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Get multitouch visualizer from play store. the touchscreen is poor, especially with multitouch (only seems to support 2 touch points, the 2nd finger often is not detected, or causes the first to no longer be detected.) The caapacative buttons are hard to press sometimes, or do not respond. very annoying.
Enable the show touches option in the settings of the developer options, it works much better.
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Get multitouch visualizer from play store. the touchscreen is poor, especially with multitouch (only seems to support 2 touch points, the 2nd finger often is not detected, or causes the first to no longer be detected.) The caapacative buttons are hard to press sometimes, or do not respond. very annoying.
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Probably need to disable the HTC Gesture option in Settings->Display. After that it'll recognize 10 touch points.
What's HTC gesture?
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What's HTC gesture?
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Its for the media link HD. 3 swipes up and it sends the phones screen to the media link HD.
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Its for the media link HD. 3 swipes up and it sends the phones screen to the media link HD.
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Just tried it with the HTC gestures turned off, multitouch visualizer 2 recognized 10 touches.
Indeed, turning HTC gestures off gives more touch points, but I still have the problem of the capacitative buttons not being as sensitive as the rest of the screen. They FREQUENTLY do not seem to register touches. Very annoying.
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Indeed, turning HTC gestures off gives more touch points, but I still have the problem of the capacitative buttons not being as sensitive as the rest of the screen. They FREQUENTLY do not seem to register touches. Very annoying.
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are you using the official screen protector from htc?
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Indeed, turning HTC gestures off gives more touch points, but I still have the problem of the capacitative buttons not being as sensitive as the rest of the screen. They FREQUENTLY do not seem to register touches. Very annoying.
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This seems to work for some people:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2231832
It should bring up the sensitivity for both the touchscreen and the capacitive keys which are, I presume, less sensitive than the touchscreen itself by design.
I'm not using any screen protector.
I tried the sense keyboard calibration and it had no effect.
The problem seems to be related to how FIRMLY I press the buttons. A light touch often does not register, but a firm touch always does. Never had this problem on my Evo 3D or Evo OG.
so this problem with capacitive home/back buttons is REALLY pissing me off.
went to sprint store, asked to see their display unit, told them the problem i had. guy said "I NOTICED THAT TOO". used their demo unit, EXACT same problem. Talked to some people on IRC who also noticed it.
*really* hope its software-fixable because I love the phone otherwise
I've used adb shell # getevents to see that FREQUENTLY tehre is just no event generated when pressing the home and back buttons. It *is* a hardware problem. I've never been so annoyed, displeased, or disappoined with a phone. I'll be returning it. Even tho the model I saw in the store had the exact same problem. If my next one has same problem I'll give the ol F**K YOU to HTC and not look back.
Also, havent found a way to get software keys on it...which MAY be an acceptable alternative to broken hardware buttons
I had noticed the same problem with a demo unit in one store and so went to check it out in another store where it was fine. I assumed it was specific to the first demo unit. I hope I get a decent phone.
Is anyone experiencing touches being registered slightly off from where you are actually touching the screen? I enabled show touches in dev options, just to make sure, and saw that touches were being registered just slightly lower than where the tip of my fingers were touching.
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There is definitely something going on here with the capacitative buttons, as we all see.
However I'm going to give HTC a few weeks and see if they sort it out. Once enough complaints roll in they've got to do something right?
http://www.pocketables.com/2013/04/...-issues-with-capacitive-hardware-buttons.html
I just upgraded to an HTC One, but am having issues with this one and may need to exchange it. Before I do I wanted to see if the issues were at all common or if there is a fix for any of them.
Issues:
1. The power button is sunk in a bit. Not flush, but below the hole. It is very difficult to push and has been driving me nuts.
2. The front buttons do not light up. I saw them light up once, but most of the time I have to guess where the buttons are. Also very annoying as back, home, and power are used frequently.
3. Over half of my text messages need to be resent multiple times. This did not happen with my previous phone.
4. Smaller issue but the volume rocker is difficult to press. Big difference from the HTC EVO 4G LTE
5. Do I have to force close the power app everytime I restart the phone?
6. How do I recent apps? Holding down home goes to Google Now.
Thank you for any help.
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I just upgraded to an HTC One, but am having issues with this one and may need to exchange it. Before I do I wanted to see if the issues were at all common or if there is a fix for any of them.
Issues:
1. The power button is sunk in a bit. Not flush, but below the hole. It is very difficult to push and has been driving me nuts.
Me too. I am gonna RMA it, this is a QC issue. Two of my other ones are fine, this one is bad.
2. The front buttons do not light up. I saw them light up once, but most of the time I have to guess where the buttons are. Also very annoying as back, home, and power are used frequently.
Does your auto brightness work properly? Many people were reporting problems with the ambient light sensor.
3. Over half of my text messages need to be resent multiple times. This did not happen with my previous phone.
I have no idea what this is. Google voice probs?
4. Smaller issue but the volume rocker is difficult to press. Big difference from the HTC EVO 4G LTE
HTC has sacrificed functionality for aesthetics. You'll get used to it, though.
5. Do I have to force close the power app everytime I restart the phone?
Why would you do this? Does the power saver notification bother you so much?
6. How do I recent apps? Holding down home goes to Google Now.
Double tap home.
Thank you for any help.
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The volume rocker is flush to the body of the phone but Ive had no problems using it? Maybe because I'm using a case I'm not too sure
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The volume rocker is flush to the body of the phone but Ive had no problems using it? Maybe because I'm using a case I'm not too sure
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Yes, a case makes it much easier because then there is nothing to stop your fingers from pressing the volume buttons. The bezel is the culprit here.
True, but I can't imagine not having a case for such a beautiful phone
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True, but I can't imagine not having a case for such a beautiful phone
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That's oxymoronic, not to mention a double negative.
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I just upgraded to an HTC One, but am having issues with this one and may need to exchange it. Before I do I wanted to see if the issues were at all common or if there is a fix for any of them.
Issues:
1. The power button is sunk in a bit. Not flush, but below the hole. It is very difficult to push and has been driving me nuts.
2. The front buttons do not light up. I saw them light up once, but most of the time I have to guess where the buttons are. Also very annoying as back, home, and power are used frequently.
3. Over half of my text messages need to be resent multiple times. This did not happen with my previous phone.
4. Smaller issue but the volume rocker is difficult to press. Big difference from the HTC EVO 4G LTE
5. Do I have to force close the power app everytime I restart the phone?
6. How do I recent apps? Holding down home goes to Google Now.
Thank you for any help.
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1: How flush is it? Mine is flush but I can still press it easily without a case on. With a case on, I have to place my finger a certain way.
2: The buttons are light sensitive. So if you're in the dark, they will light up. If you're out in the sun or in a room with the light on, they won't light up. That's one thing I love about HTC.
3: Umm maybe spotty coverage? Or it could be a defect. Not sure about that one.
4: Volume rocker is fine if you don't have a case on. Just try hitting it near the very top or bottom to make it easier.
5: Are you asking about the power saver notification? If yes then yeah, every time you reboot. Or you can just leave it there. I don't mind it as I am switching the power saver on and off quite often.
6: You double tap the home button.
Hope this helps!
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OP, if it is hard at all to press the power button, return it or exchange it. My other Ones are SUPER easy to press. I have to get around to mailing this one in, but I'm not sure if I should because everything else about this phone is pretty much perfect.
And to see if your button lights are working, just cover the ambient light sensor with your finger. The one at the top left. Hold it for about 3 seconds. The lights should turn on. It think it's very smart that they only turn in when there is very little light.
I would have like a nav bar better though.
Okay so I'm exchanging the phone for the power button issue. Sad that the volume rocker issue will continue, but I can handle that one. The power button on mine is an absolute nightmare. I have to jam a fingernail in there to turn it on and half the time it doesn't work. Have to hit it just right.
The capacitive buttons do not light up in the light, dark, whenever. I cannot see the buttons and have to guess. Believe me, no one would love this feature. On my HTC EVO 4G LTE the lights came on. It gets annoying having to guess every time. I want the lights to come on.
My other big problem has nothing to do with google voice. I'll have full reception and not be able to make calls and text messages have to be resent. Seems like the phone is not working with the network correctly.
Yes the power saver notification is unacceptable. It is annoying to have a useless notification in the status bar. I'm not the only one it bothers and it needs to be removed permanently. Also I need Sprint ID to stop changing my custom screens. I would like my phone to work the way I want it to. I wanted an upgrade not a downgrade. When I get one with a working power button rooting should solve this, but if that wasn't an option I'd be shopping for another phone.
Figured out the double tap on home shortly after, but thanks. I still need to figure out how to stop Sprint ID from messing up my home screens. I tried disabling the icon pack for now.
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The capacitive buttons do not light up in the light, dark, whenever. I cannot see the buttons and have to guess. Believe me, no one would love this feature. On my HTC EVO 4G LTE the lights came on. It gets annoying having to guess every time. I want the lights to come on.
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That's sure not right. Hopefully your exchange doesn't do that, because mine lights up at all times of day.
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My other big problem has nothing to do with google voice. I'll have full reception and not be able to make calls and text messages have to be resent. Seems like the phone is not working with the network correctly.
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Again, not an issue here. Hopefully something your first unit just struggled with.
FrankthaTank said:
Yes the power saver notification is unacceptable. It is annoying to have a useless notification in the status bar. I'm not the only one it bothers and it needs to be removed permanently.
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Gone in 4.2, I believe. In the meantime though, you can long-press on the notification, head over to App info, and force stop the relevant app. Kills the thing quite nicely.
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Also I need Sprint ID to stop changing my custom screens. I would like my phone to work the way I want it to. I wanted an upgrade not a downgrade. When I get one with a working power button rooting should solve this, but if that wasn't an option I'd be shopping for another phone.
Figured out the double tap on home shortly after, but thanks. I still need to figure out how to stop Sprint ID from messing up my home screens. I tried disabling the icon pack for now.
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Can't really help you here. First thing I did when I got the phone was disable all of the bloatware (built-in Android disable function), although I later killed it off with Titanium Backup. Never had much an issue there though. Tried another launcher, maybe?
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That's oxymoronic, not to mention a double negative.
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First a double negative is the only way this phrase works. Otherwise it's "I imagine having a case." which does not convey the point. Sure could go with "can't imagine leaving the phone unprotected" which is still a double negative without another "not" but that just seems nit-picky.
Also the first thing I do with phones when I get them is put a case on them. After many beautiful phones becoming banged up, scratched, ugly phones you learn that a case keeps them beautiful. The aluminum will scratch easily so putting a case on it is a good idea. There are clear cases so you can still see through. You could just be really careful and paranoid with it though it will probably get scratched anyway. It's up to you, but in no way is it odd or a contradiction to protect the appearance of a beautiful phone with a case.
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First a double negative is the only way this phrase works. Otherwise it's "I imagine having a case." which does not convey the point. Sure could go with "can't imagine leaving the phone unprotected" which is still a double negative without another "not" but that just seems nit-picky.
Also the first thing I do with phones when I get them is put a case on them. After many beautiful phones becoming banged up, scratched, ugly phones you learn that a case keeps them beautiful. The aluminum will scratch easily so putting a case on it is a good idea. There are clear cases so you can still see through. You could just be really careful and paranoid with it though it will probably get scratched anyway. It's up to you, but in no way is it odd or a contradiction to protect the appearance of a beautiful phone with a case.
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Just poking, mate. :s
Anyway, OP, I hope you can resolve these issues. The bloatware can easily be removed via root. The Power saver notification is gone in the 4.2 update. (We'll get that soon, hopefully)
The texting thing is bizzare. I really don't know what that was.
The main defect with the Note 3 is that it requires a button-press to wake-up.
Let this thread be a collective bounty of alternative solutions until we can Slide2Wake which requires kernal changes and AT&T to unlock the bootloader.
Sign this petition in the meantime while you read on:
http://www.change.org/petitions/at-t-unlock-our-samsung-galaxy-note-3-bootloader
Working solutions:
-Use a proximity sensor app (very hit and miss) (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.omd.autoscreenon&hl=en)
-Use the S View cover (also hit and miss and unpreferred by many)
Any other solutions please add!
Why would you want a huge wake lock like that? A simple press of the home button is much easier IMHO. I'd rather not have to swipe across the screen to turn the screen on
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Why would you want a huge wake lock like that? A simple press of the home button is much easier IMHO. I'd rather not have to swipe across the screen to turn the screen on
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You're right. It's a considerable battery drain. The surprising thing is.. in the end, the smoothness of button-free operation becomes *worth it* IMHO.
I turn my phone on and off a lot to check stuff. I'll look at my to do list then press the corner SwipePad shortcut to turn it off. Then I'll remember something while moving up a bit in the line and **without even looking down for a button** and half-entranced in contemplation still I'll swipe from one side of the phone to halfway to the other and it is ON by the split second both my hands hold it to to make a note or reminder, look up something, etc. after which i'll immediately press the corner shortcut again to turn it off and my phone stays in one hand while I people-watch.
For some reason this is much more relaxed and makes me feel like the phone is like a second brain where I don't even need to create mnemonic devices called loci as much like I used to.
Maybe that's what's making my memory kind of crappy. Maybe should go back to doing that for my to-do lists. Might improve my memory. ANYWAY. my point is:
(1) it's less mechanical effort to swipe and
(2) I like to save my buttons and don't want to eventually have to replace the home button on the Note 3 for like $50 or whatever.
I guess it's not that big a deal.
If I did have that feature though I wouldn't miss anything else from past phones especially since the Note 3 is big enough to fit in one hand BARELY and could do a HALF-swipe to wake feature.
**pretends to do it now**
I'm crazy.
I would like a solution to this as well. Tried the light sensor app but that wasnt working well. Really wish we had tap-on.
I really like not hitting any physical buttons because this phone is huge and unwieldy. Still love it though.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.spazedog.xposed.additionsgb
I assigned the power button to holding down the back button. That saves a little bit of button-life.
The app also is designed to support the same while the screen is off... but it doesn't seem to work yet.
Would be super awesome though to be able to turn the screen off and on while the back button is held. Just not there yet.
Screen on with swipe is the next best.. though much more battery intensive.
Has anyone just simply tried pressing the simple wake button on the side of the phone once? I mean you already have your hand on it most of the time since it is where your fingers are if you are holding the phone in one hand.
Also for you slider guys, it takes many more muscles to frown and it is the same to slide. Much better to smile and press one single button already under your thumb when you are holding the phone.
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Has anyone just simply tried pressing the simple wake button on the side of the phone once? I mean you already have your hand on it most of the time since it is where your fingers are if you are holding the phone in one hand.
Also for you slider guys, it takes many more muscles to frown and it is the same to slide. Much better to smile and press one single button already under your thumb when you are holding the phone.
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Congratulations Captain Obvious. You are the first person to ever think of that!
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Read above about my experience with button-less waking in the SGS2.
Besides that, you're wrong, my thumb is actually closer to the screen than the power button when I am holding it.
And it's no effort at all. That's the whole point. It's the same slide necessary in receiving a call. No physical PUSHING required.
I can turn my phone on twice per second easily by linking one of the touch buttons to "power" as well. With zero concern for screwing up any physical buttons.
Anyway please only write in this thread if you have something that will contribute to the idea of "button-less wake"
I'm only looking for creating solutions to that.
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I can turn my phone on twice per second easily by linking one of the touch buttons to "power" as well. With zero concern for screwing up any physical buttons.
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Well it looks like you've solved your own problem right? So should this be closed? I'll answer my own question, yes
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Well it looks like you've solved your own problem right? So should this be closed? I'll answer my own question, yes
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I'm talking about my SGS2 (last phone).
If Note 3 has a button-less wake feature then can close this.
I think that won't happen till ATT lifts the lock tho..
Best buttonless Wake Achieved
S View cover
P.s.: for those who prefer a different case: just wait till bootloader is unlocked > kernel unlocked > slide function can be made.
thread closed.
I wonder what is your prefered way to wake the device. For me the most comfortable is using an app like Simple Cover Lock, but it causes a bir battery drain and sometimes is very sensitive, so the phone can wake while it's still on your pocket.
Also, I read the s2w , tap to wake and so also causes battery drain, so I don't know what method is more battery friendly (I personally don¡'t like using the power button, it's not comfortable at all for left handed people)
Opinions from devs and skilled people are more than welcome!
Thanks
On m7, half-screen dt2w is my favorite, with l2s. I don't think there is any significant drain from this, and combined with pocket detection, there are almost no accidental wakes for me. The ones I do have, tend to be from the power button being pressed when I sit or bend.
For me it's dt2w then s2s, also vol2w is very helpful when I'm driving to change songs. I've read before flar2 has said these wake/sleep options have such minimal affect on battery you will never notice.
Bottom half DT2W, then sweep2sleep if available.
Bottom dt2w (kernel) and dt2s (secure settings alias).
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I use wake gestures(dt2w). It's an options in Sense 6 toolbox. It requires a kernel by flar (bulletproof or elementalX)
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No one uses proximity sensor? It is like: i take my phone and it turns itself on... magic!
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No one uses proximity sensor? It is like: i take my phone and it turns itself on... magic!
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Yeah and it will also turn on by itself many times in your pocket too.
It depends, on my old Xiaomi Mi2s it didn't ever turn on while being in my pocket, but it seems like m7 proximity sensor is more sensitive...
Please help let me know if screen activating in pocket is a bug or if this is intended design (i.e., design flaw)?
Now that it's summer my leg can get a little sweaty. But my phone in pocket triggers off my leg due to the moisture! Then the phone will randomly edit various things as the phone bounces around in my pocket.
WTF, why won't the phone just detect the darkness and know it's in my F*ING pocket! My S9+ was really good about this, it knew when it was in the pocket and ignored my sweaty leg.
But with this retarded S21 Ultra, it doesn't seem to know when it's in your pocket. I've already lost several important appointments and tasks (my calendar and task lists widgets are on the main screen) because the dumb phone let my *LEG* edit/destroy/delete the important tasks and calendar entries.
I'm holding out hope that maybe this is not how the phone is designed to work, maybe I can fix it by doing a factory reset. But I recall other posts complaining about how the phone is too retarded to detect being in the pocket when it comes to the Always On Display (AOD) and just keeps the display on while in the pocket too. So maybe it's a fatal design flaw of the phone, where if it is hot outside and you have moisture on your leg, your phone will think your leg is typing and just randomly change things.
Please help me understand whether this is a fatal design flaw or just some bug or what!?
please disable the option to activate the phone/unlock phone via sensory detection
i believe you need to deactivate that first from the smart lock - on body detection
and then also go in advanced features, motions and gestures and deactivate lift to wake
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Please help let me know if screen activating in pocket is a bug or if this is intended design (i.e., design flaw)?
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Used to happen to me too. Ofter i would only realise phone was awake and messing around by the beeping sounds of the dialer going off in the pocket, or the increasing temperature of the phone against my thigh - screen on for God knows how long.
Pocket detection is dubious at best - doesn't work consistently. All this happened despite it being set to "on"
Turning off double-tap-to-wake screen helped me.
Now the phone only wakes up for calls and will show lockscreen only if I hit the power button (side key) - I have never used AOD, so screen stays off no matter how hard you tap away at the screen.
Unfortunaltely this puts a lot of mechanical wear on the side key (waking up the phone to unlock)
TO solve this, I have set my Fingerprint scanner "always on" enabled, so if i want to unlock phone without wearing out the side key, I just hit the screen with my thumb where i know the fingerprint scanner is, and it takes me to the home screen without showing the lock screen. I've developed muscle memory now and can hit the correct spot on the screen 90% of the time without the fingerprint icon displayed on screen. No perceptible differnence in battery life as opposed to keeping fingerprint scanner always on disabled.
This has worked for me. Maybe you can try it out and see if it solves your issue.
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Used to happen to me too. Ofter i would only realise phone was awake and messing around by the beeping sounds of the dialer going off in the pocket, or the increasing temperature of the phone against my thigh - screen on for God knows how long.
Pocket detection is dubious at best - doesn't work consistently. All this happened despite it being set to "on"
Turning off double-tap-to-wake screen helped me.
Now the phone only wakes up for calls and will show lockscreen only if I hit the power button (side key) - I have never used AOD, so screen stays off no matter how hard you tap away at the screen.
Unfortunaltely this puts a lot of mechanical wear on the side key (waking up the phone to unlock)
TO solve this, I have set my Fingerprint scanner "always on" enabled, so if i want to unlock phone without wearing out the side key, I just hit the screen with my thumb where i know the fingerprint scanner is, and it takes me to the home screen without showing the lock screen. I've developed muscle memory now and can hit the correct spot on the screen 90% of the time without the fingerprint icon displayed on screen. No perceptible differnence in battery life as opposed to keeping fingerprint scanner always on disabled.
This has worked for me. Maybe you can try it out and see if it solves your issue.
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I dont think that would put any mechanical stress on the power key.
Phones are tested for upto millions of press of buttons which you woudnt be able to achieve in your lifetime .
I have my aod on always , and double tap to wake on always .
Best possible way to avoid accidental wakeup is to insert your phone with screen facing away from the body i.e towards the fabric of pants/jeans/lower
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please disable the option to activate the phone/unlock phone via sensory detection
i believe you need to deactivate that first from the smart lock - on body detection
and then also go in advanced features, motions and gestures and deactivate lift to wake
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Yes, lift to wake was already disabled while the problem happens. The phone still wakes from "taps" caused by the leg.
I want to clarify, the problem is not caused by the phone unlocking or locking.
The problem is because the phone is not ignoring screen taps when in the pocket. It thinks I'm double-tapping to wake the phone.
I'd like to keep enabled the smart lock on body detection, and keep enabled the double-tap to wake. I can see how keeping the phone locked would help, but the root problem is still there - the phone wakes up even though it is inside the pocket.
Keeping the phone locked would just transform this to a new problem - how do I prevent my phone from waking up in my pocket and wasting energy while my leg enters various unlock codes by itself.
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Pocket detection is dubious at best - doesn't work consistently. All this happened despite it being set to "on"
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Yes, the S21 Ultra refers to this as "Accidental Touch Protection." The flavor text explains "Protect your phone from accidental touches when it's in a dark place, such as a pocket or bag."
Accidental Touch Protection has been turned on when I had the problems.
Does anyone know why Accidental Touch Protection is not working, even though it's turned on?
The setting is found under Settings - Display (scroll down, 4th from the bottom).
Keep the back of the phone towards your leg, problem solved.
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I dont think that would put any mechanical stress on the power key.
Phones are tested for upto millions of press of buttons which you woudnt be able to achieve in your lifetime .
I have my aod on always , and double tap to wake on always .
Best possible way to avoid accidental wakeup is to insert your phone with screen facing away from the body i.e towards the fabric of pants/jeans/lower
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Yup, you may be right. Ideally they should last a lifetime. But all mechanical parts are prone to failure. Same thing holds true with charging ports - they shouldn't fail, but often do. Doesn't happen to everyone, but it's something to keep in mind.
I've had my HTC power key fail on me due to constant use over 2 years, and ever since then I've stuck to using the screen for wake-up. Needn't happen to everyone, but once bitten, twice shy, right?
The screen facing outwards is a good idea and it was the first solution that came to mind when I was having accidental wake-up issues. Tried it for a few days but stopped using it because it's awkward for me (camera bump irritates thigh) and it was un-intuitive to take out the phone, then turn it around in the hand to start using it. I just wasn't comfortable using it that way.
Like I said, this set-up works best for me, everyone might have their own way of doing things
All I know is that with this set-up, I don't have any more accidental wake-ups while the phone is in the pocket. That was the main requirement.
KingFatty said:
Yes, the S21 Ultra refers to this as "Accidental Touch Protection." The flavor text explains "Protect your phone from accidental touches when it's in a dark place, such as a pocket or bag."
Accidental Touch Protection has been turned on when I had the problems.
Does anyone know why Accidental Touch Protection is not working, even though it's turned on?
The setting is found under Settings - Display (scroll down, 4th from the bottom).
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Yes, that's the one I was talking about. Like you said, it doesn't work consistently. No idea why. I've always had it on.
KingFatty said:
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If you'd like to keep the tap to wake feature on, then the best solution for now appears to be what @aj7400 and @blackhawk have suggested - Keep the phone screen facing away from the thigh.
The screen of my phone frequently turns on when it is in my pocket and the phone starts performing some tasks like playing music.
Does anyone of you experience the same problem ? Is there any method to prevent accidental touches when the phone is locked ?
Edit: sorry I didn't notice this thread, so I created another one for the same problem. I'll try some of the solutions you proposed guys, hopefully it will fix the problem.
Was there any pattern to when Samsung's "accidental touch protection" failed to keep the phone screen inactive?
I'm trying to find out if there is anything going on that might affect the accidental touch protection. Normally, accidental touch protection keeps the phone screen off when the phone is in your pocket, to protect against unwanted touches or "butt dialing."
But in my case, my leg was a little sweaty and the phone screen activated and deleted some of my important info.
Has anyone else seen anything in terms of a pattern when your accidental touch protection fails to protect against accidental touches?
Maybe you had see-through pants with white pockets with direct sunlight glistening off your sweaty thighs?
KingFatty said:
Was there any pattern to when Samsung's "accidental touch protection" failed to keep the phone screen inactive?
I'm trying to find out if there is anything going on that might affect the accidental touch protection. Normally, accidental touch protection keeps the phone screen off when the phone is in your pocket, to protect against unwanted touches or "butt dialing."
But in my case, my leg was a little sweaty and the phone screen activated and deleted some of my important info.
Has anyone else seen anything in terms of a pattern when your accidental touch protection fails to protect against accidental touches?
Maybe you had see-through pants with white pockets with direct sunlight glistening off your sweaty thighs?
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Nope. Happened to me in Dark blue denims as well as black trousers.
It's not consistent. Works most of the time but fails every once in a while.
For me, usually I become aware of it when i hear the dialer beeps (somehow the screen taps end up on the emergency call dialer screen) go to town.
Funnily enough, I turned the feature off and was roaming around the city for more than 2 hours. No accidental wake-ups at all. This is even after I have temporarily restored double tap to wake screen. Need to watch this for a few more days and if i don't get any more ghost wake-ups, i'm keeping it turned off.
enigmaamit said:
Funnily enough, I turned the feature off and was roaming around the city for more than 2 hours. No accidental wake-ups at all. This is even after I have temporarily restored double tap to wake screen. Need to watch this for a few more days and if i don't get any more ghost wake-ups, i'm keeping it turned off.
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What did you do, i didnt understand ?
ELp2 said:
What did you do, i didnt understand ?
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Turned off Accidental Touch Protection
Have you also tried just initiating LOCKDOWN MODE via the power button before a run?
I'm guessing that your leg and the sweat and the fabric combine to give the electric feel of a skin's surface that activates the phone?
You could also use a Bixby Routine to disable double-tap to wake?
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Turned off Accidental Touch Protection
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Let us know your conclusion...I went the EXACT ane route (before finding this post): disable ATP and created a routine button to disable double tap to wake when I take the phone out for a walk.
Seems to be working, but it's another source of frustration as my previous Huawei mate 20 pro had the ATP feature but never started playing muzak in my pocket.
Samsung...good hardware plagued by half-baked software.
Ipse_Tase said:
Let us know your conclusion...I went the EXACT ane route (before finding this post): disable ATP and created a routine button to disable double tap to wake when I take the phone out for a walk.
Seems to be working, but it's another source of frustration as my previous Huawei mate 20 pro had the ATP feature but never started playing muzak in my pocket.
Samsung...good hardware plagued by half-baked software.
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The Huawei mate 20 has much more major issues than our SK allies flagship phones do in more ways than one
I don't have these issues on the 10+ unless a put the phone facing my leg on the display side.
You should have a good case that has side protectors slightly higher than the display plus end display protection in the case ie Zizo Bolt case. Otherwise a face plant can easily destroy the display. These phones need case protection... before they kiss the concrete.
This also help stop accidental touches both when on and off. It makes the phone easier to hold and use as well.
Face the display away from your body. That should be more than enough...
If it's really still a problem limit display timeout to 1 minute.
Use only the power button or volume control buttons to activate the phone.
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Use a case clip holster.
Ipse_Tase said:
Let us know your conclusion...I went the EXACT ane route (before finding this post): disable ATP and created a routine button to disable double tap to wake when I take the phone out for a walk.
Seems to be working, but it's another source of frustration as my previous Huawei mate 20 pro had the ATP feature but never started playing muzak in my pocket.
Samsung...good hardware plagued by half-baked software.
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Well, in conclusion I can only say that the setup is working... Haven't changed anything since then and no accidental pocket mishaps yet. ATP and Double tap to wake are still off.
BTW, your idea of a Bixby routine trigger to disable double tap when heading out to walk is quite neat