I've done searches both on here and on Google, and it appears there's only a "proof of concept" for unlocking the bootloader on the HD and HD+ so far, right? I'm curious about what the status on that is. I don't know what the process is for getting a bootloader unlocked, but I am interested in learning about it, to help out.
Also, I'm aware there are workarounds for rooting and loading custom firmware, but I'm interested in unlocking the bootloader specifically, because I feel it's wrong to try and lock down a system this way.
This might be a dumb additional question, but would it be possible to outright replace the locked down bootloader with an open-source one?
To my knowledge, the "proof-of-concept" was the sdcard hack. The bootloader is locked down pretty good, and as we have pretty much full functionality with the sdcard and hybrid CM10s, most efforts seem to be going into perfecting those. I haven't heard of any progress being made with cracking the bootloader as of yet.
FrakWare said:
I've done searches both on here and on Google, and it appears there's only a "proof of concept" for unlocking the bootloader on the HD and HD+ so far, right? I'm curious about what the status on that is. I don't know what the process is for getting a bootloader unlocked, but I am interested in learning about it, to help out.
Also, I'm aware there are workarounds for rooting and loading custom firmware, but I'm interested in unlocking the bootloader specifically, because I feel it's wrong to try and lock down a system this way.
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Verygreen says it is possible to bypass the locked bootloader on internal memory with some hacks, but says he has no current plans to do that because the SD works so well. So, if you know how, have at it.
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Why is everybody just sitting around using Hybrid SD's? We should work on unlocking the bootloader, then we can have ROMS on the internal and actually use that 8gb/16gb of space? It just seems strange that nobody even wants to try. I'm getting an HD+ soon, and would be happy to play with the bootloader.
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In fact, I'm pretty much going to dedicate that tablet to getting the HD/HD+ bootloader unlocked.
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Why is everybody just sitting around using Hybrid SD's? We should work on unlocking the bootloader, then we can have ROMS on the internal and actually use that 8gb/16gb of space? It just seems strange that nobody even wants to try. I'm getting an HD+ soon, and would be happy to play with the bootloader.
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In fact, I'm pretty much going to dedicate that tablet to getting the HD/HD+ bootloader unlocked.
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And you told me on the the NC thread you were a noob?
And we still use that 16GB/32Gb of space on the HD+ with the Hybrid.
And verygreen just told us on his CM10.1 thread that he was starting to work on the locked bootloader.
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Mineturtle33 said:
We should work on unlocking the bootloader, then we can have ROMS on the internal and actually use that 8gb/16gb of space? It just seems strange that nobody even wants to try.
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Indeed, I completely agree with your logic.
However as mentioned, the Hybrid SD method works flawlessly; so there is no absolute need for alternatives, or at least we can rest now, knowing there are stable ROMs available for the Nook's. Of course, no developer community ever rests, but I guess the Nook's are fairly new, and not so popular.
As a response to your message, quoted above; you can actually install CyanogenMod using the Hybird method, and utilise the internal storage. A patch, posted by learpinlar tricks CM into believing that it's internal storage is actually the storage of your Nook; thus does not use your SD card as storage, but rather your Internal Storage. Your apps and everything are stored onto your Internal Storage, if you install the patch. It's as if CM10 is actually installed onto your Nook's Internal. The only parts stored on the SD is the bootloader bypass, and some other technical stuff I have no-know-how of.
I wasn't aware of that. Interesting.
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Hello all!
New Nook Color owner here. Love the little thing but I'm not sure what to do next!
Ideally I'd like to root it, get the CM7 nightlies on it, and have a generally stable system. There's lots of resources and tutorials on it, but where do I start? What tweaks should I apply? What's the best nightly build so far (one with deep sleep working)? should I install on the emmc or on a class 2 sandisk?
Help would definitely be appreciated.
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Hello all!
New Nook Color owner here. Love the little thing but I'm not sure what to do next!
Ideally I'd like to root it, get the CM7 nightlies on it, and have a generally stable system. There's lots of resources and tutorials on it, but where do I start? What tweaks should I apply? What's the best nightly build so far (one with deep sleep working)? should I install on the emmc or on a class 2 sandisk?
Help would definitely be appreciated.
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Starting with the SD card install of CM7 will let you try it without any risks, so try that first. Sandisc Class 2 is fast enough for it, although be aware there will be little lags here and there, particularly in the market.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1000957
The biggest problem for some people is writing the image to the card.. If it doesn't boot into CM7, it didn't burn right, period.
I suggest you put both the CM7 nightly and the Google Apps on the SD card for the initial install and it'll install both at the same time. When you get booted and you're setting up your Google Account hit the menu button and you'll be able to connect to wifi, then continue through setup normally.
yup having the right tools is the beginning:
SD cards probably 2 or 3, 4 gb sandisk cards Class-2 or 4
If you plan to move your stock B N to a bootable sandisk card, get an 8 GB one as well.
Then either 16 or 32 gb.
All of these of course sandisk.
You'll need a reader either small one directly for those disks or use a SD adapter.
Thanks for the responses guys. Long-term, would installing to the eMMCbenefit me more than on the SD, speedwise?
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I think that if you have very little use for the stock software, which would be basically for the special ebooks that have some interactive aspects. i.e. the little elephant.
Then you might as well emmc the alternative rom.
Now, if you use the nook as a ereader a lot and have a lot of books already and some of them interactive, you have the option of dual boot, boot of the sdcard (either the alt rom, or moving the stock over to the SD card).
It really depends.
I haven't bought any books outside of the ones that came with the nook color and so, I just backed up my stock rom and nandroided it. Eventually, I came to a night where I wanted to let my kids check out elephant story, so I ended up reflashing the stock, pushing the stock over to an SD card, so if I ever need to boot up that book for them, I can do it.
Otherwise I use cm7 for everything I need.
FWIW, full instructions on installing to emmc are here. Don't bother installing Dalingrin's OC kernel though separately, as it is already included with the recent CM7 nightlies.
penars said:
Thanks for the responses guys. Long-term, would installing to the eMMCbenefit me more than on the SD, speedwise?
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I have run it from both the eMMC and uSD. I really don't notice a difference.
I run from uSD using verygreen's "size agnostic..." guide now because I really like my stock B&N experience too so I put the stock ROM back on the eMMC. This way I can return it no problems if it needs warranty work...
Btw, putting CM7 on it is not rooting it, you are completely replacing the ROM on it. Rooting means leaving the stock ROM on it, and modifying it to allow for additional apps and marketplaces.
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I hope this is the right place to ask my question.
Can the Nook 3G be dual booted?
bobgee said:
I hope this is the right place to ask my question.
Can the Nook 3G be dual booted?
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The Nook 3g? The original black and white one?
dual boot for the nc ftw
cdaters said:
I have run it from both the eMMC and uSD. I really don't notice a difference.
I run from uSD using verygreen's "size agnostic..." guide now because I really like my stock B&N experience too so I put the stock ROM back on the eMMC. This way I can return it no problems if it needs warranty work...
Btw, putting CM7 on it is not rooting it, you are completely replacing the ROM on it. Rooting means leaving the stock ROM on it, and modifying it to allow for additional apps and marketplaces.
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Wrong. CM7 is pre-rooted. Rooting means gaining SU (administrator) privileges. This is used to give you more control and functionality on ANY rom or phone.
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Hello,
When I got my Note, I must have installed every app going on it, the phone got clogged up and just kept crashing out and being generally rubbish so I thought Id do a hard reset and start over. I booted into the stock recovery menu and just did a factory reset, it worked fine and the handsets fine but Im interested to know if on a stock rom, locked bootloader with no rooting could that affect my handset and mess with the storage capacity?
With me looking at rooting and roms Ive seen a lot of posts where people have rooted and done wipes on their phone and its corrupted the storage, loosing part of it, so I was just interested if the same risks apply to a stock handset?
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Hello,
When I got my Note, I must have installed every app going on it, the phone got clogged up and just kept crashing out and being generally rubbish so I thought Id do a hard reset and start over. I booted into the stock recovery menu and just did a factory reset, it worked fine and the handsets fine but Im interested to know if on a stock rom, locked bootloader with no rooting could that affect my handset and mess with the storage capacity?
With me looking at rooting and roms Ive seen a lot of posts where people have rooted and done wipes on their phone and its corrupted the storage, loosing part of it, so I was just interested if the same risks apply to a stock handset?
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See your post, I believe you are in GB rom / or on a safe ICS kernel.
Otherwise, I can only say you are damn lucky.
Rooting is not a problem in note. But wiping is a problem if u r on stock ICS kernel.
A lot of thread regarding this one alrd. If you're handphone is fine now, and you don't need root / etc... Just use it as per normal.
But if you want to do more with your handphone, read carefully on all thread that you wish to try to experiment on your handset.
I don't quite understand with what you want. Perhaps you could give your about screenshot, to know more on what stock rom you are now, and which kernel you are now. Then you list out what you need to do.
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No it can't mess with storage capacity, you are on stock recovery and that is safe
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Im just interested in finding out if me resetting my handset could have corrupted the phones storage. Not including my SD card, my note says Ive got 1.97gb of internal storage and then 11gb of USB storage which considering its a 16gb phone means theres about 3gb less. Even my external card (which is 16gb) registers 14.3gb. so I was just interested to find out if this is correct or if it sounds like the reboot has caused an issue?
I've only had the handset a couple of weeks and obviously its all still under warranty so I've got the option to send it back, which is easier the newer the handset.
mozza54 said:
Im just interested in finding out if me resetting my handset could have corrupted the phones storage. Not including my SD card, my note says Ive got 1.97gb of internal storage and then 11gb of USB storage which considering its a 16gb phone means theres about 3gb less. Even my external card (which is 16gb) registers 14.3gb. so I was just interested to find out if this is correct or if it sounds like the reboot has caused an issue?
I've only had the handset a couple of weeks and obviously its all still under warranty so I've got the option to send it back, which is easier the newer the handset.
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Those figures are correct, the rest of the memory is allocated to system. If you'd damaged the emmc you'd know about it cos the phone wouldn't boot. There's an app you can install to check for emmc damage in the play store
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.vinagre.android.emmc_check
You need to be rooted to do a full scan.
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Those figures are correct, the rest of the memory is allocated to system. If you'd damaged the emmc you'd know about it cos the phone wouldn't boot. There's an app you can install to check for emmc damage in the play store
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.vinagre.android.emmc_check
You need to be rooted to do a full scan.
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Yeah I saw that,.. thanks for the help, I think Im gonna has to stop being a giant wus now and get this sucker rooted
mozza54 said:
Yeah I saw that,.. thanks for the help, I think Im gonna has to stop being a giant wus now and get this sucker rooted
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It's worth it and nowadays fairly straight forward using pc odin or mobile odin. Look for links in the forum.
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Greetings, I recently bought myself a nook HD and tried to install CWM recovery on it, but it doesn't take. No matter how many times I boot with the SD card, using the win32diskimager with CWM-6027 image being written. It just...doesn't take. Was 2.1.1 implemented to prevent the SD card from booting? Or is it something I've done wrong during the process (Currently lacking a Micro>standard converter, so I've been using my old android phone as a mount, could this be it). Please let me know! I really want Cyanogen on this locked down device! Thank you!
Furtuim said:
Greetings, I recently bought myself a nook HD and tried to install CWM recovery on it, but it doesn't take. No matter how many times I boot with the SD card, using the win32diskimager with CWM-6027 image being written. It just...doesn't take. Was 2.1.1 implemented to prevent the SD card from booting? Or is it something I've done wrong during the process (Currently lacking a Micro>standard converter, so I've been using my old android phone as a mount, could this be it). Please let me know! I really want Cyanogen on this locked down device! Thank you!
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Yes, the android phone is the problem. You must mount it in your PC. And 2.1.1 did nothing to prevent boot.
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leapinlar said:
Yes, the android phone is the problem. You must mount it in your PC. And 2.1.1 did nothing to prevent boot.
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Well, looks like i'm out to scrounge an adapter, or waiting a few days! Thanks for the speedy response, happy turkey day!
New HD SD card booting (rooting) problem?
Well, I have a microSD card for rooting that boots fine in the two HD+ models I bought last June (I just verified this today), but will not boot in the new HD units I bought today.
So, something is different. I'm checking it out, but I thought I'd post this in the interim ...
Edit: Like an idiot, I _ASSUMED_ that because rooting procedures work on both the Nook HD+ and HD, that the bootable SD card is identical. Once I installed the CWM boot for the HD card, booting and rooting were seamless.
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Well, I have a microSD card for rooting that boots fine in the two HD+ models I bought last June (I just verified this today), but will not boot in the new HD units I bought today.
So, something is different. I'm checking it out, but I thought I'd post this in the interim ...
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Look at my HD/HD+ CWM thread linked in my signature. I have a warning in my warning box about the new units and how sometimes they are hard to boot and and a link to a thread where some users have tips to help.
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I've tried to read as much as I can about rooting the Nook HD+ here, but I have some questions before my attempts. It sounds like some Nook HD+ taking rooting fine while others do not. Through some of the reading I've done here, it sounds like you can dual boot if you have CWM/CM installed on an SD card. Before attempting anything, can you leave the stock Nook ICS on the internal memory and have CWM/CM installed on an external SD Card? I would feel more comfortable about that because it sounds like this is really hit and miss. If rooting does not take I can pull out the SD card and boot like normal to stock Nook ICS
I've never had a problem with rooting any devices that I've owned. This is the first time I've been hesitant about rooting. I just bought it today. I don't want to brick it. I liked how easy it was to root the Galaxy S3 with odin. I would feel more comfortable if there was something more automated in this case. It looked like there was a lot of different links to files for root. Which one is the current? Sorry if this is asked a lot. Thanks in advance for the help
Richard
I think I found the answers. I should have read a little more. I guess there is no way to do this without removing the stock firmware. That is fine with me, but I'm still nervous because the reports of Nooks boot looping seem to be frequent compared to other devices. I know this can obviously happen with any device. It looks like I can leave the stock firmware/ bootloader untouched if I understand this post correctly? I can install a bootloader and CM 10.1 to an external SD without affecting the Nook bootloader and firmware? Thanks again
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2317500
Well, first off I am very frustrated how so many users get confused about "rooting". Rooting is just the process of giving an operating system 'root' access. You can 'root' stock by flashing a zip with CWM. It is still stock but has root access.
Or you can replace stock with a totally different operating system (like CM). CM comes already rooted and unfortunately many users call installing CM rooting. It is not. It is installing a new operating system that just also happens to be already rooted.
Ok, off my soapbox.
If you are worried about messing up your stock then you should install CM to an SD. That leaves stock unmodified and allows CM to run independently. Just remove the SD and it will boot next time to stock. There are instructions to install to SD in the development threads.
All HD/HD+'s will have no trouble with rooting stock or installing CM. It is the actual ability to boot using a bootable SD that is sometimes troublesome. And you must be able to boot to an SD to either root stock or install CM. And of course if you want CM on SD, that must be able to boot also.
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Sorry, I should have been a little more clear. I was worried about putting CWM on the internal storage. I use the term rooting to broadly here. I saw people had trouble with CWM on internal storage and some not. I have plenty of experience. I'm not worried I would make mistake. Seems like this device has had recent history of problems with making any chances to the stock firmware. Most of the post I read were from people who bought the Nook recently. That is what made me thing before making a change.. The last thing anyone wants is to brick a new device. That's why I liked the idea of using external storage first. Thanks for clearing that up.
Richard
riche1 said:
Sorry, I should have been a little more clear. I was worried about putting CWM on the internal storage. I use the term rooting to broadly here. I saw people had trouble with CWM on internal storage and some not. I have plenty of experience. I'm not worried I would make mistake. Seems like this device has had recent history of problems with making any chances to the stock firmware. Most of the post I read were from people who bought the Nook recently. That is what made me thing before making a change.. The last thing anyone wants is to brick a new device. That's why I liked the idea of using external storage first. Thanks for clearing that up.
Richard
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Well putting CM on internal is very easy and reliable once you get the SD to boot. And that thread you referenced is the right one to be following if you want it on internal.
However if you want CM on SD follow a different thread.
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leapinlar said:
Well putting CM on internal is very easy and reliable once you get the SD to boot. And that thread you referenced is the right one to be following if you want it on internal.
However if you want CM on SD follow a different thread.
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Which one would that be? I thought it was all on that one linj. Thanks for pointing that out.
I'm sure this all works fine on internal storage, like you said. Normally I would go for it, but this is the first time I have been a little nervous.
riche1 said:
Which one would that be? I thought it was all on that one linj. Thanks for pointing that out.
I'm sure this all works fine on internal storage, like you said. Normally I would go for it, but this is the first time I have been a little nervous.
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I would suggest this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2087988
That puts CM10.1 on it and it is very stable. There are other threads for CM10.2 and for the SGT7 modified CM10.1 and CM10.2 on SD, but I think the one above would be your best bet.
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Hey guys, I'm new to this device. My 3 boys all have the Nook HD, and I would like to be able to sideload apps for them, i.e. AdAway, but keep the stock ROM as they are comfortable with it.
I see that the current methods are quite simple and refined, which is awesome, but I have one problem - I can't seem to find a microSD anywhere. Could have sworn I had one kicking around. However, I've got ADB working; do I need to go buy a microSD for sure, or can I use ADB to flash custom recovery to the internal memory and proceed? (Yes, I am that cheap :silly
mrage said:
Hey guys, I'm new to this device. My 3 boys all have the Nook HD, and I would like to be able to sideload apps for them, i.e. AdAway, but keep the stock ROM as they are comfortable with it.
I see that the current methods are quite simple and refined, which is awesome, but I have one problem - I can't seem to find a microSD anywhere. Could have sworn I had one kicking around. However, I've got ADB working; do I need to go buy a microSD for sure, or can I use ADB to flash custom recovery to the internal memory and proceed? (Yes, I am that cheap :silly
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You need a micro SD. You cannot do anything like flash recovery with ADB without being rooted. And you cannot root without an SD.
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leapinlar said:
You need a micro SD. You cannot do anything like flash recovery with ADB without being rooted. And you cannot root without an SD.
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Thanks for the quick response! That makes sense, I hadn't considered that I had to be rooted to flash recovery. D'oh.
Sandisk 8gb microSD cards are available on EBay for less than $5.
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