Nexus 4 Backlash - Nexus 4 General

I'm really not understanding why so many people dislike the Nexus 4. Is it due to the terrible launch? And why keep comparing it to the Galaxy S3? Vanilla Android and Touchwiz both have their ups and downs. Lack of LTE really shouldnt be an issue unless you are on Verizon. For $350 (including tax of course ) you get a phone with a quadcore processor,Adreno 320 GPU, fully unlocked, and timely updates. Not to mention the amount of money you wiuld save getting a prepaid service no contract.
Sorry if I made a few mistakes. This is my first post in this forum and just received my Nexus 4. Any advice would be helpful for future threads.

jlbanks said:
I'm really not understanding why so many people dislike the Nexus 4. Is it due to the terrible launch? And why keep comparing it to the Galaxy S3? Vanilla Android and Touchwiz both have their ups and downs. Lack of LTE really shouldnt be an issue unless you are on Verizon. For $350 (including tax of course ) you get a phone with a quadcore processor,Adreno 320 GPU, fully unlocked, and timely updates. Not to mention the amount of money you wiuld save getting a prepaid service no contract.
Sorry if I made a few mistakes. This is my first post in this forum and just received my Nexus 4. Any advice would be helpful for future threads.
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I don't think you're gonna find anyone who dislikes the Nexus 4 here bro

jlbanks said:
I'm really not understanding why so many people dislike the Nexus 4. Is it due to the terrible launch? And why keep comparing it to the Galaxy S3? Vanilla Android and Touchwiz both have their ups and downs. Lack of LTE really shouldnt be an issue unless you are on Verizon. For $350 (including tax of course ) you get a phone with a quadcore processor,Adreno 320 GPU, fully unlocked, and timely updates. Not to mention the amount of money you wiuld save getting a prepaid service no contract.
Sorry if I made a few mistakes. This is my first post in this forum and just received my Nexus 4. Any advice would be helpful for future threads.
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I have a note 2, gs3, gs2, galaxy nexus, droid RAZR, iPhone 5, and a nexus 4. Guess which one is my favorite? The nexus 4!!
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No not here. I see it in numerous forums and threads. People bash the nexus 4 before they bash the S3. Its being compared to the S4 and that phone hasn't even came out yet!
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I don't know, people like to nitpick. My problem with the Nexus 4 is the same as the Galaxy Nexus I previously owned, its never 100% perfect, even after an RMA, there is still a bit of black light bleeding, a little bit of this, and a little bit of that, my wireless charging orb stopped working, had to RMA that, and so on, the Nexus line to me has always had some flaws in terms of hardware reliability.
That being said, the Nexus 4 is among the most beautiful phones, up there with the high end Xperia phones, and with amazing hardware, so asides from the hardware imperfections that one might encounter if unlucky, its a great phone.
I cannot think of a single phone other than the new Xperia (if aosp) that is coming out that I would trade my Nexus 4 for.

jlbanks said:
No not here. I see it in numerous forums and threads. People bash the nexus 4 before they bash the S3. Its being compared to the S4 and that phone hasn't even came out yet!
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People bash it because they don't have it
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twolfekc said:
People bash it because they don't have it
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you just might be right sir. This is actually my first nexus device. I honestly was really close in getting the S3 until I saw this technological beauty being demoed at a local T-Mobile store. I swear I heard the phone calling my name lol. I immediately forgot all about the S3 and purchased the N4 full price.

Where is this so called backlash at?
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Jealousy is a powerful emotion.
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Well maybe not a backlash, but numerous threads and forums bash the nexus 4 as if Google completely messed up the device. Lack of LTE, lack of storage, glass back (guess they forgot about the "rave" reviews about iPhone 4 hardware), phone isn't thin enough, etc. CNET gave the phone a 3.5 out of 5 while S3 got a 4 out of 5. They gave the Galaxy Nexus a 5 out of 5 and the N4 is a complete upgrade! So a removable battery on Galaxy Nexus makes it perfect?
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jlbanks said:
Well maybe not a backlash, but numerous threads and forums bash the nexus 4 as if Google completely messed up the device. Lack of LTE, lack of storage, glass back (guess they forgot about the "rave" reviews about iPhone 4 hardware), phone isn't thin enough, etc. CNET gave the phone a 3.5 out of 5 while S3 got a 4 out of 5. They gave the Galaxy Nexus a 5 out of 5 and the N4 is a complete upgrade! So a removable battery on Galaxy Nexus makes it perfect?
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Don't pay attention to ***** ratings.. Nothing but a popularity contest.. Read the conclusions and see if the `cons' are anything you deem a problem. They focused on lack of LTE which is a legit gripe no matter how you spin it and how well HSPA+ works.. It is a technology that is sort expected now a days. But.. Unless it personally affects you.. Then it doesn't matter..
They also focused on calling it "uninspiring" "not expanding the Nexus brand".. That's when I stop taking them seriously.. When reviewers start getting all Martha Stewart on you.. It's time to stop reading.

It is just not flawless: back glass, which can crack in any day, noise from earpiece, non-vibrant screen - these spoil impression from the phone. It is my first nexus devise (I had xperia Ion before it) and I expected much more from it. I still haven't decided which one to sell - Nexus or Ion. Ion is flawless except that hardware quite old.

And that's what makes the difference between the nexus 4 and everything else. It will constantly get updates before any other phone. I can totally understand the glass back being fragile.
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I'm not trying to sound like a fanboy with this being my first nexus device. But honestly where else are you going to find an unlocked top tier phone with high end specs for $300. Put in perspective, a galaxy note 2 costs $299 with a two year contract. That's not even the full price of actual phone which is over $600. Over $600 for a phone that may or may not get Key Lime Pie. The nexus is guaranteed to get it and faster than anybody else.
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Have the thermal throttling issues been resolved since launch?

jlbanks said:
I'm not trying to sound like a fanboy with this being my first nexus device. But honestly where else are you going to find an unlocked top tier phone with high end specs for $300. Put in perspective, a galaxy note 2 costs $299 with a two year contract. That's not even the full price of actual phone which is over $600. Over $600 for a phone that may or may not get Key Lime Pie. The nexus is guaranteed to get it and faster than anybody else.
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For me it doesn't matter how much it costs - I could buy iphone 5, but I don't like iOS. Price is just a good bonus. Having top hardware specs is good, but will not you feel disappointed if your back glass is cracked? And this state of waiting and checking if it is cracked or not... I hate being in situation like this. Maybe in some time I will stop thinking of this. Will not you be disappointed if you had another device with worse specs, but with so much better display?

That's a good question...
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I'm not saying cost should be a factor, but rather value. Look at what u get for such a low cost. I can understand the glass back being an issue. But I'd rather have the back shatter then the display itself. Luckily I have a case. Either way I would be disappointed. But which would really tick u off, shattering a phone $700 or shattering a phone $300?
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jonathanyong said:
Have the thermal throttling issues been resolved since launch?
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I'm not sure as of yet. From what I've read it hasnt been that much of an issue unless you're doing extreme multitasking. So far Ive played Need for Speed Most Wanted while listening to music and it hasnt shut down yet. It does heat up though but not bad enough to shut the entire phone down.

jlbanks said:
But which would really tick u off, shattering a phone $700 or shattering a phone $300?
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I spent 475$ for 16 GB version - that is its price in the UK. And i spent about 100$ for different accessories for it (skins, cases, etc). Maybe if lived in US and bought it for 300 I would have a different opinion

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You Think Google Will Choose Asus Again?

I don't think so, this whole defect thing definitely left a stain on the Nexus brand.
When you think Nexus, you think perfect.
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I can almost guarantee there were more devices that were perfect versus those that had issues. Plus Googles time frame for start to finish was a little ridiculous.
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No chance in hell they use crappy Asus again. I'd put money on it.
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Maybe they'll change up the way they release a new product through the Google Play store. The whole bit with people being able to get them through retail channels faster than the preorders was a disaster. I hope they stay with Asus, if they can learn from their mistakes. I'm sure it's a pretty steep learning curve for the manufacturing and QC guys for any new product line.
Yes. I think most of ASUS problems are with it's initial batch of tablets. After about a month things seem to smooth out. So I'll probably do my best to hold out a month next time. But that's so hard for me because I'm impatient too.
GeneralCrocket said:
I don't think so, this whole defect thing definitely left a stain on the Nexus brand.
When you think Nexus, you think perfect.
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There's threads like yours in the galaxy nexus forums saying the exact same thing but about Samsung and how google should choose another company. All these companies will have their own problems. The nexus like is not perfect and not meant to be, its where google test its new android builds.
I'm really surprised to hear about all the quality issues with the Nexus, it's pretty disappointing . I have the OG Transformer and I LOVE it, it's been amazing.
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I can almost guarantee there were more devices that were perfect versus those that had issues. Plus Googles time frame for start to finish was a little ridiculous.
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I agree with the time frame being ridiculous, but I don't know about most devices being perfect considering how many people are going through multiple replacements with defects. It'd be different if the first replacements everyone got were perfect, but I see a lot of people settling on units with relatively minor defects because they fear that their 4th replacement will be worse than their 3rd. I love my Nexus 7, but even I'm settling on the minor defects that it has (minor screen separation and multitouch issue) because I'm afraid that a replacement would be much worse.
No matter which OEM Google uses in the future, there will always be unhappy people. My device is rock solid and defect free.
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Classic mistake... Listening to a vocal few instead of noting the happy silence of the overwhelming majority of satisfied customers.
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You know, I really can't say. We know of EVERY little problem the N7 has because we come to this forum. But I think Google has had and expects stuff like this, with any company.
I've had 2 Asus Android tablets, and both have problems. The N7 has very slight screen lift ( no big deal to me) and that's it. My Transformer Prime had shot GPS, crappy WiFi, and buggy software....BUT, I love what they do. The Transformer line is one of a kind beast, and the N7 is even better. First 10" Tegra 3 tablet with keyboard dock style, First 7" Tegra 3 tablet with JB...for $199 to top it off So I think I am willing to take chances to stay on the newest/ hottest gear...and Asus has that gear. So I'd say Google should give Asus another shot if they can fill their needs.
To be fair, screen Flickr is because of the tegra 3 (it is an issue with teg3 HTC ONE X's; screen color problems = defects from the screen manufacturers (LG, SHARP, SONY,not Asus)... Same issues in OneX/XL/S's with varying hue and color temp.
Screen edge coming up or slightly moving.... Because it's not glued in, making it easier to service... Pop off the backing and tighten the damn screws.
Some people have the slightest issues and return items blowing the issue excessively out of proportion... Some of these people are also the most vocal on forums.
Ultimately the returns/exchanges are less than 1% of total units sold and happens to every device. Let's remember when the Xoom first came out... Anyone? Lol
GeneralCrocket said:
I don't think so, this whole defect thing
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Errm, what "defect thing"...
Or are you one of these unfortunate people that have no concept of perspective and context?
Bonekeep said:
Classic mistake... Listening to a vocal few instead of noting the happy silence of the overwhelming majority of satisfied customers.
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Ding ding ding.
And even for those with defects, they aren't exploding, they aren't catching on fire. They just didn't use enough glue on one single side. Not a big deal.
As a rather funny note, all the ASUS preorder hate seems irrelevant in Germany where the device isn't even available yet at all.
Sometimes, Google is way too USA.
neotekz said:
There's threads like yours in the galaxy nexus forums saying the exact same thing but about Samsung and how google should choose another company. All these companies will have their own problems. The nexus like is not perfect and not meant to be, its where google test its new android builds.
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i agree.
my vote is for yes. if google releases a nexus10, i bet asus will build it
When the Galaxy Nexus was released when it connected to 2G networks the volume would automatically decrease, do you think Google have scratched Samsung off their list too?
Why not? Asus are a wonderful manufacturer.
My Nexus 7 is perfect and my Samsung Galaxy Nexus is, too. I was worried about my products after reading these forums and I was constantly having to check for defects just to make myself feel better and then I realised how silly that is. Headaches over nothing, because a small minority are incredibly vocal!
I am always behind Asus after using their motherboards/monitors and enjoying my previous TF101 tablet.
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4 months to production is unheard of in this market. They gave us something cheap, fast, and good, so I am hoping Asus becomes the 'go to' manufacture for nexus tablet's.
Looking forward to November's nexus devices, and hope Asus is putting together a bigger tablet with a keyboard (2560x1600)
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I hope this spurs Google to start using their Motorola facilities to produce devices with nothing but 'nexus' etched into the back.
These OEMs with their disgraceful reskins, false promises of support, and either shoddy or overpriced hardware. They deserve nothing more.
It would also settle the patent war.
StuMcBill said:
When the Galaxy Nexus was released when it connected to 2G networks the volume would automatically decrease, do you think Google have scratched Samsung off their list too?
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Sounds like a software thing.

Best phone to compliment the Nexus 7?

I'm thinking of getting a new cell phone I hace an iPhone right now. What would people recommend?
I'm looking at a One X+ on ATT or maybe a Galaxy Nexus on Sprint.
knitler said:
I'm thinking of getting a new cell phone I hace an iPhone right now. What would people recommend?
I'm looking at a One X+ on ATT or maybe a Galaxy Nexus on Sprint.
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either the galaxy nexus or nexus 4. dont get a gn for sprint, a gsm gn on att would be better(would be best on tmobile). sprint data speeds are terrible, 3g and lte.
I guess first thing we need to know is what carrier. People will say DNA, note2, gs3, nexus4. In the end any phone will compliment the n7. I have a thunderbolt and does just fine for me. I tether to my n7 and sit the phone aside while I use my n7.
One thing to keep in mind about the gnex is battery life is very poor. People has posted it lasting 4 to 5 hrs tops. In the end any phone you get will be fine and no phone will have an edge over another. Only thing a n7 needs from a phone is tethering.
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Dark Jedi said:
I guess first thing we need to know is what carrier. People will say DNA, note2, gs3, nexus4. In the end any phone will compliment the n7. I have a thunderbolt and does just fine for me. I tether to my n7 and sit the phone aside while I use my n7.
One thing to keep in mind about the gnex is battery life is very poor. People has posted it lasting 4 to 5 hrs tops. In the end any phone you get will be fine and no phone will have an edge over another. Only thing a n7 needs from a phone is tethering.
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not true. galaxy nexus battery life is very good(gsm. lte versions are a bit worse). i easily get 4-5 hours screen time on my gnex. if i use it lightly, it can last for days. if i use it heavily, itll last all day easily.
I would have to say any of the nexus phones or mkbhd's "super nexus" what is a routed
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Dark Jedi said:
I guess first thing we need to know is what carrier. People will say DNA, note2, gs3, nexus4. In the end any phone will compliment the n7. I have a thunderbolt and does just fine for me. I tether to my n7 and sit the phone aside while I use my n7.
One thing to keep in mind about the gnex is battery life is very poor. People has posted it lasting 4 to 5 hrs tops. In the end any phone you get will be fine and no phone will have an edge over another. Only thing a n7 needs from a phone is tethering.
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I can use any carries want I'm not bound to anyone right now.
simms22 said:
either the galaxy nexus or nexus 4. dont get a gn for sprint, a gsm gn on att would be better(would be best on tmobile). sprint data speeds are terrible, 3g and lte.
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I'm looking @ Sprint because of all the Unlimited stuff and its $10/mo cheaper than Att's cheapest.
knitler said:
I can use any carries want I'm not bound to anyone right now.
I'm looking @ Sprint because of all the Unlimited stuff and its $10/mo cheaper than Att's cheapest.
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i read nothing but complaints about sprints data speeds. bad data speeds = bad battery life/frustrationq. youve been warned, lol
Nexus 4
I would say nexus 4 without a doubt, its great hardware for a great price. And having all nexus devices is great
https://www.google.com/nexus/4/
Considering the site you are asking on - the Nexus 4 of course!
Oli1122 said:
I would say nexus 4 without a doubt, its great hardware for a great price. And having all nexus devices is great
https://www.google.com/nexus/4/
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Sadly its sold out.
Dark Jedi said:
One thing to keep in mind about the gnex is battery life is very poor. People has posted it lasting 4 to 5 hrs tops. In the end any phone you get will be fine and no phone will have an edge over another. Only thing a n7 needs from a phone is tethering.
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Not true at all. The galaxy nexus battery life is very good. I easily make it through the day on a single charge. Obviously if you play games and watch videos non stop then it will go like any other phone, but like I said. The battery life for the gnex is very good.
Also I would say to the OP that a nexus handset would compliment the nexus 7 very well. Either the galaxy nexus or nexus 4 would be a good choice. Depends on preference really.
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Nexus 4 or a GNex but like people have said the N4 is sold out so I would get a Gnex. DROID Dna or One X+ are also great phones. I wouldn't go with sprint I hear nothing but bad things about them. My father has sprint and half the time I get a bad connection with him and he gets dropped calls constantly. Data isn't very good either. I'm with at&t and have no problem with them but if I hadn't been with at&t for 8 years I would go with T mobile.
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galaxy nexus or the new nexus 4 are great with a nexus n7. Using the n7 means i use the phone less to browse and youtube meaning i get great battery life out of both, but the galaxy nexus is always there ready to google something if i need it.
I usually get 3days battery from my galaxy nexus
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There's too many variables to suggest you a new phone. It's you that matters.
Do you love taking photos with a phone? Would you take advantage of a replaceable battery? Do you like to play a lot of games? Do you like a huge screen or would you prefer better one handed use? Do you like a screen with realistic colours or one with in her face colour saturation? Can you use 4G where you live? Do you use your phone as an mp3 player all the time?...
The list goes on. What is a great phone for someone else may not necessarily be a great phone for you.
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I just ordered a samsung galaxy Nexus. That's red hot with dev activity if you check it out.
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necropuppy said:
I just ordered a samsung galaxy Nexus. That's red hot with dev activity if you check it out.
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I'm considering getting one instead of an N4. I just love amoled screens, and the extra processing power of an n4 is not important to me since all my real gaming is done on my N7 now. My phone, like someone else mentioned in another thread, plays WiFi tether ***** more than anything now.
To be honest I'm still perfectly happy with my galaxy i9000. Since I've already bought an N7 though I'd go for the galaxy nexus for the HD amoled screen mainly. The only thing making me wonder was a guy a few posts ago saying the battery life is poor on the gnex, although at least its got a replaceable battery. But like you say the development on it is similar to the huge development still going on for the original galaxy s which is what I want. Although the n4 will have huge development too.
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knitler said:
I can use any carries want I'm not bound to anyone right now.
I'm looking @ Sprint because of all the Unlimited stuff and its $10/mo cheaper than Att's cheapest.
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If you want unlimited and you're looking at going with a contract there's always T-Mobiles unlimited option, their unlimited value plan is 70 bucks for legit unlimited. And I would recommend a nexus phone also. If you can't get ahold of a nexus 4 maybe try to find a used gsm g'nex.
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The nexus 7 is the most valuable electronic device for the money in my opinion. Therefore the phone to accent it should be equally priced well per pound. Nexus 4 then skyrocket s2 or t mobile s2 before galaxy nexus because of SD slot.
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knuckles1978 said:
I'm considering getting one instead of an N4. I just love amoled screens, and the extra processing power of an n4 is not important to me since all my real gaming is done on my N7 now. My phone, like someone else mentioned in another thread, plays WiFi tether ***** more than anything now.
To be honest I'm still perfectly happy with my galaxy i9000. Since I've already bought an N7 though I'd go for the galaxy nexus for the HD amoled screen mainly. The only thing making me wonder was a guy a few posts ago saying the battery life is poor on the gnex, although at least its got a replaceable battery. But like you say the development on it is similar to the huge development still going on for the original galaxy s which is what I want. Although the n4 will have huge development too.
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My GNex got great battery life much better stock than my N4 now I gain much more battery on my N4 with custom kernels than I did on my GNex but battery was never a huge issue for me with it. I'd rather not go AMOLED anymore but if I did it would be a GNex again over a GS3 that's why I kept my GNex and didn't sell it. But if u can hold out a lil longer the N4 is to me far superior. I agree with the post above about now that I have an N7 too I use it more for my browsing and entertainment activities except while at work where my N4 is still my best friend. Better battery life now for my N4 as I use it far less cause of the N7. If u like AMOLED go with the GNex:thumbup:
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The nexus 7 is the most valuable electronic device for the money in my opinion. Therefore the phone to accent it should be equally priced well per pound. Nexus 4 then skyrocket s2 or t mobile s2 before galaxy nexus because of SD slot.
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I also own a skyrocket and if battery life is an issue I would shy away from the skyrocket. IMHO
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I ended up with the One X+ on AT&T

Negatives on Nexus 4

Seems like every time a new nexus seems like in the first three months you can't say anything negative about the phone. It must be better than everything else or bust. Its like the phone you own defines you as a person. Seems like if you think something is bad about a nexus something is wrong with you and a lot you guys attack people who are actually in touch with reality.
Apple does not give a hot damn about a nexus and it laughable to think the number 1 phone maker on the planet is worried about us. The fact that some think they have a hidden smear campaign is just nuts.
The nexus 4 is an awesome phone but it has some flaws like everything else. You can lie to yourself to make your purchase feel better but facts are facts. Here are some of the negatives so people thinking of buying this phone can now what is true and to expect.
1. This phone is very fragile ( more than any other phone I owned ). Its glass front and back so expect to own a case and screen protectors. If this phone is gorilla glass its the crappiest I have ever seen or the weakest. All these guys saying they drop there phones and not even a mark, come on. Common sense you can look at this phone and tell any hard floor and a drop over 1 foot something is getting marked or cracked.
2. After you crack the front the screen stops working and the phone is pretty much junk might as well buy a new one. This is not an iPhone so replacement parts will be hard to find and cost will be high. I can crack an iPhone and for 30-40 bucks fix it myself. Good luck on this its the same as the nexus 7. Once cracked it is pretty much worthless.
3. Phone does get pretty warm if the screen is on for about 20 min even on auto brightness. I know its a thin phone but even with a case its hot in the back.
4. Screen colors are washed and LCD is not great. Not saying its bad but its not winning any awards. Put this next almost any other top phone and you will see why people say its washed. Yes you can adjust but you have to root and flash custom and a custom kernel for best results. Then its a little better but it will always be an LCD can't change that. Viewing angles no good and blacks are not deep blacks.
5. Battery life is just ok, some may even say bad. I am on custom ROMs so its a little better but around 4 hours on screen time on average.
There are a few other minor things but for the most part these are the flaws. I still suggest this phone because its cheap, its unlocked, super fast, stock android, and its sleek and sexy. I am not a troll spent over 2 grand ordering nexus 4's, probably donated hundreds of dollars to devs.
Post what you think the negatives are of this phone.
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Think you got most of them, though you forgot to mention the lack of usb otg. It would have been pretty useful, as it was on the Galaxy Nexus.
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Sorry I have to disagree.
I have no heating issues, the LCD is far superior than my HTC one x was, and I get consistently over 5 hours screen on time. Unbelievable if you ask me.
Yea USB otg...but I never use it so meh.
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ptesmoke said:
Sorry I have to disagree.
I have no heating issues, the LCD is far superior than my HTC one x was, and I get consistently over 5 hours screen on time. Unbelievable if you ask me.
Yea USB otg...but I never use it so meh.
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And your stock right? I mean depending what you customize you can get 5 hours but a screen shot would help of proof. And the LCD I'm not saying is bad just not amazing. Its sharp but when I look at an amoled I start missing it again.
Yeah I didn't want to name the minor stuff, lots of people don't even know what USB otg is, could said lack of storage, yellow tint, no LTE, etc.
Main flaw is the whole scratch easy and breaks easy and don't break the front glass or it stops working. Has anyone found out why the nexus 7 and 4 have this problem. I am guessing its somewhere along the line of this how they got the cost down so much. After breaking a nexus 7 on carpet I kinda want Google to make the devices better builds or release some cheap parts to fix them.
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ptesmoke said:
Sorry I have to disagree.
the LCD is far superior than my HTC one x was,
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Either you had a dud one x or a very special nexus 4.
My one x screen was waaaay better than my nexus 4.
And to the OP.
You forgot nexus 4 has a very average camera.
Troll.
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Fataldesain said:
And your stock right? I mean depending what you customize you can get 5 hours but a screen shot would help of proof. And the LCD I'm not saying is bad just not amazing. Its sharp but when I look at an amoled I start missing it again.
Yeah I didn't want to name the minor stuff, lots of people don't even know what USB otg is, could said lack of storage, yellow tint, no LTE, etc.
Main flaw is the whole scratch easy and breaks easy and don't break the front glass or it stops working. Has anyone found out why the nexus 7 and 4 have this problem. I am guessing its somewhere along the line of this how they got the cost down so much. After breaking a nexus 7 on carpet I kinda want Google to make the devices better builds or release some cheap parts to fix them.
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Not too sure about the N7, but the N4 uses zero gap technology. I don't really remember the details but it's something along the lines of removing a layer from between the screen and digitizer so they can have a screen without a bezel.
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Either you had a dud one x or a very special nexus 4.
My one x screen was waaaay better than my nexus 4.
And to the OP.
You forgot nexus 4 has a very average camera.
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I shoulda said one Xl...the lte one x. the screen was good...but not as accurate as my n4. plus whatever coating lg used on the n4 glass is miles ahead of whatever the hell HTC sprayed on the x.
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And your stock right? I mean depending what you customize you can get 5 hours but a screen shot would help of proof. And the LCD I'm not saying is bad just not amazing. Its sharp but when I look at an amoled I start missing it again.
Yeah I didn't want to name the minor stuff, lots of people don't even know what USB otg is, could said lack of storage, yellow tint, no LTE, etc.
Main flaw is the whole scratch easy and breaks easy and don't break the front glass or it stops working. Has anyone found out why the nexus 7 and 4 have this problem. I am guessing its somewhere along the line of this how they got the cost down so much. After breaking a nexus 7 on carpet I kinda want Google to make the devices better builds or release some cheap parts to fix them.
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I'm not stock now no... but when I was I still hit 5 hours screen time. custom ROM/kernel now just gets me about another 30mins on top of that.
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Then go buy an iPhone
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Then go buy an iPhone
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Yep knew this was coming, typical.
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when I got my nexus 4, I couldnt wait for it to come and try it out. i was coming from an htc one x. and no way in the world does the nexus 4 screen come close to the htc one x's. and my nexus 4 started having random shutoffs, heated up, battery was draining faster than i could charge. and the camera sucks on this phone. I got myself a note 2 its a solid device and I do miss the pure google experience, but tbh LG effed it up.
My biggest complaints:
-battery life is atrocious compared to my previous devices
-volume rocker gets hit a lot when pushing wake button one-handed
-google support, I feel like I was somewhat suckered into purchasing by having a Qi charging orb, miracast accessories, and the bumper dangled in front of me only to have them nonexistent, sold out and/or just plain silent when it comes to answers regarding future availability
-the flash on the camera needs to be toned down
-audio is pretty muffled when using speakerphone and phone is laying on it's back, thanks to speaker location
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I also have to disagree with the last three points
My phone only gets warm with intense CPU stuff (which is expected...)
I love the colors, and I can easily manipulate them to give richer, deeper colors through kernels and what not of I grow unhappy later
Battery for me is really good... 4+ screen in 18+ hours... On 3G with WiFi its 6+ in 20+
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when I got my nexus 4, I couldnt wait for it to come and try it out. i was coming from an htc one x. and no way in the world does the nexus 4 screen come close to the htc one x's. and my nexus 4 started having random shutoffs, heated up, battery was draining faster than i could charge. and the camera sucks on this phone. I got myself a note 2 its a solid device and I do miss the pure google experience, but tbh LG effed it up.
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Dont blame the phone, blame your brain
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I am not going to discuss the other points but, you are right, the phone is very fragile. Mine suffer a falling from about one meter which cracks the screen. In any case, the replacement by an official client service costs near 150€, transport included, so the complain about the components cost its not fair.
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Coming from S2 with stock rom / custom kernel
N4
NEG
- battery life is not that great during usage
- camera is not that great.. even compare to my s2 which is almost 2 years behind
- never drop it yet, but using a case so i dont think it would be that bad
- OOS !! at first i was planning to get a 8 gb.. but they only had the 16 gb instock .. total cost was $420 due to tax and shipping in Canada
@Fataldesaign what's the matter with you??
You've started at least 8 anti-nexus 4 thread in this forum, most of them which for locked. All of your thread are something negative.
I remember you ate the same guy from that thread where you started calling everyone your hater and all ... There's no need to start so many thread on the flaws of Nexus 4. One or two is OK.
Thread reported. Kindly do not make useless threads now.
I don't understand why people come in some phone's forum, and make a thread "faults of this phone". I mean, if you don't like this phone, at least don't turn those who spent money in getting the device against it? It may have its flaws, but we are OK with them. We don't need reminders about the bad things. I mean, constructive criticism is GOOD. But not pointless pointing out of flaws...
If you have complaints, kindly submit an error report to Google.
Hope you get my point.
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You guessed it, this is no different to all your other threads that have been closed. You like to complain and that's understandable but all these threads achieve is to troll and wind up other users so no real purpose to them.
Thanks again for your opinion but maybe try be more constructive with your next thread.
Thanks
AvRS

On the fence

So I am on the fence. I currently have the s3 and I am trying to hold out with the mindset that Sammy will release some updates in the near future that will smooth this puppy out a little more ( less dropped frames) and bring some of the software enhancements found in the s4. I have been wanting the s4 since before its release today I found what I think to be a killer deal. A girl in my area on craiglist has a new in the box s4 and she is asking 400 for it. By far the cheapest I have seen on craiglist to date. My big too is that my contract is up and I really don't want to renew it cause I am also thinking of switching providers as sprints 3g data speeds and coverage is real shotty in Vegas. What are your guys thoughts is it really worth the upgrade?
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I upgraded from the s3 and while I dont think its a huge update, I totally love the screen. Its so crisp and bright. I used my mom's upgrade since she wanted my s3 but if I didnt have the option, i would of just waited til next year to upgrade
I traded my S3 into Best Buy and got $262.50 the had them price match Amazon on the S4 for $599. So I paid $385 off contract after tax. The phone is great and I still have my upgrade on July 1st still.
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GiantJay said:
I traded my S3 into Best Buy and got $262.50 the had them price match Amazon on the S4 for $599. So I paid $385 off contract after tax. The phone is great and I still have my upgrade on July 1st still.
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That's a really good idea. The other route I was thinking of going is getting the 400 dollar one of craiglist then trying to sell mine for 300 that way I am only put of pocket 100 and stiff have no contract.
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cas8180 said:
That's a really good idea. The other route I was thinking of going is getting the 400 dollar one of craiglist then trying to sell mine for 300 that way I am only put of pocket 100 and stiff have no contract.
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If you do get that phone I would tell the person to meet you at a Sprint corporate store and activate the device while they are there. As a safety precaution of not getting a phone with a bad esn or something stolen that can't be activated.
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I wouldn't. Your only improvement is the 1080p screen. You will be able to do anything with the S3 that you can do on the 4. At least until the S5 or Note 3 come out. But buy the S4 and sell it for a profit. Never waist a good deal
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I wouldn't. Your only improvement is the 1080p screen. You will be able to do anything with the S3 that you can do on the 4. At least until the S5 or Note 3 come out. But buy the S4 and sell it for a profit. Never waist a good deal
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Agreed with this. I personally prefer to to upgrade every 2 generations. I skipped the S3 and will skip the S5 as well.
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I just bought a s4 on craigslist for $450 un-opened and sold my s3 for $300.. so I've spent $150. And I love the upgrade! If you can get the s4 for $100 (after selling your s3) I would jump on it, you won't regret it. And yes meet at the sprint dealer, or call sprint and check the esn right there before you give them money. That's what I did.
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I wouldn't. Your only improvement is the 1080p screen. You will be able to do anything with the S3 that you can do on the 4. At least until the S5 or Note 3 come out. But buy the S4 and sell it for a profit. Never waist a good deal
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Nuh-uh! I have ir blaster and can tell you the temperature and stuff!
But in all seriousness, I have yet to find what my n2, works s3, and hell, even my e4gt lacked over this for personal/business use.
One thing is for certain; this phone has better hardware for signal and net speed over the rest in the po-dunk town I live in.
Still excited for the n3 but I don't, overall, regret getting this.
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I'd buy that S4, sell the S3 and remain off contract for the S5. You're pretty much paying contract price for the S4, and it will probably command more $$ than the S3 when the S5 is out. Seems like a no brainer to me.
And I gave my S3 to another rep to keep her contract open, have the Note 2 on my line and have it on ebay now with 17 people watching and good bidding going on. Picked up the S4 on a spare line that gets used as a dummy company phone where the Hero works just fine. So selling the Note 2 will net me close to $200, and I have the one contract open to pick up the S5 or god forbid a premium slider for the next go around. That should be "The Next Big Thing" that will most likely not happen.
The screen is a touch nicer. I like the extra screen real estate for typing, especially coming off the Note 2. The res bump is noticeable but not that dramatic. The extra horses, IR blaster and sensors are a nice bonus too.
And not that it matters, but you'll have more bragging rights around the iphone 5S crowd. I work with a bunch of iphone owners who are starting to turn on their iphones (especially the 5), but still like to raz.
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I wouldn't. Your only improvement is the 1080p screen. You will be able to do anything with the S3 that you can do on the 4. At least until the S5 or Note 3 come out. But buy the S4 and sell it for a profit. Never waist a good deal
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The S4 is a great update compared one thing dual core version quad better display ir blaster 4.2.2 them right there only make it a major update from the S3. The thing is the list goes on and on. Anyone that thinks they are the same device just one has a better display is dead wrong and probably have never even seen a S4 in real life lol. Not saying you have not just saying in general.
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I also wouldn't do it...I'm pretty sure the S3 will get updated soon and there really isn't a HUGE difference between the two phones. If it was a Galaxy S2 that would be a different story
Had E4GT.
Upgraded to S3 - Huge improvement. Can't even try to compare.
Upgraded to S4 - Huge improvement.
S3 and S4 may be look alike but there is almost nothing alike inside them.
There are huge improvments and updates on both hardware and software levels.
The list is too long to type it up.
As for service here in Las Vegas.
I'm starting to get more and more 4G signals. Speed is still not to impressive 4.5-7.5 Mb/s but this is a good start.
Apperantly sprint is building his 4G LTE network here and doing it rather fast.
To get a better idea I would suggest to try the phone in store or may be one of your friends has it.
I think ones you get a feel of it you won't think twice to switch.
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Had E4GT.
Upgraded to S3 - Huge improvement. Can't even try to compare.
Upgraded to S4 - Huge improvement.
S3 and S4 may be look alike but there is almost nothing alike inside them.
There are huge improvments and updates on both hardware and software levels.
The list is too long to type it up.
As for service here in Las Vegas.
I'm starting to get more and more 4G signals. Speed is still not to impressive 4.5-7.5 Mb/s but this is a good start.
Apperantly sprint is building his 4G LTE network here and doing it rather fast.
To get a better idea I would suggest to try the phone in store or may be one of your friends has it.
I think ones you get a feel of it you won't think twice to switch.
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I have to agree with everything here. I have had basically every Galaxy, though I started with the OG G1 on Tmobile, and I can say every upgrade is substantial in my eyes.
Like Agat said, the design is similar, but that's because Samsung is trying to establish a brand with the Galaxy series looking similar to another with small design improvements as they move a long. Personally I love how the S4 looks compared to the S3, way less rounded and flatter, more candy bar shaped you could say and it feels a lot better in hand.
But design aside, the core of the device has improved all around, way better camera, way better screen, faster processor, better battery, and plenty plenty more. It is what it is, it's an upgrade, every new phone isn't going to be completely different and etc. I love my S4 and don't regret getting it one bit. As development here on XDA as well as apps that fully utilize the power of this device come out, the upgrade will become more and more visible.
Just a BTW, what I did was sell my S3 on craigslist for 350, (I kept all the original boxing, pamphlets, headphones, etc and the phone was in mint condition as I had thrown on a dope screen protector and case on day 1) so I was able to sell it for a good price, I actually sold it to a developer that works for some mobile development company so it was pretty cool haha. But yeah, then I just used one of my family members upgrades since they could care less about their phone and switched over the device to my line. :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:
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I always save the box, paperwork, and accessories. Never touch any of the accessories. Figure the more something looks like new, the more you'll get for it. And my Note 2 went for almost $450 on ebay. Good pics also help generate interest.
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Had E4GT.
Upgraded to S3 - Huge improvement. Can't even try to compare.
Upgraded to S4 - Huge improvement.
S3 and S4 may be look alike but there is almost nothing alike inside them.
There are huge improvments and updates on both hardware and software levels.
The list is too long to type it up.
As for service here in Las Vegas.
I'm starting to get more and more 4G signals. Speed is still not to impressive 4.5-7.5 Mb/s but this is a good start.
Apperantly sprint is building his 4G LTE network here and doing it rather fast.
To get a better idea I would suggest to try the phone in store or may be one of your friends has it.
I think ones you get a feel of it you won't think twice to switch.
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I was by the palms today and pulled 20mps down I was super impressed on my s3. I see the 4.2.2 update is coming for us relatively soon too so I don't know I may hang onto the s3 I am still on the fence. Had I not see the complaints thread in here I probably would have already gotten the s4
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I just love how creative people get when doing an upgrade and getting it on the cheap!
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cas8180 said:
I was by the palms today and pulled 20mps down I was super impressed on my s3. I see the 4.2.2 update is coming for us relatively soon too so I don't know I may hang onto the s3 I am still on the fence. Had I not see the complaints thread in here I probably would have already gotten the s4
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My next upgrade is in October.
So it wasn't a brainer for me. If S5 is out by then I'll get one too.
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My next upgrade is in October.
So it wasn't a brainer for me. If S5 is out by then I'll get one too.
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I am trying to follow you through devices agat dating all the way back to the s2 but you keep moving too damn fast!!
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cas8180 said:
I am trying to follow you through devices agat dating all the way back to the s2 but you keep moving too damn fast!!
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I have 4 lines family plan with 6 months staggered upgrades available.
I take most updates since my kids and my wife are using some of my stuff.
So they don't mind to follow me half year later....

Trading their nexus by DEC.

So many phones looking forward too.
1. HTC ONE MAXX/T6
2. NOTE 3
3. MOTO X PHONE.
4. A possibly revamped s4 with a snapdragon 800
5. HTC ONE AND S4 Google edition.
Just wondering who is trading their nexus 4 for what phone and for what purposes?
Just curious
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bodom_hc said:
So many phones looking forward too.
1. HTC ONE MAXX/T6
2. NOTE 3
3. MOTO X PHONE.
4. A possibly revamped s4 with a snapdragon 800
5. HTC ONE AND S4 Google edition.
Just wondering who is trading their nexus 4 for what phone and for what purposes?
Just curious
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I ain't trading shizz!!! I just bought this phone 4 months ago, and I did so with the intention of using it until it's a dinosaur (EOL), or Google signs Sony to make a Nexus...whichever comes first
i wanna trade but idk i love this phone so much
Getting the next Nexus. Hopefully made by HTC or Sony.
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Don't think the Nexus 4 has enough trade value to do a one for one trade for the phones you mentioned.
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i wanna trade but idk i love this phone so much
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I know, I love it too....that's why the only thing that'll make me get a new one before N4's EOL is a Sony Nexus. I absolutely love their hardware! I'm actually kind of impressed that LG did as well with this one, too...I've never exactly been a fan of anything LG makes, but man do I love this phone
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Don't think the Nexus 4 has enough trade value to do a one for one trade for the phones you mentioned.
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i know not a direct trade and no one would trade those phones for a nexus 4
but i meant trade as in sell/ trade w/cash , etc.
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I know, I love it too....that's why the only thing that'll make me get a new one before N4's EOL is a Sony Nexus. I absolutely love their hardware! I'm actually kind of impressed that LG did as well with this one, too...I've never exactly been a fan of anything LG makes, but man do I love this phone
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yea i was a bit iffy about LG making this at first, but im very impressed with it.
And yea sony nexus would be nice
and most phones now pretty much have all same hardware (as far as flagship devices) sony makes some sexy looking devices
only thing i wish is the nexus had a 5 inch display :/
I will never buy another phone that isn't in the Nexus line as long as Nexus is being made. I came from the iPhone 4 to the Nexus 4 with zero experience in any Nexus device, or even Android in general, and I can tell you that pure Android is the best Android. I have a bunch of friends who hate Android solely because they bought a low-end phone that was running an outdated version of Android and had low specs.
"Yeah, but you should buy those Google Edition phones! They're so good and still show off pure Android!"
Yes, but at the same time, no. It's what AOSP 'should' look like, but it isn't truly AOSP. The OEMs still have to input their proprietary drivers/kernels to make it compatible with that hardware, so it's still customized. Android is developed for the latest Nexus device, and Nexus is made to show off the latest Android. I will sincerely buy every Nexus device that will ever be made because it is so open (and cheap). The freedom granted to OEMs, or end-users, is ridiculous. One line of code to unlock the bootloader? For real? Why WOULDN'T you buy Nexus? Come on.
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I will never buy another phone that isn't in the Nexus line as long as Nexus is being made. I came from the iPhone 4 to the Nexus 4 with zero experience in any Nexus device, or even Android in general, and I can tell you that pure Android is the best Android. I have a bunch of friends who hate Android solely because they bought a low-end phone that was running an outdated version of Android and had low specs.
"Yeah, but you should buy those Google Edition phones! They're so good and still show off pure Android!"
Yes, but at the same time, no. It's what AOSP 'should' look like, but it isn't truly AOSP. The OEMs still have to input their proprietary drivers/kernels to make it compatible with that hardware, so it's still customized. Android is developed for the latest Nexus device, and Nexus is made to show off the latest Android. I will sincerely buy every Nexus device that will ever be made because it is so open (and cheap). The freedom granted to OEMs, or end-users, is ridiculous. One line of code to unlock the bootloader? For real? Why WOULDN'T you buy Nexus? Come on.
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Historically, not all nexii are as cheap as the N4. Just ask galaxy nexus, nexus s, nexus one and google one owners who bought devices from play. They paid an arm for their devices!! I love google's new subsidized price strategy, but it's just that....new I hope they keep it up, though, because I whole-heartedly agree with you!! I'll buy every nexus released as long as they are affordable in their prices.
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Historically, not all nexii are as cheap as the N4. Just ask galaxy nexus, nexus s, nexus one and google one owners who bought devices from play. They paid an arm for their devices!! I love google's new subsidized price strategy, but it's just that....new I hope they keep it up, though, because I whole-heartedly agree with you!! I'll buy every nexus released as long as they are affordable in their prices.
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I don't own a N4, but I do hope they keep the same price range as I will be buying a nexus for my next device come January. Hopefully there will be a N5 at that time with the same price I will jump all over that.
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Bought my wife the Galaxy S4 yesterday. I love my nexus too but dang that phone is RETARDED fast. I mean, I didn't really notice any lag in my phone until I played with hers but there is a hint here and there. Even with my animations and so forth turned to .5x
I could flash Cyanogenmod and be good to go. I mean I had the EOL idea too but now I'm rethinking it. And to think what goodies may come in the fall. The Galaxy S4 LTE-A with a 2.3ghz processor.... REALLY.? Omg.. I dunno we will see I guess. I do love my phone but it's hard to resist hardware like that.
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Bought my wife the Galaxy S4 yesterday. I love my nexus too but dang that phone is RETARDED fast. I mean, I didn't really notice any lag in my phone until I played with hers but there is a hint here and there. Even with my animations and so forth turned to .5x
I could flash Cyanogenmod and be good to go. I mean I had the EOL idea too but now I'm rethinking it. And to think what goodies may come in the fall. The Galaxy S4 LTE-A with a 2.3ghz processor.... REALLY.? Omg.. I dunno we will see I guess. I do love my phone but it's hard to resist hardware like that.
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For me at least I know I want the nexus cuz I don't want to pay for all the extra stuff that I won't use like waiving my hand around like a monkey to use my phone. Anyways if I were to get a s4 and use cm10.1 on it what's the point of spending twice the amount of a nexus for when I can have a better version of cm10.1
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Staying with the N4 till the N5 arrives...
Another vote for keeping the N4 until the next Nexus.
Thanks may be an option too. I'm excited to see what the future of Google and Motorola may be also.. I think the point of putting Cyanogenmod on Galaxy S4 would be the better specs of the S4.
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Why isn't the iPhone 5S on this list?!
....jk
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Why isn't the iPhone 5S on this list?!
....jk
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Well.... If I could get cyanogenmod on the 5S then.......
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In my opinion the n4 is the best phone available especially since it will get official/unofficial updates for 3-5 years or so,
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Well it seems that the S4 and the HTCone are not going to get their updates at the same time as us Nexus owners, Google says
On background, we will be working very closely with Samsung and HTC on future software updates for these devices and they will receive software updates shortly after a new version is released.
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This makes it one more reason why I will stay with a true Google device.
Source: http://goo.gl/2hm5t

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