I recently loaded Philz Kernel and also rooted my Galaxy Note.
I would like to return to it being not rooted so that Sky Go will work. I have tried a number of changes to regain the not rooted status but without success.
I would like to keep Philz Kernel for the ease of use of it.
I am now being prompted to install JB (which I have tried before but without great success - problem with the bluetooth in my car not detecting contacts) - if I let the stock OTA JB install will I then return to being not rooted?
After using stock OTA JB will Philz kernel still be present or will it have also been replaced,
Ideally I would like to have stock JB and Philz kernel but I dont know if these are mutually exclusive.
I apologise if these are very basic questions to which I should know the answer.
First: check in what forum you posted your question.
Second: There is no 50:50 solution: rooted or not rooted, that is the question.
Third: so you have to decide: SkyGo and you stay on official unrooted JB - or - root and don't use SkyGo.
if you use OTA for JB it will unroot and you will loose Philz kernel.. there is JB kernel by Phil too.. Use the unroot option in SuperSu App to unroot and see if SkyGo works.. this way you will not have root but still Philz kernel will be there.
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Beware sky go will need removal of root and apps that require root. You may even have to flash the stock rom and kernal again for it to work.
I have had loads of issues with it
Sky confirmed to me that the app checks for modified kernal, root, and apps that need root on boot. Doesnt say that in the permissions does it!
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Hi all
If I root a SGS with some kernel (JVT CF or voodoo for example) and then flash again stock kernel, will I retain this root or I'll come back to an unrooted system?
Thanks!
My understanding is that you will be back to non rooted
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CalabiYau said:
Hi all
If I root a SGS with some kernel (JVT CF or voodoo for example) and then flash again stock kernel, will I retain this root or I'll come back to an unrooted system?
Thanks!
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No,root will stay butt you will not have any advanced option that comes with root.
Only stock kernel with root.
if you make rooting, as is.... when u return to stock kernel,it will be unrooted...
This is what i'm talking about.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1205564&highlight=insecure+kernels
Try this.
From that thread:
You can use these files to return to the stock kernel if you wish, you will still be rooted but adb will not be running as root on first login via shell.
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No,root will stay butt you will not have any advanced option that comes with root.
Only stock kernel with root.
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I upgraded to stock 2.3.3 and lost root- the superuser icon was there but apps requiring root eg TiB, would not be granted superuser permissions so effectively unrooted.
re-rooted it easily enough though.
doktorV said:
I upgraded to stock 2.3.3 and lost root- the superuser icon was there but apps requiring root eg TiB, would not be granted superuser permissions so effectively unrooted.
re-rooted it easily enough though.
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I'm gonna try this first time a had time.I will flash stock jvt on semaphore kernel.
yup i 4got to mentioned that,if you will root your device,its better to stick to your version.
Hi all,
I have a notification from AT&T that I can now update my Froyo Captivate to Gingerbread.
I am currently rooted (Even if rooted, I am not using any custom roms.. and I don't seem to need any.. I am happy with what has come with Cappy. I rooted it just to sideload the apps as it comes disabled in Froyo by default)
My question is: If I use the Kies and update my Cappy to gingerbread, will I be able to sideload the apps as I do it now?
As I am rooted, will it create any problem updating it to gingerbread using Kies?
I just updated to gingerbread yesterday using kies mini, and after I did the "Allow Installation from non-Market Sources" was visible. I think thats all you need for sideloading. You will lose the Root, but like you said you don't need it.
I'm not sure if beeing rooted will affect kies, I was on a custom rom so I used a oneclick back to stock and then kies
thanks t-roth for the response. How is your experience with new stock GB?
Does anyone knows if I am rooted, I can directly go to the Stock Captivate GB using the Kies Mini
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Does anyone knows if I am rooted, I can directly go to the Stock Captivate GB using the Kies Mini
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If your rooted phone can connect to Kies, you can install the update.
Thanks Bruce. I will try that out..
Probably the last question. Am I going to see huge performance change moving from Froyo to GB?
I was rooted and Kies had no issue with my phone being so. It left me root-less after the fact, and I felt naked. The number one reason you SHOULD want to be rooted is to get rid of the freaking still-born garbage AT&T thinks we should endorse and like. As far as actual side-loading...I was unable to get the Sideload Wonder Machine to work. But I didn't sweat it because I quickly sought Root. Some of the more powerful utilities require root, but for the casual user, you probably won't want to be messing about in system folders anyway.
You say you "quickly sought root", but did you find it. I tried the 2.3.5 upgrade and as noted it left me able to load non-market apps ok but I was root-less. I haven't been able to root the KK4 upgrade and since I live and die with my Root Explorer and TI Backup I NEED the root. Z4 Root wouldn't work and neither would any of the 3 versions of Super 1-Click that I have (1.6.5, 2.1.1 & 2.3.1). If you were successful, what did you use?
I think it depends on how you enabled the side loading of apps. I'm not on the official gingerbread but that's what I think.
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use the newest version of super 1 click root.. duh.
or look up the fugu mod root method. odin flash fugu root kernel, let it bootloop once, then odin flash your stock kernel again... or a cwm based kernel for your android version (kk4)
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use the newest version of super 1 click root.. duh.
or look up the fugu mod root method. odin flash fugu root kernel, let it bootloop once, then odin flash your stock kernel again... or a cwm based kernel for your android version (kk4)
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I used SQLite editor when I was first rooted.
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hello guys
I confirm i'm confused now and don't know how to do.
when the first ROM of ICS went out (LPY) i was so excited that i'm flashed it but i can't use the phone cause the battery can stay for one day even 5 hours.
after rezding several (concerning the brick bug) I went back to gb (following this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1535025&highlight=direct+dl) through mobile odin and the phone is working.
Now there is a plenty of ICS ROM LPY,LP9 etc etc.
I want know to back (to the future) to ICS but still afraid of this brick but.
Can someone tell me how is possible to move to ICS ?
One more question can we mix pda phone modem from different rom
what brick are you talking about? the only bug im aware that causes brick is the one on cf root and CWM backing up and restoring... you can safely flash isc trough odin and it will work just fine
Thank for your quick reply
Correct me if i'm wrong (very newbie on android and sgn) I just have to download one of the ics Rom (N7000XX###) and flash it without cwm and root option cause right now i have cwm and root.
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You can use "Mobile ODIN to flash keeping Ever root and Inject Super user checked" or "use CWM to flash and select CF-root kernel" to keep root and SU intact with the new ROM.
Try any of the safe custom ROMs. PA, Asylum etc.. They are allow awesome but nothing beats PA for me. Once you use AOSP, you would never wanna go back. They are much much much better than the crappy stock GB-looking ICS.
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Okay Guys, I have read thread after thread but I'm still unsure on a few things and would really appreciate some straight answers here:
My fiance has a Samsung Galaxy Note GT-N7000 with the following:
Android Version: 4.0.4
Baseband Version: N7000XXLRK
Kernel Version: 3.0.15-N7000XXLRK-CL811902
Build Number: IMM76D.XXLRK
Now I'm not really sure if we need to root the phone or not, all she really wants is:
1) Custom themes (different unlock sliders ect)
2) More customizing apps like SPB Shell 3D
3) Better Battery Life
From what I understand in order to get noticably longer battery life and UI customization you need custom ROMs with optimized code, but I could be wrong.
I would would also like to be able to Overclock the CPU but then thats just me being a bloke
So heres the Questions:
1) There are now One-Click rooting batch file that reduce the risk of end user mistakes Soft/Hard bricking the Phone
Q1) Is this the part that is unsafe? or is it just flashing custom ROMs which is unsafe?
Q2) Should I use CWM to flash ROMs / Recovery / Wipe as in some threads thats the advice and in others you get DO NOT wipe in recovery
DO NOT flash anything else in recovery
In general, DO NOT use recovery at all
Q3) Is there a way of installing Custom unlock sliders and SPB Shell 3D without having to root the phone? I've heard you need DroidWall to block Wifi and Data so the app doesnt call home, but that this requires the phone to be rooted first?
Im really sorry for all the stupid questions but hopefully somebody can clear things up for me.
Thanks
For installing themes and apps,you need not do any rooting
There are many third party apps to install in play store
For lock screen themes,try go locker,magic locker or milocker
And spb shell can be installed without getting rooted
If you are interested in rooting and flashing custom roms,then first flash a safe kernel(like hydracore) and then flash custom rom through cwm recovery
Dont do any wipe on stock kernel,it may brick your phone
So if you are still interested in rooting,simply flash hydracore kernel through pc odin
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A1; wiping from stock recovery if ics is unsafe.
A2; cwm is used to flash roms
A3; spb shell doesn't require root. Droidwall is like a firewall. it works on iptables. so it needs root.
If u root u can customize ur phone to gr8 extent
# message swifted from Note, travelled in the air to gateway and wi-maxed to [email protected] #
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Okay Guys, I have read thread after thread but I'm still unsure on a few things and would really appreciate some straight answers here:
My fiance has a Samsung Galaxy Note GT-N7000 with the following:
Android Version: 4.0.4
Baseband Version: N7000XXLRK
Kernel Version: 3.0.15-N7000XXLRK-CL811902
Build Number: IMM76D.XXLRK
Now I'm not really sure if we need to root the phone or not, all she really wants is:
1) Custom themes (different unlock sliders ect)
2) More customizing apps like SPB Shell 3D
3) Better Battery Life
From what I understand in order to get noticably longer battery life and UI customization you need custom ROMs with optimized code, but I could be wrong.
I would would also like to be able to Overclock the CPU but then thats just me being a bloke
So heres the Questions:
1) There are now One-Click rooting batch file that reduce the risk of end user mistakes Soft/Hard bricking the Phone
Q1) Is this the part that is unsafe? or is it just flashing custom ROMs which is unsafe?
Q2) Should I use CWM to flash ROMs / Recovery / Wipe as in some threads thats the advice and in others you get DO NOT wipe in recovery
DO NOT flash anything else in recovery
In general, DO NOT use recovery at all
Q3) Is there a way of installing Custom unlock sliders and SPB Shell 3D without having to root the phone? I've heard you need DroidWall to block Wifi and Data so the app doesnt call home, but that this requires the phone to be rooted first?
Im really sorry for all the stupid questions but hopefully somebody can clear things up for me.
Thanks
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Rooting is no problem. The cause of brick, as mention by others is the wiping under stock kernel.
Just install the philz modded stock rom, u will get a safe stock kernel + root + cwm.
Or if u want just follow dr. Ketan thread on rooting.
Anyway, try not to use one rooting.
I m not sure whether can work or not, but my last reading base on the search i found, it can't be use for ics. U may correct me if i m wrong.
Best if u want simple rooting nd safe kernel, just flash philz.
And yes if u want to flash custom rom u can only do in cwm.
U cannot flash it under stock recovery.
Good luck!
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Hi @all,
i'm new here kind of confused too about rooting my N7000....
Could somebody please post or link an easy and safe method for rooting the N7000 with ICS 4.0.4???
Only root is needed, no kernel or rom etc...
Thanks a lot!!
Have a look here:
PhilZ stock kernel rooted / safe kernel and safe recovery
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=31911656
Can be flashed in stock recovery 3e.
And here is a tutorial how to root/unroot by Dr.Ketan
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=18978158
Thanks a lot! Dr. Ketan seems to be exact what i was looking for!!! :laugh::good:
For installing themes and apps,you need not do any rooting
There are many third party apps to install in play store
For lock screen themes,try go locker,magic locker or milocker
And spb shell can be installed without getting rooted
If you are interested in rooting and flashing custom roms,then first flash a safe kernel(like hydracore) and then flash custom rom through cwm recovery
Dont do any wipe on stock kernel,it may brick your phone
So if you are still interested in rooting,simply flash hydracore kernel through pc odin
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First Off.... Thankyou a million! I never knew about the apps for theming in the Play Store, the Mrs is more than happy with her new Pink UI and iLike Lock theme...
I've Only tried Go locker so far but so far so good!!!
So let me get this straight, Wiping your phone using the stock wiping utility provided with the phone on the standard Sumsung supplied Kernal is unsafe???
A1; wiping from stock recovery if ics is unsafe.
A2; cwm is used to flash roms
A3; spb shell doesn't require root. Droidwall is like a firewall. it works on iptables. so it needs root.
If u root u can customize ur phone to gr8 extent
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So CWM is an alternative recovery method which is used for flashing Custom Roms, simply enough.
Can you just explain what you mean by customizing your phone to a great extent? what else can be done?
Rooting is no problem. The cause of brick, as mention by others is the wiping under stock kernel.
Just install the philz modded stock rom, u will get a safe stock kernel + root + cwm.
Or if u want just follow dr. Ketan thread on rooting.
Anyway, try not to use one rooting.
I m not sure whether can work or not, but my last reading base on the search i found, it can't be use for ics. U may correct me if i m wrong.
Best if u want simple rooting nd safe kernel, just flash philz.
And yes if u want to flash custom rom u can only do in cwm.
U cannot flash it under stock recovery.
Good luck!
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Okay so find correct Kernal version or Philz, flash using stock recovery method then ill have root and CWM???
With Philz can I still Overclock the CPU?
Have a look here:
PhilZ stock kernel rooted / safe kernel and safe recovery
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...php?p=31911656
Can be flashed in stock recovery 3e.
And here is a tutorial how to root/unroot by Dr.Ketan
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...php?p=18978158
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Thankyou very much for the direct links, very helpful indeed, now if I can find the "thankyou" button you'll all be getting my thanks!
Looks like you dont really need to root. Except for the overclocking (there goes your battery life
Make sure you get the kernel right. After that there isnt much that can go really wrong. Or just wait a while, Jelly Bean (an update for your operating system is) around the corner
What I ment was if I want SPB Shell for free without paying for it, I heard that you can use Droidwall to block its internet contecting so it doesnt get dectected and require payment?
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Oops... this is not the site for asking these kinda question.. its banned in here.. moderator rules u know :angel:
So let me get this straight, Wiping your phone using the stock wiping utility provided with the phone on the standard Sumsung supplied Kernal is unsafe???
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Yes N7000 running ICS stock rom with stock kernel .. wiping on them triggers the emmc erase command that corrupts the system. that y philz kernel is a stock kernel with the erase command disabled and u get root as well as CWM v6.0.1.4 latest. :good:
With Philz can I still Overclock the CPU?
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No Philz is a stock kernel so its just like that, for OC u need a kernel that supports it eg. Hydracore OC.
Can you just explain what you mean by customizing your phone to a great extent? what else can be done?
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Installing custom ROMs
Installing Mods like battery mod, call recording, full screen caller ID, 15 toggles, transparent notification . infact u can change the look of ur phone if u know how to tinkle with the System apks and frameworks. Mods mainly require u to access the system folder which is only available when u root.
go thru this thread
Good battery life from my N7000 began with the XXLRK. Succeeding builds XXLRQ and XXLRT performed just as well. Therefore do not expect much battery life improvements until your wife changes her phone habits.
I am using Paranoid Utaka now. Even with low cpu settings things are the same with batt life. I believe this has already reached design limits.
Hey guys, sorry its been a long time since my last reply, the Mrs has been so happy using her galaxy note with the new themes/loaders that I haven't needed too ask for more assistance......until now!
To cut a long story short I have a two year old soon who often uses this now to doodle on some of the drawing apps and somehow he removed the apps icon which launces the app tray, and the Mrs was always complaining that she kept getting popups with invites from women on dating websites, (again probably the boy when he's frantically jabbing the screen when he's drawing)
So anyway we wanted to wipe the phone back to its factory settings and I remembered you guys saying it was unsafe to wipe from stock ICS so I've flashed Phiz latest Kernal with touch recovery mode.
I now want to install some custom roms as I'm feeling adventurous however I've been reading lots of conflicting info in the threads on here, some saying flash back to GB rom first or you'll brick your note
And others saying that flashing back to Gb roms are the cause of the bricks!!!
Now I've already made a backup in philz recovery, but do i need to flash back to GB or not in order to instsll paranoid Android?
Also any other rooms you guts can recommend? Are there any stock jelly beans roms yet?
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Yes lots of stock leaks jb roms like Xxlsa and xxlsc. No need to go back to gb just make sure you on a safe kernel. That's it
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Yes lots of stock leaks jb roms like Xxlsa and xxlsc. No need to go back to gb just make sure you on a safe kernel. That's it
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Cheers man, just finished flashing the ultimate JB rom and its awesome, thanks again to everybody who has helped me out through this whole process.
Hi
The wife's Note is presently on stock rooted ICS running a custom kernel (can't remember which one of the top of my head). I want to update it to JB, but want to go down the path of least resistance (i.e. avoiding having to reinstall all the apps, etc).
I guess the first question is, can I update via OTA or KIES?
I presume if I update via OTA or KIES (I have an updated rom notification on OTA) I will loose root (even if I use OTA Rootkeeper?) and the custom kernel (reverting back to stock kernel).
FYI - not really fussed about re-rooting as wife doesn't really need to seem to need a rooted phone.
Thanks in advance!
If rooted with a custom kernel the OTA updates won't work.
Make a complete backup in recovery of the note
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download one of the no-wipe, rooted Custom Roms and install it.
Thanks. I think I may do a total unrooted of stock JB.
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Thanks. I think I may do a total unrooted of stock JB.
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Not really necessary. I repeat. Make a backup and use a no-wipe JB Custom Rom (like my own) and try with this.
Hi
Just a quick follow up, can I flash stock JB via Odin rather than Kies and avoid a wipe?
Thinking Odin, as am having problems with Kies recognising the phone (MTP error).
Flash the JB with PC Odin.