with other phones that I've carried out proved to me and others that the nexus 4 display is true to life as possible and most other displays are.over saturated and un natural.
Bright cartoonish colours and black crush does not mean a good screen.
If people want to have a mythical non washed out screen get a super amoled display already.
Google should completely ignore bug reports for none bugs such as this and.people shouldn't take up their time with this nonsense.
That's ten minutes i won't get back lol
Flame on!
*** Posted from my perfectly readable stock 4.2.2 nexus 4 screen***
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Nobody is asking for oversaturated colours, just calibration.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6440/google-nexus-4-review/6

biffsmash said:
No but I'm tired of everyone complaining about something which doesn't exist!
The amount of people moaning about this compared to the amount perfectly happy with their phones backs up the fact that this is complete tosh.
And by that I mean the hundreds in this forum, if it even is that many, compared to the thousands in the forum and the.millions out there completely happy with it including reviews.
I for one love the screen and in every real world test side by side.with other phones that I've carried out proved to me and others that the nexus 4 display is true to life as possible and most other displays are.over saturated and un natural.
*** Posted from my perfectly readable stock 4.2.2 nexus 4 screen***
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That's the thing. It is not true to life. Well...it is if you're living a world filled with shades of grey After i installed one of Mole's custom kernels i can say that the difference is STAGGERING. Gamma values are between 2.2 and 2.4 (compared to 1.6-1.7 in stock kernel). RGB standards say that 2.2 is true to life...1.6 isn't

biffsmash said:
No but I'm tired of everyone complaining about something which doesn't exist!
The amount of people moaning about this compared to the amount perfectly happy with their phones backs up the fact that this is complete tosh.
And by that I mean the hundreds in this forum, if it even is that many, compared to the thousands in the forum and the.millions out there completely happy with it including reviews.
I for one love the screen and in every real world test side by side.with other phones that I've carried out proved to me and others that the nexus 4 display is true to life as possible and most other displays are.over saturated and un natural.
Bright cartoonish colours and black crush does not mean a good screen.
If people want to have a mythical non washed out screen get a super amoled display already.
Google should completely ignore bug reports for none bugs such as this and.people shouldn't take up their time with this nonsense.
That's ten minutes i won't get back lol
Flame on!
*** Posted from my perfectly readable stock 4.2.2 nexus 4 screen***
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Clearly you are a minority. Number of stars on this issue has gone waaaaay up.
Aren't you glad you wasted that ten minutes?
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javacody said:
Clearly you are a minority. Number of stars on this issue has gone waaaaay up.
Aren't you glad you wasted that ten minutes?
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I find the screen to be completely acceptable, and great to use. Only 45 people starred it at the time of writing this post, out of thousands of users (if not more) on Nexus 4 forums. Everyone knows that screen is less saturated and more natural than AMOLED screens, and most people bought it knowing that. They had 15 days to return the device, and they chose to keep it. It's simply a different technology, with advantages and disadvantages. You can do all the calibration you want, it's not gonna look as saturated as AMOLED screens.

jeeholim said:
I find the screen to be completely acceptable, and great to use. Only 45 people starred it at the time of writing this post, out of thousands of users (if not more) on Nexus 4 forums. Everyone knows that screen is less saturated and more natural than AMOLED screens, and most people bought it knowing that. They had 15 days to return the device, and they chose to keep it. It's simply a different technology, with advantages and disadvantages. You can do all the calibration you want, it's not gonna look as saturated as AMOLED screens.
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The screen is WAY off on gamma. It is improperly calibrated. We are not trying to get over saturated colors. Do you understand?
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda premium

It's becoming like the 'avforums', where all the boffs with years of audio/visual experience and thousands of pounds of calibrating equipment, give there settings for the 'best' experience with your new £/$1000.00+- set. All discussed in the greatest detail and length.
So you set them, then everyone in the family and friends say over and over "it's too dark" "why's it so dark?" "is there something wrong with it?" ..and so on
eventually you have to agree and whoop up the brightness and contrast and turn the colour down a bit ..that's better

I agree with the original topic .
The screen is inferior .
Coming from a Samsung note to the nexus 4 ....
You can tell its crap and made by lg.
I'm on my second nexus in 3 days ! Lots of build problems
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The screen is great, it looks very sharp, but yes we need some calibration, just a little bit, you can put a O4x side by side with our N4 and see how the colors looks better and the 4x, and yes is the same panel, or maybe the n4 could be better because is newer.

biffsmash said:
No but I'm tired of everyone complaining about something which doesn't exist!
The amount of people moaning about this compared to the amount perfectly happy with their phones backs up the fact that this is complete tosh.
And by that I mean the hundreds in this forum, if it even is that many, compared to the thousands in the forum and the.millions out there completely happy with it including reviews.
I for one love the screen and in every real world test side by side.with other phones that I've carried out proved to me and others that the nexus 4 display is true to life as possible and most other displays are.over saturated and un natural.
Bright cartoonish colours and black crush does not mean a good screen.
If people want to have a mythical non washed out screen get a super amoled display already.
Google should completely ignore bug reports for none bugs such as this and.people shouldn't take up their time with this nonsense.
That's ten minutes i won't get back lol
Flame on!
*** Posted from my perfectly readable stock 4.2.2 nexus 4 screen***
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The colour sucks on this screen as tested by EVERYONE including review sites and anandtech who tested it.
Its also clear to see when put next to an iphone or normal TV with decent settings.
Im going to the S4 soon as it lands this phone is just a toy to get me by

I don't get why people continuously start new threads about this non-issue. I previously owned a One XL and people praised that screen as one of the best in its time. After comparing the screen of the N4 and HOX, I prefer the screen on the N4 by far (stock colours). The HOX had a yellowish tint and no one complained about it. I guarantee most people who complain about the screen on the N4 don't even own a high quality IPS monitor. And now that we have pretty much full gamma calibration, go calibrate the screen to your liking.

irzero said:
The colour sucks on this screen as tested by EVERYONE including review sites and anandtech who tested it.
Its also clear to see when put next to an iphone or normal TV with decent settings.
Im going to the S4 soon as it lands this phone is just a toy to get me by
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Ahh, Anandtech and "EVERYONE" has time machines and reviewed the 4.2.2 setup?
It really is a lot better.

If you are rooted there is an app that improves the colors a great deal. Is called Nexus 4 Display Control and kids the app store. The optimum color setting is 238, 228, 240. Hope that helps
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The screen on stock setting is pretty bad when it comes to calibration.... I used Franco's latest kernel and tried a few gamma settings and found one that MADE STOCK COLORS LOOK LIKE CRAP.
after 4.2.2 was released I decided to flash stock image to take the OTA and I just couldn't believe how horrendous the screen looked.
Seriously, I got used to the colors on stock and never thought the were bad until I was able to tweak the gamma settings. The screen looks absolutely beautiful now.
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One X+ VS Nexus 4 - Display Comparison

hi guys
my friend gave me his Ox+ for a while in order to flashing a custom rom.. so.. i struck when the iron was hot
here is my comparison.. just have to say something.. maybe these pictures don't show the reality.. in this topic i'm
trying to make a fair comparison and tell the truth which i saw on my eyes
one other thing.. sorry for my not so good English :cyclops:
both of these devices use LCD technology (IPS HD+ for nexy and super clear LCD on Ox+)
regarding to GsmArena test Nexus has a much brighter display (608 vs 420) but i must say it's not sensible..
and Ox+ provide more contrast (1521 vs 1320) .. well i must say Nexus had more contrast on my eyes and it was sensible!!!!
here is some pics:
right/up is nexus... left/down is Ox+
1st pic; a nature
both of them are damn good!! very sharp displays.. excellent color reproduction, contrast and etc..
i think Ox+ provide a warmer colors.. and nexus had more contrast on my eyes
both of them are pretty close in this pic
2nd: red flower
again.. both of them are verrry good.. but again i must say nexus has more contrast and ox has warmer display
look at the left corner.. white is damn good on nexus but seems yellowish on OX+
3rd : jelly bean..!!
i must say nexus is the obvious winner in this pic.. better contrast.. excellent white and richer color..
4th : pure white
no explanation..! n4 definitely wins here..it provide best white i've ever seen on any device..!!
5th : pure black comparison:
sorry.. i didn't have a good camera to show the real differences.. but i mus say ox+ had better blacks.. although
maybe it's because of brighter display on n4.. but on full brightness i must say ox+ wins
6th: viewing angle
again sorry fir no pic 'cause of camera..
both phones had verry good horizontal and vertical viewing angles.. ox+ was a little darker..
but if view them from the corners ox+ wins..! no changing color and contrast.. very good.. i must give win to One x
let me know if you like it.. :good:
i can make a camera comparison if you want :fingers-crossed:

i must say that i used FauxClock for screen calibration.. it's not fraud..
custom rom/kernel/mod is part of a nexus device

any comment?

Dark Fear said:
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Good Comparison what else can be commented

I also noticed that the colors on the One X are more yellowish. Good comparison!
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Nice. Care to share your screen settings?

Aye, what kernel or any settings were you using?
Nice comparison, and I guess it may surprise a few people!

shockem said:
Nice. Care to share your screen settings?
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Aye, what kernel or any settings were you using?
Nice comparison, and I guess it may surprise a few people!
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sure :fingers-crossed:
FauxClock app, Obsanity Amoled profile (+5(*3) to 2nd gama setting), Matr1x kernel, LiquidSmooth rom

Screen of Nexus 4 was calibrated according to your taste.So does it effect the outcome of Picture quality?
If yes then is this a fair comparison

My friend has a regular One X, and its display is far more rich, bright and responsive (probably the best touchscreen I tried) than the one in the Nexus 4. You can clearly see the differences under direct sunlight.

Sak3ater said:
Screen of Nexus 4 was calibrated according to your taste.So does it effect the outcome of Picture quality?
If yes then is this a fair comparison
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yeah.. i calibrated N4 color.. but as i said, "modding, custom rom/kernel" is part of a Nexus device.. so.. i think it's definitely fair comparison..!
Fatherboard said:
My friend has a regular One X, and its display is far more rich, bright and responsive (probably the best touchscreen I tried) than the one in the Nexus 4. You can clearly see the differences under direct sunlight.
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calibrate your screen and go to fight

Calibration won't improve the touch behavior.
Tapatalked

Fatherboard said:
Calibration won't improve the touch behavior.
Tapatalked
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I'm a previous htc one x owner. Let me tell you, the touchscreen was no better than what i experience in the N4. If anything it was less sensitive. I remember actually holding my thumb down to that ****ing piece of **** you call a screen on the one x hoping for it to react. Regardless, if anything, the N4 is MUCH, MUCH, MUCH better on the screen side since 4.3.
I actually hated the ONE x so much that i decided to drop it a second time to shatter the display once and for all after i had already mistakenly dropped it. Piece of ****.
**** that thing. Worst device ever
Drains battery like i drain my **** down the toilet when i have instant diarrhea pills shoved down my throat.

U used wrong calibration, use iphone 5 calibration with franco kernel

Bravia Engine...all time??

So I know that our display is fading when it stands vs HTC, LG, Samsung screen but if we make Bravia Engine always ON the situation changes, the screen could be equal or maybe a little bit better than others with more power consumption.
So its this possible..to have bravia engine in games, homescreen, anywhere in sistem? As I read on the internet I didnt found an exact answer for this question.

nemer12 said:
So I know that our display is fading when it stands vs HTC, LG, Samsung screen but if we make Bravia Engine always ON the situation changes, the screen could be equal or maybe a little bit better than others with more power consumption.
So its this possible..to have bravia engine in games, homescreen, anywhere in sistem? As I read on the internet I didnt found an exact answer for this question.
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Theoretically it would be possible but the battery drain would be enormous ATM, unless Sony delivers some tweaks!
That's probably the reason why they haven't done.that in the first place!
Sony.would be better off with an oled display, tweaking it and sticking the BE2 ENGINE or x-reality into that, saving battery consumption. Then they would be unbeatable for a while!
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nemer12 said:
So I know that our display is fading when it stands vs HTC, LG, Samsung screen but if we make Bravia Engine always ON the situation changes, the screen could be equal or maybe a little bit better than others with more power consumption.
So its this possible..to have bravia engine in games, homescreen, anywhere in sistem? As I read on the internet I didnt found an exact answer for this question.
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I guess not.
And my screen is better than the sgs4's. I can't see a big difference between mine and htc one's either.
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Not really. I can say that HTC One has easily the best screen on the market.
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I think it would be better if the devs try ing to get be2 or x reality to work on unlocked bootloader.
For crying outloud.....my galaxy nexus has be2 but a sony phone a little modified couldnt get be2 to work when its unlockud? Its sonys concept wtf....hahahahahahh
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Once sources go out for GPE Z Ultra, I'm quite sure devs will port X-Reality and other handy features.

X-reality & Bravia engine it just marketing Bull****

rzuku90 said:
X-reality & Bravia engine it just marketing Bull****
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Hmm. NO.
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it would be nice to have it all time so...just to have it there in case that we want to compare our screen to another phones screen.
bioan said:
Once sources go out for GPE Z Ultra, I'm quite sure devs will port X-Reality and other handy features.
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How to make the X reality work if you have unlocked bootloader?
demon2112 said:
I think it would be better if the devs try ing to get be2 or x reality to work on unlocked bootloader.
For crying outloud.....my galaxy nexus has be2 but a sony phone a little modified couldnt get be2 to work when its unlockud? Its sonys concept wtf....hahahahahahh
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corect and this is a wierd thing .
Tommy-Geenexus said:
I guess not.
And my screen is better than the sgs4's. I can't see a big difference between mine and htc one's either.
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In the past I was like my sony xperia z screen is the best and I could not BELIEVE all sites that sayd that SXZ has a weak screen(like on a low end phone) and when I compared with a Samsung Screen(s4/note 3)..i Was like nooooooooooo way my screen its ****ty...
And I said I dont understand so SONY ..sells 13 MP camera and screen to others but for them they cant do a good screen or a really good camera.

nemer12 said:
it would be nice to have it all time so...just to have it there in case that we want to compare our screen to another phones screen.
How to make the X reality work if you have unlocked bootloader?
corect and this is a wierd thing .
In the past I was like my sony xperia z screen is the best and I could not BELIEVE all sites that sayd that SXZ has a weak screen(like on a low end phone) and when I compared with a Samsung Screen(s4/note 3)..i Was like nooooooooooo way my screen its ****ty...
And I said I dont understand so SONY ..sells 13 MP camera and screen to others but for them they cant do a good screen or a really good camera.
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When i compared my screen to a sgs4's one i was like omg is my display bright.
And the s4 had only bit better colours but nuffin more.
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OK its quite late , but I can suggest you some alternative try it and lemme know..
google is your best friend , search for Screendim.apk and install it
enable it and set the bottom bar ( contrast ) for about 60% and the brightness on top for about 60-70% and now tell me how dark or colorful your screen looks
this defnitely works.. not perfect but close to BE alwasy ON types..

Tommy-Geenexus said:
When i compared my screen to a sgs4's one i was like omg is my display bright.
And the s4 had only bit better colours but nuffin more.
Sent from my Xperia™Z»4.3Leak«
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Fanboy alert. You didn't see very grey black, fogged colours, bad view angles etc? So you have some problems with your eyes (or just fanboy). Even 2 years old phones have batter screens than Z.
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slowik515 said:
Fanboy alert. You didn't see very grey black, fogged colours, bad view angles etc? So you have some problems with your eyes (or just fanboy). Even 2 years old phones have batter screens than Z.
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Nope. Neither my Xperia S nor my Xperia Neo nor my Nexus 4 nor everything i've owned had a better screen.
Maybe there are some people on the world who like natural colours, becoz after looking at a amoled display my head hurts.
The display of the lg g2 is the only one which impressed me though, this is miles better, but nothing else.
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X-reality & Bravia engine it just marketing Bull****
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If you display some screen calibration patterns while using bravia engine, you see how bad it is for fidelity. It just oversaturates, tints, and destroys detail in brighter and darker areas of images/videos.
If a phone has a screen of 300/1 contrast ratio, there is no way some software can improve this, it only can put some make up but at the cost of some other things, just like LCD's are doing since the beginning with dynamic contrast and all that bullsh*t, where you see skin become shiny bright and where there used to be a dark grey shadow over a black background, then it becomes all black and no shadow.
BE is the first thing i disable in all my Sony products, and its equivalent in any non Sony product.

I think that our screen without bravia its complety UGLY! :-&

I never had any issues with the colours on my device. Infact I prefer them this way as opposed to colour popping and extra vibrant. Infact I turn down that setting on my LCD monitor. A friend of mine did a side by side comparison against his Samsung device and the 1st thing he notices was the colour was more toned down then said he actually preferred the Sony display. Point is some ppl like the toned down visuals and others like them vibrant but funny how as someone says they have no issue with the Sony display they are labeled a blind fanboy.
As for viewing angles, Also never had an issue with them due to the fact that I always take up my phone when I want to look at it (always, its a habit of mine) and never just glance at it while it is on a desk or anything like that.

Xperia Z Screen is OK, i have been using it everyday since launch date, viewing angles may be low, but that is something i forgot completely in everyday use. Screen brightness is more than enough, contrast is ok, and visual fidelity is great (as long as you have BE2 deactivated).
For people saying there were better screens two years ago, please point me to a device released two years ago with a 5" FullHD screen with better specifications.
We all know the XZ screen, today, is not one of the best FullHD screen on a smartphone, but it was the first released.

RoberM said:
Xperia Z Screen is OK, i have been using it everyday since launch date, viewing angles may be low, but that is something i forgot completely in everyday use. Screen brightness is more than enough, contrast is ok, and visual fidelity is great (as long as you have BE2 deactivated).
For people saying there were better screens two years ago, please point me to a device released two years ago with a 5" FullHD screen with better specifications.
We all know the XZ screen, today, is not one of the best FullHD screen on a smartphone, but it was the first released.
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Finally someone with a little knowledge.
Don't forget, before a smartphone is released, how long it takes to develop.
The screen isn't poor at all. I feel really sorry for people saying this and hope.that their doc can.help them.sort their eyes out real soon.
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slim207rc said:
Finally someone with a little knowledge.
Don't forget, before a smartphone is released, how long it takes to develop.
The screen isn't poor at all. I feel really sorry for people saying this and hope.that their doc can.help them.sort their eyes out real soon.
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I don't think they need a doctor or anything, it is a matter of taste, there are people who like viewing screen with oversaturated colors and overdriven contrast just because it is more eye catchy, for god's sake they even ported the bravia engine to the galaxy nexus, and there are people who even enjoy it, if the nexus screen weren't oversaturated enough... let's oversaturate it even more and add a lot of detail loss due to contrast overdrive by BE.
Oh, also forgot to mention, "nits", why the hell would we need a screen with a gazillion of nits if at the end of the day we are all using the brightness bar to decrease it to save battery (or using the Auto mode), at the end we all are viewing the screen with about the same luminosity, it doesn't matter if our screen has 10 or 8.000.000 nits.

Display Uniformity Problem

I didn't expect 1000€ device still has this issue.
If you want to test it on your note 9 download this image: https://i.imgur.com/DUEKJzH.jpg
It is dark solid grey background.
In dark room open this image and set brightness to low. You should see uniform gray color.
I think at least 90% devices has this problem.
Here is what I see:
https://imgur.com/a/efvMZXE
https://imgur.com/a/uJPa8jE

Feel free to enlighten me but unless you spend all your time looking at a dark solid grey background, I don't see why this is an issue. I have tested mine with a similar image and to my eyes, the screen is perfect.
Your link to the image is dead btw.

willhemmens said:
Feel free to enlighten me but unless you spend all your time looking at a dark solid grey background, I don't see why this is an issue. I have tested mine with a similar image and to my eyes, the screen is perfect.
Your link to the image is dead btw.
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Many apps has dark gray background. First I didn't test anything I just noticed it in youtube app - dark mode. Its quite disappointing.
I tried all three links on another pc and they are working.

KastrO_on said:
Many apps has dark gray background. First I didn't test anything I just noticed it in youtube app - dark mode. Its quite disappointing.
I tried all three links on another pc and they are working.
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While they do have a dark grey background, there is usually something in front of the background to draw your eye to instead.
Thanks for letting me know about the links, it's amazing how editing your post, fixing the links and saving the post makes the links work. I did check the links and all I see is noise.

willhemmens said:
While they do have a dark grey background, there is usually something in front of the background to draw your eye to instead.
Thanks for letting me know about the links, it's amazing how editing your post, fixing the links and saving the post makes the links work. I did check the links and all I see is noise.
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Not every time background is covered by content. I can clearly see difference on youtube app, top part of display is slightly lighter and greenish and bottom is darker and reddish.
I did nothing to the links. I just tried to add pictures (insert image) but it didn't work.

seems my note 9 does not have the issue u reported
see the pic u posted as screenshot from my note 9

No issue here.

KastrO_on said:
I think at least 90% devices has this problem.
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I think you think wrong. From which orifice did you pluck that 90% figure from?

HellDiverUK said:
I think you think wrong. From which orifice did you pluck that 90% figure from?
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Thats how mass production works. Or do you think im the only one who got exclusive defective device?

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Thats how mass production works. Or do you think im the only one who got exclusive defective device?
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Actually, mass production usually aims for less than 1% failure rate, so I'm pretty confident you got one of those >1%.
Considering YOU are the only one complaining, then yes, you're probably one unlucky person.
If you were talking about a Google Pixel 2/3, then yes, you're likely to have a **** screen, because that's how they are. Samsung screens aren't like that at all - the Note 9 has one of, if not THE best screen available on any phone.

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Actually, mass production usually aims for less than 1% failure rate, so I'm pretty confident you got one of those >1%.
Considering YOU are the only one complaining, then yes, you're probably one unlucky person.
If you were talking about a Google Pixel 2/3, then yes, you're likely to have a **** screen, because that's how they are. Samsung screens aren't like that at all - the Note 9 has one of, if not THE best screen available on any phone.
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Thats why Im disappointed. Didnt expect this from Samsung.
Im going to try another piece so we will see.

KastrO_on said:
I didn't expect 1000€ device still has this issue.
If you want to test it on your note 9 download this image: https://i.imgur.com/DUEKJzH.jpg
It is dark solid grey background.
In dark room open this image and set brightness to low. You should see uniform gray color.
I think at least 90% devices has this problem.
Here is what I see:
https://imgur.com/a/efvMZXE
https://imgur.com/a/uJPa8jE
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I am pretty sure they will agree to change it + the chances to draw again a problematic display are really slim. Sadly some do have such a problem and actually I saw a lot worse on the xda forums. Return it for exchange is my advice.

Look in my thread history. I made threads about Samsung display uniformity issues since Note3!
It got better over the years, but still I estimate only 10-30% of all Amoled screens are perfect.
Samsung makes things right in terms of quality management, because most customers do not notice this flaw, but if you are sensible to it, it's hard to ignore!
in my threads I also explained the reason for this, which is how amoled screens are produced. they are cut out of wafers after lithography. only devices cut out of the center of the wafer have almost uniform screens. the more from a side your screen has been cut out, the worse the screen quality will be.
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TML1504 said:
Look in my thread history. I made threads about Samsung display uniformity issues since Note3!
It got better over the years, but still I estimate only 10-30% of all Amoled screens are perfect.
Samsung makes things right in terms of quality management, because most customers do not notice this flaw, but if you are sensible to it, it's hard to ignore!
in my threads I also explained the reason for this, which is how amoled screens are produced. they are cut out of wafers after lithography. only devices cut out of the center of the wafer have almost uniform screens. the more from a side your screen has been cut out, the worse the screen quality will be.
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I think it has improved a lot since a couple of years. Before that, I used to swap my Samsung phones once or twice to get a decent one.
But the last 4 or 5 phones I bought, all with Samsung screens, were all perfect.
That includes Pixel 2 (not XL), Note 9, S8+, P20 Pro, etc....
Either I got extremely lucky to get as many perfect screens in a row, or they really improved things. Now I think it will happen to me again to have a bad one, but I'm not as nervous anymore. It's not a lottery anymore.
My Note 9 in particular is extremely impressive with a perfect screen. Perfect whites, no uniformity problem with any shades of grey at any brightness. Pure oled bliss.
BUT, I've had so many problems before that I'll ALWAYS be a little nervous before unboxing an oled screen smartphone. I've been burned too many times with crappy panels.
Let me tell you I was extremely nervous the day I bought my LG Oled 4K TV 55"..... Thousands of dollars thrown at an Oled panel lottery.... I was lucky this time again
Times are changing.

Okay so I got another note 9 and has this issue too but in different spot. Also checked one more piece in samsung store...same.
So I think almost everyone has this uneven screen but maybe some of you have less sensitive eyes or just don't want to see this problem

KastrO_on said:
Okay so I got another note 9 and has this issue too but in different spot. Also checked one more piece in samsung store...same.
So I think almost everyone has this uneven screen but maybe some of you have less sensitive eyes or just don't want to see this problem
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So my question is, does this affect your use of the device? Is it causing wear and tear on you vision? Or is it just an OCD/OCPD effect?
To me personally, stuff like this is pointless to have an issue with even on a phone that costs $1000. Unless it's to the point where you can't use the device because you see the defect on everything.
To another comment I saw that included the word "Perfect," NOTHING is perfect, and there will never be such a thing that could be perfect because of our human definition of what perfection is. It's good to strive for Better, but it's pointless to strive for Perfection.
Btw, I did download the Pic and tested it on my Note 9 and my wife's Note 8, and the uniformity is affected on both devices. I also looked at the image on my 4K TVs and my LCD monitors and the effect is there. Are you sure the image itself is uniform?

Jammol said:
So my question is, does this affect your use of the device? Is it causing wear and tear on you vision? Or is it just an OCD/OCPD effect?
To me personally, stuff like this is pointless to have an issue with even on a phone that costs $1000. Unless it's to the point where you can't use the device because you see the defect on everything.
To another comment I saw that included the word "Perfect," NOTHING is perfect, and there will never be such a thing that could be perfect because of our human definition of what perfection is. It's good to strive for Better, but it's pointless to strive for Perfection.
Btw, I did download the Pic and tested it on my Note 9 and my wife's Note 8, and the uniformity is affected on both devices. I also looked at the image on my 4K TVs and my LCD monitors and the effect is there. Are you sure the image itself is uniform?
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Perfect screens exist. I have some. I have perfect eyesight. I was a combat helicopter pilot in the french army. I know what to look for. If it is there I see it. If it is not, I don't. It's a fact. It's science. Not some voodoo magic wishful thinking.
I've had terrible screens. I've had some perfect. Nowadays I get more good ones than bad.
Bad ones still exist, but it my opinion that they are less and less common.
Against clear backgrounds you won't see much apart from a slight shift in color temperature.
Against dark grey at indoor brightness you can have incredible differences between some parts of the screen.
If you use a dark theme (not black), you will see it all the time.
Does it prevents you from using the phone ? No of course not.
Does it suck on a 1000 dollars phone ? Yes.
Some people are insensitive to that kind of thing. Good for them.
It's not an OCD. It's the will to have a good looking screen.
I like good looking women. I don't think it's an OCD. I know what I want, that's all. And I want the best. Nothing less.
If you want to settle with average, good for you.

Latoc said:
Perfect screens exist. I have some. I have perfect eyesight. I was a combat helicopter pilot in the french army. I know what to look for. If it is there I see it. If it is not, I don't. It's a fact. It's science. Not some voodoo magic wishful thinking.
I've had terrible screens. I've had some perfect. Nowadays I get more good ones than bad.
Bad ones still exist, but it my opinion that they are less and less common.
Against clear backgrounds you won't see much apart from a slight shift in color temperature.
Against dark grey at indoor brightness you can have incredible differences between some parts of the screen.
If you use a dark theme (not black), you will see it all the time.
Does it prevents you from using the phone ? No of course not.
Does it suck on a 1000 dollars phone ? Yes.
Some people are insensitive to that kind of thing. Good for them.
It's not an OCD. It's the will to have a good looking screen.
I like good looking women. I don't think it's an OCD. I know what I want, that's all. And I want the best. Nothing less.
If you want to settle with average, good for you.
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I literally stopped reading at "Perfect eyesight." And then I went back and read your reply...and I still stopped at perfect eyesight. I wish I was as perfect as you man. For real...???

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I literally stopped reading at "Perfect eyesight." And then I went back and read your reply...and I still stopped at perfect eyesight. I wish I was as perfect as you man. For real...??
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You do know that you have to have a perfect eyesight to be a combat pilot, do you ?
Acuity, color, contrast, night vision, side vision, field of view, and much more. Everything is tested BEFORE you're even allowed to go forward in the selection process.
Most people fail those tests. That's sad but that's life.
As a side note, you don't have to have perfect vision to see those screen problems.
They can be very obvious to anybody open minded enough.
Close minded people though, will always be impervious to such matter.

Latoc said:
You do know that you have to have a perfect eyesight to be a combat pilot, do you ?
Acuity, color, contrast, night vision, side vision, field of view, and much more. Everything is tested BEFORE you're even allowed to go forward in the selection process.
Most people fail those tests. That's sad but that's life.
As a side note, you don't have to have perfect vision to see those screen problems.
They can be very obvious to anybody open minded enough.
Close minded people though, will always be impervious to such matter.
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You literally missed the most important part of my original post. That's why I stopped reading your post.
And yes I do know you have to have "Perfect" eyesight to join some military air forces.?
And I hope you aren't calling me closed minded. I never said someone has to have perfect eyesight to see the differences of the pixels in the image.
Anyways, I'm done with this. Quite pointless now.??