Im surprised that no phones released this year have usb 3.0 , you can really feel a difference (if you have a computer that supports it of course) , xperia z also has usb 2.0
Phones now are way too expensive and OEMs are already trying their best leveling the features and have reasonable priced devices. Assembling all the latest techs on their flagship device would just end up having an very2x expensive device.
Would you pay for a phone which is more than $1000+ price for a pimped up specs?
Also the internal storage and sd cards on phone would not even come close to reaching the max transfer rates of usb 3.0 so it would be just as pointless.
im0rtalz said:
Also the internal storage and sd cards on phone would not even come close to reaching the max transfer rates of usb 3.0 so it would be just as pointless.
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your reasoning is incredibly ... point is that USB 2.0 transfer rates are too low for file sizes we are transferring now. WE NEED USB 3.0 more than we need 400ppi+ displays, 2gb of ram or quad core processors
danij3l said:
your reasoning is incredibly ... point is that USB 2.0 transfer rates are to low for file sizes we are transferring now. WE NEED USB 3.0 more than we need 400ppi+ displays, 2gb of ram or quad core processors
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So don't buy a phone with 2gb ram, quad core processor and 400ppi... and wait for one that features USB 3.0 if that's how you feel?
It's obvious that the MAJORITY of people are happy with USB 2.0 for the kind of stuff you put on a mobile phone... let's not forget, you load some music, maybe a movie? Your hardly using this to back up your life.
danij3l said:
your reasoning is incredibly ... point is that USB 2.0 transfer rates are to low for file sizes we are transferring now. WE NEED USB 3.0 more than we need 400ppi+ displays, 2gb of ram or quad core processors
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We also need holographic screens and the Star Trek computer. Whats your point? 1080p screens, RAM and processors are technologies that are available and affordable for mass production. NAND chips that could saturate USB 3.0 are not
Chad_Petree said:
Im surprised that no phones released this year have usb 3.0 , you can really feel a difference (if you have a computer that supports it of course) , xperia z also has usb 2.0
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Because the mainstream ARM chipsets do not support USB 3.0 yet.
Diamondback said:
Because the mainstream ARM chipsets do not support USB 3.0 yet.
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Yep, I believe that the only reason or at least the main reason for why we don't have USB3.0 in phones and tablets yet is because current chipsets that get put in these devices simply don't support it.
But this will change very soon as Tegra 4 does support USB3 and so I am assuming that any future device that will come out powered by Tegra 3 will have USB3, and everyone else will try to catch up after that...
Jubei1 said:
We also need holographic screens and the Star Trek computer. Whats your point? 1080p screens, RAM and processors are technologies that are available and affordable for mass production. NAND chips that could saturate USB 3.0 are not
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why do you think NAND bandwidth has to be equal to bandwidth of USB 3.0 for it to make sense? point is that USB 2.0 in real world get's us a around 30 MB/s mark while we could get let's say a 60MB/s with USB 3.0 and cut in half transfer time of large files. (from 5-6 min for 10GB using USB 2 to 2-3 min using USB 3). Isn't that enough to justify it?
kalo88 said:
So don't buy a phone with 2gb ram, quad core processor and 400ppi... and wait for one that features USB 3.0 if that's how you feel?
It's obvious that the MAJORITY of people are happy with USB 2.0 for the kind of stuff you put on a mobile phone... let's not forget, you load some music, maybe a movie? Your hardly using this to back up your life.
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point is that we are using same old tech that we used to "fill up" (or download from) a phone with 8 GB of memory and phone memory capacity has been bumped to 32GB+.
You won't find your answer here obviously, this is built by HTC so go whine to them
Useless thread is useless
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danij3l said:
why do you think NAND bandwidth has to be equal to bandwidth of USB 3.0 for it to make sense? point is that USB 2.0 in real world get's us a around 30 MB/s mark while we could get let's say a 60MB/s with USB 3.0 and cut in half transfer time of large files. (from 5-6 min for 10GB using USB 2 to 2-3 min using USB 3). Isn't that enough to justify it?
point is that we are using same old tech that we used to "fill up" (or download from) a phone with 8 GB of memory and phone memory capacity has been bumped to 32GB+.
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Like how fast do you even get with a class 10 microSDXC? 6-8mb maybe? Way far from the 30MB/s speed capacity. I'd say you need at least a class 40 microSDXC card for you to require a USB 3.0 thing is the bottleneck of current phone storage right now is not the connector technology but the storage speed itself.
Riyal said:
Like how fast do you even get with a class 10 microSDXC? 6-8mb maybe? Way far from the 30MB/s speed capacity. I'd say you need at least a class 40 microSDXC card for you to require a USB 3.0 thing is the bottleneck of current phone storage right now is not the connector technology but the storage speed itself.
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http://www.sandisk.com/products/memory-cards/microsd/extremepro-uhs-i/?capacity=16GB#Specifications
Performance/speed: Up to 95 MB/s (633X) read speed; write speed up to 90 MB/s (600X)
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http://www.sandisk.com/products/memory-cards/microsd/extremepro-uhs-i/?capacity=16GB#Specifications
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I know that in fact I am using a 64GB version of that.
look here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=38653997&postcount=47
But look at it's transfer speed.
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Which means that speed is only working if the microSDXC is formatted in exfat and you are using a UHS compatible adapter.
It's slower than the extreme pro version but it should reach 30mb/s
http://www.sandisk.com/products/memory-cards/microsd/ultra-class10-for-android/?capacity=64GB
To attach an external SATA 3.0 SSD
im0rtalz said:
Also the internal storage and sd cards on phone would not even come close to reaching the max transfer rates of usb 3.0 so it would be just as pointless.
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USB 3.0 would be useful to attach an external SATA 3.0 SSD/ dock.
The majority of the people don't have USB 3.0 yet. So I doubt any OEM is in a hurry to add that feature just so that a handful of people could actually use it.
I'd say maybe 2 more generations before we see that on a phone. Just a guess
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Riyal said:
I know that in fact I am using a 64GB version of that.
look here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=38653997&postcount=47
But look at it's transfer speed.
Which means that speed is only working if the microSDXC is formatted in exfat and you are using a UHS compatible adapter.
It's slower than the extreme pro version but it should reach 30mb/s
http://www.sandisk.com/products/memory-cards/microsd/ultra-class10-for-android/?capacity=64GB
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you are using:
i'm reffering to:
and this is what that card can do:
point about flash memory not being fast enough is not valid.
this discussion is pointless - everyone is acting like apple fanboys - tech exists they are choosing not to use it
P.S. screenshots taken from: http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1972/1/
danij3l said:
you are using:
i'm reffering to:
and this is what that card can do:
point about flash memory not being fast enough is not valid.
this discussion is pointless - everyone is acting like apple fanboys - tech exists they are choosing not to use it
P.S. screenshots taken from: http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1972/1/
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I know that. But my point is Ultra version has the capacity to reach upto 30mb/s whereas extreme pro has 90mb/s but as you can see the data transfer is only capped at 4mb/s to 5mb/s.
Please do some research first with UHS technology before contradicting comments please. I have solid proof yet yours only are based on screenshots.
BTW I could reach transfer speed of up to 28mb/s with the same card if I format it into exfat filesystem and connect it directly to a USB 2.0 port. Like I said the limit is not the connector technology but the filesystem itself and card technology itself.
If that's how you look at things then feel free to call all the phone owners in the world apple fanboys cause everyone having a high end phone is only using USB2.0 technology. Go post on android general section so alot more expert users could enlighten you.
And if you still insist go buy one yourself and connect it on your android phone then try to reach the limitation of USB 2.0 with your extreme pro card.
Anyways believe on what you think is correct. It's too futile to explain very advanced explanations on a average user. Just try it to believe it :good:
And ohh... Just so you could do a comparison. Here's the same benchmark of the Ultra version.
As you can see it's on 30mb+ and not 4mb-5mb like the one I posted.
Chad_Petree said:
Im surprised that no phones released this year have usb 3.0 , you can really feel a difference (if you have a computer that supports it of course) , xperia z also has usb 2.0
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i want usb3.0 too!!
It would appear from some reports (based on an OEM marketing release from Samsung) that the Exyenos 5 Dual SoC will support USB 3 ... however this only refers to the Exyenos 5 Dual ... NOT the Exyenos Octa.
As for the USB people themselves ... http://www.phonearena.com/news/USB-...ging-transfer-speeds-of-up-to-800Mbps_id25569 raises hopes and then throttles expectations in one small article.
I think I'm going to wait until everyone offers the same hardware configuration before I rush out looking for something I'm very unlikely ever to need or use. After all, they're all (Exyenos, Snapdragon, Tegra, etc) based on ARM Cores and Nvidia and Qualcomm are already there. Thee Tegra 4 and the Snapdragon 800 are both capable of USB 3 support so the next Generation HTC will certainly have the processing power to do it ... whether they choose to implement it will, as always, be a market driven decision.
References :
http://www.qualcomm.com/media/relea...neration-snapdragon-premium-mobile-processors
http://www.pcper.com/news/General-Tech/CES-2013-NVIDIA-Officially-Releases-Tegra-4-SoC
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What does this mean for us? Possible that we only have 384 megs of ram?
and this is a dev issue how? it belongs in the Q&A section.
Since a lot of people here are trying to figure out how to free up ram up to the 512 limit ( or even close to it) it could belong here.
This has been discussed at length how much ram ourphones have. Posting a picture of a vzw ad does not helped dev's do anything with freeing up our ram.
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Hmm, just checked gsmarena and there is nothing on the ram of the fascinate, so this might just be true. O.O On gsmarena, it shows as all the other galaxy s phones with 512 mb of ram.
if it is, that kinda sucks, even though you get camera flash, i would gladly take the extra 130mb~ or so of ram :/
Can I just make a quick point here without stepping on anyone's feet?
When you buy a computer advertised to have 4gb of ram, do you actually get to use all 4gb of that ram? No. Your computer takes some of it and divides it up for other purposes. Some is strictly for the OS, some goes and get dedicated to your GPU, and the rest you get to use. The story is the same for our phones. There is a 512mb chip in there for ram. You will only get to use ~380mb of it.
Same for a hard drive. As I've said once before...
Miztaken1312 said:
Sure you buy a 1TB hard drive, but you actually only get to use around 850GB of it due to formatting and whatnot.
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It's all there, you just won't ever get to use it all for yourself.
miztaken1312 said:
Can I just make a quick point here without stepping on anyone's feet?
When you buy a computer advertised to have 4gb of ram, do you actually get to use all 4gb of that ram? No. Your computer takes some of it and divides it up for other purposes. Some is strictly for the OS, some goes and get dedicated to your GPU, and the rest you get to use. The story is the same for our phones. There is a 512mb chip in there for ram. You will only get to use ~380mb of it.
Same for a hard drive. As I've said once before...
It's all there, you just won't ever get to use it all for yourself.
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That is cuz how microsoft's file system, NTFS, which counts 1024 kb = 1 mb. That is why it is off. This has nothing to do with NTFS. This is most likely that the ram isnt there. If what you said is the case, that would mean all of the galaxy s phones would be advertised as 304 mb, cuz that is all the is usable at stock.
And your hard drive comparison, thats because for 1 TB to show up in windows, it would have to be 1024 GB instead of the normal 1000 GB just because NTFS has a different way of counting bytes.
miztaken1312 said:
Can I just make a quick point here without stepping on anyone's feet?
When you buy a computer advertised to have 4gb of ram, do you actually get to use all 4gb of that ram? No. Your computer takes some of it and divides it up for other purposes. Some is strictly for the OS, some goes and get dedicated to your GPU, and the rest you get to use. The story is the same for our phones. There is a 512mb chip in there for ram. You will only get to use ~380mb of it.
Same for a hard drive. As I've said once before...
It's all there, you just won't ever get to use it all for yourself.
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No, that is a really terrible analogy. You buy a 1TB hard drive. You get 1TB, counted in decimal. Just because you don't comprehend the difference between binary and decimal doesn't mean you're suddenly losing space. IT IS THE SAME AMOUNT OF SPACE.
Pretend I point to a can of paint and say it is navy blue. Some other guy comes along and says it is actually 000080 in RGB Hex value. You return your can of pain to the store and yell at the manager that you didn't get navy blue.
That's pretty much what you're saying about hard drives. You are not losing anything at all. Period. End of discussion. A computer simply interprets bits in a different numbering system than what we are used to (binary vs. decimal). There is no magic. There is no loss.
Likewise, your 4GB of RAM analogy is also incredibly flawed. When I buy 4GB of RAM, do I get 4GB? Yes, absolutely. There is exactly 4096KB of RAM there. I can have it sitting on my desk and there is 4GB there. I can install it in my machine and there is 4GB there. What it is used for is irrelevant. It is still 4GB that I paid for. I know that for a fact.
For our phones, we do not know for sure that there is exactly 512MB of RAM and, even if we did, we do not know if there is exactly 208MB of RAM being used for system processes or dedicated to the GPU. It could just be reserved for absolutely no purpose or it could not exist at all (after all, 208MB of RAM is an absurdly large amount of RAM to use for the system when we're still using EVEN MORE for android processes we can clearly see in any decent task manager). You don't know and neither do I.
It has nothing to do with the NTFS file system. It has to do with how the OS counts (megabyte vs mebibyte - base 10 vs base 2).
In regards to RAM, PC manufacturers do state if the GPU is using shared memory. Other than a non-discrete GPU, RAM in a computer isn't typically statically reserved.
The Galaxy S has never had 384~ MB available to the user. The most that can be squeezed out at present, and still have a fully functional phone, is 340~ MB.
So perhaps a developer has more to say about this... since they DEVELOP? It is awful lot of RAM to be used for unknown stuff
Eh, he still has a point. There's 512 there, just some of it is used for the system. I forgive Samsung for this since all android phones (heck, all OS's) suffer this phenomena.
I read somewhere that Samsung chose to statically allocate it rather than dynamically, just to really increase stability. So the cappy may be worse but still you always see this in some form
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Then why Galaxy Tab shows 444 of available RAM?
Because that's a tablet?
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The specs of the Galaxy S and Galaxy Tab are the same, apart from the screen resolution.. Even the Quadrant scores are the same.
DirtySoul said:
The specs of the Galaxy S and Galaxy Tab are the same, apart from the screen resolution.. Even the Quadrant scores are the same.
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You just said the RAM was different.
Anyways, that doesn't change my point that some RAM is always taken by the system OS. Android is a little unique in that each hardware distributor is allowed to tweak the OS so the level of system RAM reserved changes but its still there always
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fatttire said:
You just said the RAM was different.
Anyways, that doesn't change my point that some RAM is always taken by the system OS. Android is a little unique in that each hardware distributor is allowed to tweak the OS so the level of system RAM reserved changes but its still there always
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They said the amount of *AVAILABLE* RAM shows differently. Insinuating that when two pieces of hardware that are identical show different amounts of available RAM (available, not physically present) that there is something else going on that we the user aren't aware of.
Unknowns like this lead to people asking questions. People asking questions lead to answers. Answers lead to optimizations by brilliant XDA developers. Brilliant XDA developers making optimizations lead to terribly happy users like myself.
So it's in the interest of everyone posting in these forums to ask questions and try to come up with possible answers besides "No".
Yes, we know OSes use RAM and allocates it to various things. I think the issue as stated by others already is that we don't know how MUCH RAM is being used by the OS in our case.
If one device says we have 340 MB RAM available, and another almost identical device says 444 MB RAM available then that means it's POSSIBLE that our brilliant XDA developers could discover how to free up another 100 MB RAM to do fascinating things with.
It's NOT possible for them to discover that if people asking questions and helpful suggestions are shut down by negative people simply stating "NO".
https://github.com/cmsgs/android_device_samsung_galaxys/blob/master/config
you can go here and check out the reserved memory allocation. See line 766 and 1394 under "reserved memory config." the reserved mem adds up to approx. 140 mb. give or take a few. That would put us pretty close to 512. Some of that can be freed up as has been done on the i9000 forum. They have successfully freed up 40-50 mb to be used as free ram, although freeing up too much from certain locations can have negative results such as hindering 720p playback. See speedmod froyo in the i9000 forum for details. [KERNEL] SpeedMod Froyo 340MB RAM Optimized + Sharpness fix by Hardcore. I also think sztupy, developer of z4mod (I believe) had something to do with it.
Just a matter of time and hopefully we will have the same.
I know they're both advertised as having 512MB, but the Tab has more physical RAM than the phone. You can find a post somewhere in the forum talking about the memory chip configuration. The Tab has 128MB more than the phone. That's the primary reason the Tab has so much more available memory.
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That is cuz how microsoft's file system, NTFS, which counts 1024 kb = 1 mb. That is why it is off. This has nothing to do with NTFS. This is most likely that the ram isnt there. If what you said is the case, that would mean all of the galaxy s phones would be advertised as 304 mb, cuz that is all the is usable at stock.
And your hard drive comparison, thats because for 1 TB to show up in windows, it would have to be 1024 GB instead of the normal 1000 GB just because NTFS has a different way of counting bytes.
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I just had to chime in - to satisfy the MS/HDD argument, an even better analogy: You purchase a Dell computer that is advertised to have a 500gb HDD. It arrives at your door only for you to find that (GASP!) the Windows install took 10gb, leaving you with only 490gb.
I believe that most if not all mobile handset manufacturers do this to some extemt. My Droid Incredible had 16gb of onboard storage advertised. They didn't mention that 4gb of that was reserved for the actual Android OS. It honestly never crossed my mind to feel swindled - it's just how it is.
That being said, I grow tired of this thread popping up as bumped when I check the Dev Forums for updates. While this discussion certainly has merit, it's nothing new to developers, nor does it have merit for them in particular.
Mods, can we get this thread locked or moved?
Z4mod is from Z4ziggy
tiger4j said:
https://github.com/cmsgs/android_device_samsung_galaxys/blob/master/config
you can go here and check out the reserved memory allocation. See line 766 and 1394 under "reserved memory config." the reserved mem adds up to approx. 140 mb. give or take a few. That would put us pretty close to 512. Some of that can be freed up as has been done on the i9000 forum. They have successfully freed up 40-50 mb to be used as free ram, although freeing up too much from certain locations can have negative results such as hindering 720p playback. See speedmod froyo in the i9000 forum for details. [KERNEL] SpeedMod Froyo 340MB RAM Optimized + Sharpness fix by Hardcore. I also think sztupy, developer of z4mod (I believe) had something to do with it.
Just a matter of time and hopefully we will have the same.
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Hey everyone,
I got my first laptop about 6 months back and in comparison to it my desktop just feels slow! My Desire HD even feels quicker! I have about £300 pounds to spend on an upgrade but I am not sure how to have the biggest effect on my system. At the moment I have...
Intel Core2 Duo 6600
Asus P5W-DH Deluxe
GeForce 9800 GTX+
2x 1GB OCZ PC-2 6400 Platinum
Western Digital Raptor 74GB (OS)
2x Samsung F1, 1Tb in Raid 1 (Main)
Enermax Liberty 500W
I use this machine for the normal office and web activities, as an FTP server to serve my media to laptop and phone, and occasional video encoding. I have two ideas about what to upgrade...
1) Swap my raptor for a SSD and chuck in a new Core 2, Quad Core CPU
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...14&subcat=1427
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...d=6&subcat=567
2) Make the move to i5 (Mobo, CPU and Memory) and sacrifice getting a SSD
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...id=339&subcat=
I guess it all comes down to how good the SSD is? Anyways, I just wanted your opinions?
Thanks
Ed
32gb corsair/ocz ssd and 2-4gb extra ram , maybe a q6600 (they go for dirt cheap and oc nicely)
this should be about 200-220 pounds , any money spent higher than that this on an upgrade is unreasonable
also with ssd , as long as its a brand the newer the better , make sure ur not gettin some 1-2 yr old leftover from stock
My primary drive with my OS on is currently 74 GB. This is the perfect size for me as it's always got 60 - 70 GB of data on. If I get a SSD I would probably want it to be a similar size. 32 GB just seems too small. Maybe something like this...
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HD-059-OC&groupid=701&catid=14&subcat=910
Also with the new Intel G3 and new Sandforce controllers coming out I figured current generation SSD's will drop a bit in price. I'm keeping my fingers crossed!
It's interesting you suggested memory. For some stupid reason it didn't come to mind that I am just scraping Windows 7's minimum requirements. I guess its things like that which make me always ask on forums first! A fresh 4 GB ram would probably help a lot more than an upgraded CPU. I was looking at something like this...
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MY-026-KS&groupid=701&catid=8&subcat=813
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MY-096-GL&groupid=701&catid=8&subcat=813
Geil has better timings but I have heard good things about Kingston HyperX...
This CPU and memory comes in at under £200 well below my budget and will probs make the world of difference! All the feedback I can get is appreciated!
Former lead tech at Asus phone technical support says this:
MOBO: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128441
CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103894
RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226103 (x2)
Sound Card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16829102034
Video Card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102915
SSD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227551
you dont need a sound card nowdays for the typical user ... and he isnt a gamer so i guess he doesnt need a better gfx , gtx+ is fairly decent , around a 4870 or 4890 , should be able to play crysis 2 on hardcore setting
also there decent enuff 775 cpu's to make the jump to am3 or intel i series unreasoned
and coming from a 3.5gb ddr1 400 config to a 2gb , later 6gb ddr3 1600 config i can tell the speed of the ram is hardly noticable , the trouble starts when it runs out
souljaboy said:
you dont need a sound card nowdays for the typical user ... and he isnt a gamer so i guess he doesnt need a better gfx , gtx+ is fairly decent , around a 4870 or 4890 , should be able to play crysis 2 on hardcore setting
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Very true! Also with the price of that recommended mobo, CPU and RAM in the UK I could get for a similar amount the core i5 option I found which is probably better...
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...id=339&subcat=
Instead I like the sound of the cheaper option (SSD and RAM). That would probably fit my demands, and if not I can make another upgrade and carry across the SSD.
Has anyone got a convincing argument to not go for a SSD and 4Gb RAM?
keep the 2gb , and ull have 6 .
Can I do that? Would you put the new memory sticks in A1 and B1, and the old sticks in A2 and B2. That way the total in channel A would equal the total in channel B?
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new rams go in orange old in black and you should be gettin dual channel ... ull need a 64bit os tho
any of the new sandybridge cpu's are nice. I upgraded from an e6600 at the beginning of the year (new mobo and mem, kept hdd and everything else) and the upgrade was night/day.
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any of the new sandybridge cpu's are nice. I upgraded from an e6600 at the beginning of the year (new mobo and mem, kept hdd and everything else) and the upgrade was night/day.
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ive done the same from amd single core 1800mhz to quad core 3400mhz and on my day to day tasks(other than games) i find myself waiting for my slow hdd as i did with the old comp ... ssd would be the first thing i get ... but im always busy changing phones
Haven't really tried SSDs yet... I have way too much stuff to use an SDD effectively. I'd suggest that you go for upgrades that'll stay for a while, like going for a REALLY good processor, mobo and RAM combo and then start thinking about upgrading the other stuff.
souljaboy said:
ive done the same from amd single core 1800mhz to quad core 3400mhz and on my day to day tasks(other than games) i find myself waiting for my slow hdd as i did with the old comp ... ssd would be the first thing i get ... but im always busy changing phones
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I was worried the same thing would happen to me. Everyone I have spoken to who made the jump to a SSD has been amazed.
sakai4eva said:
Haven't really tried SSDs yet... I have way too much stuff to use an SDD effectively. I'd suggest that you go for upgrades that'll stay for a while, like going for a REALLY good processor, mobo and RAM combo and then start thinking about upgrading the other stuff.
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I have 2TB of media but my plan is to put OS on SSD and media on other drives. That setup should use SSD effectively. I agree completely with the rest of your post. I would love a nice new 'REALLY' good SandyBridge CPU, Mobo and RAM but that will blow my budget apart. By getting a good SSD it will stay for a while and be transferable from any system to any system too.
If I am unhappy with SSD choice I can always save again and make the move to SandyBridge at a later date.
I want so steer the whole conversation in a new direction now...
What SSD would people recommend?
Im struggling with my SSD choice. I know good solid options are the Intel X-25M and the OCZ Revodrive. I can get both of these in 80Gb options for about £170.
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HD-004-IN&groupid=701&catid=14&subcat=910
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HD-057-OC&groupid=701&catid=14&subcat=910
I know that for the same price I can get the new Intel SSD's in a 120GB variant but reviews suggest that the Intel X-25M and the OCZ Revodrive both beat the new Intel. As my aim is performance and as i dont need that extra space on my primary drive i have ruled it out.
The question is should I future proof my buy by stretching my budget to an OCZ Vertex 3.
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HD-071-OC&groupid=701&catid=14&subcat=1427
What do you all think?
Neither Get your budget to £220 then get an intel 510 120GB
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HD-009-IN
Just look at those speeds (450 read, 250 write) + You get a free game... Also I notice you linked to overclockers.co.uk too.... Do you have an account on their forums?
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Neither Get your budget to £220 then get an intel 510 120GB
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HD-009-IN
Just look at those speeds (450 read, 250 write) + You get a free game... Also I notice you linked to overclockers.co.uk too.... Do you have an account on their forums?
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They weren't even up on the site when I looked! I thought they were going to be way more money than that but at that price i'm sold. Also made my mind up on RAM...
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MY-190-CS&tool=3
Both of these should have my PC feeling like a different machine!
I only overclockers forums last week and I haven't posted there yet. Cant comment on whether they have a good community is that's what you were wondering
To get advice on this upgrade I only posted here and on PCstats. I still havent heard anything on PCstats. I thought XDA would be pretty poor as its for mobile devices but the responses have been pretty good.
Thanks everyone!!
get a modded os for perf ;-) like modded roms
edcoppen said:
They weren't even up on the site when I looked! I thought they were going to be way more money than that but at that price i'm sold. Also made my mind up on RAM...
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MY-190-CS&tool=3
Both of these should have my PC feeling like a different machine!
I only overclockers forums last week and I haven't posted there yet. Cant comment on whether they have a good community is that's what you were wondering
To get advice on this upgrade I only posted here and on PCstats. I still havent heard anything on PCstats. I thought XDA would be pretty poor as its for mobile devices but the responses have been pretty good.
Thanks everyone!!
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Haha Aweome although... Is your motherboard DDR3 or 2 compatible? If it's DDR3 don't get that, it wontwotk haha, plus... Check amazon too... Last week I got 8GB DDR3 1333mhz for £65
haha naa... I signed up like last week too they're okay, helped me out on some stuff
Also xda is full of nerds and stuff so yeah... Your very likley r to get a response here
Hi all.
My onboard storage for the note 2 is filling up fast.
I need an SD card.
I have done 7a bit of research.
Now it's all getting very complicated.
What I think I am looking for is
64gb sdxc
Class 10
But 4k write speed of 1.5mb
Apparently most class 10 have slow 4k write speed. 4k writespeed is used for many features with the faster non 4k writespeed reserved for intensive files.
I have tried to talk downv the above to no avail.
Is anyone able to help me find a card that complies with all three of the above requirements?
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Hi all.
My onboard storage for the note 2 is filling up fast.
I need an SD card.
I have done 7a bit of research.
Now it's all getting very complicated.
What I think I am looking for is
64gb sdxc
Class 10
But 4k write speed of 1.5mb
Apparently most class 10 have slow 4k write speed. 4k writespeed is used for many features with the faster non 4k writespeed reserved for intensive files.
I have tried to talk downv the above to no avail.
Is anyone able to help me find a card that complies with all three of the above requirements?
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If you want a 64gb micro sdxc card, your only choice is sandisk
sotodefonk said:
If you want a 64gb micro sdxc card, your only choice is sandisk
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Thanks.
What is the writing speed on the 4k element.
Ive read that it can be as low as 0.01mb/sec for class 10 chips.
MSK1 said:
Thanks.
What is the writing speed on the 4k element.
Ive read that it can be as low as 0.01mb/sec for class 10 chips.
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I dont have one, I say its your only option because its the only one with a reputable name.
You can see crystalmark benchmarks in amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-media/permalink/mo30F5R2E152MJZ/B009QZH6JS/ref=cm_ciu_images_pl_link
The write speed for 4k is between 1.4 MB/s and 1.7 MB/s depends on the reader, although there is one guy who got .5 MB/s in an asus card reader.
Some people uploaded screenshots for the wrong card, check if the benchmark its made on the 64GB micro sdxc card to be sure if its what you want
sotodefonk said:
I dont have one, I say its your only option because its the only one with a reputable name.
You can see crystalmark benchmarks in amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-m...2E152MJZ/B009QZH6JS/ref=cm_ciu_images_pl_link
The write speed for 4k is between 1.4 MB/s and 1.7 MB/s depends on the reader, although there is one guy who got .5 MB/s in an asus card reader.
Some people uploaded screenshots for the wrong card, check if the benchmark its made on the 64GB micro sdxc card to be sure if its what you want
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Thanks.
I have done some reading and found the below so thought id share.
Net result is that the sandisk 64 gb ultra card is good.
It's 4k (random) speeds are fast enough.
No difference between ultra and mobile ultra other than age (though some suggest that the mobile ultra is only class6)
It also appears that u can buy ultra from US and mobile ultra from UK.
http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/1582172
http://www.fonearena.com/blog/44593/sandisk-64gb-microsdxc-memory-card-review.html
http://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Mobile...tra-and-Ultra/m-p/289540/highlight/true#M1911
http://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Mobile...tra-and-Ultra/m-p/289540/highlight/true#M1911
forums.sandisk.com/t5/Mobile-memory-professional-cards/Difference-between-Mobile-Ultra-and-Ultra/td-p/281716
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1776601&page=2
May I ask why you need speedy 4k random writes.
For taking vids and pics, class 10s should work really well. You planning on using the drive as a swap partition perhaps?
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finalhit said:
May I ask why you need speedy 4k random writes.
For taking vids and pics, class 10s should work really well. You planning on using the drive as a swap partition perhaps?
swyped all these spelling errors from my galaxy note 2
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I just like to have the latest possible functionality if I am spending the money.
I have heard (I am no expert) that if you are running apps from the SD card then you need the 4k speeds.
My most important issue is that it appears to be unclear when you are buying these cards from Amazon.co.uk whether the cards are class 6 or class 10.
They never specify the "Model code"
E.g
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B005LFT40G/ref=aw_cr_item_title
www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B007JTKM30/ref=aw_d_var_2nd_computers_txt?vs=1
When your writing big files...it finds a spot to them in and writes in sequential blocks ( as much as it can anyway)
When using apps, yup, I guess it would be writing tiny files so your performance might be impacted depending on your configuration. However, games don't really write to disk that often... Maybe when it's saving... but that would hardly affect you ux.
I dunno, I can't really think of a practical scenario when your ux would be impacted by this.
Ambiguous labeling seems to be a separate issue.
The second listing says class 10 (thats 10Mbps sequential write speeds)
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finalhit said:
When your writing big files...it finds a spot to them in and writes in sequential blocks ( as much as it can anyway)
When using apps, yup, I guess it would be writing tiny files so your performance might be impacted depending on your configuration. However, games don't really write to disk that often... Maybe when it's saving... but that would hardly affect you ux.
I dunno, I can't really think of a practical scenario when your ux would be impacted by this.
Ambiguous labeling seems to be a separate issue.
swyped all these spelling errors from my galaxy note 2
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Any idea on how I can ensure I am buying a bona Fide class 10 from Amazon?
That is the 40 euro question. You can't even tell if a card is a genuine sandisk, or actually 64 gb until you get ut. Some sellers are extra devious they trick the cards into reporting they are 64gb capacity, and your computer will say they are 64...but they will only store 4 or 2 gb (the seller rebranded a 2gb). This is specially ytue from ebay purchases.
Typically, personally anyway, I just go with a trusted seller...typically the ones specifically sold by amazon.
(Really love the stock keyboard but it needs autocorrect-on-space ala swiftkey. Going back to SwiftKey Flow beta... No number row though =( )
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finalhit said:
That is the 40 euro question. You can't even tell if a card is a genuine sandisk, or actually 64 gb until you get ut. Some sellers are extra devious they trick the cards into reporting they are 64gb capacity, and your computer will say they are 64...but they will only store 4 or 2 gb (the seller rebranded a 2gb). This is specially ytue from ebay purchases.
Typically, personally anyway, I just go with a trusted seller...typically the ones specifically sold by amazon.
(Really love the stock keyboard but it needs autocorrect-on-space ala swiftkey. Going back to SwiftKey Flow beta... No number row though =( )
swyped all these spelling errors from my galaxy note 2
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l was going to go with swift key too.
But then u can't use the handwriting mode.
If I buy from the US, are they likely to ship'to the UK?
I did a review of the new Samsung 64gb uhs1 cards against the SanDisk ones and they're by far faster.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35447450
AndreiLux said:
I did a review of the new Samsung 64gb uhs1 cards against the SanDisk ones and they're by far faster.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35447450
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Those new ones from Samsung, where i can buy it in USA?
sotodefonk said:
Those new ones from Samsung, where i can buy it in USA?
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They should be available now or in the following weeks if not.
AndreiLux said:
I did a review of the new Samsung 64gb uhs1 cards against the SanDisk ones and they're by far faster.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35447450
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Do u know if these will become available in the UK
* I was told by sandisk customer services that 'mobile ultra' and 'ultra' are the same, it's just marketing
* When you get a card test it with "h2testw_1.4" which will test that it's the size you bought
* Also test with CDM to see if it gives you the speeds you were expecting
tobydjones said:
* I was told by sandisk customer services that 'mobile ultra' and 'ultra' are the same, it's just marketing
* When you get a card test it with "h2testw_1.4" which will test that it's the size you bought
* Also test with CDM to see if it gives you the speeds you were expecting
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That's fits in with what I have read before.
The real problem is trying to distinguish between class 6 and class 10.
It's never stated on the card itself so u can't tell if the seller is misdescribing.
Get the samsung MB-MGCGB
Class 10 (70 MB/sec Read, 20MB/sec Write.
I've had the sandisk and when transferring 4-5 gig movies there's absolutely no comparison... but they're about $100 for the samsung...
sotodefonk said:
If you want a 64gb micro sdxc card, your only choice is sandisk
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yup yup
I have the 64gb SanDisk
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Been meaning to ask this but keep forgetting. If the s4 were an actual full fledged computer, what would be the equivalent for a regular computer? I know it's way more powerful than a 486, but I'm just curious on what it might be. I remember the days when my 800mhz Intel, forgot if Pentium 2 or 3, used to take over 24 hours to encode a movie ripped from a DVD.
oscarthegrouch said:
Been meaning to ask this but keep forgetting. If the s4 were an actual full fledged computer, what would be the equivalent for a regular computer? I know it's way more powerful than a 486, but I'm just curious on what it might be. I remember the days when my 800mhz Intel, forgot if Pentium 2 or 3, used to take over 24 hours to encode a movie ripped from a DVD.
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Maybe the level of a mid-high end PC from 2007?
optimummind said:
Maybe the level of a mid-high end PC from 2007?
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Going by Geekbench, a low end Core 2 duo from July 2006.
http://ark.intel.com/products/27249
Both products get a geekbench score of ~3200. The Core 2 Duo would still be faster in single threaded tasks since it only needs 2 cores to get that score, while the galaxy needs 4 cores.
Very interesting. Thanks for the info.
Chromebook?
I was thinking the other day if it could run Office, a larger monitor, and connect to my scanner and NAS, it could replace my desktop.
But it can't, yet.
What's funny about it is that you'll have 100's of less problems on this phone that a 2006 PC.
thunng8 said:
Going by Geekbench, a low end Core 2 duo from July 2006.
http://ark.intel.com/products/27249
Both products get a geekbench score of ~3200. The Core 2 Duo would still be faster in single threaded tasks since it only needs 2 cores to get that score, while the galaxy needs 4 cores.
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Cool, Thx for digging that up. Have you found any GPU comparisons as well?
I wonder how long it'll take until a smartphone can play games like Tomb Raider or Crysis 3.
optimummind said:
Cool, Thx for digging that up. Have you found any GPU comparisons as well?
I wonder how long it'll take until a smartphone can play games like Tomb Raider or Crysis 3.
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In 4 years, +/- 1.
It's the Mangekyō Sharingan! Quick, only look at his toes!
It's hard to Guage because the architectures are entirely different.
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maxnix said:
Chromebook?
I was thinking the other day if it could run Office, a larger monitor, and connect to my scanner and NAS, it could replace my desktop.
But it can't, yet.
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Anyone attempt hooking up a USB device to see if it can be a USB host? Used for copying/moving files to/from flash drive?
oscarthegrouch said:
Anyone attempt hooking up a USB device to see if it can be a USB host? Used for copying/moving files to/from flash drive?
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I have an OTG cable and a 32 GB tumb drive.
I attached cable with the drive to my phone and it recognized it right away.
So I would say USB host works for flash drives at least.
Haven't try keyboard or mouse. Don't have them..
Cool beans agat. It didn't need an additional 5vdc from a hub to power the device? Thumb drives probably don't need much to get them running but anything more would I'd guess. Yeah man, I'm ripping DVDs on my phone with an external DVD drive and a hub. Lol.
probablly a high end pc from 2005-2006 times, and the processor still competes with some mid-high end processors now
NSS1995 said:
probablly a high end pc from 2005-2006 times, and the processor still competes with some mid-high end processors now
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not quite; these are different types of processors; modern ARM is not comparable to modern x86 RISC processors at all. ARM is best for low power situations, x86 is much better for performance overall.
Keep in mind you are comparing one ARM machine with NAND flash memory 'hard drive' against an x86 with a spinning platter disc; and two totally different instruction sets.
I would like to see what a GS4 running pure linux vs an old Athlon or Core 2 Quad running same Linux at 1.9Ghz with same performing 'hard drive'/memory would do, but ARM is not ready to replace x86. CPU speed isnt everything.
If i had to make a comparison, i would say its closer to my ancient Dell Inspiron 5150 underclocked. Low power mode at 1.7Ghz (hyperthreaded, max 3.06 Ghz), 32bit, 2GB RAM (albeit at 333Mhz), 1600x1200 display, and with a PATA SSD (transcend PSD320), in terms of raw power, but i havent any way to directly test executable vs executable yet. Laptop still runs btw, and i still use it.
agat63 said:
I have an OTG cable and a 32 GB tumb drive.
I attached cable with the drive to my phone and it recognized it right away.
So I would say USB host works for flash drives at least.
Haven't try keyboard or mouse. Don't have them..
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Which cable did you get? I might have to give it a try.
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crawrj said:
Which cable did you get? I might have to give it a try.
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I've got it about 1.5 years ago for my E4GT and still using it.
I remember I paid about 4.99 (free shipping) but don't remember which one.
It looks exactly like this one:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Straight-Mi...Phone_PDA_Cables_Adapters&hash=item3a8146ec28
But I can't guarantee it's the same one tho.
agat63 said:
I've got it about 1.5 years ago for my E4GT and still using it.
I remember I paid about 4.99 (free shipping) but don't remember which one.
It looks exactly like this one:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Straight-Mi...Phone_PDA_Cables_Adapters&hash=item3a8146ec28
But I can't guarantee it's the same one tho.
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Thanks man.
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Sandisk Dual USB Drive (16, 32, and 64 GB)
*edit* - I just ran across a post about this very same device right here on XDA. Somehow while searching i completely missed it until after I posted this. It is a very good review by shhbz, very detailed, check it out here.
*edit#2* - Here are the benchmark results for the Sandisk Dual USB Drive -
Computer side: Read 20.7 MB/s & Write 7.4 MB/s
Phone Side: Read 16.89 MB/s & Write 9.71 MB/s
(These benchmarks were performed using "Gnome Disk Utility" for the computer side and "A1 SD Bench" for the phone side.)
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I'm not sure how many of you are aware of this handy little device but for those of you who are not, here is a little information.
I recently discovered this tiny thumb drive, pen drive, flash drive, whatever you want to call it, at my local Wal-mart while looking for a DVI to HDMI cable. I already own several flash drives, however, the difference between the ones I own already and this one is that I can plug this one directly into my phone. It functions as a flash drive for your phone much the same as it does for your pc, and for LG G2 owners, USB OTG (On The Go) support is already built in so it's basically plug and play.
Now, if your like me, many of you here are flash happy addicts. Well that is where this little drive can come in quite handy. On my drive I have several different ROMs, multiple kernels, nandroid backups and even a few GAPPS packages saved. I also have the stock KK baseband and a flash-able version of LG's camera app. You never know when those files might come in handy and all you have to do is reach in your pocket, pull out this tiny drive and plug it into your phone. Of course you could always just save all that to your phones memory but some of those files can quickly add up, taking up valuable space that you would rather use for other things. This could also prove to be a life saver for those with little internal memory and no sd card slot or while in the middle of that long flight from.......well, i think you get the idea.
If your not on a LG G2 or would like to use this drive on another phone Sandisk has a list of supported devices on their website. Most or many high end phones support USB OTG and there are many apps that help with that as well such as Chainfire's StickMount. Of course you will have to have a rooted phone to use that app. And then there is the official Sandisk app Memory Zone which is available free on the app store. I mention the official app last because personally I don't care for it and it doesn't really suit my needs. But don't get me wrong, it is a great app and it makes transferring files from your phone to the USB drive very easy. I just prefer to use a file explorer to move the files I want.
If you choose to go the route I did and you are using a LG G2 then the USB drive will be located in the root directory under storage/usb/. Also one other tip, when using this or any other USB drive with your phone make sure you un-mount the drive in settings/storage before unplugging it from your phone. You may be able to get away with just pulling it out but the proper way is to un-mount it first and in certain situations you can run into problems if you decide to skip that step. When plugging in the USB drive it should automatically mount itself but if not you can also mount the drive the same way. And if you choose you use the Sandisk app, plugging in the drive to your phone will automatically launch the app.
The Drive comes in three different sizes, 16, 32 and 64 GB ( 2.0 only no 3.0 ) with prices ranging from $19.99 - $49.99.
This drive has been quite convenient for me and so i'm sure it can be just as useful to many of you, that is why i decided to post this. I'm just trying to give a little back to a forum and community that has given so much to me.
For the size its pretty expensive
You can also try one of these http://www.dx.com/p/kingmax-kotgr-0...sd-card-reader-otg-to-usb-reader-black-329494
And using a 64gb sdxc for less. The speeds would also be better because we know sandisk are not the fastest in any sort of storage.
Theres a thread further down discussing them.
But yeah cool device looks nicer than my cheap white one. Can you benchmark it through sd tools andnfive us speeds
i have 32gb sandisk - nice little thing, makes usb otg backups as easy as 123...
read/wrize speeds are good too (it takes around 380sec to backup/restore 3gb)
and it's small
squee666 said:
For the size its pretty expensive
You can also try one of these http://www.dx.com/p/kingmax-kotgr-0...sd-card-reader-otg-to-usb-reader-black-329494
And using a 64gb sdxc for less. The speeds would also be better because we know sandisk are not the fastest in any sort of storage.
Theres a thread further down discussing them.
But yeah cool device looks nicer than my cheap white one. Can you benchmark it through sd tools andnfive us speeds
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Yes the price is a bit steep when compared to other flash drives but it does eliminate the need for a OTG cable which saves $5 to $10 dollars. Even then its still a bit more expensive then a regular flash drive of comparable size. But you are also paying for convenience when you by this drive.
As far as speed go, being 2.0 its not the fastest. Technically it should be capable of speeds around 30 MB/s however most users report speeds closer to between 15 to 20 MB/s. I haven't bench-marked this drive myself yet but will be doing so very soon and will post my results here.
60nine said:
i have 32gb sandisk - nice little thing, makes usb otg backups as easy as 123...
read/wrize speeds are good too (it takes around 380sec to backup/restore 3gb)
and it's small
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Thank you for the input on speed. I hope to post more info regarding read write speeds here in the very near future.
squee666 said:
For the size its pretty expensive
You can also try one of these http://www.dx.com/p/kingmax-kotgr-0...sd-card-reader-otg-to-usb-reader-black-329494
And using a 64gb sdxc for less. The speeds would also be better because we know sandisk are not the fastest in any sort of storage.
Theres a thread further down discussing them.
But yeah cool device looks nicer than my cheap white one. Can you benchmark it through sd tools andnfive us speeds
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I bench-marked this drive and here are my results:
Computer side: Read 20.7 MB/s & Write 7.4 MB/s
Phone Side: Read 16.89 MB/s & Write 9.71 MB/s
I also posted these results in the main post up top.
btw this stick is so user friendly made that it wouldn't bother me even if it had 5mb read/write...
just makes things simpler (especially backups and huge file transfers between pc and phone)
looks like Kingston makes something similar too, seems to be a little cheaper (at least on amazon). not sure if R/W speeds are comparable as i didn't look that far into either. labeled as the "Data Traveler MicroDuo"
i've seen several lookalikes on ebay when i was buying mine but for me the sandisk is no1 choice
Very cool. I like it =)
ı bought microduo 16 gb. ıt is good. but it is heating up while ı use
alimmm78 said:
ı bought microduo 16 gb. ıt is good. but it is heating up while ı use
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Microduo 16gb? Are you talking about the 16GB SanDisk dual sub drive? If so I'm not sure why it would be heating up. Is your phone also hot at the same time? If so the dual usb drive may be acting like a heatsink for your phone. But that is just a guess.
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no. ı have got kingston micro duo . phone is cool. microdou is hot. ı am not recommend micro duo
alimmm78 said:
no. ı have got kingston micro duo . phone is cool. microdou is hot. ı am not recommend micro duo
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i also don't have heat problems with my 32gb sandisk dual usb otg... what i wouldn't mind on that stick is some kind of a led light to indicate it's alive when it's connected
i've noticed the heat only on my transcend regular usb stick when it's connected to any device a bit longer... (this one: http://uk.transcend-info.com/products/images/ModelPic/359/gb_csuJF_spec_JFT3S_110819.jpg )
Meenova seems the best way to go for the G2. I have one and it is a lot smaller than the sandisk, which is what I personally prefer.
http://www.meenova.com/ :good:
sandisk is about 3cm big (1 inch), so it's not an elefant
not that i have it always connected to the device so the size of it doesn't bother me...
i usually connect it once a week to make a twrp backup, phone sits on the table in that time, and i disconnect the usb 5 minutes after...
i think i'd probbably lose it easier if it was even smaller
btw sandisk has both full size usb and micro usb connector in one unit which makes pc to phone file transfers easy as hell... and file transfer speeds of sandisk are quite good (takes around 400-450 seconds for 4 gig backup)
i didn't see meenova with both connectors (or i missed that)
yes - meenova is a looker
Humm.
How about music? It is good to listen? There are some lag on reading files?
LuketaD2 said:
Humm.
How about music? It is good to listen? There are some lag on reading files?
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don't know about that, i use it for backups and file transfering only...
but it should be ok because read/write speeds are above 10mb/s (320kbps mp3 is 1/3 of a megabyte per second)
it should even handle mkv video files without a problem (although i didn't test yet because i don't use it for this)
suggest me a reliable and trustworthy otg benchmark app and i could test it for you (sandisk dual otg i mean)
60nine said:
don't know about that, i use it for backups and file transfering only...
but it should be ok because read/write speeds are above 10mb/s (320kbps mp3 is 1/3 of a megabyte per second)
it should even handle mkv video files without a problem (although i didn't test yet because i don't use it for this)
suggest me a reliable and trustworthy otg benchmark app and i could test it for you (sandisk dual otg i mean)
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Hm tks for your reply!
I'll buy one for tests...But like you said, it will handle well with this speeds...
I bought this USB dual drive and is very nice and small but esay to lose . . . .