Sonys answer. Removal of the anti shatter film. - Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Was reading it last night on the Vodafone Australia Google + page.
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Unbelievable.
They create a glass phone and cover it in plastic

Still looks and performs much better without it. I'm happy i removed mine.

It only breaks warranty if the damage is a consequence of you removing the film.
Meaning if your screen shatters you can't say I want a replacement because you removed the protective layer (but you wouldn't get a replacement even with the protector on anyway).
Total baloney, loads of people removed theirs from other Xperias and had no trouble whatsoever. The Z is no different.
Glad I did it, screen feels so much nicer to the touch.

lloydbf said:
It only breaks warranty if the damage is a consequence of you removing the film.
Meaning if your screen shatters you can't say I want a replacement because you removed the protective layer (but you wouldn't get a replacement even with the protector on anyway).
Total baloney, loads of people removed theirs from other Xperias and had no trouble whatsoever. The Z is no different.
Glad I did it, screen feels so much nicer to the touch.
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Yes, screen feels a lot better. And... Phone looks better too, which is why i bought it partly for. For the look and design. (+performance too) :highfive:

Nothing there that is not already obvious, if you remove the film and then drop the phone causing the screen to crack of course it won't be covered under warranty, but then even if the film was on and the same thing happened, that wouldn't be under warranty anyway.
The only slight problem is if you do as they say and break the waterproof sealant while removing the film and then decide to drop the phone in water, but you'd have to be pretty clumsy to remove it that viciously!
So if you want the film removed go ahead and enjoy the different look and feel, I'm pretty sure most of us are going to be careful with our phones all the same

I'm just curious as to whether anyone thinks leaving the film on might slightly reduce the chance of the glass cracking to start with.
I doubt it, and if it did surely the difference would be minute.
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Drop with layer = contained crack, replacement via insurance.
Drop without layer = crack & shatter, replacement via insurance.
Remove it, it looks/feels sooooo much better without.

Decided to remove both films - glad I did!
Phone look indeed much better, doesn't attract dust, less fingerprints, better responsiveness and even better screen IQ.
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But the Sony Logo will be gone if you remove it, right?
Won't there be much more Fingerprints on it? Heared the Screen doesnt have an oleophobic coating?

Neither does the film.

Paddiii said:
But the Sony Logo will be gone if you remove it, right?
Won't there be much more Fingerprints on it? Heared the Screen doesnt have an oleophobic coating?
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no, sony logo will be part of the glass. someone else confirmed it in the other thread. the photos you see online are the pre production models.
btw, most companies saying stuff like it may or will void your warranty when you removed it and blah blah.....sometimes they just want to scare you. They dont want you to remove it so they dont have to deal with it. just saying ~

LitoNi said:
no, sony logo will be part of the glass. someone else confirmed it in the other thread. the photos you see online are the pre production models.
btw, most companies saying stuff like it may or will void your warranty when you removed it and blah blah.....sometimes they just want to scare you. They dont want you to remove it so they dont have to deal with it. just saying ~
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Really ? i saw some pic. showing no Sony logo after Removal !!!!

LitoNi said:
no, sony logo will be part of the glass. someone else confirmed it in the other thread. the photos you see online are the pre production models.
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I haven't seen anyone say that, every single post I've seen where people say they've removed it say the logo has come off on their new phones...

My SONY logo came off with/was printed on the pre applied layer.
Not bothered.

I removed it on the back.
It feels much better now, but there are much much more fingerprints visible
I dont want to imaging how bad his would be for the front

itsmemuffins said:
Unbelievable.
They create a glass phone and cover it in plastic
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Read with understanding...
They will not repair your device if you take it off and damage the phone in a way that is a direct result of that...
If the internal hardware is faulty, they won't look at your screen and repair the phone.
If you'll damage the screen though ( crack, broken glass pieces damaging the screen itself etc ) and have the film removed - they'll most likely deny your claim.
If you decide to take a safety measure off - don't blame Sony if you damage this particular part. It's obvious, it's understandable, it's perfectly fair.

Akiainavas said:
Read with understanding...
They will not repair your device if you take it off and damage the phone in a way that is a direct result of that...
If the internal hardware is faulty, they won't look at your screen and repair the phone.
If you'll damage the screen though ( crack, broken glass pieces damaging the screen itself etc ) and have the film removed - they'll most likely deny your claim.
If you decide to take a safety measure off - don't blame Sony if you damage this particular part. It's obvious, it's understandable, it's perfectly fair.
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Dropping & cracking a screen isn't covered by warranty anyway.
It's accidental damage, not faulty equipment.
Therefore, removed or not, it's a repaired screen or replacement Z either out of your own pocket or via insurance.

Guys you are missing the point here. If you break the screen with or without plastic film warranty won't cover repairs in either case, but it will be much easier to shatter screen without protective film. Same amount of force which is enough to shatter unprotected screen won't be enough to shatter screen with film on it.
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Mr. Corny said:
Guys you are missing the point here. If you break the screen with or without plastic film warranty won't cover repairs in either case, but it will be much easier to shatter screen without protective film. Same amount of force which is enough to shatter unprotected screen won't be enough to shatter screen with film on it.
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I thought the film had no effect on its force resistance, just that the shards if broken will be kept safe and not shatter everywhere.
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[Q]are you have screen shields placed by factory originaly?!!!

hi bros
what is this screen shields on both of the phone surfaces??!!!
i bought this phone yesterday!!!but i noticed phone is covered with two clear layer like as screen protectors on both sides!!!on the back side it has a square paper label something like as a mark!!!i dont know what is this ?can i remove this shields?unless phone isnt made with drugonglass???so what is this shields???are you have this sheets on your phone originaly???
tnx
babakmaham said:
hi bros
what is this screen shields on both of the phone surfaces??!!!
i bought this phone yesterday!!!but i noticed phone is covered with two clear layer like as screen protectors on both sides!!!on the back side it has a square paper label something like as a mark!!!i dont know what is this ?can i remove this shields?unless phone isnt made with drugonglass???so what is this shields???are you have this sheets on your phone originaly???
tnx
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Yeah mine came with both. I think everyone has them.
Some people removed them, but some people say they help with the strength of the glass.
I took my front one off because it got some marks on it... Seems fine without it.
I say: Leave them on until they get damaged (which seems quite easy)
adamryd said:
Yeah mine came with both. I think everyone has them.
Some people removed them, but some people say they help with the strength of the glass.
I took my front one off because it got some marks on it... Seems fine without it.
I say: Leave them on until they get damaged (which seems quite easy)
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Tnx
This means drugonglass is under the shields?is this true?!!!
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adamryd said:
Yeah mine came with both. I think everyone has them.
Some people removed them, but some people say they help with the strength of the glass.
I took my front one off because it got some marks on it... Seems fine without it.
I say: Leave them on until they get damaged (which seems quite easy)
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You removed the front one? Did the Sony logo still stick on the phone? or it's embedded on the screen protector??
AW: [Q]are you have screen shields placed by factory originaly?!!!
xiaopai89 said:
You removed the front one? Did the Sony logo still stick on the phone? or it's embedded on the screen protector??
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Afaik the Sony logo is on the preinstalled shatterproof protectors and will disappear when removing the front one.
it seems,not only this protectors increases dust absorption and finger print but also is getting a feel of lost slip on screen when i want to sweep between the pages.i think is better to remove this shields if it is possible and dont injury knocks the screen
my q is why sony should be placed these protectors even with using drugonglass in z?!!!is this can a reason for worse viewing angle on xperia z?!!!
Retxud said:
Afaik the Sony logo is on the preinstalled shatterproof protectors and will disappear when removing the front one.
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are you sure this?!!!!
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babakmaham said:
are you sure this?!!!!
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From what has been posted here, yes. Haven't tried it.
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Retxud said:
From what has been posted here, yes. Haven't tried it.
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who is tried this? i want to peel off these sheets but scare for SONY logo off.
Retxud said:
From what has been posted here, yes. Haven't tried it.
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I removed mine and the sony logo is still there, im guessing the logo is underneath the glassitself...
mihajaru said:
I removed mine and the sony logo is still there, im guessing the logo is underneath the glassitself...
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good news for me.thanks.can u explain me what is changed after removing ?
I removed back and front, phone looks and feels awful now, fingerprint magnet, some glue residue on the back and Sony logo was attached to the front protector.
after 2 day i sold f..k xz and came back to note 2....
biffsmash said:
I removed back and front, phone looks and feels awful now, fingerprint magnet, some glue residue on the back and Sony logo was attached to the front protector.
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C6603:
removed front and back covers. Less fingerprints and better viewing angles for me! :good:
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C6603:
removed front and back covers. Less fingerprints and better viewing angles for me! :good:
:angel:
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Then you're very lucky as the back of mine looks like a multicolored rainbow of oil slick after a few mins use.
Did you lose the Sony logo off the front? If you didn't you likely just removed the second screen protectors and left the shatter proof factory ones on.
Mines almost unusable now as the fingerprints are worse than any phone I've ever owned.
Viewing angles remain unchanged from removing the protectors, you shouldn't spread false info as there will be a lot of unhappy campers removing their protectors and seeing zero viewing angle difference.
I think you'd better not peel them off. These coverings are designed to prevent broken glass splinters hurting people, and hard and stuck very tight with special method in factory. It won't affect display I suppose, trust Sony. It's part of the device. Moreover, since it scratches easily, add one more film on it...
warranty
not sure if removing sony anti-shatter foils does also remove warranty...as you are given foils also in package, maybe read somewhere on XDA
I do not understand why people remove these...
- When NOT removed and If you drop the phone, it prevents the glass splinters from shattering all over the place.
- When removed Sony can no longer guarantee the phone to be water proof, as stated in another topic.
- When removed the phone attracts more fingerprints.
- When removed you lose the Sony logo on the front.
As far for these scratching a lot, I have not put on any extra screen protector and do not have a single scratch yet.
However I do use a leather case, always do that with all my phones.
Used Xperia Play for 2 years aprox, not a single scratch on the pre installed film.
Kind regards, Stefan.
The dragontrail glass is only for durability purposes! DO NOT remove the shatter proof sheet, it protects the screen from drop shocks so it doesn't get broken! Use the supplied screen protector and you will be fine! Unfortunately here in Greece it ships without screen protectors in the box and damn we got the highest price! (€699)

Does removing the factory installed screen protector on front affect water-proofing?

I want to remove it but afraid that it will somehow affect the water proofing feature. Can anyone confirm if it will remain waterproofed it i do so?
Fasty12 said:
I want to remove it but afraid that it will somehow affect the water proofing feature. Can anyone confirm if it will remain waterproofed it i do so?
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Ask yourself this: When I paint the windows in my house, will they become more waterproof?
Dsteppa said:
Ask yourself this: When I paint the windows in my house, will they become more waterproof?
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That's not the right comparison. Right one is: "When I install tin film of plastic cover over the nuclear submarine, will it become more waterproof?"
Fasty12 said:
I want to remove it but afraid that it will somehow affect the water proofing feature. Can anyone confirm if it will remain waterproofed it i do so?
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If you take of the screen protector the Xperia will sink.... :laugh:
tamir_89 said:
That's not the right comparison. Right one is: "When I install tin film of plastic cover over the nuclear submarine, will it become more waterproof?"
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Hahaha it's hard to find something good.
Got another one: When you remove the protector, do you think that the glass will suddenly start leaking? I mean it's glass... the molecules of the glass are closer together then water.
Or if you want a simple answer: NO IT WILL NOT AFFECT THE DEVICE WATERPROOF ABILITY AT ALL!
Dsteppa said:
Hahaha it's hard to find something good.
Got another one: When you remove the protector, do you think that the glass will suddenly start leaking? I mean it's glass... the molecules of the glass are closer together then water.
Or if you want a simple answer: NO IT WILL NOT AFFECT THE DEVICE WATERPROOF ABILITY AT ALL!
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Actually this is not a very apt comparison at all.
When removing the protector you *MAY* break the water tight seal the glass has with the midframe, the anti-shatter sheet is glued down with a pretty strong adhesive, force on the wrong angle will break the seal.
Short answer: It can if removed incorrectly.
May I also just ask how the screens use in wet weather will be effected. With the film on I seem able to use the screen accurately even with many droplets on screen.
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Kallb123 said:
May I also just ask how the screens use in wet weather will be effected. With the film on I seem able to use the screen accurately even with many droplets on screen.
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That's not a problem at all.
The only problem is that the movie will most likely stop playing since drops will be registered as touches and then the screen will do crazy things when you have a lot of drops on the screen.
I use MX Player, it has an option to lock all the controls and even that gets bypassed sometimes by the drops.
Dsteppa said:
That's not a problem at all.
The only problem is that the movie will most likely stop playing since drops will be registered as touches and then the screen will do crazy things when you have a lot of drops on the screen.
I use MX Player, it has an option to lock all the controls and even that gets bypassed sometimes by the drops.
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But with the film on, the drops don't seem to count as touches. I'm not too bothered tbh, it's rare I want to use it with water on screen. When I get my replacement I'll probably remove it's protector
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Fasty12 said:
I want to remove it but afraid that it will somehow affect the water proofing feature. Can anyone confirm if it will remain waterproofed it i do so?
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Is this a serious question?
WHY would you desire to remove the shatter proof coating in the first place. I may imagine doing so may affect your warranty? I doubt Sony would have added that addition if it was not needed?
Glass is impervious to water ingress.
Kind regards.
Ryland Johnson said:
Is this a serious question?
WHY would you desire to remove the shatter proof coating in the first place. I may imagine doing so may affect your warranty? I doubt Sony would have added that addition if it was not needed?
Glass is impervious to water ingress.
Kind regards.
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it's there to evade some dumbasses complaining about cutting fingers and ****, if somehow you break the screen. it won't make your screen stronger, only safer afterwards... so it's use comes in, only when you already broke the glass, and decide to play with it's screen
tamir_89 said:
it's there to evade some dumbasses complaining about cutting fingers and ****, if somehow you break the screen. it won't make your screen stronger, only safer afterwards... so it's use comes in, only when you already broke the glass, and decide to play with it's screen
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Indeed so, indeed so.
Ryland Johnson said:
Is this a serious question?
WHY would you desire to remove the shatter proof coating in the first place. I may imagine doing so may affect your warranty? I doubt Sony would have added that addition if it was not needed?
Glass is impervious to water ingress.
Kind regards.
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Because the shatter proof sheet scratches very fast.
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Dsteppa said:
Because the shatter proof sheet scratches very fast.
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That is why well over 100 companies manufacture screen protectors ranging in price from a euro to 30 euros. A screen protector is a wise investment. :good:
Regards.
Dsteppa said:
Because the shatter proof sheet scratches very fast.
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And that's the reason i removed it...lol
Biggest mistake ever removing the factory installed protectors. Glad Sony replaced mine because the back and front glass look like crap once the factory sheets are removed and you lose the Sony logo. Put a screen protector over it, you won't be sorry.
biffsmash said:
Biggest mistake ever removing the factory installed protectors. Glad Sony replaced mine because the back and front glass look like crap once the factory sheets are removed and you lose the Sony logo. Put a screen protector over it, you won't be sorry.
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i was glad to remove the protector. BECAUSE the Sony logo is gone and the clarity of the display is better. Also, the fingerprints are easier to remove! It is stated in the manual that removing the protector is "ok".
Remove. Please RTFM. Page 13 (EN):
"A protective plastic sheet is already attached to the screen of your device when you
buy it. You should peel off this sheet before using the touchscreen. Otherwise, the
touchscreen might not function properly."
ludow said:
Remove. Please RTFM. Page 13 (EN):
"A protective plastic sheet is already attached to the screen of your device when you
buy it. You should peel off this sheet before using the touchscreen. Otherwise, the
touchscreen might not function properly."
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Dont think they were reffering to the anti shatter film
nazrin313 said:
Dont think they were reffering to the anti shatter film
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Roger that. My bad. Anyway, major screen protection firms are selling films for Z.

Matte Screen Protector for ZR

Hi all !
I just bought THIS screen protector and just loving it.
I was worried about the fitting to the screen but the precision laser cut was very accurate, fits exactly to the screen.
I applied it myself for the first time, it is magnetic(does not leave adhesive residue) so you can always remove apply it correctly. The matte finish is just excellent
It is for Indian users but the seller said they import these from abroad so the same brand can be found on international sites too.
I got a clear screen protector and i like it better than matte finish.
george101 said:
I got a clear screen protector and i like it better than matte finish.
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1) can anybody show a side-to-side comparison of matte and clear protectors applied?
2) are the aftermarket protectors better than the sony stock protector?
Hi guys, just got my ZR and I'm loving it but it's quite the fingerprint magnet. Is there a screen protector that can help. I have set my eyes on this one http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vikuiti-A...ting_LaptopAccessories_RL&hash=item51b125bc05 but I don't know if it's any good. Any suggestions?
andes83 said:
Hi guys, just got my ZR and I'm loving it but it's quite the fingerprint magnet. Is there a screen protector that can help. I have set my eyes on this one but I don't know if it's any good. Any suggestions?
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I buy a 3pack of matte protection @ 3.5€ and it's just what i need!
But i cant remember the seller... Go for the cheaper (3pack is good if ou miss something during the assembly)
bismouth said:
I buy a 3pack of matte protection @ 3.5€ and it's just what i need!
But i cant remember the seller... Go for the cheaper (3pack is good if ou miss something during the assembly)
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Thank you, for your suggestion I got 3 matte and 6 clear screen protectors I will see how it goes and which I like best. Has anyone removed the pre-installed protector from their device. I'm concerned that I'll remove the SONY logo if I get rid of it (I hear that happened on xperia Z units). Is there any danger in removing it and should I remove it at all or just place the new one on top of it?
Place the new one on top. Doesn't dampen sensitivity too much.
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matte
At first didn't like my matte screen protector...
Pros
feels nicer!
no filthy finger prints!
minimal light reflections..
if you use dim backlight it really helps..
you can re apply it.
no air bubbles at all!
Cons
unable to use it as a mirror when screen off.
colours and images on the screen are not as sharp,
slight glow on whites.
But now i wouldn't go back!
I'm still waiting for my screen protector and today I noticed a tiny scratch on the screen. It's not that visible but is there a way to fix that. Will the screen protector cover it or I'm stuck with a scratched SONY?
andes83 said:
I'm still waiting for my screen protector and today I noticed a tiny scratch on the screen. It's not that visible but is there a way to fix that. Will the screen protector cover it or I'm stuck with a scratched SONY?
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Take a pencil eraser and rub it off..
It should not be the screen itself. Sony is known to apply screen protectors on each phone in-manufacture. It's not visible but if you insist you can remove it. It's even possible that the sony logo is simply printed on it, like the Xperia V.
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Removing the anti-shatter film will invalidate the warranty.
Seriously?? How could this void the warranty? It has nothing to do with the hardware and doesn't affect the device in any way!
Made in ZR
Ilko said:
Seriously?? How could this void the warranty? It has nothing to do with the hardware and doesn't affect the device in any way!
Made in ZR
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Yes, there are a lot users talking about it, removing the shatter-proof screen protector voids the warranty because it'll no longer be shatter proof.....stupid isn't it? I already scratched mine before knowing that, now I'm stuck with a scratched screen until my warranty ends and I remove the f****ing thing.
is this detail specified in the texts ?
Ilko said:
is this detail specified in the texts ?
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I can't really say I haven't researched this, what I know for sure is that this protector is factory heated onto the screen and it's not supposed to be removed.
Hi,
I'm trying to find a screen protector for a whole display, without any holes in it.. I found this: amazon.de/dp/B00K1JTIMG/ but of course, I'm not sure if it's a picture of a real product or just illustrative picture. can someone confirm / recommend something else?
(sorry, posting links is blocked, since I'm new here..)
andes83 said:
I can't really say I haven't researched this, what I know for sure is that this protector is factory heated onto the screen and it's not supposed to be removed.
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You are right. The protector is factory-heated onto the screen, remove it and the Sony logo will go off. As for the warranty, there are two paragraphs Sony could use against you if you remove the protector (as stated by the Important information brochure):
Do not paint or attempt to disassemble or modify the product. Only Sony authorized personnel should perform service.
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Additionally, "What we will do" section, says:
7. Tampering with any of the seals on the Product will void the warranty.
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I know it is not very specific, but hey, that's how lawyers do it.
The only thing I always wonder about, is what kind of glass ZR's screen uses... GorillaGlass? DragonTrail? I found many different sites talking about that, but none of them had conclusive evidence. Sony's official response is ZR uses a "Shatter proof and scratch-resistant glass". No specific brand mentioned .
Anyway, I bought a good protector for 5 bucks. It's a "KLX Anti-explosion Soft TPU 0.2mm Screen Guard Film" and the package includes everything you need to apply it successfully. Also, I saw a 1mm tempered glass protector for 15 bucks, thinking of buying it next time.

Worth lost sony logo?

Xperia z1 have a screen protetor, some people said than after take away screen is better, anyone already try?
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matheus_sc said:
Xperia z1 have a screen protetor, some people said than after take away screen is better, anyone already try?
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you can ask this guy in the comments:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pzxq-90NUIY
matheus_sc said:
Xperia z1 have a screen protetor, some people said than after take away screen is better, anyone already try?
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I removed the original screen protector and bought a new one on ebay. Definently less fingerprints.
Lucian5800 said:
I removed the original screen protector and bought a new one on ebay. Definently less fingerprints.
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I will do that, thanks for that.
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Lucian5800 said:
I removed the original screen protector and bought a new one on ebay. Definently less fingerprints.
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How you remove the stock protector?
Like the guy from the video with scalpel or another way?
I'm afraid not to damage the screen while I removing it
I don. t get why would anyone remove Sony shatter proof screen protector...
I just don't, there won't be any real difference in screen quality. Only difference is that you will loose some protection. And if you are worried about fingerprints, oh please. Just put another screen protector on top of it..
DefunctiO said:
I don. t get why would anyone remove Sony shatter proof screen protector...
I just don't
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Because is shattered?
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Xperia z1 have a screen protetor, some people said than after take away screen is better, anyone already try?
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I took it off both my Z and Z1. The sony ASF has an adhesive on it which I think affects screen quality I mean how can't it. I find I have better contrast without them. Plus the phone looks more monolithic without the sony logo. But there have been discussion about loss of warranty once you remove it.
bodson66 said:
I took it off both my Z and Z1. The sony ASF has an adhesive on it which I think affects screen quality I mean how can't it. I find I have better contrast without them. Plus the phone looks more monolithic without the sony logo. But there have been discussion about loss of warranty once you remove it.
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i already do'nt warranty, so for you is better?
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i already do'nt warranty, so for you is better?
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I found it to be better, but I'm not saying its a huge difference but i do find it to be better
I'm really close to removing mine. It scratches so easily! Never had a phone that got this many scratches in a week and it's not like i'm doing anything out of the ordinary with it.
Why put super tough glass on the phone and then cover it with a film that scratches?
white lie said:
I'm really close to removing mine. It scratches so easily! Never had a phone that got this many scratches in a week and it's not like i'm doing anything out of the ordinary with it.
Why put super tough glass on the phone and then cover it with a film that scratches?
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you are not alone, many of us have wondered why they do this. Every other manufacturer seems to have this anti shatter built into their screens. I'm not sure if its because sony doesn't use gorilla glass or some thing. The only this to remember that after you remove it the glass doesnt have an oleophobic coating. The ASF also leave a kind of stick residue. I use nail polish remover to get it all off. Then put a glass screen protector over top of it to give the that coating.
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bodson66 said:
you are not alone, many of us have wondered why they do this. Every other manufacturer seems to have this anti shatter built into their screens. I'm not sure if its because sony doesn't use gorilla glass or some thing. The only this to remember that after you remove it the glass doesnt have an oleophobic coating. The ASF also leave a kind of stick residue. I use nail polish remover to get it all off. Then put a glass screen protector over top of it to give the that coating.
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Also my Xperia ZL when I took it off still had the sony logo etched on so same question why sony why
Do you know if the back anti shatter film also has Sony logo on it?
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I'm interested too. I do not think will void the warranty unless you destroy your screen.
My question is, once you remove it what will you apply on your screen? I tried every good film screen protectors and no one is really oleophobic and without reducing the screen quality. Also seems on the market there aren't films or tempered glass without holes for the camera and sensors which I think is very annoying since they'll become dust magnets. Suggestions?
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I removed Sony SP from my Xperia S and I didn't get anything...
No better contrast, not even better or precise touch.
But XS don't have Sony logo on SP it's on the glass... I just applied invisible screen protector from eBay (applying with water) and I still use that phone...
But I won't peel SP from Z1 - I just applied same protector (Invisible SP) front and will soon apply one to back and it's awesome...
For me, there's no reason for peeling original SP down...
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matheus_sc said:
Xperia z1 have a screen protetor, some people said than after take away screen is better, anyone already try?
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If anything goes wrong in the future and you have to send back your device to customer service they'll say that warranty is lost... or they'll charge you extra money.
Personaly I bought Muvit Matt screen protection and I have no more fingerprint, the feeling is different from, for example, the Spigen Crystal Clear one which has a good feeling when touching the screen but with its fingerprint counterpart!
matheus_sc said:
i already do'nt warranty
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If you say that because of BL unlock then it is not sure warranty is 100% lost Sony' s unlock BL website says :
Please note that you may void the warranty of your device and/or any warranty from your operator if you unlock the boot loader
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I know it's sounds weird that removing a plastic layer (which is a kind of physical protection) will void warranty and not totally for a bootloader unlock but that's their position for now...
babylonbwoy said:
If anything goes wrong in the future and you have to send back your device to customer service they'll say that warranty is lost... or they'll charge you extra money.
Personaly I bought Muvit Matt screen protection and I have no more fingerprint, the feeling is different from, for example, the Spigen Crystal Clear one which has a good feeling when touching the screen but with its fingerprint counterpart!
If you say that because of BL unlock then it is not sure warranty is 100% lost Sony' s unlock BL website says :
I know it's sounds weird that removing a plastic layer (which is a kind of physical protection) will void warranty and not totally for a bootloader unlock but that's their position for now...
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This is untrue
I have returned my xperia T phone for a cracked screen after taking off the factory fitted screen protector and I got replacement with no questions asked
This is in the UK
I have also never seen it written on a sony website or contract that this will void warrenty
gregbradley said:
This is untrue
I have returned my xperia T phone for a cracked screen after taking off the factory fitted screen protector and I got replacement with no questions asked
This is in the UK
I have also never seen it written on a sony website or contract that this will void warrenty
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We asked a Sony rep (or a community manager) in french forum and that's what he told us.
Now I guess it depend on the service center or the country.
Also I don't know if it is the same policy for T and the Z line (waterproof, all glass etc) ?
Anyway maybe I'm wrong but I still won't take the risk.
babylonbwoy said:
We asked a Sony rep (or a community manager) in french forum and that's what he told us.
Now I guess it depend on the service center or the country.
Also I don't know if it is the same policy for T and the Z line?
Anyway maybe I'm wrong but I still won't take the risk.
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yes, it may be country specific but I have the same contract on my Z1 as I did with my T
Plus unlocking the bootloader definitely voids warranty so if you have done that you may as well take it off
I asked on sony xperia twitter account, we'll see if they reply.
For the BL I just report what's on their site, the use of "may void" is different of just "void", I guess they have a tons of advocates who carefully pays attention to each word used on their site.
I remember a while back reading something about Arc S (here on XDA) where they said that if the repair has nothing to do with the BL unlock then the warranty still works.
If your T was unlocked and they repaired the screen for free that means warranty worked even if the screen has nothing to do with BL unlock...?

Found a first case of a cracked back side

https://translate.google.com/transl...ny-xperia-z3-ja-z3-compact&edit-text=&act=url (original: http://kiip.ee/arvustus-sony-xperia-z3-ja-z3-compact/ )
One long and "clean" crack. According to the review(er), the crack happened inexplicably; they did some tests with water and dust/sand, but no drop tests.
It makes me wonder if the Z3C has significant overheating issues. It could be that the excessive heat from 4k recording induces a temperature shock to the glass if it is exposed to cold water shortly after.
Looking at the direction of the crack, it's unlikely that it's the result of "pocket flex"
No don't tell me that! Now I feel like I certainly need a case.
wikitiki said:
No don't tell me that! Now I feel like I certainly need a case.
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Since the review doesn't mention anything about an impact to the glass, if it is indeed due to overheating, then a case would likely only increase the risk of cracking.
One possibility is that it happened during 4k video recording, since that's the one activity that makes the phone heat up the most.
But of course, there is also still the possibility that something went wrong during the tempering procedure of the glass back panel of this particular unit. Or maybe the sand test made some micro scratches and caused a weakness? We just can't know for sure.
wikitiki said:
No don't tell me that! Now I feel like I certainly need a case.
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That's what I don't understand about 'you people'. Why would you use it without any case or so? It should be more then normal to protect such an expensive device somehow.
An accident is so easily made even if it's not your fault, but why take the risk?
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Yeah so avoid 4k unless you really need to record it. It seems like several Z2 owners have been experiencing cracked screens. Some were lucky and able to get theirs replaced under Sony warranty but some others aren't. Found that the warranty reviewers would often blame it on the owner for damaging it. I'm just worried that if this is a common issue, we would have to pay for repairs.
Dsteppa said:
That's what I don't understand about 'you people'. Why would you use it without any case or so? It should be more then normal to protect such an expensive device somehow.
An accident is so easily made even if it's not your fault, but why take the risk?
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While using a case is generally a good idea, it would actually - as I said earlier - increase the risk of cracking if it did indeed happen due to overheating, because a case will make it harder for the heat to dissipate.
And for a phone of which one of its main features is its beautiful design, it's kind of a shame if you must hide that design 24/7 in a case.
degraaff said:
While using a case is generally a good idea, it would - as mentioned in above - only increase the risk of cracking if it did indeed happen due to overheating, because a case will make it harder for the heat to dissipate.
Also, for a phone of which one of its main features is its beautiful design, it is kind of a shame if you have to hide that design 24/7 with a case.
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Yeah, but in a perfect world you never drop your phone and does the screen never crack without a reason.
Of course the feature of a phone is to look nice, but drop it once or twice and you might have a whole lot of headache, just because you refused to use a case.
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Dsteppa said:
Yeah, but in a perfect world you never drop your phone and does the screen never crack without a reason.
Of course the feature of a phone is to look nice, but drop it once or twice and you might have a whole lot of headache, just because you refused to use a case.
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Again, there's no mention of a drop in the review; it cracked inexplicable as the review states. Cracks from drops or impacts also usually look a lot messier.
degraaff said:
Again, there's no mention of a drop in the review; it cracked inexplicable as the review states. Cracks from drops or impacts also usually look a lot messier.
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Yeah I know there isn't I read it, but it's not only about the review. There is a saying that goes: Better safe then sorry.
Nowadays people use their phone for a lot more things then just calling/texting people, you can lose so many valuable files when your phone breaks, so why take that risk?
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Yeah I know there isn't I read it, but it's not only about the review. There is a saying that goes: Better safe then sorry.
Nowadays people use their phone for a lot more things then just calling/texting people, you can lose so many valuable files when your phone breaks, so why take that risk?
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Right. Well then it would be best to use one of these cases with holes in them, for not increasing the risk of cracking from heat.
I suppose that the good thing about a glass back is that, unless it is very wet, it actually "sticks" to your skin much more than any matte plastic back, so the risk of dropping is lower which compensates for its fragility. I tested this by holding my phone (xperia acro s with a soft-touch plastic back) backwards. When I put the phone on my hand with the display facing down, I can hold my hand in a much steeper angle and the phone will only start to slide off very slowly. But if I put the phone on my hand with the plastic back facing down, it will very quickly slide off at a 45 degree angle.
What is the Z3C back made from?
SenK9 said:
What is the Z3C back made from?
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Glass, I think this crack confirms that. There's no certainty about which brand the glass is from though. Some say Dragontrail, others say Gorilla Glass 3. The official product page just mentions "tempered glass"
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Glass, I think this crack confirms that. There's no certainty about which brand the glass is from though. Some say Dragontrail, others say Gorilla Glass 3. The official product page just mentions "tempered glass"
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Since the Xperia Z, people are wondering what kind of glass it is, Sony never said what it is and just referred to it as tempered glass.
Its probably just regular ass glass haha
maybe put THIS on and the risk would be greatly reduced?
ah_hin said:
maybe put THIS on and the risk would be greatly reduced?
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The rhino shield is a perfect impact protection but I doubt it will protect the glass when the temperature chances too quickly.
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ah_hin said:
maybe put THIS on and the risk would be greatly reduced?
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Well, went through the reviews on Amazon and found -though generally good- somewhat mixed feedback, especially when it comes down to durability. My current Xperia M is equipped with a regular screen protector foil and it did not need any replacement since about a year. But what really keeps me off is the price of some 25$ (front) or 29$ (front and back) Rhino is calling, so one can get 10+ regular foils for that.
Anyhow, my new Z3C (hope it'll be shipped sooner ) will immediatly be foiled and secured by a case.
I hate cases, I have never had one I liked, so I end up using my phones without a case. I'll do the same with the Z1C.
There is now also a first case of screen shatter by accidental drop: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIFgcCoWEZs
Supposedly it fell into concrete from around pocket height.
It's also notable how there are actually chunks out of the plastic frame, rather than just scuffs.
Update: the surface texture of the concrete was "a little rough" according to the person who dropped it.

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