Now that almost all Xperia's had their update I wonder why there's no plan from Sony to update our T to JB 4.2.2 ? I don't remember reading any info about an upgrade. No ETA, nothing and even a confirmation that it will be in future?
I won' t flood XperiaBlog like they did for S and Ion, but we should claim our due in Sony forum!
If anyone has infos that I missed...
S and Ion have 4.2? can't believe that and I'm too lazy to check.
as far as I know only ZU had jb, Z a leak (maybe now official but not long ago) and that's it.
first the newest flagships, then the older ones. so we should be next...
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If our phone ( T, TL, TX, V) doesn't have 4.2.2 firmware this year
I guess, I should leave from Sony
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But Sony is a good phone for me
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S and Ion have 4.2? can't believe that and I'm too lazy to check.
as far as I know only ZU had jb, Z a leak (maybe now official but not long ago) and that's it.
first the newest flagships, then the older ones. so we should be next...
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Xperia Z have official 4.2 firmware
http://www.sonymobile.com/global-en/software/phones/xperia-z/
Xperia S and Ion have upgrade to JB 4.1.2
Not 4.2.2
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S and Ion have 4.2? can't believe that and I'm too lazy to check.
as far as I know only ZU had jb, Z a leak (maybe now official but not long ago) and that's it.
first the newest flagships, then the older ones. so we should be next...
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Ion and S never got 4.2.2. We don't need to get certifcation or leaks for a 4.2.2 update. We are probably the next but who knows. Sony could be making a update right now but nobody knows about it
I wrote maybe now it has official 4.2 but that's not long ago so what did I miss?
okay ZU and Z have 4.2 since 2 weeks or so, wow and you want to start complaining now?
4.1 is nice for S and Ion users but this has nothing to do with 4.2 for our T.
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I guess Sony must focus on Xperia ZU project
After ZU release, maybe we will get 4.2.2
This is what I think it of
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I didn't say that all xperia's have 4.2.2. I just said that all devices have been upgraded to their respective latest software, no matter if it's 4.1.2 or 4.2.2.
So now it's time to claim support from Sony for XT, or at least a confirmation from Sony that it will be upgraded in a near future.
I'm guessing it'll be at the end of this year. Just speculation though
the time will come, just relax and be patience.:good:
I agree now that Sony has finished the 4.1.2 update cycle for its phone catalog and have now started the 4.2 update cycle ie. Z I do feel it is time for Sony to give us some information with regards to the next upgrade. I am not too fussed about when the update is coming, my device is running brilliantly and I havent read much relevant improvements in 4.2 or even the information about the leaked 4.3 update. I would jut like to know 'IF' the update is coming and what Sony features they will bring. ie Improved camera, Stamina mode, PS3 controller support etc. (all these could come in a 4.1.2 future update for all I care).
Actually, considering Sony is working with CM, we might get more than a camera
What is the deal with 4.2.2 anyway. Only the lockscreen? Why do you guys always complain that sony doesnt update. I understand if it was from 2.3 to 4.0. But its from 4.2 to 4.2 . Nothing is changed expect lockscreen. And toggles but for nexus devices. If sony rushed updates, your phones would lag just like nexus ones. Let them optimise...
They just complain about 4.2.2 slow update
Yeah, I see many Nexus user complain about memory leak in 4.2.2
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Skip 4.2.2, go to 5 directly, lol!
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Even if Sony is working on updates for Xperia T and gang, you guys will be probably get it sometime later. They still have Xperia L and Xperia SP to upgrade and mind you, both of them have different SOCs. But I confident Sony will upgrade Xperia T and gang. If you noticed, Sony now doesn't give timelines for Android 4.2 upgrade. It's just suddenly pop out for Xperia Z/ZL. Previously, Sony said JB 4.1 for Xperia P will come FROM the end of March. Unfortunately, Xperia P users refused to read English properly and assumed it's the "at the end of March" instead of the official "from the end of March", causing an unnecessary uproar.
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If Sony wants to keep from going bankrupt than they should make the customers happy no matter what or they just lose more money until the ps4 flops and doesn't hold them together and bankruptcy Sony.
Sony needs to get there **** strait and strive to be better than the rest of the phone manufacturers. Samsung is spanking them mainly because... they give out updates faster and in more of a timely manner than Sony.
If Sony truly wants to help CM they will release the code so the phones can run AOSP and not the ****ty Sony android software that's always extremely late.
Cheers
I prefer late but have more stabilty rather than fast update but cause many issue and bug
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If Sony wants to keep from going bankrupt than they should make the customers happy no matter what or they just lose more money until the ps4 flops and doesn't hold them together and bankruptcy Sony.
Sony needs to get there **** strait and strive to be better than the rest of the phone manufacturers. Samsung is spanking them mainly because... they give out updates faster and in more of a timely manner than Sony.
If Sony truly wants to help CM they will release the code so the phones can run AOSP and not the ****ty Sony android software that's always extremely late.
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Lol. Don't worry. Sony profited Q4 in their financial year, though I must point out they disposed some of their fixed assets. PS4 isn't a flop, and their financial, music, entertainment, gaming and insurance branch is making money. I must point, most consumers DON'T CARE about Android upgrades. Most only upgrade only when their phone tells them too. It's only this little community in XDA, that will go mad about it. Sony sold more smartphone than HTC, Nokia and Motorola already and recently broke into Europe's top three. So don't worry. Even if Sony abandons the whole Xperia T range (unlikely), their sales will not be affected at all.
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Lets see how many phones have 4.2
The obvious Nexus ones. Check
Latest Samsung.. GS4. Check
Latest HTC. Htc ONE. Check
Latest Sony. Xperia Z. Check
Any other phone yet ? Nope.
Any phone released before or same time as T/V/TX got 4.2 ? Nope
So what is the frikin' problem guys ? You are not being deprived of anything. Z/ZL has got 4.2. ZR, Tab Z etc are next, and right after that T/V/TX will get. So just chill.
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Lets see how many phones have 4.2
The obvious Nexus ones. Check
Latest Samsung.. GS4. Check
Latest HTC. Htc ONE. Check
Latest Sony. Xperia Z. Check
Any other phone yet ? Nope.
Any phone released before or same time as T/V/TX got 4.2 ? Nope
So what is the frikin' problem guys ? You are not being deprived of anything. Z/ZL has got 4.2. ZR, Tab Z etc are next, and right after that T/V/TX will get. So just chill.
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EXACTLY. Even the extremely popular SAMSUNG S3 doesn't even have 4.2 yet.
Its not a Sony issue. ALL manufacturers of phones are slow at releasing updates.
The advantage to Sony is it is becoming well known in the communities is the QUALITY of the software running on Sony devices is much much better than the other companies.
At the end of the day it is the quality and not the latest bells and whisltes that matters. As I have said before Android has slowed down and not really brought anything new to the table since 4.1 which we are currently on the advancments have been in what Sony have bolted into the setup.
Related
http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2012/12...id-4-1-for-2012-xperia-smartphones/#more-7041
O rly? Other manufacturers already updated their newest devices... It seems that Sony keeps their level. Late upgrades, welcome again!
Great news, but dont forget that if you have a branded phone it be more like april or may than february or march.
But as soon as those first generic updates hit the servers I am sure we will be uploading them here for everyone to enjoy!
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Q1 2013 for JB was the earliest date always for xperia T, so its not really late..very nearly early actually
Couldn't a branded phone just flash a JB. ftf on release?
By that time
By that time I wouldn't be surprised if Google is announcing key lime pie or a newer iteration of jb
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By that time I wouldn't be surprised if Google is announcing key lime pie or a newer iteration of jb
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Thats why you all should help the aosp teams as much as possible so you dont have to wait for a company to roll out updates when they feel like it.. ie a year late.
4.2 is nothing, seriously.
4.1 is a huge thing. As long Sony gets us to 4.1 im happy. Other than 5.0 i dont know. Cause 4.2 doesnt offer much features when companies like samsung, sony, etc.. applies their own skin/features on top of it, it pretty much does the same thing as 4.2. except for lockscreen, updates for google now.
to me, it just seems lile Google is running out of ideas.
To me it seems that Sony releases way too many models.
I would love if they could cut down on the hysterical mass of releases and focus on a fewer amount of models, but I guess thats just a wish. After all, they won't make any money from releasing the latest android update to all their older phones, but by selling new ones.
It's a bit wierd that they couldn't release the Xperia T/TX/V with 4.1 to begin with. 4.1 isn't that new any longer.
My old Xperia Arc was absolutely awesome with CM10, like a new phone. I could just imagine how great my Xperia V would run with 4.1/4.2!
I agree
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Thats why you all should help the aosp teams as much as possible so you dont have to wait for a company to roll out updates when they feel like it.. ie a year late.
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I've asked, given ideas, and shared my thoughts but it seems a lot of people here think the bootloader is almost impossible to unlock that we've settled for suped up stock roms. (I'm a TL user)
Even Sony is known for slow OS updates, I still prefer their very nice-looking phone over a higher-spec ugly phone LOL(looking at you Samsung). And on-screen buttons FTW.
But of course, all boils down to personal preference.
And btw, my TX screen display is gorgeous especially when compared side by side to my Nexus 4, when looking at the same image files I put on both. Only positive to N4 is fast update(therefore more fancy goodies), other than that, TX beats it.
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It's a bit wierd that they couldn't release the Xperia T/TX/V with 4.1 to begin with. 4.1 isn't that new any longer.
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The development life cycle for something as complicated as our phone is quite long. Generally the hardware gets a first run design and then the firmware guys get going on the initial prototypes. They'll use the latest base-OS version they can (normally) but don't underestimate the amount of work it is to move from one Android version to another. They won't have infinite resources!
Agree, of course. Yet I feel compelled to mention, that the korean gigant has 4.1 out since a while for devices released not that long before ours. Well, the T at least.
So while your statement still applies, relatively, Sony is describeable as slow.
Isn't the Xperia V supposed to be launched in the US with jelly bean in January?
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Wouldn't it be nice if Sony actually announced a date of release instead of this vague "quarter" garbage. Every other industry has deadlines. Set it, meet it and customers would rejoice.
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Wouldn't it be nice if Sony actually announced a date of release instead of this vague "quarter" garbage. Every other industry has deadlines. Set it, meet it and customers would rejoice.
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They can't because of the regions. They could do that for the US, for example, but aside that Sony has got a LOT of different customizations to prepare, and it's completely impossible to do all of them at the same time.
augie7107 said:
Wouldn't it be nice if Sony actually announced a date of release instead of this vague "quarter" garbage. Every other industry has deadlines. Set it, meet it and customers would rejoice.
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A lot of mobile companies use generic deadlines for the same type of upgrades... It's very, very common.
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A lot of mobile companies use generic deadlines for the same type of upgrades... It's very, very common.
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I understand the facts posted here and by the above post but I have been using Sony (Ericsson) devices for ten years and their rollout of an upgrade is always late and drama filled. Poor communication, staggered releases and no change logs just complicate the process and alienate customers.
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I understand the facts posted here and by the above post but I have been using Sony (Ericsson) devices for ten years and their rollout of an upgrade is always late and drama filled. Poor communication, staggered releases and no change logs just complicate the process and alienate customers.
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Which SE no longer applies....
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Which SE no longer applies....
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So your assumption is that Sony's takeover will eradicate the existing update rollout issues? I'm afraid that is quite naive. I owned the Xperia S prior to this device, which was a "Sony" device, and watched the upgrade take six months to complete and some regions still don't have 4.0.4.
In any event, best wishes for a happy holiday season to all.
Xperia j also upgradable to 4 .1
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There is nothing quite like having decent hardware run on the latest version of software, where the latter would be useful in squeezing out every possible ounce of performance from the former. Well, having said that, we bring you word that there is new firmware (9.1.A.1.138) which has been certified for the Sony Xperia T (also known as the LT30p) and the Xperia TX (aka LT29i). Sony Mobile claims that this update for both devices is set to arrive from April onwards, although I am quite sure that the pegged April 1st date is not an attempt to pull a fast one on consumers.
This new firmware will also see the introduction of Android 4.1.2 Jelly Bean to the Sony Xperia TX, as owners of this particular smartphone model were said to have been waiting for far too long for some Jelly Bean goodness. Apart from that, it is said that the update will bring along with it a fix for the problem that users have suffered from when running the Walkman app on Jelly Bean firmware. All’s well that ends well, no?
I don't agree. With Android 5 just three months away, we still have no date and no news about JB 4.2...
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All’s well that ends well, no?
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I don't agree. With Android 5 just three months away, we still have no date and no news about JB 4.2...
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skip jb 4.2 since its not really a huuuge update and then let them just work on andorid 5.0 thats what i think will probs happen hopfully we get 5.0 anways
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I don't agree. With Android 5 just three months away, we still have no date and no news about JB 4.2...
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Google hasn't even released details of Android 5.0, how do you expect the manufacturers to comment on something that hasn't completed development.
There's going to be so much hate from the other TX users, especially some "I TOLD YOU SO!" replies.
Sigh***...I just hope this will fix the OTHER Walkman bug, where music stops playing completely while browsing on the internet
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There's going to be so much hate from the other TX users, especially some "I TOLD YOU SO!" replies.
Sigh***...I just hope this will fix the OTHER Walkman bug, where music stops playing completely while browsing on the internet
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ah! I've had that issue happen to me on ICS! (not tested as such in JB..)
While browsing, the music player quits and it seems like a reset since it looses which track it was playing. Posted this on the Sony forum...typical reply..try reset/repair and it behaved same afterwards. no other reply.. (they seem not to be able to replicate the issue..which happens most of the time anywayz)
i really regret buying the tx though i like it too much.the update is very frustrating.i should have opted for the xperia z instead.:fingers-crossed:
Xperia Z huh?
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i really regret buying the tx though i like it too much.the update is very frustrating.i should have opted for the xperia z instead.:fingers-crossed:
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actually owners of the xperia Tx are just Few lucky people who got this Ultra Sexy design + Free from Hardware problems + best screen ever+Letting you know Xperia Z also suffering from SOD and am sure you dont wanna losse your phone after you get it by first charges xD
and here is the source =) http://www.gsmarena.com/some_sony_xperia_z_handsets_reportedly_suffering_sudden_death-news-5738.php
just be Proud of your tx its a Longterm mobile for me =)
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skip jb 4.2 since its not really a huuuge update and then let them just work on andorid 5.0 thats what i think will probs happen hopfully we get 5.0 anways
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We would never officially get 5.0. Period. And 4.2.2 IS a big update as there are many things that aren't available in 4.1 and considering Sony, they need to fix the Walkman bug and sound quality and sound level. 5.0 is too far away. There won't be a 5.0 device around until the end of the year (I presume).
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We would never officially get 5.0. Period. And 4.2.2 IS a big update as there are many things that aren't available in 4.1 and considering Sony, they need to fix the Walkman bug and sound quality and sound level. 5.0 is too far away. There won't be a 5.0 device around until the end of the year (I presume).
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Why wouldn't be get Android 5.0? I assume that it will be released at the end of the year, as ICS was with the Gnex.
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Why wouldn't be get Android 5.0? I assume that it will be released at the end of the year, as ICS was with the Gnex.
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Let me direct your attention to this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=39398406
Also Nexus would always be the first to get a new firmware. Doesn't mean we would. Unless.. Sony decides to release their own Nexus!
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ah! I've had that issue happen to me on ICS! (not tested as such in JB..)
While browsing, the music player quits and it seems like a reset since it looses which track it was playing. Posted this on the Sony forum...typical reply..try reset/repair and it behaved same afterwards. no other reply.. (they seem not to be able to replicate the issue..which happens most of the time anywayz)
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I read about a fix for this if your 'phone is rooted, using an app like root app delete, remove/disable smart connect and apparently the pause bug is removed in walkman.
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I read about a fix for this if your 'phone is rooted, using an app like root app delete, remove/disable smart connect and apparently the pause bug is removed in walkman.
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thanks, though the bug i mentioned is, it quiting while browsing...not the pause bug while screen is off..
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thanks, though the bug i mentioned is, it quiting while browsing...not the pause bug while screen is off..
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I read about a fix for this if your 'phone is rooted, using an app like root app delete, remove/disable smart connect and apparently the pause bug is removed in walkman.
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Actually, they should still be the same problems that my TX is having. Maybe I'll give that a shot, load some songs, and run it. If it still doesn't work, I'll just continue using my Walkman Z :good:
Well after I thoughts about the awesomeness of the Sony company I something to say:
Jelly Bean was released almost TWO MONTHS AGO. For two months we, The Users, have to deal with many issues connected with crappy (yes, it's crappy) Jelly Bean released for T. Many problems experienced by many users are piling up on Q&A. This is pathetic. Walkman bug is not even fixed for now and will be fixed on week 14. Two months of waiting for the bug to be fixed. Xperia Z got its "Sudden Death" problem fixed in a couple of days and besides it already got a couple of updates since the release. Our phones - Xperia T, TX, TL and V are not even 6 months old and it looks like Sony downed the support to a minimum. I feel like I was kicked in the butt by them and their support is like "Look, people... we will release a couple of fixes but then just shut the hell up and buy our new phones! Yay!"
Take a look at Samsung. They claimed that many of their phones will receive 4.2 and then the support for better Android versions will stop. SGSII - two-years-old phone will be updated to 4.2.2! This is something amazing.
Eh. I've never thought Sony would piss me off so much. I thought it will never happen. But I see that the more Xperias come, the less they're supported. We don't even know if our T's and V's will be ever updated to 4.2. I guess Sony will just say "These phones don't have enough RAM" just like they said about 2011 phones and theirs 4.1. Hey, Sony! Xperia J has also 512 RAM and it's enough for the Jelly Bean to be released but for another 512MB's is not?! (Remember that all of 2011's have even more powerful CPUs than the J's)
Pa-the-tic.
Anyways I'm still happy of my T but the support is really screwed up...
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Well after I thoughts about the awesomeness of the Sony company I something to say:
Jelly Bean was released almost TWO MONTHS AGO. For two months we, The Users, have to deal with many issues connected with crappy (yes, it's crappy) Jelly Bean released for T. Many problems experienced by many users are piling up on Q&A. This is pathetic. Walkman bug is not even fixed for now and will be fixed on week 14. Two months of waiting for the bug to be fixed. Xperia Z got its "Sudden Death" problem fixed in a couple of days and besides it already got a couple of updates since the release. Our phones - Xperia T, TX, TL and V are not even 6 months old and it looks like Sony downed the support to a minimum. I feel like I was kicked in the butt by them and their support is like "Look, people... we will release a couple of fixes but then just shut the hell up and buy our new phones! Yay!"
Take a look at Samsung. They claimed that many of their phones will receive 4.2 and then the support for better Android versions will stop. SGSII - two-years-old phone will be updated to 4.2.2! This is something amazing.
Eh. I've never thought Sony would piss me off so much. I thought it will never happen. But I see that the more Xperias come, the less they're supported. We don't even know if our T's and V's will be ever updated to 4.2. I guess Sony will just say "These phones don't have enough RAM" just like they said about 2011 phones and theirs 4.1. Hey, Sony! Xperia J has also 512 RAM and it's enough for the Jelly Bean to be released but for another 512MB's is not?! (Remember that all of 2011's have even more powerful CPUs than the J's)
Pa-the-tic.
Anyways I'm still happy of my T but the support is really screwed up...
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Agree with you entirely! This why I kept saying Official KeyLimePie is a dream. They just keep releasing new devices until they overwhelm the market and the current owners feel like their devices are old. Flagship or not, this is what happens. Some people got really pissed off with me too in the other thread
Samsung doesn't support developers like Sony does, but at least they are generous enough to upgrade the firmware.
Damn im so sad now hopefully sony can change its ways! One of us xda people have to get hired as like lead software dudes and change them lol
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Damn im so sad now hopefully sony can change its ways! One of us xda people have to get hired as like lead software dudes and change them lol
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Haha if they are willing to hire lazy ass bums I'm up for it!
AW: Sony Xperia T And Xperia TX Gets New Firmware This April
romcio47 said:
Well after I thoughts about the awesomeness of the Sony company I something to say:
Jelly Bean was released almost TWO MONTHS AGO. For two months we, The Users, have to deal with many issues connected with crappy (yes, it's crappy) Jelly Bean released for T. Many problems experienced by many users are piling up on Q&A. This is pathetic. Walkman bug is not even fixed for now and will be fixed on week 14. Two months of waiting for the bug to be fixed. Xperia Z got its "Sudden Death" problem fixed in a couple of days and besides it already got a couple of updates since the release. Our phones - Xperia T, TX, TL and V are not even 6 months old and it looks like Sony downed the support to a minimum. I feel like I was kicked in the butt by them and their support is like "Look, people... we will release a couple of fixes but then just shut the hell up and buy our new phones! Yay!"
Take a look at Samsung. They claimed that many of their phones will receive 4.2 and then the support for better Android versions will stop. SGSII - two-years-old phone will be updated to 4.2.2! This is something amazing.
Eh. I've never thought Sony would piss me off so much. I thought it will never happen. But I see that the more Xperias come, the less they're supported. We don't even know if our T's and V's will be ever updated to 4.2. I guess Sony will just say "These phones don't have enough RAM" just like they said about 2011 phones and theirs 4.1. Hey, Sony! Xperia J has also 512 RAM and it's enough for the Jelly Bean to be released but for another 512MB's is not?! (Remember that all of 2011's have even more powerful CPUs than the J's)
Pa-the-tic.
Anyways I'm still happy of my T but the support is really screwed up...
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mhh okay we have the walkman bug (I don't but others have), I can't find many other issues (nothing), I had a s3 and they released many updates for jb in a row but not because they are more userfriendly, it was because each new version had to fix some new bugs and they were much more annoying.
also jb on the s3 is more laggy than on xperia t, believe me. you can always say "why do contacts not instantly open on my t" but with an s3 you can be happy when they are open under 5 seconds and this on a Quadcore phone ...
who knows if we get 4.2 officially, even if not the port will be faster and more bug free than the official 4.2 from Samsung, I'm sure. but you are right, we have to get official 4.2 because we have bought an expensive flagship device.
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mhh okay we have the walkman bug (I don't but others have), I can't find many other issues (nothing), I had a s3 and they released many updates for jb in a row but not because they are more userfriendly, it was because each new version had to fix some new bugs and they were much more annoying.
also jb on the s3 is more laggy than on xperia t, believe me. you can always say "why do contacts not instantly open on my t" but with an s3 you can be happy when they are open under 5 seconds and this on a Quadcore phone ...
who knows if we get 4.2 officially, even if not the port will be faster and more bug free than the official 4.2 from Samsung, I'm sure. but you are right, we have to get official 4.2 because we have bought an expensive flagship device.
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Unless you got the Korean variant, you must be having the 1GB Ram variant of the GS3. JB is laggy on GS3 because of TouchWiz. Use a custom ROM and its all good. Touchwiz is such a Ram hogger.
And we definitely would get 4.2! Otherwise it's just ridiculous.. I'll burn Sony down! Its the next increment im afraid of. Also remember GS3 has many more inbuilt features than our T (software wise) such as multiwindow, so it tends to be slower. I'm not saying its better though. We got smallapps
Does anybody know which major firmware update we will be receiving next and when?
Sony seems to be awfully quiet lately regarding their update schedule.
With 4.4 on the horizon it's unfortunate the Z1 shipped with 4.2 instead of 4.3 but it wouldn't be so bad if Sony at least gave us a rough estimate.
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Does anybody know which major firmware update we will be receiving next and when?
Sony seems to be awfully quiet lately regarding their update schedule.
With 4.4 on the horizon it's unfortunate the Z1 shipped with 4.2 instead of 4.3 but it wouldn't be so bad if Sony at least gave us a rough estimate.
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They will probably update it to 4.3, and after it to 4.4
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I remember reading somewhere that they are saying 4.3 would roll out in October. But I am not sure where and how accurate is this
Knowing Sony smartphones for years, i'd say there will be a really late 4,3 update as promished, and after that the phone will not get any more updates...
Also look at my answer later in this topic
Hi ssj_jaypee,
Your thread has been moved from Xperia Z1 General to Xperia Z1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting. Please post in the correct sub-forum in future.
--wedgess
FFS, these threads normally start after a lot longer than this. The phone has not even been released in some parts of the world yet... Give them time
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there is a major update on the way as reported on xperiablog - the last 4 digits are changing which usually indicates something more than a bug fix but not likely 4.3
http://www.xperiablog.net/2013/09/25/new-xperia-z1-update-on-the-horizon-14-1-g-2-213/
Geoffxx said:
there is a major update on the way as reported on xperiablog - the last 4 digits are changing which usually indicates something more than a bug fix but not likely 4.3
http://www.xperiablog.net/2013/09/25/new-xperia-z1-update-on-the-horizon-14-1-g-2-213/
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I'm not to sure about this update... This 1 rumour came up and nothing has been seen about it ever since.. I personally would take it with a pinch of salt for now!
The question is IF there will be a major update from Sony for the Z1 after 4.3...
And the answer is "most definitely not!"
Don´t get me wrong, i love all my sony phones, but the updates is allways missing.
Sony has released new phones many times before with an older android installed at shipping date, and then made the promished "major update" after that, to the newest current version a month or two later... This way Sony is fulfilling Goggles demands about at least two major versions, without actually giving the customer anything new at all...
Nothing new in that, just look at Sony history...
IF Sony on the other hand SHOULD decide to release 4.4 down the road, it will definitely be without keyfeatures like sony camera features and so on...
Look at the history...
Just go back and read it, start eg. with the Xperia X10...
WHEN you buy a Sony phone, you have to understand that the promished firmware is ALL you will ever get, and that Sony WILL abandon all updates faster than you can count to 10...
(So only small bug-fixing can be expected after 4.3 for the Z1)
At first it looks like Sony is working hard to put out a working current Andriod version for the phone, but they are not... absolutly not !
Just sit for 2 sec. and think about this:
WHY would Sony at all ship a brand new phone, with an older Android version installed at shipping date ?
Would Sony not have to do just as mutch work to put out the older 4.2.2, as they have to if they decided to put out 4.3 from the shipping date ?
The ONLY difference is that IF they shipped with 4.3 then they had to update to 4.4 also to fullfill Googles demands, but with 4.2.2 as shipping firmware, and a fast update to 4.3, they don´t...
This Sony-scam is ONLY to fullfil Googles demands, nothing else...
Owner of Xperia X10i, X10mini, X10 mini Pro, Ray, S, T, V and Z1.
pshdo said:
The question is IF there will be a major update from Sony for the Z1 after 4.3...
And the answer is "most definitely not!"
Don´t get me wrong, i love all my sony phones, but the updates is allways missing.
Sony has released new phones many times before with an older android installed at shipping date, and then made the promished "major update" after that, to the newest current version a month or two later... This way Sony is fulfilling Goggles demands about at least two major versions, without actually giving the customer anything new at all...
Nothing new in that, just look at Sony history...
IF Sony on the other hand SHOULD decide to release 4.4 down the road, it will definitely be without keyfeatures like sony camera features and so on...
Look at the history...
Just go back and read it, start eg. with the Xperia X10...
WHEN you buy a Sony phone, you have to understand that the promished firmware is ALL you will ever get, and that Sony WILL abandon all updates faster than you can count to 10...
(So only small bug-fixing can be expected after 4.3 for the Z1)
At first it looks like Sony is working hard to put out a working current Andriod version for the phone, but they are not... absolutly not !
Just sit for 2 sec. and think about this:
WHY would Sony at all ship a brand new phone, with an older Android version installed at shipping date ?
Would Sony not have to do just as mutch work to put out the older 4.2.2, as they have to if they decided to put out 4.3 from the shipping date ?
The ONLY difference is that IF they shipped with 4.3 then they had to update to 4.4 also to fullfill Googles demands, but with 4.2.2 as shipping firmware, and a fast update to 4.3, they don´t...
This Sony-scam is ONLY to fullfil Googles demands, nothing else...
Owner of Xperia X10i, X10mini, X10 mini Pro, Ray, S, T, V and Z1.
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All these issues are fixed with custom roms yes? Official releases don't matter anymore then?
Also, will they atleast release a big update for the camera, other bugs and unlocked bootloader issue?
pshdo said:
The question is IF there will be a major update from Sony for the Z1 after 4.3...
And the answer is "most definitely not!"
Don´t get me wrong, i love all my sony phones, but the updates is allways missing.
Sony has released new phones many times before with an older android installed at shipping date, and then made the promished "major update" after that, to the newest current version a month or two later... This way Sony is fulfilling Goggles demands about at least two major versions, without actually giving the customer anything new at all...
Nothing new in that, just look at Sony history...
IF Sony on the other hand SHOULD decide to release 4.4 down the road, it will definitely be without keyfeatures like sony camera features and so on...
Look at the history...
Just go back and read it, start eg. with the Xperia X10...
WHEN you buy a Sony phone, you have to understand that the promished firmware is ALL you will ever get, and that Sony WILL abandon all updates faster than you can count to 10...
(So only small bug-fixing can be expected after 4.3 for the Z1)
At first it looks like Sony is working hard to put out a working current Andriod version for the phone, but they are not... absolutly not !
Just sit for 2 sec. and think about this:
WHY would Sony at all ship a brand new phone, with an older Android version installed at shipping date ?
Would Sony not have to do just as mutch work to put out the older 4.2.2, as they have to if they decided to put out 4.3 from the shipping date ?
The ONLY difference is that IF they shipped with 4.3 then they had to update to 4.4 also to fullfill Googles demands, but with 4.2.2 as shipping firmware, and a fast update to 4.3, they don´t...
This Sony-scam is ONLY to fullfil Googles demands, nothing else...
Owner of Xperia X10i, X10mini, X10 mini Pro, Ray, S, T, V and Z1.
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I'm not to bothered about this to be honest, maybe they can change but we have a Snapdragon 800 and Qualcomm actually release their sources (cough Samsung cough) so Cyanogenmod performance will be like awesomeness, I have my concerns regarding the camera's future with Sony being to stuck up to release the sources.
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I'm not to bothered about this to be honest, maybe they can change but we have a Snapdragon 800 and Qualcomm actually release their sources (cough Samsung cough) so Cyanogenmod performance will be like awesomeness, I have my concerns regarding the camera's future with Sony being to stuck up to release the sources.
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whats the best way to update z1.ie OTA or SONY COMPANION. thanks for any reply.
All these issues are fixed with custom roms yes? Official releases don't matter anymore then?
Also, will they atleast release a big update for the camera, other bugs and unlocked bootloader issue?
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I'm not to bothered about this to be honest, maybe they can change but we have a Snapdragon 800 and Qualcomm actually release their sources (cough Samsung cough) so Cyanogenmod performance will be like awesomeness, I have my concerns regarding the camera's future with Sony being to stuck up to release the sources.
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Ok then, i did read the question as if it was a question for official firmware, not custum roms...
- and my answer was becource of that, minded on the official SONY firmwares...
Custom firmwares is a whole other matter, and mutch harder to guess anything about yet...
- THAT only depend on how many people who buy this phone, and who of the devs here at XDA will work with it...
You need attention from a fantastic dev to get unofficial firmware flying...
BTW:
the history shows that Sony have NOT been fantastic releasing sorces before, so don´t count on it, but keep your fingers crossed...
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joecool666 said:
whats the best way to update z1.ie OTA or SONY COMPANION. thanks for any reply.
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I have allways used OTA for all that can be done that way...
The phone say to you when it is a big update, and you need PCcompanion (or in the old days SEUS).
Android 4.4 Xperia T petitionWe all want to see 4.4 on our loved Xperia T. And maybe this will help us get us so far! I hope to get a lot of support here! From Xperia T users, for Xperia T users!
Petition Here!
Although I appreciate the need for the latest, maybe this is best for a boatloads unlock. You can still put 4.4 on just not stock... Now a bootloader unlock would ve handy
Welp...it looks like tx and v users won't be able to participate...
I kid, I kid
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I signed it and shared the link on a German Android Forum. I hope we will have success.
ArmaNineTSeven said:
Android 4.4 Xperia T petitionWe all want to see 4.4 on our loved Xperia T. And maybe this will help us get us so far! I hope to get a lot of support here! From Xperia T users, for Xperia T users!
Petition Here!
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Can you at least wait until Sony say something? What's the big rush?
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randymess said:
Can you at least wait until Sony say something? What's the big rush?
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Exactly!!!! What's the BIg rush? There are chances that it will be updated to 4.4. This is because it's being looked into as shown on the device's page. You are rather going to piss the Sony devs up. Patience is a great virtue one must learn to exercise.
Yea! I don't understand why are so despered to receive 4.4 when we haven't even received 4.3.
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Nevermind, Give us 4.3 first!
signed, lets hope it comes true
Please dont do something stupid. Just keep calm and be patient.
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tianzhisun said:
Nevermind, Give us 4.3 first!
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Yes!I scare sony will troll all xperia T's User.....No 4.3 for sony T
Plz, stop this madness. Let's wait at least until December 30. Oh my god!
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Look, it is not about the rush, it's about showing Sony that there are a lot of people that would love to see it happen. See it as a support for the devs hard work. And better now than after they say "No 4.4 for the Xperia T" cause once a case is closed, it stays closed.
See it as support guys.
i think its best no one signs that petition. Put yourself in Sony's shoes. They are preparing updates and pushing updates to lots of devices within a few months. We are all anxious and getting tired of waiting but a petition for 4.4 when its already being looked into is a bit childish and unnecessary. its jeopardizing things for us. Would have been better if it was a petition to AT&T for bootloader unlock.
Keep Calm and Wait for KitKat
Why would Sony want to release yet another Android update after 4.3 for the Xperia T? The phone is over a year old now and Sony are pushing their Z range, so they're not going to put any development work into anything but bug fixes really.
What would be the benefit to them as a business? Answer probably very little if any.
I've been hearing the same demands on here since the X10i was released! The fact of the matter its unlikely most handsets will see more than 2 releases of Android.
bigyinn said:
Why would Sony want to release yet another Android update after 4.3 for the Xperia T? The phone is over a year old now and Sony are pushing their Z range, so they're not going to put any development work into anything but bug fixes really.
What would be the benefit to them as a business? Answer probably very little if any.
I've been hearing the same demands on here since the X10i was released! The fact of the matter its unlikely most handsets will see more than 2 releases of Android.
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Cause Sony Just Released One Update for this series (4.1)
I Think at least it Should Release 3 big Update For These Phones same as SP
bigyinn said:
Why would Sony want to release yet another Android update after 4.3 for the Xperia T? The phone is over a year old now and Sony are pushing their Z range, so they're not going to put any development work into anything but bug fixes really.
What would be the benefit to them as a business? Answer probably very little if any.
I've been hearing the same demands on here since the X10i was released! The fact of the matter its unlikely most handsets will see more than 2 releases of Android.
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The benefit of releasing new versions of Android is getting users happy. Why people buy a nexus device? Mostly because that device is going to have guaranteed updates for at least 18 months.
If Sony (put here any other brand) would have a similar update policy many users will think on buying a Sony device, so Sony would sell more devices and have more profit.
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Selling more doesn't mean more profit. Developing an update is very time consuming as we've seen and with that it will also cost Sony a lot of money. If it is even profitable to update the T to kitkat I doubt it would be noteworthy.
I would love to see 4.4 on the T because I have to go another year with this phone but I would understand Sony if they don't update our phones.
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signed
I think we still might get it
http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2014/03...eria-z-ultra-xperia-z1-and-xperia-z1-compact/
My phone is T. Xperia T.
romcio47 said:
I think we still might get it
http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2014/03...eria-z-ultra-xperia-z1-and-xperia-z1-compact/
My phone is T. Xperia T.
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We might???.... actually in my opinion there's no chance this time.
Let's hope in some new updates for 4.3 instead, because it's very very buggy... :crying:
istux said:
We might???.... actually in my opinion there's no chance this time.
Let's hope in some new updates for 4.3 instead, because it's very very buggy... :crying:
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How do you know? Sony has always updated their phones to the latest android version that their respective platform supports. If the MSM8960 is still supported in CAF we will surely see Kitkat sooner or later.
Remember that SP and ZR were not included in that list too. Sony should at least write another "news" with more accurate description what with us. What's our future...
On their site we still have "Testing" phase under KitKat 4.4 and ZU, Z1, Z1c has 4.4 as current version. So they did some changes on their site leaving ours intact, forcing us to wait.
Nevermind, I'll get the Z2 as soon as it appears here Btw 4.4 is still under investigation on the Xperia Support site and the above blog post is mostly about the roll out for newer phones.
We need to wait until at least 4.5 is announced from Google. XperiaT has always been a version behind.
Released with 4.0 despite 4.1 being out.
Updated to 4.1 whilst 4.2 was already out.
Currently rolling out 4.3 as 4.4 has been available from Google for months.
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How.xperia E1 got the damn.4.4!
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romcio47 said:
Remember that SP and ZR were not included in that list too. Sony should at least write another "news" with more accurate description what with us. What's our future...
On their site we still have "Testing" phase under KitKat 4.4 and ZU, Z1, Z1c has 4.4 as current version. So they did some changes on their site leaving ours intact, forcing us to wait.
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They are just waiting to announce EOL after the 18 months period
Think... Xperia Z in May, if Sony says so it'll be there in June then M2, T2 and so on most probably in July haha and T V SP in August?? No way sorry they will abandon it like the unloved brother Xperia S (╯3╰)
August? Hahaha maybe... And maybe sell my XV
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Not today, dear - I am haven a headache
May be it's a good idea having a seperate section: Wishes + Suspicions, Rumours + Humors
Good idea...
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i hope they will fix the bugs on 4.3 first then roll out to 4.4..
not again !!
I'd rather stay on 4.3.
4.4 without root is pretty much useless for me due to external memory usage restrictions (I really doubt the developers of Sygic and other navigation apps will bother to implement the new API in their apps).
I think that too
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Gasai Yuno said:
I'd rather stay on 4.3.
4.4 without root is pretty much useless for me due to external memory usage restrictions (I really doubt the developers of Sygic and other navigation apps will bother to implement the new API in their apps).
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Agreed, I have 4.4 on my ASUS TF101 but that is a custom ROM so this isn't an issue. 4.4 on a stock ROM makes my phone just as useful as a an iPhone. I hold all my media on a NAS drive and just FTP Music and TV shows over my wifi so no need for a PC to hook up and transfer over. This disappoints me as I now have two choices stay with 4.3 which I am extremely happy with or go down the custom ROM route for my XperiaT which I don't want to as I like and use the Sony customisation this is why I stick with Sony devices. For once I wouldn't be fussed that my device isn't on the latest firmware. Hopefully all the Sony 4.4 apps will be back ported to work on 4.3 ( I haven't looked yet as only just enjoying the 4.3 ones).