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Worth posting a no-phone edition of Sense4 port?

Sense4 is released here
my youtube recording of it here

Is this a ROM or just a theme? I mean, is it possible for us without 4X developer edition to get this aswell?

rimatox said:
Is this a ROM or just a theme? I mean, is it possible for us without 4X developer edition to get this aswell?
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did you watch the youtube? does it look like a theme?, all widgets looks accurate?
this is Sense4 for OneX i used. and yes, its possible, OneX and o4x is hardware wise pretty similar on cpu/gfx chipset. rest is different but can be fixed i believe.

Sounds great. Just thought the locked bootloader could be a problem for this but you've just made a flashable launcher, am I right? And btw I would very much appreciate if you released this.

rimatox said:
Sounds great. Just thought the locked bootloader could be a problem for this but you've just made a flashable launcher, am I right? And btw I would very much appreciate if you released this.
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Sense4 is not a flashable launcher, but the complete rom, since Sense is integrated into all the framework of ICS and android, so you cannot run widgets or apps without having the sense core framework and native libraries associated.
but i will make it a flashable zip through CWM, if decision is to do it.

Sounds like a great idea. Yes, I think this would be highly helpful as then we have a base to work with. How much work in your opinion would it be to get it to work with phone?

Noooooooo, please don't quit with this phone. I am losing my faith that we will ever have anything else than the stock rom

XperiaPlayer said:
Sounds like a great idea. Yes, I think this would be highly helpful as then we have a base to work with. How much work in your opinion would it be to get it to work with phone?
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personally i believe its a though one. functionality in the framework (telephony) needs to be ported into the htc framework, or vice versa if possible.
but the radio someone seems similar , but honestly i am not technical radio expert, but they share the 6260 radio name on htc as well, maybe a nvidia radio compatibility thing.

Its not a case of putting the LG ril files in the HTC framework is it?

Good Job Dexter_nlb!!!!
You bring light in this phone.Never leave the work in this phone please.Thanks!!!
This community is little, and you have experience in roms.

XperiaPlayer said:
Its not a case of putting the LG ril files in the HTC framework is it?
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i was told it was that simple on the GSIII port, which seemed to die, although they claimed to have phone working
but here its not that simple. i try to follow the logs with "logcat -b radio" and you do see its being setup with lge-ril.so , but then telephony framework seems to identify it as cdma and other calls to framework fails.
i believe some lge services are required to utilize the functions fully.

Hmm, I will deffianetly have a look if and when you release it

Well it definitely seems smmother running on O4X thatn it does on the HOX. So dear friend, can you share with us the zip and see what we can do with it?

Maybe kholk could continue this when he unlock the bootloader?
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reas0n said:
Maybe kholk could continue this when he unlock the bootloader?
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unlocking bootloader does not resolve the modem driver needed to be compiled and Integrated without the security checks they put into it, and that the driver needs to handle the modem different from previous models.
but the backup got lost since the device was delivered to another person with the sdcard erased and backup was on it
i do not believe another pc backup exists, sorry.

Dexter_nlb said:
unlocking bootloader does not resolve the modem driver needed to be compiled and Integrated without the security checks they put into it, and that the driver needs to handle the modem different from previous models.
but the backup got lost since the device was delivered to another person with the sdcard erased and backup was on it
i do not believe another pc backup exists, sorry.
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So you left the O4X scene mate? Little as it is?

Feregorn said:
So you left the O4X scene mate? Little as it is?
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yes, that happened already when my GnoteII arrived, i really prefer that one over o4x, coming from HTC flyer with scribe functions as well and the 5.5" display i like soo much now

^I can understand you mate. GNote2 is a great device and right open for experimentation from the get-go...I was considering it but the sheer size of it, is simply beyond my willingness to suffer carrying it in a handbag! I always demand for my devices to fit in my pocket no matter the slimness and that's the final deciding factor for me.

i might get a chance to rebuild my htc build (4.0.4 edition), it seems camera+wifi+bt works , but audio is now an issue.
ill keep this thread updated, if i get more progress. I probably need to return the o4x soon.
and no, HTC JB 4.1.2 is not possible , as we havent got any updated camera,audio,wifi libs to support the changes, so porting is impossible.

That's way better than nothing, mate. Thanks for your efforts, I'm interested in trying it out.
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[Q] Will the specialized hardware (camera, mics) pose problems for ROMs?

I'm wondering it some of the very specialized hardware will pose problems for developing cutom ROMs for the HTC One. Especially for AOSP ROMs.
The camera has image stabilization, the special ultrapixel sensor, the Zoe imaging style. Do these things rely on specialized software that would not be in AOSP ROMs?
The mics use a special dual membrane desgin for filtering noise, based on differing sensitivity of each membrane in each mic. Again, is this all hardware based functionality? Or would the noise filtering not work effectively in an AOSP ROM with AOSP kernel?
Thanks for any thoughts from people with knowledge of these things.

the camera will be worse on AOSP than on Sense as Sense has the closed source driver for the image chip.
Zoe etc will be not in AOSP ROMs and ultrapixel sensor should work though.
Mics will be working as well if we get some good devs.

Okay, so the ultrapixel sensor will work (low light photography, etc.) as advertised? But Zoe is an issue because basically it's a software protocol for capturing images and sharing them in a particular fashion?
And the dual-membrane mics will depend on the software in the ROM, but should be doable? I wouldn't want to lose all that potential improvement to in call audio quality.
I'm just interested in this question and any other hardware functionality that might be effected by ROMs, because the One seems like a device where the conceptualization of the hardware is much more integrated with the software that ships with it, than has been the case on other devices.
In the end, I guess I'm just not a fan of Sense (although the new version looks like a big improvement), but I usually like HTC's hardware. But I wouldn't want to lose any of the functionality of the great hardware but flashing a different ROM.

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cb474 said:
Okay, so the ultrapixel sensor will work (low light photography, etc.) as advertised? But Zoe is an issue because basically it's a software protocol for capturing images and sharing them in a particular fashion?
And the dual-membrane mics will depend on the software in the ROM, but should be doable? I wouldn't want to lose all that potential improvement to in call audio quality.
I'm just interested in this question and any other hardware functionality that might be effected by ROMs, because the One seems like a device where the conceptualization of the hardware is much more integrated with the software that ships with it, than has been the case on other devices.
In the end, I guess I'm just not a fan of Sense (although the new version looks like a big improvement), but I usually like HTC's hardware. But I wouldn't want to lose any of the functionality of the great hardware but flashing a different ROM.
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Well I am not a dev and we don't have any kind of source code of the kernel etc. But the basic camera should work although it will be harder to fix than on other devices. Zoe is simply a software which works only with sense framework as the rest of the sense features do.
Yes micro should be doable as well although it will take some time for sure to fix that by a dev. Expect early sense roms soon but don't expect aosp roms very soon to be working perfectly.
Let's see how it turns out to be when the device is released and some devs get their hands on
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jonas2295 said:
Expect early sense roms soon but don't expect aosp roms very soon to be working perfectly.
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Yeah, that's what I figured. Thanks for your thoughts.
I guess I can save my pennies while waiting for AOSP ROMs to go stable. At least this is such a desirable phone and it will be on almost all carriers, so I'm hoping it will attract a lot of devs.

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cb474 said:
Yeah, that's what I figured. Thanks for your thoughts.
I guess I can save my pennies while waiting for AOSP ROMs to go stable. At least this is such a desirable phone and it will be on almost all carriers, so I'm hoping it will attract a lot of devs.
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You are welcome :00
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[Q] CM and hardware stuffs on the one

i was wondering about CM on the one. i dont currently see any roms out to check on this, but will it be able to use the image stability in sense camera? not to worried about the zoey thing, but what about that? also what are they going to do with the hardware/software buttons? thanks for any info of ppl who already have the phone!

madLyfe said:
i was wondering about CM on the one. i dont currently see any roms out to check on this, but will it be able to use the image stability in sense camera? not to worried about the zoey thing, but what about that? also what are they going to do with the hardware/software buttons? thanks for any info of ppl who already have the phone!
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I think all the drivers will be ok, good that it's a Qualcomm and not a tegra chip

aosp vs sense camera

It's the sense camera really that much better then the cm/aosp camera? Opinions?

Sense will be that much better cos it interacts with ImageSense and has software to make full use of it. AOSP will have to create their own drivers to make the camera work at all. Should AOSP ever produce super awesome camera drivers, then I would expect it to at least match the Sense camera

As of right now Sense camera destroys AOSP camera, due to software.

Syn Ack said:
As of right now Sense camera destroys AOSP camera, due to software.
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Yes I just went back to a sense Rom because of it. was really just wondering some of your opinions. I've heard from some that there's really not that much of a difference but it's pretty easily noticed.well hopefully they'll release a pure Google version and we'll be able to steal the drivers from that.

chriselmore said:
Yes I just went back to a sense Rom because of it. was really just wondering some of your opinions. I've heard from some that there's really not that much of a difference but it's pretty easily noticed.well hopefully they'll release a pure Google version and we'll be able to steal the drivers from that.
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A pure Google version would probably only have basic drivers to ImageSense. If the device supports ImageSense, that means the drivers will have to go open sourced as well. Not sure how much HTC wants that to happen though.

Sense camera is better then AOSP camera.
Not for the zoe etc, but for the software and the ui

[Q] IR Blaster support in AOKP or AOSP roms

Hey guys,
I'm looking to get away from Sense if possible, but I've found that the IR blaster app is pretty useful, so I don't want to leave it out.
Are there any AOKP or AOSP roms out that have support for the IR blaster, either through the stock HTC TV app, or otherwise? If not, are there any plans to incorporate something into the future versions?

There are currently no AOSP based ROM's that support the IR blaster (I believe due to lack of drivers).
However, when we get our hands on the "Nexus experience" ROM that HTC intends to release, it will very likely have the proper drivers which can be ported to all the AOSP based ROM's (since it'll essentially be an AOSP ROM).
So keep your eyes open, because who knows when it'll happen, but it's not too far off.

Gamesoul Master said:
There are currently no AOSP based ROM's that support the IR blaster (I believe due to lack of drivers).
However, when we get our hands on the "Nexus experience" ROM that HTC intends to release, it will very likely have the proper drivers which can be ported to all the AOSP based ROM's (since it'll essentially be an AOSP ROM).
So keep your eyes open, because who knows when it'll happen, but it's not too far off.
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that is pretty much what im waiting for and deciding if ill switch over to ASOP. Hoping the "google edition" has beats zoe filters/mods (doesnt need actual zoe).

kazemitsui said:
that is pretty much what im waiting for and deciding if ill switch over to ASOP. Hoping the "google edition" has beats zoe filters/mods (doesnt need actual zoe).
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zoe and beats will still be present..read up a bit..

Its gonna have beats (wont be present in notification bar and probably wont be in settings) and it'll have a good camera, not sure about all the features though.
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hello00 said:
zoe and beats will still be present..read up a bit..
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someone said no zoe, you say yes zoe, sources please and i already knew about beats. i just want to.. read up a bit..

kazemitsui said:
someone said no zoe, you say yes zoe, sources please and i already knew about beats. i just want to.. read up a bit..
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here

hello00 said:
here
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first link said no zoe. i would like your source, kind sir that said yes to zoe

Thanks! I'm going to hold off from flashing anything for the moment.
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