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Sony Xperia Z 4.2

http://www.latinospost.com/articles/9871/20130118/sony-xperia-z-release-date-rumors-android.htm
what do you guys think about it...shouldnt sony release the phone with 4.2 itself rather than providing an update?

"Should" is the right word here. 4.2 has been out for a long time, so it is very strange to release anything but 4.2 now in 2013.
Also some media (or Sony themselves) have said there's very little theming/customisation on the phone, so updates should be fast.
Again I still don't see how "fast" updates can come when it's not even released with the latest software.
But when I get the device cm will be applied withing minutes of owning the phone, so as long as they (cm) release something that works, the phone will run the latest android

Sony already stated 4.2 will be available "shortly after launch"
(source: sony official blog. I posted the link a couple of days ago)

gtrab said:
Sony already stated 4.2 will be available "shortly after launch"
(source: sony official blog. I posted the link a couple of days ago)
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gtrab,
You have been around long and you know there have been times Sony said something then changed it. I hope they start acting instead of talking. Sony has surely been improved since X10 era.

gtrab said:
Sony already stated 4.2 will be available "shortly after launch"
(source: sony official blog. I posted the link a couple of days ago)
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That's not good enough from Sony. Unless they aren't trying to compete in 2013 and just wanna make a quick buck.
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Nimche said:
gtrab,
You have been around long and you know there have been times Sony said something then changed it. I hope they start acting instead of talking. Sony has surely been improved since X10 era.
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Let's give sony a chance this time buddy. Even I did since they have a change in leadership(CEO) just now so things may change. :fingers-crossed:

Makes more sense to launch a phone on what you developed it on, than to just launch on a Rushed 4.2, 4.2 stock has bugs lol
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AntonyStark said:
Makes more sense to launch a phone on what you developed it on, than to just launch on a Rushed 4.2, 4.2 stock has bugs lol
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That's true but still, they have to optimize things with their own UI. Im pretty sure the M7 and the Galaxy S IV will launch with 4.2.
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barondebxl said:
That's true but still, they have to optimize things with their own UI. Im pretty sure the M7 and the Galaxy S IV will launch with 4.2.
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S4 isn't launched yet, n AFAIK , m7 has 4.1.2 too.
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AayushDhuria said:
S4 isn't launched yet
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Really?
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I'm pretty confident that the Xperia Z will be running 4.2 before the S4 hits the stores.

Ambroos said:
I'm pretty confident that the Xperia Z will be running 4.2 before the S4 hits the stores.
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That would be good too.
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Eddiemc said:
"Should" is the right word here. 4.2 has been out for a long time, so it is very strange to release anything but 4.2 now in 2013.
Also some media (or Sony themselves) have said there's very little theming/customisation on the phone, so updates should be fast.
Again I still don't see how "fast" updates can come when it's not even released with the latest software.
But when I get the device cm will be applied withing minutes of owning the phone, so as long as they (cm) release something that works, the phone will run the latest android
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what i meant to say was sony should release Z with 4.2. that is why i asked 'shoudnt they do it'

CnC-ROCK said:
what i meant to say was sony should release Z with 4.2. that is why i asked 'shoudnt they do it'
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Yes, no worries, I understood that. I also tried to say: I too think they should release it with 4.2
Also looking at their pre production phone, their software looks pretty bad, so I don't think it would matter with "buggy" 4.2 or the base they've been developing it on. Atm their base looks bad, so either they fix it in two months, or they rebase it om 4.2
The thing is that: this is their flagship phone, 4.2 has been out for a while, 2 months is still a long time, they have a lot of Sony devs, so I still don't see how releasing a flagship in 2013 with dated android is a wise choice.
This seems to be their standard though: dated android. They did this with the x10 or whatever it was called, and i won't be surprised if they do it again now. But hopefully the new management is improved and we'll se updates in timely matter. Also if they keep the community support up, it won't matter since it will have dev support

Nimche said:
gtrab,
You have been around long and you know there have been times Sony said something then changed it. I hope they start acting instead of talking. Sony has surely been improved since X10 era.
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XDA named Sony "2012 OEM of the year" for a reason, and that means a lot to me.
They are changing, listening, officialy unlocking bootloaders, sticking to their update pathway, helping the devs community a lot, etc.

I believe the release of 4.1.2 is a marketing strategy.
Releasing 4.1.2 as initial firmware core and updating it to 4.2 then the next generation of android would make it look like they'll be providing subsequent updates. While if they release 4.2 as an initial firmware and update it to next android soon that would only look like they provided a single update which would invoke another rant from users like
"Sony promised 18months of support yet they only released 1 OS update!!!"
"Sony only released 1 update on their flagship phone they just release a device and loses interest on it after sales."
So yeah... if they make the initial OS 4.1.2 then that would make it 2 major updates while if they release 4.2 as initial OS that would only make 1 major update.
Like the logic says... Any number greater than 1 = many. :angel:

barondebxl said:
That's true but still, they have to optimize things with their own UI. Im pretty sure the M7 and the Galaxy S IV will launch with 4.2.
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As it says by the time S4 launched Xperia Z will have 4.2.

CnC-ROCK said:
http://www.latinospost.com/articles/9871/20130118/sony-xperia-z-release-date-rumors-android.htm
what do you guys think about it...shouldnt sony release the phone with 4.2 itself rather than providing an update?
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The phone would have been in testing prior to 4.2's release... so early internal builds would have been based on 4.1.x anyway - so I can see why it's launching with 4.1. They would want to be on the ball with the 4.2 launch,,,, if it gets pushed back then people looking at buying this phone 3-6 months after launch are going to be wary about future updates.
M.

Eddiemc said:
"Should" is the right word here. 4.2 has been out for a long time, so it is very strange to release anything but 4.2 now in 2013.
Also some media (or Sony themselves) have said there's very little theming/customisation on the phone, so updates should be fast.
Again I still don't see how "fast" updates can come when it's not even released with the latest software.
But when I get the device cm will be applied withing minutes of owning the phone, so as long as they (cm) release something that works, the phone will run the latest android
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Why strange? Show me an example of another device other than a Nexus launching with 4.2 in the same timeframe?
Show me an example of a device other than a Nexus or the Transformer tablets getting ICS prior to March or so of 2012? Show me an example of one that got an update prior to April/May or so that wasn't an *utter epic steaming turd*? All of the Transformer tablets first ICS updates were poor, Galaxy S II ICS was a steaming pile of **** for months... Hell, if you've got a carrier branded device it STILL is...

Not to mention 4.2 is one of the more buggy releases from Google, are there any devices apart from Nexus devices officially running 4.2 yet?

Tx. V. T. Tl Android 5.0

Since Sony been releasing alot of devices and we still in begning of 2013 do you think that we going to be dropped like 2011 series or be delayed this long as xperia s users? Any idea or info for me im tottaly sure that our series was a flop for Sony uz they releasing a midrange series just few months after our series i dunno i just wanted a stable jellybean not buggy ics like what happened with last year flagship
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Well maybe Sony is planning a 5.0 release but is not saying anything for now.
We have good CPU and 1GB of RAM. We don't have 4 cores and 2GB. SGS III has 4 cores and 1GB RAM too and it will be updated to 5.0.
Samsung announced 5.0 for some of its Galaxy devices. Some of them will stay at 4.2.2 and some of them will be updated to 5.0 for sure.
We have to wait. Some of us just received 4.1.2 and it's still full of bugs and glitches. Let Sony fix these problems first and then think about the possibility of receiving the update to next version.

I am not sure what you mean by v5.0
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_version_history
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_version_history#Future_versions

Let me take my cristal ball :laugh:

romcio47 said:
Well maybe Sony is planning a 5.0 release but is not saying anything for now.
We have good CPU and 1GB of RAM. We don't have 4 cores and 2GB. SGS III has 4 cores and 1GB RAM too and it will be updated to 5.0.
Samsung announced 5.0 for some of its Galaxy devices. Some of them will stay at 4.2.2 and some of them will be updated to 5.0 for sure.
We have to wait. Some of us just received 4.1.2 and it's still full of bugs and glitches. Let Sony fix these problems first and then think about the possibility of receiving the update to next version.
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but peopl are saying thats the new android ver is COmming in aprox 3 months dont you think sony will be delayed so much maybe will have to leave our tx behind?
gregbradley said:
I am not sure what you mean by v5.0
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_version_history
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_version_history#Future_versions
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no thats not official yet but thats totaly 100% expecting and surely =) its KeylimePie
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Let me take my cristal ball :laugh:
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=D =D

Tinup93 said:
but peopl are saying thats the new android ver is COmming in aprox 3 months dont you think sony will be delayed so much maybe will have to leave our tx behind?
no thats not official yet but thats totaly 100% expecting and surely =) its KeylimePie
=D =D
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I'm saying this is too far fetched. We would never officially get 5.0. Sony if famous for releasing devices with outdated firmware. I mean the Z was released with 4.1 and still hasn't got 4.2. the GS3 got it on Feb. AFAIK
And currently that is their flagship. Not us
Also you can't blame Sony for their delayed releases because their firmware is so far away from pure AOSP. They do put a lot of work and themeing into it.

I hate those people proclaiming like Sony's CEO, that "Xperia T will never get Android 5.0" etc. This kind of bullcrap, one sided, motion, is pure nonsense and childish. Those people must be removed and banned from XDA.
And the Galaxy S3 did not receive the 4.2 update. Do not spread rumours to gain personal fame.

lee480 said:
I hate those people proclaiming like Sony's CEO, that "Xperia T will never get Android 5.0" etc. This kind of bullcrap, one sided, motion, is pure nonsense and childish. Those people must be removed and banned from XDA.
And the Galaxy S3 did not receive the 4.2 update. Do not spread rumours to gain personal fame.
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My sincere apologies for the s3 4.2 thing. My mistake. Regardless the Nexus 4 came out last November with 4.2. BUT sony released Z a month ago with only 4.1
And as for your other bull****. Try and get me banned will you? I am only being realistic. One sided? Buddy even I have Xperia T, so I'd love an update too

thedisturbedone said:
My sincere apologies for the s3 4.2 thing. My mistake. Regardless the Nexus 4 came out last November with 4.2. BUT sony released Z a month ago with only 4.1
And as for your other bull****. Try and get me banned will you? I am only being realistic. One sided? Buddy even I have Xperia T, so I'd love an update too
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Ok. Give any form of evidence, any, that points that Xperia T will not get Android 5.0.

lee480 said:
Ok. Give any form of evidence, any, that points that Xperia T will not get Android 5.0.
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None. But I know about Sony release cycles. Hence I am deducing. I do not like false hope. But since you are so keen about it.
Give any form of evidence, any, that points that Xperia T will get Android 5.0.
PS I am not challenging you or any ****. So chill

Tottaly agree with you disturpor
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Time to claim our 4.2.2 ?

Now that almost all Xperia's had their update I wonder why there's no plan from Sony to update our T to JB 4.2.2 ? I don't remember reading any info about an upgrade. No ETA, nothing and even a confirmation that it will be in future?
I won' t flood XperiaBlog like they did for S and Ion, but we should claim our due in Sony forum!
If anyone has infos that I missed...

S and Ion have 4.2? can't believe that and I'm too lazy to check.
as far as I know only ZU had jb, Z a leak (maybe now official but not long ago) and that's it.
first the newest flagships, then the older ones. so we should be next...
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Only Sony know
=)
If our phone ( T, TL, TX, V) doesn't have 4.2.2 firmware this year
I guess, I should leave from Sony
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But Sony is a good phone for me
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S and Ion have 4.2? can't believe that and I'm too lazy to check.
as far as I know only ZU had jb, Z a leak (maybe now official but not long ago) and that's it.
first the newest flagships, then the older ones. so we should be next...
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You miss a lot
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Xperia Z have official 4.2 firmware
http://www.sonymobile.com/global-en/software/phones/xperia-z/
Xperia S and Ion have upgrade to JB 4.1.2
Not 4.2.2

cmajetic said:
S and Ion have 4.2? can't believe that and I'm too lazy to check.
as far as I know only ZU had jb, Z a leak (maybe now official but not long ago) and that's it.
first the newest flagships, then the older ones. so we should be next...
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Ion and S never got 4.2.2. We don't need to get certifcation or leaks for a 4.2.2 update. We are probably the next but who knows. Sony could be making a update right now but nobody knows about it

I wrote maybe now it has official 4.2 but that's not long ago so what did I miss?
okay ZU and Z have 4.2 since 2 weeks or so, wow and you want to start complaining now?
4.1 is nice for S and Ion users but this has nothing to do with 4.2 for our T.
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Still, no love
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I guess Sony must focus on Xperia ZU project
After ZU release, maybe we will get 4.2.2
This is what I think it of
XD

I didn't say that all xperia's have 4.2.2. I just said that all devices have been upgraded to their respective latest software, no matter if it's 4.1.2 or 4.2.2.
So now it's time to claim support from Sony for XT, or at least a confirmation from Sony that it will be upgraded in a near future.

I'm guessing it'll be at the end of this year. Just speculation though

the time will come, just relax and be patience.:good:

I agree now that Sony has finished the 4.1.2 update cycle for its phone catalog and have now started the 4.2 update cycle ie. Z I do feel it is time for Sony to give us some information with regards to the next upgrade. I am not too fussed about when the update is coming, my device is running brilliantly and I havent read much relevant improvements in 4.2 or even the information about the leaked 4.3 update. I would jut like to know 'IF' the update is coming and what Sony features they will bring. ie Improved camera, Stamina mode, PS3 controller support etc. (all these could come in a 4.1.2 future update for all I care).

Actually, considering Sony is working with CM, we might get more than a camera

What is the deal with 4.2.2 anyway. Only the lockscreen? Why do you guys always complain that sony doesnt update. I understand if it was from 2.3 to 4.0. But its from 4.2 to 4.2 . Nothing is changed expect lockscreen. And toggles but for nexus devices. If sony rushed updates, your phones would lag just like nexus ones. Let them optimise...

They just complain about 4.2.2 slow update
Yeah, I see many Nexus user complain about memory leak in 4.2.2
XD

Skip 4.2.2, go to 5 directly, lol!
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Even if Sony is working on updates for Xperia T and gang, you guys will be probably get it sometime later. They still have Xperia L and Xperia SP to upgrade and mind you, both of them have different SOCs. But I confident Sony will upgrade Xperia T and gang. If you noticed, Sony now doesn't give timelines for Android 4.2 upgrade. It's just suddenly pop out for Xperia Z/ZL. Previously, Sony said JB 4.1 for Xperia P will come FROM the end of March. Unfortunately, Xperia P users refused to read English properly and assumed it's the "at the end of March" instead of the official "from the end of March", causing an unnecessary uproar.
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If Sony wants to keep from going bankrupt than they should make the customers happy no matter what or they just lose more money until the ps4 flops and doesn't hold them together and bankruptcy Sony.
Sony needs to get there **** strait and strive to be better than the rest of the phone manufacturers. Samsung is spanking them mainly because... they give out updates faster and in more of a timely manner than Sony.
If Sony truly wants to help CM they will release the code so the phones can run AOSP and not the ****ty Sony android software that's always extremely late.
Cheers

I prefer late but have more stabilty rather than fast update but cause many issue and bug

travis82 said:
If Sony wants to keep from going bankrupt than they should make the customers happy no matter what or they just lose more money until the ps4 flops and doesn't hold them together and bankruptcy Sony.
Sony needs to get there **** strait and strive to be better than the rest of the phone manufacturers. Samsung is spanking them mainly because... they give out updates faster and in more of a timely manner than Sony.
If Sony truly wants to help CM they will release the code so the phones can run AOSP and not the ****ty Sony android software that's always extremely late.
Cheers
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Lol. Don't worry. Sony profited Q4 in their financial year, though I must point out they disposed some of their fixed assets. PS4 isn't a flop, and their financial, music, entertainment, gaming and insurance branch is making money. I must point, most consumers DON'T CARE about Android upgrades. Most only upgrade only when their phone tells them too. It's only this little community in XDA, that will go mad about it. Sony sold more smartphone than HTC, Nokia and Motorola already and recently broke into Europe's top three. So don't worry. Even if Sony abandons the whole Xperia T range (unlikely), their sales will not be affected at all.
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Lets see how many phones have 4.2
The obvious Nexus ones. Check
Latest Samsung.. GS4. Check
Latest HTC. Htc ONE. Check
Latest Sony. Xperia Z. Check
Any other phone yet ? Nope.
Any phone released before or same time as T/V/TX got 4.2 ? Nope
So what is the frikin' problem guys ? You are not being deprived of anything. Z/ZL has got 4.2. ZR, Tab Z etc are next, and right after that T/V/TX will get. So just chill.

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Lets see how many phones have 4.2
The obvious Nexus ones. Check
Latest Samsung.. GS4. Check
Latest HTC. Htc ONE. Check
Latest Sony. Xperia Z. Check
Any other phone yet ? Nope.
Any phone released before or same time as T/V/TX got 4.2 ? Nope
So what is the frikin' problem guys ? You are not being deprived of anything. Z/ZL has got 4.2. ZR, Tab Z etc are next, and right after that T/V/TX will get. So just chill.
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EXACTLY. Even the extremely popular SAMSUNG S3 doesn't even have 4.2 yet.
Its not a Sony issue. ALL manufacturers of phones are slow at releasing updates.
The advantage to Sony is it is becoming well known in the communities is the QUALITY of the software running on Sony devices is much much better than the other companies.
At the end of the day it is the quality and not the latest bells and whisltes that matters. As I have said before Android has slowed down and not really brought anything new to the table since 4.1 which we are currently on the advancments have been in what Sony have bolted into the setup.

Android 4.3 or 4.4

Does anybody know which major firmware update we will be receiving next and when?
Sony seems to be awfully quiet lately regarding their update schedule.
With 4.4 on the horizon it's unfortunate the Z1 shipped with 4.2 instead of 4.3 but it wouldn't be so bad if Sony at least gave us a rough estimate.

ssj_jaypee said:
Does anybody know which major firmware update we will be receiving next and when?
Sony seems to be awfully quiet lately regarding their update schedule.
With 4.4 on the horizon it's unfortunate the Z1 shipped with 4.2 instead of 4.3 but it wouldn't be so bad if Sony at least gave us a rough estimate.
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They will probably update it to 4.3, and after it to 4.4
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I remember reading somewhere that they are saying 4.3 would roll out in October. But I am not sure where and how accurate is this

Knowing Sony smartphones for years, i'd say there will be a really late 4,3 update as promished, and after that the phone will not get any more updates...
Also look at my answer later in this topic

Hi ssj_jaypee,
Your thread has been moved from Xperia Z1 General to Xperia Z1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting. Please post in the correct sub-forum in future.
--wedgess

FFS, these threads normally start after a lot longer than this. The phone has not even been released in some parts of the world yet... Give them time
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there is a major update on the way as reported on xperiablog - the last 4 digits are changing which usually indicates something more than a bug fix but not likely 4.3
http://www.xperiablog.net/2013/09/25/new-xperia-z1-update-on-the-horizon-14-1-g-2-213/

Geoffxx said:
there is a major update on the way as reported on xperiablog - the last 4 digits are changing which usually indicates something more than a bug fix but not likely 4.3
http://www.xperiablog.net/2013/09/25/new-xperia-z1-update-on-the-horizon-14-1-g-2-213/
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I'm not to sure about this update... This 1 rumour came up and nothing has been seen about it ever since.. I personally would take it with a pinch of salt for now!

The question is IF there will be a major update from Sony for the Z1 after 4.3...
And the answer is "most definitely not!"
Don´t get me wrong, i love all my sony phones, but the updates is allways missing.
Sony has released new phones many times before with an older android installed at shipping date, and then made the promished "major update" after that, to the newest current version a month or two later... This way Sony is fulfilling Goggles demands about at least two major versions, without actually giving the customer anything new at all...
Nothing new in that, just look at Sony history...
IF Sony on the other hand SHOULD decide to release 4.4 down the road, it will definitely be without keyfeatures like sony camera features and so on...
Look at the history...
Just go back and read it, start eg. with the Xperia X10...
WHEN you buy a Sony phone, you have to understand that the promished firmware is ALL you will ever get, and that Sony WILL abandon all updates faster than you can count to 10...
(So only small bug-fixing can be expected after 4.3 for the Z1)
At first it looks like Sony is working hard to put out a working current Andriod version for the phone, but they are not... absolutly not !
Just sit for 2 sec. and think about this:
WHY would Sony at all ship a brand new phone, with an older Android version installed at shipping date ?
Would Sony not have to do just as mutch work to put out the older 4.2.2, as they have to if they decided to put out 4.3 from the shipping date ?
The ONLY difference is that IF they shipped with 4.3 then they had to update to 4.4 also to fullfill Googles demands, but with 4.2.2 as shipping firmware, and a fast update to 4.3, they don´t...
This Sony-scam is ONLY to fullfil Googles demands, nothing else...
Owner of Xperia X10i, X10mini, X10 mini Pro, Ray, S, T, V and Z1.

pshdo said:
The question is IF there will be a major update from Sony for the Z1 after 4.3...
And the answer is "most definitely not!"
Don´t get me wrong, i love all my sony phones, but the updates is allways missing.
Sony has released new phones many times before with an older android installed at shipping date, and then made the promished "major update" after that, to the newest current version a month or two later... This way Sony is fulfilling Goggles demands about at least two major versions, without actually giving the customer anything new at all...
Nothing new in that, just look at Sony history...
IF Sony on the other hand SHOULD decide to release 4.4 down the road, it will definitely be without keyfeatures like sony camera features and so on...
Look at the history...
Just go back and read it, start eg. with the Xperia X10...
WHEN you buy a Sony phone, you have to understand that the promished firmware is ALL you will ever get, and that Sony WILL abandon all updates faster than you can count to 10...
(So only small bug-fixing can be expected after 4.3 for the Z1)
At first it looks like Sony is working hard to put out a working current Andriod version for the phone, but they are not... absolutly not !
Just sit for 2 sec. and think about this:
WHY would Sony at all ship a brand new phone, with an older Android version installed at shipping date ?
Would Sony not have to do just as mutch work to put out the older 4.2.2, as they have to if they decided to put out 4.3 from the shipping date ?
The ONLY difference is that IF they shipped with 4.3 then they had to update to 4.4 also to fullfill Googles demands, but with 4.2.2 as shipping firmware, and a fast update to 4.3, they don´t...
This Sony-scam is ONLY to fullfil Googles demands, nothing else...
Owner of Xperia X10i, X10mini, X10 mini Pro, Ray, S, T, V and Z1.
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All these issues are fixed with custom roms yes? Official releases don't matter anymore then?
Also, will they atleast release a big update for the camera, other bugs and unlocked bootloader issue?

pshdo said:
The question is IF there will be a major update from Sony for the Z1 after 4.3...
And the answer is "most definitely not!"
Don´t get me wrong, i love all my sony phones, but the updates is allways missing.
Sony has released new phones many times before with an older android installed at shipping date, and then made the promished "major update" after that, to the newest current version a month or two later... This way Sony is fulfilling Goggles demands about at least two major versions, without actually giving the customer anything new at all...
Nothing new in that, just look at Sony history...
IF Sony on the other hand SHOULD decide to release 4.4 down the road, it will definitely be without keyfeatures like sony camera features and so on...
Look at the history...
Just go back and read it, start eg. with the Xperia X10...
WHEN you buy a Sony phone, you have to understand that the promished firmware is ALL you will ever get, and that Sony WILL abandon all updates faster than you can count to 10...
(So only small bug-fixing can be expected after 4.3 for the Z1)
At first it looks like Sony is working hard to put out a working current Andriod version for the phone, but they are not... absolutly not !
Just sit for 2 sec. and think about this:
WHY would Sony at all ship a brand new phone, with an older Android version installed at shipping date ?
Would Sony not have to do just as mutch work to put out the older 4.2.2, as they have to if they decided to put out 4.3 from the shipping date ?
The ONLY difference is that IF they shipped with 4.3 then they had to update to 4.4 also to fullfill Googles demands, but with 4.2.2 as shipping firmware, and a fast update to 4.3, they don´t...
This Sony-scam is ONLY to fullfil Googles demands, nothing else...
Owner of Xperia X10i, X10mini, X10 mini Pro, Ray, S, T, V and Z1.
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I'm not to bothered about this to be honest, maybe they can change but we have a Snapdragon 800 and Qualcomm actually release their sources (cough Samsung cough) so Cyanogenmod performance will be like awesomeness, I have my concerns regarding the camera's future with Sony being to stuck up to release the sources.

TheCraig said:
I'm not to bothered about this to be honest, maybe they can change but we have a Snapdragon 800 and Qualcomm actually release their sources (cough Samsung cough) so Cyanogenmod performance will be like awesomeness, I have my concerns regarding the camera's future with Sony being to stuck up to release the sources.
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whats the best way to update z1.ie OTA or SONY COMPANION. thanks for any reply.

All these issues are fixed with custom roms yes? Official releases don't matter anymore then?
Also, will they atleast release a big update for the camera, other bugs and unlocked bootloader issue?
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I'm not to bothered about this to be honest, maybe they can change but we have a Snapdragon 800 and Qualcomm actually release their sources (cough Samsung cough) so Cyanogenmod performance will be like awesomeness, I have my concerns regarding the camera's future with Sony being to stuck up to release the sources.
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Ok then, i did read the question as if it was a question for official firmware, not custum roms...
- and my answer was becource of that, minded on the official SONY firmwares...
Custom firmwares is a whole other matter, and mutch harder to guess anything about yet...
- THAT only depend on how many people who buy this phone, and who of the devs here at XDA will work with it...
You need attention from a fantastic dev to get unofficial firmware flying...
BTW:
the history shows that Sony have NOT been fantastic releasing sorces before, so don´t count on it, but keep your fingers crossed...
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joecool666 said:
whats the best way to update z1.ie OTA or SONY COMPANION. thanks for any reply.
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I have allways used OTA for all that can be done that way...
The phone say to you when it is a big update, and you need PCcompanion (or in the old days SEUS).

Android L on Xperia Z

Is that possible to have android L on our xperia Z Really look forward to that

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Is that possible to have android L on our xperia Z Really look forward to that
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yes,wait the release for the developer & they will build it.
But it is still a developer preview

L's only two versions away. I'm sure we'll get a port or a CM rom sooner or later.

If any developer that I know of from Xperia Z, it will definitely be @pabx first to release Android L.
He was the first to bring KitKat over to Z in just a matter of days. In fact, it was not with some unusable build either. A full usable rom for daily driver.

Android L = Awesome Xperia Z !
Yes..!!!:good::good:
I totally agree with Android L being ported to Xperia Z....!!! It's much better than any software till now...
Here are the reasons;
Key Features:
Improved Notifications
Project Volta: Improved Battery Life (Needed for Xperia Z, due to battery drain issue in Kit Kat)
Google Fit...Competition for Apple's Healthkit
Better Web Integration
Runs on ART extension , (support for 64bit systems), (Dalvik is being ditched).
Since RAM usage will be less, and apps usage and loading time will be faster...
So lets wait for CM, PAC, Carbon...or some other developer till then...
Cheers...

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Yes..!!!:good::good:
I totally agree with Android L being ported to Xperia Z....!!! It's much better than any software till now...
Here are the reasons;
Key Features:
Improved Notifications
Project Volta: Improved Battery Life (Needed for Xperia Z, due to battery drain issue in Kit Kat)
Google Fit...Competition for Apple's Healthkit
Better Web Integration
Runs on ART extension , (support for 64bit systems), (Dalvik is being ditched).
Since RAM usage will be less, and apps usage and loading time will be faster...
So lets wait for CM, PAC, Carbon...or some other developer till then...
Cheers...
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But the image still not online

Check the videos in Google I/O.. They gave a brief peek on Android L...
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http://youtu.be/y9ue7TNpxS0 Looks so nice

Not impressed with it so far.
Auto Rotate toggle? Already on my stock 4.4.2
Adaptive Brightness? Already in all versions of Android.
Those are just two things I picked up on....
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But the image still not online
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and a built in flash player
Xperia™ Z (C6602) with tapatalk

I don't think that Sony will release an official build for the Z..

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I don't think that Sony will release an official build for the Z..
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Screw Sony then, we would get then unofficial ported ROM or sth. 'going to unlock my BL due this. I'd like to get this ROM

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Screw Sony then, we would get then unofficial ported ROM or sth. 'going to unlock my BL due this. I'd like to get this ROM
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Same here. Going to unlock my bootloader if the Rom has been released.

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Screw Sony then, we would get then unofficial ported ROM or sth. 'going to unlock my BL due this. I'd like to get this ROM
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I don't expect Sony to update Xperia Z to 5.0 - we will probably hear "you already received 3 updates, that's it folks".
IMO it shouldn't be about how many versions you receive - it should be about a timeframe. If your phone doesn't receive updates after 1,5 years, then maybe you should stop making new phones every 6 months if you can't manage to update them - and look at other companies like HTC, Samsung ( yes... ) or perhaps Apple who offers iOS8 to a 4,5 years old iPhone 4S.
Does my post sound like I'm angry with Sony ? Good, because I am...
KitKat was a disappointment. Been waiting almost a year and received nearly no new features apart from UI redesign which doesn't really matter to me anyway and tons of bugs, battery woes etc. To be honest - every single release had some kind of problems, especially with battery life...

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I don't expect Sony to update Xperia Z to 5.0 - we will probably hear "you already received 3 updates, that's it folks".
IMO it shouldn't be about how many versions you receive - it should be about a timeframe. If your phone doesn't receive updates after 1,5 years, then maybe you should stop making new phones every 6 months if you can't manage to update them - and look at other companies like HTC, Samsung ( yes... ) or perhaps Apple who offers iOS8 to a 4,5 years old iPhone 4S.
Does my post sound like I'm angry with Sony ? Good, because I am...
KitKat was a disappointment. Been waiting almost a year and received nearly no new features apart from UI redesign which doesn't really matter to me anyway and tons of bugs, battery woes etc. To be honest - every single release had some kind of problems, especially with battery life...
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KitKat's battery drain was not Sony's fault however. It was Google and Google Services, as with a previous version I cannot recall. Those kind of things are out of their reach since it varies from phone to phone with its version. I do agree however that there are some "kinks" that need to be remedied. I cannot understand why they refuse to unify most builds so they run similar applications. Like for example the stock KitKat apps (like Messaging and Settings) on my Z are totally different from Z2's stock apps running KitKat

Selling my phone right away if they announce the Z won't be updated to Android L.

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Selling my phone right away if they announce the Z won't be updated to Android L.
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Do it! you think that somebody of us will beg you to stop? or sony CEO will appear and give you android 100?
Just stop complaining kid, if you have enought money for an other phone just to have a better toy to play with, feel free and buy it, we don't care. And in 6 months you will complain again for a new update that roll out, and with a new Brand that won't provide it to you.
I bought xperia Z because I was fine on how it was, it had everything i needed and I liked it. Why you bought it if you have to cry? Or yo mean it was good until something new came out? that is so illogical. stop looking to the neighbour's grass and just be happy whit what you have.

Akiainavas said:
I don't expect Sony to update Xperia Z to 5.0 - we will probably hear "you already received 3 updates, that's it folks".
IMO it shouldn't be about how many versions you receive - it should be about a timeframe. If your phone doesn't receive updates after 1,5 years, then maybe you should stop making new phones every 6 months if you can't manage to update them - and look at other companies like HTC, Samsung ( yes... ) or perhaps Apple who offers iOS8 to a 4,5 years old iPhone 4S.
Does my post sound like I'm angry with Sony ? Good, because I am...
KitKat was a disappointment. Been waiting almost a year and received nearly no new features apart from UI redesign which doesn't really matter to me anyway and tons of bugs, battery woes etc. To be honest - every single release had some kind of problems, especially with battery life...
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Maybe it is all on purpose. Bugs, bugs and bugs but redesign UI and everybody is happy at the moment they upgrade it's firmware. And than, bitterness strike.
Maybe Sony wanna make XZ more and more buggy so it's users can look forward to Z2 or Z3, because XZ is still very capable of doing practically anything and is still strong and better phone than most 2014 mid-rangers and all Xperia non-Z models.
Yesterday I compared for couple of hours Z2 on 4.4.2 with my XZ 4.4.2. UI Smoothness is basically the same. WiFi/3G surfing the same, talk quality the same. Photo and 1080 video quality has very small improvement on XZ2. OK, sound quality, battery and screen are way better, but for common users like me, transition to XZ2 is freaking waste of money, except for battery duration. I switched in May 2013 form HTC Desire to Xperia Z and that cost me 100 EUR. Now, July 2014, transition form XZ to XZ2 would cost me 250 EUR. For what? Better AnTuTu benchmark score

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Maybe it is all on purpose. Bugs, bugs and bugs but redesign UI and everybody is happy at the moment they upgrade it's firmware. And than, bitterness strike.
Maybe Sony wanna make XZ more and more buggy so it's users can look forward to Z2 or Z3, because XZ is still very capable of doing practically anything and is still strong and better phone than most 2014 mid-rangers and all Xperia non-Z models.
Yesterday I compared for couple of hours Z2 on 4.4.2 with my XZ 4.4.2. UI Smoothness is basically the same. WiFi/3G surfing the same, talk quality the same. Photo and 1080 video quality has very small improvement on XZ2. OK, sound quality, battery and screen are way better, but for common users like me, transition to XZ2 is freaking waste of money, except for battery duration. I switched in May 2013 form HTC Desire to Xperia Z and that cost me 100 EUR. Now, July 2014, transition form XZ to XZ2 would cost me 250 EUR. For what? Better AnTuTu benchmark score
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Then you should get the g3 ? I think the g3 is a better upgrade than the z2 . Different ui , higher res , bigger screen but smaller size than the z2 . Getting a z2 or z1 for upgrade is like getting a slightly bigger screen size with more power .

deniel said:
Do it! you think that somebody of us will beg you to stop? or sony CEO will appear and give you android 100?
Just stop complaining kid, if you have enought money for an other phone just to have a better toy to play with, feel free and buy it, we don't care. And in 6 months you will complain again for a new update that roll out, and with a new Brand that won't provide it to you.
I bought xperia Z because I was fine on how it was, it had everything i needed and I liked it. Why you bought it if you have to cry? Or yo mean it was good until something new came out? that is so illogical. stop looking to the neighbour's grass and just be happy whit what you have.
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... how was that a complaint? I am simply stating I am selling it if they announce the exclusion in their update roadmap. How you come up with all these impressions of me being a whiner is beyond me. I do have money to buy any phone really but I don't mind keeping the Z a little longer.