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[Q] Do you need Root access to flash a kernal?

Do you need Root access to flash a kernal?

mull54 said:
Do you need Root access to flash a kernal?
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no not really although there are many benefits of rooting,
if you are flashing a kernal you seem to be in to the whole modding thing, why dont u root aswell ?

I had root before i Flashed the 2.2.1 JPY. And the Hardcore's kernal contains root i think.

mull54 said:
I had root before i Flashed the 2.2.1 JPY. And the Hardcore's kernal contains root i think.
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yes i have that kernal too, it roots in about 1 second, option to unroot as well. i like that kernal battery consumption is great, and speed is exceptional ( my opinion) i say go for it !!!!

Issue: Fugu Root Mod + GB 2.3.5 KK4

Hey guys, so I just recently updated my Cappy from 2.3.4 to 2.3.5 KK4 using a couple of the forums found here on XDA. Question, though:
I attempted to apply the Fugu Root Mod before flashing to 2.3.5. When flashed, it showed the red Fugu fish, and then bootlooped on me until I pulled the battery. After that, I flashed the 2.3.5 update. Apparently, Fugu has failed on part of my own error, because I don't have SU, BusyBox, or any of the Fugu mods, and the kernel in the phones "About" section shows "2.6.35.7-I897UCKK4-CL614489."
The question: I don't really care to give rooting another go, and I've discovered the "fugumod" folder in my SD's directory. Of course, the file tells me not to delete it, but is it safe to do so being that the root was not applied?
Thanks in advance!

Try installing SU app? At any rate I believe Corn kernel and samurai kernel have SU installer on cwm. I could be wrong but check it out

prbassplayer said:
Try installing SU app? At any rate I believe Corn kernel and samurai kernel have SU installer on cwm. I could be wrong but check it out
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Installed the SU app from the market, but Root Check Basic still reports that my phone isn't rooted. Is it safe to just delete the "fugumod" folder in my SD directory, or is it worth a shot at reflashing Fugu? I pretty much manually restored my phones contacts, apps, etc before I noticed root was missing (I wasn't rooted before) and don't want to risk losing all my data.
Like I said, I don't mind not having root, I just figured I'd throw Fugu in there since I was wiping and updating my phone anyway.

You can try it. Odd it didn't work first go. But like I said there are 2 KK4 kernels that offer (or might) SU installer with CWM and tweaks.

Any risk in bricking if I delete the "fugumod" folder? It's telling me within the file that my phone won't reboot if deleted...but I'm not even Fugu rooted in the first place!
EDIT: Hmm...I didn't notice a KK4 with an SU installer. Could you point me in the right direction?

I honestly don't know never deleted that folder... like ever lol.

Hahaha that's what I was trying to find out in the first place, though! If I don't need the folder, I don't want it on my phone.

Searching would have found your answer, but here it is.
After flashing the fugumod kernel, you did the right thing pulling the battery. That kernel isn't designed to boot completely, just give you root. Where you were wrong was flashing the whole update. You should have flashed just the kk4 kernel. Once rebooted, you have the stock, rooted ROM.

mrhaley30705 said:
Searching would have found your answer, but here it is.
After flashing the fugumod kernel, you did the right thing pulling the battery. That kernel isn't designed to boot completely, just give you root. Where you were wrong was flashing the whole update. You should have flashed just the kk4 kernel. Once rebooted, you have the stock, rooted ROM.
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Ahh, I see, thanks! So flashing the update removes the root, correct?
EDIT: Went ahead and just deleted the fugumod folder. No problems whatsoever, since I'm not rooted, of course.

Yomaster91 said:
Ahh, I see, thanks! So flashing the update removes the root, correct?
EDIT: Went ahead and just deleted the fugumod folder. No problems whatsoever, since I'm not rooted, of course.
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Yeah, reflashing the update will wipe out the root, as well a factory reset.

[Q] sideload apps for official gingerbread?

Hi all,
I have a notification from AT&T that I can now update my Froyo Captivate to Gingerbread.
I am currently rooted (Even if rooted, I am not using any custom roms.. and I don't seem to need any.. I am happy with what has come with Cappy. I rooted it just to sideload the apps as it comes disabled in Froyo by default)
My question is: If I use the Kies and update my Cappy to gingerbread, will I be able to sideload the apps as I do it now?
As I am rooted, will it create any problem updating it to gingerbread using Kies?

I just updated to gingerbread yesterday using kies mini, and after I did the "Allow Installation from non-Market Sources" was visible. I think thats all you need for sideloading. You will lose the Root, but like you said you don't need it.
I'm not sure if beeing rooted will affect kies, I was on a custom rom so I used a oneclick back to stock and then kies

thanks t-roth for the response. How is your experience with new stock GB?
Does anyone knows if I am rooted, I can directly go to the Stock Captivate GB using the Kies Mini

22andy2 said:
Does anyone knows if I am rooted, I can directly go to the Stock Captivate GB using the Kies Mini
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If your rooted phone can connect to Kies, you can install the update.

Thanks Bruce. I will try that out..
Probably the last question. Am I going to see huge performance change moving from Froyo to GB?

I was rooted and Kies had no issue with my phone being so. It left me root-less after the fact, and I felt naked. The number one reason you SHOULD want to be rooted is to get rid of the freaking still-born garbage AT&T thinks we should endorse and like. As far as actual side-loading...I was unable to get the Sideload Wonder Machine to work. But I didn't sweat it because I quickly sought Root. Some of the more powerful utilities require root, but for the casual user, you probably won't want to be messing about in system folders anyway.

You say you "quickly sought root", but did you find it. I tried the 2.3.5 upgrade and as noted it left me able to load non-market apps ok but I was root-less. I haven't been able to root the KK4 upgrade and since I live and die with my Root Explorer and TI Backup I NEED the root. Z4 Root wouldn't work and neither would any of the 3 versions of Super 1-Click that I have (1.6.5, 2.1.1 & 2.3.1). If you were successful, what did you use?

I think it depends on how you enabled the side loading of apps. I'm not on the official gingerbread but that's what I think.
Sent from my slSamsung Captivate on CM7!

use the newest version of super 1 click root.. duh.
or look up the fugu mod root method. odin flash fugu root kernel, let it bootloop once, then odin flash your stock kernel again... or a cwm based kernel for your android version (kk4)

TRusselo said:
use the newest version of super 1 click root.. duh.
or look up the fugu mod root method. odin flash fugu root kernel, let it bootloop once, then odin flash your stock kernel again... or a cwm based kernel for your android version (kk4)
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I used SQLite editor when I was first rooted.
Sent from my slSamsung Captivate on CM7!

Non-Rooted JB ROM

Hi guys,
Can anyone point me in the direction of a Jelly Bean ROM that is not rooted? I have no need to be rooted and my banking software will not run on a rooted ROM.
Thanks
BN

You can flash any jellybean rom and then unroot it

bluenova said:
Hi guys,
Can anyone point me in the direction of a Jelly Bean ROM that is not rooted? I have no need to be rooted and my banking software will not run on a rooted ROM.
Thanks
BN
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There's no official firmware yet. You can grab the leak in http://www.sammobile.com and flash it in Odin PC.

Thanks, was CyanogenMod not moving towards a non-root by standard with the option to root if you need to? Is the CM10 ROM rooted by default?

bluenova said:
Thanks, was CyanogenMod not moving towards a non-root by standard with the option to root if you need to? Is the CM10 ROM rooted by default?
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All custom roms comes rooted by default
You can unroot any rom if u wish

go to http://www.sammobile.com/firmware/?page=3&model=GT-N7000&pcode=-1&os=1&type=1#firmware and select your desired firmware, flash with odin

What rom that you use now?? is it rooted?? if yes..simply go to SuperSU app and click on Full unroot under setting option..easy:good:

zai89 said:
What rom that you use now?? is it rooted?? if yes..simply go to SuperSU app and click on Full unroot under setting option..easy:good:
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Currently on stock ICS. The reason I'm hesitant to install a rooted ROM and then unroot it is because I always had my HTC Hero on the latest rooted ROM (GB at the time) and when my bank released their app, try as I might to hide root or unroot I couldn't get past the message 'your phone is rooted, you cannot run this app'.
Why say you do you want to root then? Because I want JB :cyclops:

if you want jb, the there is a xxls2 unrooted in sammobile which can be installed via pc odin. just don't do any wipes on stock kernel as we don't know if it's 100 pct safe. but it's the unrooted jb rom, lacks features of multi windows. but you will have jb experience

That is very very easy.
You can flash LSA from SAMFIRMWARE or you can flash any JB rom and then..
Just open SuperSU and thengo to Options and then Full unroot...
Simple!

[Q] Philz Kernel - will it stay?

I recently loaded Philz Kernel and also rooted my Galaxy Note.
I would like to return to it being not rooted so that Sky Go will work. I have tried a number of changes to regain the not rooted status but without success.
I would like to keep Philz Kernel for the ease of use of it.
I am now being prompted to install JB (which I have tried before but without great success - problem with the bluetooth in my car not detecting contacts) - if I let the stock OTA JB install will I then return to being not rooted?
After using stock OTA JB will Philz kernel still be present or will it have also been replaced,
Ideally I would like to have stock JB and Philz kernel but I dont know if these are mutually exclusive.
I apologise if these are very basic questions to which I should know the answer.

First: check in what forum you posted your question.
Second: There is no 50:50 solution: rooted or not rooted, that is the question.
Third: so you have to decide: SkyGo and you stay on official unrooted JB - or - root and don't use SkyGo.

if you use OTA for JB it will unroot and you will loose Philz kernel.. there is JB kernel by Phil too.. Use the unroot option in SuperSu App to unroot and see if SkyGo works.. this way you will not have root but still Philz kernel will be there.

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Beware sky go will need removal of root and apps that require root. You may even have to flash the stock rom and kernal again for it to work.
I have had loads of issues with it
Sky confirmed to me that the app checks for modified kernal, root, and apps that need root on boot. Doesnt say that in the permissions does it!
Sent from my GT-N7000 using xda app-developers app