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You're not a developer (rant)

I've read over the last few days multiple posts coming from more than one person that go like ~"I know what you're taking about, I'm a developer too", "dude I'm not a noob I'm a developer too", "I'm better than you, I can develop my custom ROM", and so on.
Truth is...
You're probably not a developer.
Using dsixda's kitchen, UOT kitchen and winzip (and maybe apktools) does not make you a developer.
Following tutorials and copying/pasting smali code does not make you a developer.
You're an interested user, maybe even a themer, but don't be arrogant. Know the difference.
I'm not saying it's a bad thing. It's great that everyone is willing to learn, and these methods are a good place to start. But I say again: you're not a developer.
Call yourself an interested user, a ROM cook, a learning newbie, a themer if you're good at that, but not a developer.
Obviously, the same applies to me.
/rant over

You may better specify the answer for
WHO THE DEVELOPER ACTUALLY IS ?
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Well a developer includes in his work researching, designing, implementing, and testing software. A person who develops stand-alone software (that is more than just a simple program) and got involved with all phases of the development (design and code) is a software developer. On the other hand the one that only implements and does the copy paste of the code is called a programmer. I hope that i was specific and i made myself clear.

ok so we are not devs we know that so why make this thread?

GermainZ said:
I've read over the last few days multiple posts coming from more than one person that go like ~"I know what you're taking about, I'm a developer too", "dude I'm not a noob I'm a developer too", "I'm better than you, I can develop my custom ROM", and so on.
Truth is...
You're probably not a developer.
Using dsixda's kitchen, UOT kitchen and winzip (and maybe apktools) does not make you a developer.
Following tutorials and copying/pasting smali code does not make you a developer.
You're an interested user, maybe even a themer, but don't be arrogant. Know the difference.
I'm not saying it's a bad thing. It's great that everyone is willing to learn, and these methods are a good place to start. But I say again: you're not a developer.
Call yourself an interested user, a ROM cook, a learning newbie, a themer if you're good at that, but not a developer.
Obviously, the same applies to me.
/rant over
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Well said!! I too am seeing too much negativity and rudeness towards people who come here to learn.
They are new so might not understand the rules, yet, but they are here to learn so we should help them not tell them they are worthless noobs and dont deserve your help.
We all learn here and thats what makes XDA a good place to hang out.
No one on this forum is better than anyone else sore may be more advanced along the learning curve.
Hello! I am Dom, I am an interested user wanting to learn more about android. I can cut and paste and follow tutorials but I am not a developer.

samrulzzz007 said:
ok so we are not devs we know that so why make this thread?
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If you know that, good. Feel free to disregard this rant.

Im new to xda and I posted in a few wrong sections. Would have thought its the end of the world or something. I didn't do it to make some of you mad. But being mean like some are turns people away from this great community. Treat people like you wanna be treated!!! that's all.
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alex_is_the_1 said:
Im new to xda and I posted in a few wrong sections. Would have thought its the end of the world or something. I didn't do it to make some of you mad. But being mean like some are turns people away from this great community. Treat people like you wanna be treated!!! that's all.
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agree with u.. i think they not supposed to threat other that way.. they should be helping not to be mean.. all of us do mistake.. nobody perfect..
peace no war..

alex_is_the_1 said:
Im new to xda and I posted in a few wrong sections. Would have thought its the end of the world or something. I didn't do it to make some of you mad. But being mean like some are turns people away from this great community. Treat people like you wanna be treated!!! that's all.
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Could not have said it better myself, when I came here I was treated well, seems to be only last few weeks/months?? Still
Be nice.

alex_is_the_1 said:
Im new to xda and I posted in a few wrong sections. Would have thought its the end of the world or something. I didn't do it to make some of you mad. But being mean like some are turns people away from this great community. Treat people like you wanna be treated!!! that's all.
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Nobody here has anything against anyone. Yeah some outbursts are uncalled for. But that is rare. Must be some personal problems or somebody having a bad day. Senior members, contributors,developers etc all have gone through that phase. So dont be offended by anybody's rude behaviour. It wasnt , is and will not be anything personal against anyone. If he ir she has been rude to you....they will realize that later on.
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Androidnow said:
Nobody here has anything against anyone. Yeah some outbursts are uncalled for. But that is rare. Must be some personal problems or somebody having a bad day. Senior members, contributors,developers etc all have gone through that phase. So dont be offended by anybody's rude behaviour. It wasnt , is and will not be anything personal against anyone. If he ir she has been rude to you....they will realize that later on.
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I know that everyone here is human (i guess?) and may have a bad day, but the image that xda passes is that she's not welcoming anyone. It already starts with that noob video that makes me to go through a deep depression. Not complaining about xda, but being nice will bring more people, and sooner or later, more developers, making this community bigger and bigger.

mathm2013 said:
I know that everyone here is human (i guess?) and may have a bad day, but the image that xda passes is that she's not welcoming anyone. It already starts with that noob video that makes me to go through a deep depression. Not complaining about xda, but being nice will bring more people, and sooner or later, more developers, making this community bigger and bigger.
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Lol....No u took it all wrong brother. That video isnt about showing anyone down....i have seen it...rather its an informative one accrding to me.....it clearly tells you that "Noob" isnt welcome. Ofcourse....it good to be warned before you start.....newbie is a good thing....people who do not want to read and ask all silly questions when all of it is already mentioned in the OP or a few pages back....are termed as "noobs". When i joined XDA i didnt even had this phone with me....for 6 months what i did was to read and clarified doubts....used google....It has almost every answer to your question...believe . I am still not a developer,nor a themer nor a rom cook....i dont get to spend much time on pc.....even then this googling and reading has given me enough knowledge to clarify my doubts myself. XDA is not a human or animal.....its all of us together....that video was sarcastic and informative. Such videos dont depress you...its the people here on XDA who are responsible for your depression and happiness. And as far as i know...here people are quiet helpful....just a few "anger bursts" but that i believe is quiet fine and normal... We have people from all cultures and countries. Diffrences do tend to occur.

Where do u suggest to start to learn if I know these "basic" things and I'd like to be a developer of this phone?

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Where do u suggest to start to learn if I know these "basic" things and I'd like to be a developer of this phone?
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This thread is still alive?
There are plenty of tutorials here and in the development section. You can also check the ROM cooking XDA forum.

Androidnow said:
Lol....No u took it all wrong brother. That video isnt about showing anyone down....i have seen it...rather its an informative one accrding to me.....it clearly tells you that "Noob" isnt welcome. Ofcourse....it good to be warned before you start.....newbie is a good thing....people who do not want to read and ask all silly questions when all of it is already mentioned in the OP or a few pages back....are termed as "noobs". When i joined XDA i didnt even had this phone with me....for 6 months what i did was to read and clarified doubts....used google....It has almost every answer to your question...believe . I am still not a developer,nor a themer nor a rom cook....i dont get to spend much time on pc.....even then this googling and reading has given me enough knowledge to clarify my doubts myself. XDA is not a human or animal.....its all of us together....that video was sarcastic and informative. Such videos dont depress you...its the people here on XDA who are responsible for your depression and happiness. And as far as i know...here people are quiet helpful....just a few "anger bursts" but that i believe is quiet fine and normal... We have people from all cultures and countries. Diffrences do tend to occur.
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Yeah, man, you're right. Because of your answer, i've realized that being a noob is not a bad thing. Everyone started as a noob. Act like one is the problem. Starting a new thread to ask if we got jelly bean means asking for a "anger burst". Exactly like you said, by having a Galaxy Ace I/C/M, we got a lot of countries, like Brazil (from me) and countries from Asia. So, thanks for your answer, and sorry for your trouble.

GermainZ what you explained in the first post isn't developing, it's programming.
Everyone can be a developer, as long as they're helping the project, even if its only reporting glitches, bugs etc, they're still developers.
Programming on the other hand requires some experience but isn't that difficult as you think it might be, Just look at python lol, pretty much anyone who knows english can write in that.
I think you might need do a little research before posting such ****ty threads.

Qnrx said:
GermainZ what you explained in the first post isn't developing, it's programming.
Everyone can be a developer, as long as they're helping the project, even if its only reporting glitches, bugs etc, they're still developers.
Programming on the other hand requires some experience but isn't that difficult as you think it might be, Just look at python lol, pretty much anyone who knows english can write in that.
I think you might need do a little research before posting such ****ty threads.
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This is out of context now.
If I remember correctly, when I posted this, there was some kind of flame war going on between ROM cooks/users (not sure what exactly it was about, or who was involved - it doesn't matter). This thread was mostly to show that while everybody appreciates the effort, they shouldn't act as if they are superior. You really should have been there to understand.
The whole OP is exaggerated for that (and FYI, since you mentioned it, I can code basic stuff in C++/Java, and more advanced stuff in Python, tho I prefer Python as it's neat, has one of the best documentations I've seen, and I can execute it directly from within my bash scripts without any extra steps).

Qnrx said:
GermainZ what you explained in the first post isn't developing, it's programming.
Everyone can be a developer, as long as they're helping the project, even if its only reporting glitches, bugs etc, they're still developers.
Programming on the other hand requires some experience but isn't that difficult as you think it might be, Just look at python lol, pretty much anyone who knows english can write in that.
I think you might need do a little research before posting such ****ty threads.
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He wasnt showing anyone down....but he was just clearing the air as there were quite a number of people who were calling themselves developers and were showing some superiority in their behaviour with newbies or even other members.....which in any point is not acceptable. Doesnt matter whether you are recognised developer,themer, elite member or moderator.....here every one is contributing in their own way and every one is in the same level.

Androidnow said:
He wasnt showing anyone down....but he was just clearing the air as there were quite a number of people who were calling themselves developers and were showing some superiority in their behaviour with newbies or even other members.....which in any point is not acceptable. Doesnt matter whether you are recognised developer,themer, elite member or moderator.....here every one is contributing in their own way and every one is in the same level.
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if thats the case then, thank you for clearing everything up.

Qnrx said:
if thats the case then, thank you for clearing everything up.
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And anything else you want to say to Germainz for that " Sh***y thread" comment above?

[REQUEST] Who are the developers?

Hello everyone!
Reading a lot and flashing awesome roms and mods at XDA I start to get increasingly interested in who the developers are. Sometimes threads go slightly off-topic and we get a glimpse of the person who is devoting so much time and effort for our devices.
Isn't there a thread missing where those stars we admire leak something about themselves?
There is a long list of celebrities on XDA/SGN700, and I (and I guess many other addicts/inmates/groupies) would be very delighted if those of you who want to could tell us something about yourself or off-topic you just don't want to post into the developer threads. Or accept our humble requests to leak something personal about yourself. Maybe something like this:
Where do you live?
What do you do to make a living?
Why do you develop? Why for the Note?
What did you do to learn this magic?
What do you work on right now? What's next? [no ETA, of course]
What is your personal challenge in developing?
Maybe something personal, what do you like and hate in real live and here? Why did you chose that avatar? Etc.
That might also keep the threads clean of this stuff.
@moderator: If this is dealt with somewhere else or surprisingly has been posted already - please delete. Thanks!

Doubt you'll get many bites on this, so here is a start for you.
http://thesillyclone.wordpress.com/2012/07/27/interview-with-xplodwild/
FYI, xplodwild is / was the lead dev for official Cyanogenmod on the Note GT-N7000.

Thank your for the link, exactly what I was looking for. I just hoped to shed some light on some more of them, since we just take so much and don't even know their names.
Maybe you are right, though I hope not.

AW: [REQUEST] Who are the developers?
molecularSigns said:
... and don't even know their names.
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That's called privacy and you should respect it.
So before posting something like this you have at least to ask the person you're writing about for permission. I doubt this has happened here.
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Thank you ThaiDai for your answer.
I respect privacy very much, that is why I wrote "those of you who want to". The questions I posted don't aks for privacies. And I did not ask for names, or did I? Nothing to doubt, please.
Anyway, thank you nickshertzer. If there is more like that anyone knows I would be grateful.

Goodbye OmniRom~

My galaxy nexus will continue running CyanogenMod for losing surport of OmniRom nightly build.
As CM11.0 is becoming more and more stable,I believe the nightly will coming soon.

We are gutted.

CM Nightlies arent our yet and IT IS BECOMING MORE N MORE STABLE :banghead:

What wait?
So OMNIROM no longer pledge support for Gnex?
Was looking for a 4.4 Kitkat rom from omni guess not...

No maintainer has a Galaxy Nexus. Give us a Galaxy Nexus (or find a maintainer with a Galaxy Nexus), and you'll have 4.4 nightlies.

XpLoDWilD said:
No maintainer has a Galaxy Nexus. Give us a Galaxy Nexus (or find a maintainer with a Galaxy Nexus), and you'll have 4.4 nightlies.
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Ahhh but does that totally rule out Omni for Gnex?
In terms of the final 4.4 release?

qf19910623 said:
My galaxy nexus will continue running CyanogenMod for losing surport of OmniRom nightly build.
As CM11.0 is becoming more and more stable,I believe the nightly will coming soon.
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I'm horrified at how many gnex users whine about omni not having a maintainer... Let all the whiners go to CM, good riddance. If all of you gnex users put as much energy in learning to maintain your own device as you do complaining, you'd probably have a stable release by now.

King p1n said:
Ahhh but does that totally rule out Omni for Gnex?
In terms of the final 4.4 release?
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Blind development is impossible. The device won't be supported until someone from the community steps up and supports it.
There might be an existing maintainer with some spare bandwidth to support one of the gnex variants if provided a device - I personally don't have the time for it.
karendar said:
I'm horrified at how many gnex users whine about omni not having a maintainer... Let all the whiners go to CM, good riddance. If all of you gnex users put as much energy in learning to maintain your own device as you do complaining, you'd probably have a stable release by now.
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Yup. The best way to get a device supported is to work in it yourself!

Entropy512 said:
Yup. The best way to get a device supported is to work in it yourself!
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... or donate one to a developer.
I personally never understood all these demands to ROM developers. It's not like we're paying them to do it and support it or anything. Must be the new entitlement generation... (Generation E, if you will).

rodrigorajao said:
... or donate one to a developer.
I personally never understood all these demands to ROM developers. It's not like we're paying them to do it and support it or anything. Must be the new entitlement generation... (Generation E, if you will).
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People learning a new skill is by far the better way IMO.
By donating devices to someone, you:
1) Potentially eliminate the opportunity for someone else to do the bringup and gain skills
2) Potentially cause that developer to burn out in the long run - that is why I personally won't be taking on any additional devices for quite a while. I'm spread way too thin as it is.

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karendar said:
I'm horrified at how many gnex users whine about omni not having a maintainer... Let all the whiners go to CM, good riddance. If all of you gnex users put as much energy in learning to maintain your own device as you do complaining, you'd probably have a stable release by now.
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u know one thing that all the developers who know how to develop the roms never help newbies...
i have personally asked how to integrate the custom kernel source to the android source code...nobody helped..
even i asked that person who created that kernel and builds rom using that kernel...so how u expect from us to maintain our own devices...
i m sick of these persons who donot share knowledge...

anurag.dev1512 said:
u know one thing that all the developers who know how to develop the roms never help newbies...
i have personally asked how to integrate the custom kernel source to the android source code...nobody helped..
even i asked that person who created that kernel and builds rom using that kernel...so how u expect from us to maintain our own devices...
i m sick of these persons who donot share knowledge...
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Google is ur friend my dear friend.. There are several tutorials that would help u to help build kernels n roms from source...

anurag.dev1512 said:
u know one thing that all the developers who know how to develop the roms never help newbies...
i have personally asked how to integrate the custom kernel source to the android source code...nobody helped..
even i asked that person who created that kernel and builds rom using that kernel...so how u expect from us to maintain our own devices...
i m sick of these persons who donot share knowledge...
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How do you think we learned ROM development?

anurag.dev1512 said:
u know one thing that all the developers who know how to develop the roms never help newbies...
i have personally asked how to integrate the custom kernel source to the android source code...nobody helped..
even i asked that person who created that kernel and builds rom using that kernel...so how u expect from us to maintain our own devices...
i m sick of these persons who donot share knowledge...
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And I'm sick of people being lazy, so...
If developers on here took the time to help every newbie out there, they wouldn't have any time to do what they do FOR FREE. Yes, you read that right. FREE. The real devs don't ask for donations. The real devs do this on their spare time, out of sheer devotion to the device and the technology. Not because some guy in the boondocks is requesting a feature or a bug fix. They all learned the hard way and SOME do give their time... And their knowledge. They just do it in a strategic way: By documenting on knowledgebases, wikis, articles, forums, etc.
So learn to google, learn to search, learn to learn. That's the TRUE spirit of XDA right there... Not what some of the forums are becoming: Harassment from impatient users who want it all right now for nothing. No offense intended, but "newbs" are only newbs because they choose to be. All the necessary information is out there. And if it's not, and you can show a proper breadcrumb of what you've done to get there, some dev somewhere can see the effort and help out. MAYBE.
Now if you'll excuse me, I have to repo sync.
BAM.

karendar said:
And I'm sick of people being lazy, so...
If developers on here took the time to help every newbie out there, they wouldn't have any time to do what they do FOR FREE. Yes, you read that right. FREE. The real devs don't ask for donations. The real devs do this on their spare time, out of sheer devotion to the device and the technology. Not because some guy in the boondocks is requesting a feature or a bug fix. They all learned the hard way and SOME do give their time... And their knowledge. They just do it in a strategic way: By documenting on knowledgebases, wikis, articles, forums, etc.
So learn to google, learn to search, learn to learn. That's the TRUE spirit of XDA right there... Not what some of the forums are becoming: Harassment from impatient users who want it all right now for nothing. No offense intended, but "newbs" are only newbs because they choose to be. All the necessary information is out there. And if it's not, and you can show a proper breadcrumb of what you've done to get there, some dev somewhere can see the effort and help out. MAYBE.
Now if you'll excuse me, I have to repo sync.
BAM.
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I've answered tons of questions in IRC... I've documented as much as I can why particular changes are made. However, there's a category of questions that fall into "handholding" because they're easily Googleable, or they are related to skills which can't be easily taught - they can only be learned by doing.
The problem is that every device is different, and the things you need to do in order to get one working are different for every device. If someone has a weird issue and a really esoteric log entry, then it's valid to ask if anyone has seen something similar (although you should Google first).
Learning to be a device maintainer is a long and difficult and frustrating process. Even if you're very experienced and familiar with Android, it requires immense amounts of patience and tons of time reading source code and reading through commit logs. There's no easy step-by-step recipe - it's all about developing troubleshooting and analysis skills, and those are best learned by doing.
Now there are some developers who do a poor job of documenting things - commit messages that are completely uninformative, unrelated changes made in a single commit, etc. - Most contributors to our gerrit know that such practices are a good way to get a -1 from me. (See my sig for a link to some general good practices...)

just listen....
tilal6991 said:
How do you think we learned ROM development?
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i m not asking for help...
i m just trying to show the true face of senior developers...thats all...
first read my reply i havent mentioned that i need help in rom development...i just told the things happened with me...
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karendar said:
And I'm sick of people being lazy, so...
If developers on here took the time to help every newbie out there, they wouldn't have any time to do what they do FOR FREE. Yes, you read that right. FREE. The real devs don't ask for donations. The real devs do this on their spare time, out of sheer devotion to the device and the technology. Not because some guy in the boondocks is requesting a feature or a bug fix. They all learned the hard way and SOME do give their time... And their knowledge. They just do it in a strategic way: By documenting on knowledgebases, wikis, articles, forums, etc.
So learn to google, learn to search, learn to learn. That's the TRUE spirit of XDA right there... Not what some of the forums are becoming: Harassment from impatient users who want it all right now for nothing. No offense intended, but "newbs" are only newbs because they choose to be. All the necessary information is out there. And if it's not, and you can show a proper breadcrumb of what you've done to get there, some dev somewhere can see the effort and help out. MAYBE.
Now if you'll excuse me, I have to repo sync.
BAM.
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i m not asking for help...
i m just trying to show the true face of senior developers...thats all...
first read my reply i havent mentioned that i need help in rom development...i just told the things happened with me...

Entropy512 said:
I've answered tons of questions in IRC... I've documented as much as I can why particular changes are made. However, there's a category of questions that fall into "handholding" because they're easily Googleable, or they are related to skills which can't be easily taught - they can only be learned by doing.
The problem is that every device is different, and the things you need to do in order to get one working are different for every device. If someone has a weird issue and a really esoteric log entry, then it's valid to ask if anyone has seen something similar (although you should Google first).
Learning to be a device maintainer is a long and difficult and frustrating process. Even if you're very experienced and familiar with Android, it requires immense amounts of patience and tons of time reading source code and reading through commit logs. There's no easy step-by-step recipe - it's all about developing troubleshooting and analysis skills, and those are best learned by doing.
Now there are some developers who do a poor job of documenting things - commit messages that are completely uninformative, unrelated changes made in a single commit, etc. - Most contributors to our gerrit know that such practices are a good way to get a -1 from me. (See my sig for a link to some general good practices...)
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Honestly Entropy, you're one of the developers which I love following in the forums. Your interventions are always informative, you've got a great logic and even though sometimes you can be quite prompt in your way of answering, it's always justified. I have no doubt that you've helped many people and I'm sure your approach is always a "teach a man to fish" approach. I respect you very much, as I do other developers of similar nature, and I felt you should know this. Keep up the good work, and I look forward to reading other post from you.
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anurag.dev1512 said:
i m not asking for help...
i m just trying to show the true face of senior developers...thats all...
first read my reply i havent mentioned that i need help in rom development...i just told the things happened with me...
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You haven't taken the time to read what I've written. Don't generalize and re-read what I've said and what Entropy said...
This is the last intervention I'll do on this thread, as the point is now moot.

ya i know..
karendar said:
Honestly Entropy, you're one of the developers which I love following in the forums. Your interventions are always informative, you've got a great logic and even though sometimes you can be quite prompt in your way of answering, it's always justified. I have no doubt that you've helped many people and I'm sure your approach is always a "teach a man to fish" approach. I respect you very much, as I do other developers of similar nature, and I felt you should know this. Keep up the good work, and I look forward to reading other post from you.
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You haven't taken the time to read what I've written. Don't generalize and re-read what I've said and what Entropy said...
This is the last intervention I'll do on this thread, as the point is now moot.
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its really hard to see your true self...

anurag.dev1512 said:
i m not asking for help...
i m just trying to show the true face of senior developers...thats all...
first read my reply i havent mentioned that i need help in rom development...i just told the things happened with me...
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i m not asking for help...
i m just trying to show the true face of senior developers...thats all...
first read my reply i havent mentioned that i need help in rom development...i just told the things happened with me...
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anurag.dev1512 said:
u know one thing that all the developers who know how to develop the roms never help newbies...
i have personally asked how to integrate the custom kernel source to the android source code...nobody helped..
even i asked that person who created that kernel and builds rom using that kernel...so how u expect from us to maintain our own devices...
i m sick of these persons who donot share knowledge...
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I'm not a dev, but I would think statements like this really discourage them.
I do have a GNex that I haven't had luck selling. Was thinking about donating to Omni devs since they don't seem to have one. However, am having second thoughts if it makes it seem like people who whine and complain get what they want because they whine and complain.
@ Devs: PM me if you are interested in me sending a Verizon GNex to you for ROM development.

anurag.dev1512 said:
its really hard to see your true self...
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Truer words have never been spoken.
Now please discontinue your whine, women & song and leave.

ROM for our beloved S5

If you like Roms, then go and check out his development for S5 G900f. It's really great! !
I hope, it's okay to advertise this here.
Regards
Mod Edit: No its not, they left XDA so to respect their wishes we won't allow XDA to be used to drive traffic to their site.

Already using it, SUPER ROM!!!!!
Using this rom for some time now and its super stable no laggs long battery life

Can I ask who told you this LIE??
Pls tell me its not a moderator again..pls i really hope we are not stooping to this level...
Echoe Development left xda because of the way i was being treated by the hierarchy..
but this is not the place or a subject that should be of anyone's business...
pls tell me who told you this lie though..
After people have been proven to kang my roms on the S4..
in case this gets deleted, which prob will, please find me and tell who told you this LIE please

friedrich420 said:
CAN I ASK WHO TOLD YOU THIS LIE??
Pls tell me its not a moderator again..
Echoe Development left xda because of the way i was being treated by the hierarchy..
pls tell me who told you this lie though..
After people have been proven to kang my roms on the S4..
in case this gets deleted, which prob will, please find me and tell me if a moderator told you this lie...
because a couple of them have been saying this ABSOLUTE LIE to users and they are still here free to bully people around..
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Im not telling thats its true, i always used your roms on my s4 and now on my s5, but ive seen it on your kernel in the special thanks thingy
And i dont believe that you steal things, have seen your roms and looking at the code you've done everything yourself.
But all your roms left xda?
Btw, im trying to log in on your forum using tapatalk but it dont load at all or must i continue using the browser version?

Hey friedrich, always loved your ROM when I was using S4. I didn't knew you're still cooking...good to know because I got a S5 now and will flash some bliss to it

Sock12345 said:
Im not telling thats its true, i always used your roms on my s4 and now on my s5, but ive seen it on your kernel in the special thanks thingy
Not gonna post the an image dont want you to be banned again..
But all your roms left xda?
Btw, im trying to log in on your forum using tapatalk but it dont load at all or must i continue using the browser version?
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my friend i never said you claimed this..
but in order for you to say this, it means someone is spreading that NASTY RUMOR!!
And i think its only fair to me to know who is spreading these lies...
We shouldnt continue with this.. i cannot talk about my development here or about anything non-xda related.... the only reason i posted is because i was informed that there was a post about me supposedly leaving xda because of stealing...
just one question to the moderator spreading these vicious lies: how can i steal when in anything i develop I ALWAYS (and i mean ALWAYS!!) release first??
i prefer we talk about this via pm's..

friedrich420 said:
my friend i never said you claimed this..
but in order for you to say this, it means someone is spreading that NASTY RUMOR!!
And i think its only fair to me to know who is spreading these lies...
We shouldnt continue with this.. i cannot talk about my development here or about anything non-xda related.... the only reason i posted is because i was informed that there was a post about me supposedly leaving xda because of stealing...
just one question? how can i steal when in anything i develop I ALWAYS (and i mean ALWAYS!!) release first??
i prefer we talk about this via pm's..
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Alright ill pm you

@friedrich420
What with G900i variant? It would be really really nice to install your ROM in G900i devices...
Do you plan develop your great ROM to this device?
Thanks in advance!!!
Best regards!

friedrich420 said:
my friend i never said you claimed this..
but in order for you to say this, it means someone is spreading that NASTY RUMOR!!
And i think its only fair to me to know who is spreading these lies...
We shouldnt continue with this.. i cannot talk about my development here or about anything non-xda related.... the only reason i posted is because i was informed that there was a post about me supposedly leaving xda because of stealing...
just one question to the moderator spreading these vicious lies: how can i steal when in anything i develop I ALWAYS (and i mean ALWAYS!!) release first??
i prefer we talk about this via pm's..
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Tried to send second pm but your box seems to be full

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malybru
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Android O

Remember Android N CyanogenMod Beta? Let's create another one for Android O! I loved those times. If I was a developer, I would have started it already :crying: but I'm not, so I'm asking others...

michel sedgh said:
Remember Android N CyanogenMod Beta? Let's create another one for Android O! I loved those times. If I was a developer, I would have started it already :crying: but I'm not, so I'm asking others...
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can you please stop posting such useless crap?
we all know that Android O is out, so wait till you get the first custom roms ..

The image just released and it certainly will take quite some time for developers to complie a custom ROM.

Moderators really need to step up their game to remove these worthless posts...
FYI: YOU are the person that demotivates devs with all these captain obvious questions and whines about ETA's. Congratulations on only making it take longer.
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michel sedgh said:
Remember Android N CyanogenMod Beta? Let's create another one for Android O! I loved those times. If I was a developer, I would have started it already :crying: but I'm not, so I'm asking others...
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It's never too late to become a developer. When you have a problem, do you always wait expecting someone fixing it for you ? I hope not. Don't waste your time crying and waiting, nobody was born as a developer. Start learning now, you'll know already a lot before Android O is released on your phone.

paultje162 said:
Moderators really need to step up their game to remove these worthless posts...
FYI: YOU are the person that demotivates devs with all these captain obvious questions and whines about ETA's. Congratulations on only making it take longer.
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I would think such things would motivate developers. "Wow the community wants this quicker, I'm gonna show them I'm capable" something like that lol

I don't see anything wrong with a thread to discuss the upcoming roms. It's cool

justin654 said:
I would think such things would motivate developers. "Wow the community wants this quicker, I'm gonna show them I'm capable" something like that lol
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No not even close really. See here is something many users dont understand. Developers dont make things for them (ok some glory hounds do but those people are normally complete idiots) Developers make the roms for themselves and decide to share it. Why do you think most teams do not support a device they dont own? Developers have no desire to prove anything really. To be honest, the real developers are some of the most anti-social people you will ever meet. This is the reason most dont even bother posting. They use other people as their voice.
As for fast. Well you can get something fast or you can get something done right. Considering there are no blobs or kernel source for this device anything that does come out before 1+ releases their update will be nothing more then a cheap hack.

This thread doesn't look to have a forseeable direction, This thread is now closed.