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Okay first off, I hate to start one of these threads, since it's basically an opinionated question. The GS4 is a no go for me, really don't like physical buttons. Currently looking for a gsm replacement on tmobile for my Galaxy Nexus. The only thing holding me back from getting the Xperia Z is the lack of a huge development community (and possibly reports of poor screen performance). Just curious if anyone who's used these devices could weigh in with their experience. I'd prefer to hear first hand accounts than continue to read expert reviews.
Thanks everyone!
Also, mods if this kind of post isn't allowed on xda anymore, my apologies, please remove it.
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crimson12 said:
Okay first off, I hate to start one of these threads, since it's basically an opinionated question. The GS4 is a no go for me, really don't like physical buttons. Currently looking for a gsm replacement on tmobile for my Galaxy Nexus. The only thing holding me back from getting the Xperia Z is the lack of a huge development community (and possibly reports of poor screen performance). Just curious if anyone who's used these devices could weigh in with their experience. I'd prefer to hear first hand accounts than continue to read expert reviews.
Thanks everyone!
Also, mods if this kind of post isn't allowed on xda anymore, my apologies, please remove it.
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I went from a Galaxy Nexus to a Nexus 4, then had the same decision as you.
In terms of screen, the HTC One's has better viewing angles, no doubt about it, so does the Nexus 4 and Galaxy Nexus. In actual usage, on the latest firmware that improves blacks, it doesn't really matter that much. When actually looking at images, I compared the screens side by side and the Xperia Z seems to have a sharpness or vibrancy that the HTC One's doesnt. I really think the reviews overcook the view angle issue, it nearly put me off.
If you're used to the on screen buttons of AOSP, then I think the HTC one would be really irritating. That was a major factor for me, the quick swipe up from the middle launch of google now is also retained on the Xperia Z.
I found the HTC One difficult to hold, the edges seemed really sharp and hard, and the phone was quite slippery. At the same time the Xperia Z is also quite uncomfortable, but it doesn't feel like it is going to slide out of your hand. The power button placement is also much better on the Xperia Z.
The speaker is definitely much better on the HTC One, that said, the Nexus 4 is much better than the Galaxy Nexus, and the Xperia Z's speaker sounds better than the Nexus 4. So the Xperia Z isn't bad. I hold my phone with my left hand so it doesn't block the speaker, but if you hold your phone with your right hand and play music, then you will muffle the speaker.
I'm sure the HTC One is slightly faster due to newer processor but I don't think this matters that much, both will be fast.
I disliked sense 5 coming from AOSP, hated not being able to remove blink feed (find it really frustrating even though you can move it to a different home screen). The Sony customisations are actually an improvement on AOSP, things which frustrate me are fixed and also there are some other nice additions like location based wifi, bravia engine, wifi syncing with media go. The Sony Gallery called Albums is much much better than AOSP, the Walkman app is really good as is the Movies app. I never used built in apps before but I do here, I haven't installed MX Player.
The better camera in good light is undoubtedly the Xperia Z. I'm an amateur photographer (although street photographer so not much of a pixel peeper) and I'm impressed with the Xperia Z. Again the Nexus 4 is a step up from the Galaxy Nexus and the Xperia Z is much better. I haven't taken many pictures low light but I won't argue that the HTC One will provide better photos, the HTC also takes better videos and has Zoe which is cool (was one of the reasons the HTC One was attractive to me). Front camera is better on the Xperia Z than either the Galaxy Nexus or Nexus 4, the HTC One's is wider than the Z's if that matters to you.
The battery life I've been seeing has been pretty good, eg, if you're playing an mp4 film, I was seeing about 25% drop for 2 hours of watching the film. It's much better than the Nexus 4 which is a bit better than the Galaxy Nexus. Apparently the HTC One has a better battery life, I've never tested it though.
The Xperia Z has Micro SD slot which is great for music and films, I missed that owning the recent Nexus phones.
The last major point is the Xperia Z is water resistant, which is priceless, not because I want to take it under water but because it's nice having a life proof phone that you don't have to worry touching when you have wet hands or worried that rain will get into etc. It's a relaxing phone to own.
I only got the phone last weekend, the HTC One was the same price and I'm very happy with the phone and that I made the right choice for me.
Well thanks for that really in depth review. The more I think about it, the more I really want the Xperia. The water resistance factor hit me today while missing several calls walking through a downpour. I'm sure no matter what I end up getting, it will still be a step up from the gnex (which isn't actually in need of replacing, I'd just like something new). Hopefully T-Mobile releases the phone soon as the leaks suggest. I think I'd rather pay monthly for it than fork over the 500+ now. Thanks again
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Well thanks for that really in depth review. The more I think about it, the more I really want the Xperia. The water resistance factor hit me today while missing several calls walking through a downpour. I'm sure no matter what I end up getting, it will still be a step up from the gnex (which isn't actually in need of replacing, I'd just like something new). Hopefully T-Mobile releases the phone soon as the leaks suggest. I think I'd rather pay monthly for it than fork over the 500+ now. Thanks again
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The best you could do is to actually go to a shop and play with those two phones for some time and then decide.
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crimson12 said:
Okay first off, I hate to start one of these threads, since it's basically an opinionated question. The GS4 is a no go for me, really don't like physical buttons. Currently looking for a gsm replacement on tmobile for my Galaxy Nexus. The only thing holding me back from getting the Xperia Z is the lack of a huge development community (and possibly reports of poor screen performance). Just curious if anyone who's used these devices could weigh in with their experience. I'd prefer to hear first hand accounts than continue to read expert reviews.
Thanks everyone!
Also, mods if this kind of post isn't allowed on xda anymore, my apologies, please remove it.
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I expect the development community that it will continue to develop and grow larger with more mods.
This is one good things about the Z.
The screen on my Xperia Z is completely fine and I don't notice any problems with it
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...The only thing holding me back from getting the Xperia Z is the lack of a huge development community...
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Agree completely with uberlaggydarwin.
Fact is, compared to most (non-Nexus perhaps) phones. Much more actual development gets done such as actual "fixes" for problems and not just hacky workarounds. We still have a way to go towards complete AOSP, theres one or two driver blobs still required for example, and a few minor bugs. But with (almost) every day that passes there are new platform-specific patches submitted to the CyanogenMod device repo on github and if I'm reading them correctly we have already, or will very soon, have a blob-less driver powering WiFi.
I must say, coming from a non-Nexus device it is a relief to see this much actual development and not just WinZip-wielding 10yr olds mashing together ROMs with 10,000 unnecessary hacks that make them laggy and/or unstable.
...a little torn on the screen though. As everyone is saying it is beautiful to look at from the front and probably (from this angle) the best mobile screen I have used, but again, as mentioned, the viewing angles are sub-optimal.
Too add my egg to the basket... I too am coming from a Gnex, which i loved. Been owning the XZ for roughly 3 months now. The screen angle thingy is definitely exaggerated. The colours and the viewing angles will take some getting used to, coming from an amoled screen, but the sharpness and clarity definitely make the transition much more pleasant.
The camera is undoubtedly much much better then on the Gnex, which was my only gripe with it. As to the HTC, I would wager the XZ one better for my taste, but thats only based on reviews, no hands on :/
The battery life has been stable enough for me, for my use... they both lasted about 2 days, Gnex maybe a bit better, HTC again cannot comment.
As far as the build quality... there have been some issues if u read the forms and from my case - the flap on the charging port doesn't wanna stay closed anymore In this case I would say HTC is better. It also prefers on your design preferences.
For me, leaving my Gnex behind for the XZ was actually not that hard of a step. U will have to get used to less development as compared to the nexus devices but that doesn't mean there isn't any. Free xperia team are awesome and CM is coming along nicely and with it a whole bunch of other roms, from PAC, PA, AOKP and independent AOSP projects, so no fear there
In any case, ull get a wonderfull new phone, whichever u choose and I hope u enjoy it!
I guess in terms of development, I definitely prefer actual dev work over tons of roms that are almost the same. Out of curiosity, any soft key mods yet? I have mine set to RECENTS HOME BACK and having been like this for almost 2 years I'd rather not have to relearn default (honestly minor issue I'm just being picky).
I would love to go to the store and compare them as someone has said, but I can't find anywhere local that sells the Xperia Z.
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Even since the update the screen on the z has been great and really great to see in bright sunlight how I noticed today using it in sunlight yeah Germany didn't had the best weather as of late lol anyway I also don't think the viewing angle are a huge deal. I still see just fine what is on the display and actually Sony here in Berlin told me that the viewing angle is extra made a little darker so not everyone just can look and see stuff that easy on the screen if u don't want them too. Even so I think the viewing angle o's fine. Never had any issues seeing anything. Battery has been great as long as not being used with mobile data. All phones seem to get sucked dry in no time using Mobile data. At home with WiFi I can easily get 2 days.
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Any idea what kind of battery life you guys get with mobile data enabled? I currently get about 16 hours with 2.5ish hours of screen on time with my gnex.
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With my Gnex I get about the same as you. 2,5-3 hours of screen on time per day on auto-brightness. With my Xperia Z I can get 4-5 hours of screen time per day, depending on brightness (0%) and usage. With auto-brightness I get like 3 hours per day. But with light usage I can easily make it trough 2 days with my Z. My Gnex never lasts that long, even when I almost don't use it.
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Any idea what kind of battery life you guys get with mobile data enabled? I currently get about 16 hours with 2.5ish hours of screen on time with my gnex.
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crimson12 said:
Okay first off, I hate to start one of these threads, since it's basically an opinionated question. The GS4 is a no go for me, really don't like physical buttons. Currently looking for a gsm replacement on tmobile for my Galaxy Nexus. The only thing holding me back from getting the Xperia Z is the lack of a huge development community (and possibly reports of poor screen performance). Just curious if anyone who's used these devices could weigh in with their experience. I'd prefer to hear first hand accounts than continue to read expert reviews.
Thanks everyone!
Also, mods if this kind of post isn't allowed on xda anymore, my apologies, please remove it.
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XZ and HTC one is neck and neck for me, I dont like sense one bit, havent touch the device but i had prior HTC devices and I can tell ya sense really suck other wise i think the HTC one won in every aspect. if you looking to go CM10.1 then i would go HTC one if you looking to stay stock i would choose XZ.
P.S I dont like the physical key either damn samsung for starting that in the S3
I am kind of new to android, and just got my Z. But one thing i can say is: Phoning while showering is so chilled.
Why haven't I thought of this?! You're a genius mate, gonna do that tonight! Lols
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Battery life on data is not that good actually. Well I would say when listening music. Somehow the mediaserver always comes with on and even after turning off music it still drains the battery. Just a reboot fixes that. Listen barely to music on the phone anymore.
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Battery life on data is not that good actually. Well I would say when listening music. Somehow the mediaserver always comes with on and even after turning off music it still drains the battery. Just a reboot fixes that. Listen barely to music on the phone anymore.
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That's really unfortunate. I primarily use Spotify on my phone for several hours a day.
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I'm having a blast with my Xperia Z.
Lots of fantastic ROMS in development...
Never noticed anything with regards to "viewing angles" i'm one of these freaks that tends to look at my phone head on.
With my own custom setup and settings i'm getting a full days use out of my phone.
I'm getting a whole day's battery life with heavy usage. Internet, Web, Whatsapp, Youtube, Camera etc.
Some people submerse their phones and have no problem, but i'm happy jsut treating my phone as resistant not proof.
I can reply to text messages in the bath with wet hands etc.
Build quality is fantastic. The best out at the minute i feel. Feels like a slab of glass! :fingers-crossed:
If you get one, buy a dock straight away, saves wear and tear on your charging ports.flaps.
I did that right away with my XZ when i bought it dock to charge,back n front glas protection this baby is amazing especially the White one my friend asked me to traid it for his Htc One,guess what,nop i said
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I've recently bought an HTC Butterfly S (901s) and I must admit it's a wonderful device.
Having owned an HTC One too, I wanted to have all its good stuff with a bigger screen, bigger battery and expandable storage.
Well, to me the Butterfly S does the magic: it has "almost" everything and more (aluminum unibody design aside of course!)
Well, today I just discovered that something else must be added to the "almost" session: the OIS. I though the Butterfly S had exactly the same camera module the HTC One has, while now I see the OIS is not present. That's a pity, although nothing too dramatic to me, I'd rather have the expandable storage and other stuff.
Anyway, with this post I just wanted to find out other things the Butterfly S misses in respect to the HTC One.
The first thing that comes to my mind is the HAAC mic. I've been searching this info everywhere with no luck (there seems to be very few info about this device!), does any of you know for sure if these kind of mics are missing or they are used into the Butterfly S?
Another hardware diff may be about RAM type: is it LPDDR2 or LPDDR3?
Thanks in advance
Just try to record some very loud music with your Butterfly S and you will know if it has the HDR mic. I also want to find out about this as that will decide which device to get.
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Just try to record some very loud music with your Butterfly S and you will know if it has the HDR mic. I also want to find out about this as that will decide which device to get.
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I am deciding to get HTC Butterfly S or HTC One... any advise?
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I am deciding to get HTC Butterfly S or HTC One... any advise?
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I think the biggest factor is the build - the Butterfly S has a glossy plastic build that's finished like a car paint while the One comes with the famous aluminium body of which the chamfers around the edges are susceptible to dents upon impact. I see a lot of value for the grey variant of the Butterfly S - best looking plastic phone (but that's purely personal opinion). As for the battery life, the One probably has enough for a day for most people but having 3200mAh in the Butterfly S does assure you that you can get through a day regardless of what you do. Whichever the case, I still have not made my purchase yet - still struggling like you. LOL!
I got a vouchers from my telco (StarHub) and will expire on the 1st Sep... so I still do have some time to think. Samsung S4 will be my third choice... their keyboard is not as good as HTC though and heard it lags.
I like the battery factor and expandable storage for Butterfly S. How how how?!
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I got a vouchers from my telco (StarHub) and will expire on the 1st Sep... so I still do have some time to think. Samsung S4 will be my third choice... their keyboard is not as good as HTC though and heard it lags.
I like the battery factor and expandable storage for Butterfly S. How how how?!
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Lucky you, your telco is StarHub. M1's prices are just off putting. And yeah, the battery life is really good, easily can last you the whole day on a single charge.
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I got a vouchers from my telco (StarHub) and will expire on the 1st Sep... so I still do have some time to think. Samsung S4 will be my third choice... their keyboard is not as good as HTC though and heard it lags.
I like the battery factor and expandable storage for Butterfly S. How how how?!
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With the variety of third party keyboards available that performs better than stock and allow u to sync your dictionary across devices, stock keyboards should not be a deciding factor imo.
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Lucky you, your telco is StarHub. M1's prices are just off putting. And yeah, the battery life is really good, easily can last you the whole day on a single charge.
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But are you using one now? What colour did you get? So you are using M1? How much did you pay for your phone?
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I am deciding to get HTC Butterfly S or HTC One... any advise?
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I currently have the Butterfly S and previously had the One. The One was a wonderful phone and the reason I changed was... well, I got it stolen... So I decided to try the new Butterfly S that was just released.
Both are really nice devices, but if I was to decide which I prefer, I think I like the Butterfly S just because of the larger battery (and the expandable storage a plus). The build quality of the One is much better, but I usually use a case so it's usually not really noticeable. I'm also not too crazy about taking pictures so the missing OIS doesn't bother me too much either. It'll just going to be quicks snaps and if I really wanted to take nice pictures I'll use my professional camera.
It's bulkier and heavier in my pocket, but it's just something I'll have to live with.
Oh a BIG factor for me would be LTE. It supports it here in Asia, but I think it doesn't support LTE in the US? In that case, I think I would consider the One.
Between the GS4 and the One, I think the One is cooler
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With the variety of third party keyboards available that performs better than stock and allow u to sync your dictionary across devices, stock keyboards should not be a deciding factor imo.
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Yes I agree... pardon me... I am very new to Android and yet to own one as a matter of fact!
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But are you using one now? What colour did you get? So you are using M1? How much did you pay for your phone?
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Yeah using it now in red colour on M1. What I did was to recontract for an iPhone 5, brought it down to mobilesquare, traded in and topped up for the butterfly s. All in all only paid $170, much better than paying the cut throat price of M1's.
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I currently have the Butterfly S and previously had the One. The One was a wonderful phone and the reason I changed was... well, I got it stolen... So I decided to try the new Butterfly S that was just released.
Both are really nice devices, but if I was to decide which I prefer, I think I like the Butterfly S just because of the larger battery (and the expandable storage a plus). The build quality of the One is much better, but I usually use a case so it's usually not really noticeable. I'm also not too crazy about taking pictures so the missing OIS doesn't bother me too much either. It'll just going to be quicks snaps and if I really wanted to take nice pictures I'll use my professional camera.
It's bulkier and heavier in my pocket, but it's just something I'll have to live with.
Oh a BIG factor for me would be LTE. It supports it here in Asia, but I think it doesn't support LTE in the US? In that case, I think I would consider the One.
Between the GS4 and the One, I think the One is cooler
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Missing OIS... Hmmm... what does it do? Any comparison picture out there?
And yes, thankfully here in Singapore, the units here supports LTE!
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Missing OIS... Hmmm... what does it do? Any comparison picture out there?
And yes, thankfully here in Singapore, the units here supports LTE!
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I had to think about what OIS was. It's Optical Image Stabilization. I have both the One and Butterfly S and I hadn't noticed a difference. Actually, I took a shot with the S in pretty dim light and it was pretty sharp (although somewhat noisy but on par with the other phones or even better). So I would say it might not matter in real life terms. The camera settings still lets you choose "anti-shake" so I don't know why that is if there is no OIS.
But I'll tell you something funny, I think the S seems to expose the pictures better...
The S doesn't have the physical "wow" of the One when you pick it up, but in most things it is a more practical phone, so I prefer using it right now over the One.
Ken
After much consideration, I had gotten myself one silver HTC Butterfly S and so far loving it!
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I had to think about what OIS was. It's Optical Image Stabilization. I have both the One and Butterfly S and I hadn't noticed a difference. Actually, I took a shot with the S in pretty dim light and it was pretty sharp (although somewhat noisy but on par with the other phones or even better). So I would say it might not matter in real life terms. The camera settings still lets you choose "anti-shake" so I don't know why that is if there is no OIS.
But I'll tell you something funny, I think the S seems to expose the pictures better...
The S doesn't have the physical "wow" of the One when you pick it up, but in most things it is a more practical phone, so I prefer using it right now over the One.
Ken
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If anyone is interested in comparison photos between One (with OIS) and Butterfly S (without OIS), I found the site http://www.max-up.ru/news-apple/htc-butterfly-s-vs-htc-one.html
Although it's in Russian, you can compare the photos, which were shooted by One and Butterfly S.
Here a good comparative in benchmarks amongst One and others
Well, i'm glad i found this thread, as i just bought my HTC One Stealth Black yesterday and since i've already did my homework on which one to buy, compared to the Butterfly S, i wanted to share my views and opinions. By the way, i buy all my devices unlocked (international), so for me, carrier or 4G LTE availability is not an issue.
Butterfly S v/s One
Advantages of using the newer Butterfly S:
- Faster CPU (it's actually the exact same Snapdragon 600 as in the HTC One, but just overclocked and i believe there are apps which allow you to overclock your HTC One to boost it from 1.7 GHz to 1.9 GHz. The GPU stays the same with the Adreno 320 on both devices. On a side note, if HTC had implemented a Snapdragon 800 into the newer Butterfly S, it would have been a different story.)
- Bigger display (it's 5" versus HTC One's 4.7", which isn't a huge difference in my opinion. I've seen both phones side by side and given that you are sacrificing the One's industry-leading PPI record of 468 to Butterfly S's 441, i'd say you're not losing if you go with either one of them. But it's definitely very cool to say that you own the device with the highest PPI until now and probably till the end of 2013. Having a slightly bigger 5" display is not worth singing any praise about, unless you happen to own an Xperia Z Ultra with 6.44" - lol)
- Removable microSD storage (it's a trade-off with respect to the One, as you get half the amount of internal memory, which is faster than external memory and 32 GB is more than enough for the average user - i personally have 25 GB left on my One which i'm trying to fill up with some worthy 1080p movies and games)
- 3 capacitive buttons (versus the One's 2 buttons. OK, i admit i got a gripe with HTC due to this limitation, but then it's not exceptionally annoying and stressful that you can't live without. Double-tap more and get your fingers some exercise or just root and install the feature that enables your HTC logo to become a third capacitive button - problem solved!)
- Bigger battery (This seems to be the most common deciding factor for those considering to buy the best HTC phone (or simply put, the best phone) available right now. HTC One doesn't exhibit any particular weakness with its battery for the average user which lasts a day or more. But for heavy users or people who travel a lot, then the Butterfly S becomes the obvious choice. However, HTC One has a Power Saver mode which works really well, which i thought might be worth mentioning. Also, bigger battery means a beefier device which adds weight to your pocket. If you don't mind the extra weight and really need more juice to keep the lights on, then go for the Butterfly S)
- Gorilla Glass 3 (versus Gorilla Glass 2 on the One. This is not worth factoring into your decision to get either of these devices, as in my honest opinion, the strength of the Gorilla Glass 2 is already excellent by today's standards and Gorilla Glass 3 shatters just as Gorilla 2 in the exact same drop tests. I have yet to see a Gorilla Glass 3 device survive a drop test where a Gorilla Glass 2 device has failed in real life (not the testing done by Corning at the exhibitions where they have a simple piece of their newer glass under pressure from a clamp or dropping a metal ball on it and then tell you that the newer glass is better). Although i have to agree that having the latest glass on your device is always nice and comforting.)
Advantages of using the HTC One:
- Highest display resolution currently available on any smartphone.
- 32 GB internal memory (versus 16 GB on the Butterfly S) which is fastest when copying/loading/installing apps or games or anything else, for that matter.
- Gorgeous aluminium metal build (it gives the HTC One a unique look and feel among all other phones out there, including the plastic Butterfly S)
- Optical Image Stabilization in the One's camera (which is missing from the Butterfly S)
- And i've kept the best reason for last, which really gave me a huge push to go for the HTC One - since you're already on XDA, check out the forums for both of these devices and based on the number of threads and replies, you should easily be able to spot the big difference in developer support. Most importantly, there is the existence of the HTC One Google Edition. There is no (and never will have a) Google Edition for the Butterfly S. Basically, what does that mean? Don't expect anything other than minor updates and bug fixes once 2013 is over as HTC will obviously be backing its new line-up of 2014 flagship smartphones - but if you own an HTC One, you can ditch the stock ROM (by 2014, it'll be outdated when Sense 6.0 comes out and all of 2013's devices are left to run on Sense 5.x) and still stay at the forefront of the Android scene by rooting and installing the official HTC One Google Edition ROM, which works perfectly. There is no waiting time for XDA developers to adapt the GE ROM to your international HTC One. You can basically turn your HTC One with Sense into a 100% working HTC One Google Edition. Even OTA works! The other Google Edition phone (Galaxy S4, shhh) unlike HTC One, cannot benefit from a direct installation of its GE ROM variant (i9505G), as there are differences in hardware which requires an XDA developer to stitch things up and OTA doesn't work so you'll have to wait weeks or months after a new Android version is released before you can install a stable version of the latest pure Android ROM on your S4 (This applies only to the i9505 as the Exynos is a mess with missing drivers, but that's for another topic in another section of the forum).
So, that's it, folks! I hope you found my review and analysis helpful. Please leave some feedback and feel free to discuss if you agree or not.
So your saying that the HTC ONE is better
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daorderdillon said:
So your saying that the HTC ONE is better
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i interpret the comments as "the HTC One is better for him/her"..
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So your saying that the HTC ONE is better
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In my case, the HTC One is definitely the one, since i ended up buying the HTC One over the Butterfly S. The difference in price between these two handsets is negligible considering that you're already going to spend a lot to get either the HTC One or the Butterfly S. But i have exhaustively discussed my point of view in my previous post above, so feel free to disagree if you feel that i was partial to the HTC One in my comparative analysis or if i missed any other important aspect(s) worth mentioning.
Hey guys I'm about to buy an HTC One .. I'm a student and it took me a lot of time and hard work to get the money ... I need an honest advice from you guys plz
1. What's this problem with the Camera having a purple/pink tint ?? Is it a wide range problem ? A lot of users have it ? Or just some faulty devices ?
2. I heard that it overheats a lot .. is that true ? And if yes then when exactly does that happen ?? Games ? Or just excessive use ?
Thanks in advance to everybody who will answer .. much appreciated !!
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Hey guys I'm about to buy an HTC One .. I'm a student and it took me a lot of time and hard work to get the money ... I need an honest advice from you guys plz
1. What's this problem with the Camera having a purple/pink tint ?? Is it a wide range problem ? A lot of users have it ? Or just some faulty devices ?
2. I heard that it overheats a lot .. is that true ? And if yes then when exactly does that happen ?? Games ? Or just excessive use ?
Thanks in advance to everybody who will answer .. much appreciated !!
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I don't have any problems with my device.the camera is great for taking pics with it's wide angle lens. (You can get so much into a single pic) my phone had become hot sometimes when I was on 4.2 but since upgrading to sense 4.3 (leaked) I had not had any problems with heat whatsoever
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Hiken_Ace said:
Hey guys I'm about to buy an HTC One .. I'm a student and it took me a lot of time and hard work to get the money ... I need an honest advice from you guys plz
1. What's this problem with the Camera having a purple/pink tint ?? Is it a wide range problem ? A lot of users have it ? Or just some faulty devices ?
2. I heard that it overheats a lot .. is that true ? And if yes then when exactly does that happen ?? Games ? Or just excessive use ?
Thanks in advance to everybody who will answer .. much appreciated !!
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Hi,
1) I (we) don't really know, software or hardware issue... , I have not this issue personally (HTC black), maybe take a look here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2317507 for more info...
Even after updated to Android 4.2.2, custom kernel, etc... I never had this pink tint...
2) No overheating here... It's clear that play an heavy game while charging and yes your One will overheated..., ambient temperature plays its role, overclocking too...
Browsing in 3/4g in sun or while charging is the same thing (even without sun/charging LOL, same thing for all phone with a beast of CPU), quadcore at 1.72 Ghz, simple... It inevitably heats but ther is a different between heat and overheat.
There is a difference between the "overheating" you feel and the real temperature of both CPU/battery checked by an app. Without any real temperature report the overheating is subjective... With stock or custom kernel I never had temperature issues.
In any case there are some overheating protection (thermal throttling) and with a custom kernel that allows some thermal settings, you can increase the thermal throttling so less heat... and even undercloked/undervolted and that can help a little...
Maybe I'm lucky and I speak, maybe, only for me, but I have no issues as above for my One (black HTC One from June)...
EDIT: ok it's not about the HTC One, but generally about overheating for a quadcore (S4). It's about the LG nexus 4 known for overheating:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2372733
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2214629
Read all...
After all that it depends of your usage, the One is an awesome device (I came from a Galaxy SIII and I've always my Nexus 4), but depending of your use maybe there is better. I think about pictures... In lowh light the One is far better than a Galaxy SIV, but in "normal" use... Maybe not. It's like the screen, the "formfactor", the "overlay" (Sense vs Touchwiz), etc...
I think I've been around, at least for me
viking37 said:
Hi,
1) I (we) don't really know, software or hardware issue... , I have not this issue personally (HTC black), maybe take a look here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2317507 for more info...
Even after updated to Android 4.2.2, custom kernel, etc... I never had this pink tint...
2) No overheating here... It's clear that play an heavy game while charging and yes your One will overheated..., ambient temperature plays its role, overclocking too...
Browsing in 3/4g in sun or while charging is the same thing (even without sun/charging LOL, same thing for all phone with a beast of CPU), quadcore at 1.72 Ghz, simple... It inevitably heats but ther is a different between heat and overheat.
There is a difference between the "overheating" you feel and the real temperature of both CPU/battery checked by an app. Without any real temperature report the overheating is subjective... With stock or custom kernel I never had temperature issued.
In any case there are some overheating protection (thermal throttling) and with a custom kernel that allows some thermal settings, you can increase the thermal throttling so less heat... and even undercloked/undervolted and that can help a little...
Maybe I'm lucky and I speak, maybe, only for me, but I have no issues as above for my One (black HTC One from June)...
EDIT: ok it's not about the HTC One, but generally about overheating for a quadcore (S4). It's about the LG nexus 4 known for overheating:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2372733
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2214629
Read all...
After all that it depends of your usage, the One is an awesome device (I came from a Galaxy SIII and I've always my Nexus 4), but depending of your use maybe there is better. I think about pictures... In lowh light the One is far better than a Galaxy SIV, but in "normal" use... Maybe not. It's like the screen, the "formfactor", the "overlay" (Sense vs Touchwiz), etc...
I think I've been around, at least for me
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Thanx for the detailed answer it was really helpful .. and Yeh I'm choosing HTC mainly cuz I got used to the UI ..its very practical and easy to use ... It's just that this pink camera is scaring me .. a lot of people complaining about it :/
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I don't have any problems with my device.the camera is great for taking pics with it's wide angle lens. (You can get so much into a single pic) my phone had become hot sometimes when I was on 4.2 but since upgrading to sense 4.3 (leaked) I had not had any problems with heat whatsoever
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Thank u very much much appreciated
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I live in a very hot state in the U.S. and I browse while in the sun and listen to music as it does get hot no more than I suspect it would, in face less than expected. My sgs3 would get to 125° on the regular with the same situations, the HTC One got to 122° so far. No camera issues for me either. I say go for it, play with it for a while heavily in the conditions you're used to and make your final decision before having your 14 day (or whatever it may be for you) grace period gone.
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I live in a very hot state in the U.S. and I browse while in the sun and listen to music as it does get hot no more than I suspect it would, in face less than expected. My sgs3 would get to 125° on the regular with the same situations, the HTC One got to 122° so far. No camera issues for me either. I say go for it, play with it for a while heavily in the conditions you're used to and make your final decision before having your 14 day (or whatever it may be for you) grace period gone.
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Thanx a lot much appreciated
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Hiken_Ace said:
Hey guys I'm about to buy an HTC One .. I'm a student and it took me a lot of time and hard work to get the money ... I need an honest advice from you guys plz
1. What's this problem with the Camera having a purple/pink tint ?? Is it a wide range problem ? A lot of users have it ? Or just some faulty devices ?
2. I heard that it overheats a lot .. is that true ? And if yes then when exactly does that happen ?? Games ? Or just excessive use ?
Thanks in advance to everybody who will answer .. much appreciated !!
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I have no issue with the camera so can't comment on that.
The phone frequently feels warm in your hand and that's because of the aluminium body; this acts as the heatsink for the internals so the heat is transferred to the body which is actually a benefit you don't get on a plastic body. Although it can feel warm/hot in the hand a check of the temperatures will show it's well within safety limits. It can overheat doing things like gaming whilst charging or running a nav program whilst charging but in severe cases overheat protection will kick in to prevent damage.
I have a camera with purple tint issue and it is not because of heat.
Until now the issue is not resolved by HTC. Some users got a perfect camera when they bought it, but a few months later their camera became defective without any reason.
So, if camera is a main point for you, you better rethink again. Also don't forget to check after sales service in your country. In my country, it is terrible. Been waiting camara's part for almost 3 months, still no news.
You can also check purple tint thread in this forum for more info.
I have this phone for a couple of months now and I am satisfied with it but there are some things to consider.
1. The issue with the camera is difficult in a way that it is subjective, and it takes a little bit of trying to replicate. So there might be guys saying they don't have it because they simply haven't noticed it. However looking at the poll in the widely know post about that issue, clearly tells me it is a general thing, even taking into account guys that deny it. Our best bet now is that it is due to sensor overheating.
When I first saw that thread myself, I have tried what the guys were saying. Was covering the lens, was shooting dark photos and I came to conclusion that mine camera is fine, but it either grow on me or the sensor got damaged over time as now I can clearly see the issue.
2. I am using GPE rom on it and while it is very nice and all, now when I think about it - the phone is as good as the software on it. If I was living in the US and could buy Nexus 4 for that cheap I would definitely choose Nexus 4, and then with saved money update to another Google device. Here in Europe the difference in price between Nexus 4 and Htc One is not that big. That being said, if you are going to use GPE rom on it and value your money, Nexus 4 is a better option in my opinion.
However if you want better specs and want a device that will last you a little bit longer then Htc One is perfectly fine.
3. If you are not going to use GPE rom but the stock Sense one then I gotta tell you that it is very solid. It is so much better than TouchWiz that this is crazy.
4. The quality control at HTC seems to be low. If you want a perfect device with no gaps with no recessed buttons, with the display that is perfectly aligned with the rest of the body, prepare yourself that this might not happen on the first try.
Ciebiada said:
I have this phone for a couple of months now and I am satisfied with it but there are some things to consider.
1. The issue with the camera is difficult in a way that it is subjective, and it takes a little bit of trying to replicate. So there might be guys saying they don't have it because they simply haven't noticed it. However looking at the poll in the widely know post about that issue, clearly tells me it is a general thing, even taking into account guys that deny it. Our best bet now is that it is due to sensor overheating.
When I first saw that thread myself, I have tried what the guys were saying. Was covering the lens, was shooting dark photos and I came to conclusion that mine camera is fine, but it either grow on me or the sensor got damaged over time as now I can clearly see the issue.
2. I am using GPE rom on it and while it is very nice and all, now when I think about it - the phone is as good as the software on it. If I was living in the US and could buy Nexus 4 for that cheap I would definitely choose Nexus 4, and then with saved money update to another Google device. Here in Europe the difference in price between Nexus 4 and Htc One is not that big. That being said, if you are going to use GPE rom on it and value your money, Nexus 4 is a better option in my opinion.
However if you want better specs and want a device that will last you a little bit longer then Htc One is perfectly fine.
3. If you are not going to use GPE rom but the stock Sense one then I gotta tell you that it is very solid. It is so much better than TouchWiz that this is crazy.
4. The quality control at HTC seems to be low. If you want a perfect device with no gaps with no recessed buttons, with the display that is perfectly aligned with the rest of the body, prepare yourself that this might not happen on the first try.
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Much appreciated mate ! Was really helpful !! I think I'm going to wait a little bit .. just to see how HTC is going to react to the camera thingy
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Hi there,
It does "overheat" but still stays alive.
Also when u make over 500 pictures in a very short time (I did 5x 100 quick burst shot pictures) my phone heats up very much and I get that big purple dot. Goes away quick after cooling my phone down.
I also have not experienced any problems with my camera. I guess the ones that have a camera that's okay don't feel the need to comment on that thread, making it look like almost everyone has it.
And yes, it does get warm at times. It shouldn't get any hotter than, say, a Galaxy S4 (same processor, but slightly higher clocked), but it is possible that it's easier to feel because of the aluminium design. If you wouldn't feel the warmth, it'd mean all the warmth stays inside the device, which in turn is bad for the processor.
htcm7 said:
I have a camera with purple tint issue and it is not because of heat.
Until now the issue is not resolved by HTC. Some users got a perfect camera when they bought it, but a few months later their camera became defective without any reason.
So, if camera is a main point for you, you better rethink again. Also don't forget to check after sales service in your country. In my country, it is terrible. Been waiting camara's part for almost 3 months, still no news.
You can also check purple tint thread in this forum for more info.
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can you plz tell me where did you buy your phone from and when ?
Hey all,
I recently picked up a Note 3 but I'm really unhappy with Samsung's interface and layout of it's hardware buttons and so I'm think of returning it and getting something else. The HTC One has always been appealing but I was a not fan of it's lack of external storage and small battery. I recently found out about the Butterfly S and it seems to address of the issues that I had with the One. I'm a big fan of HTC's interface and so I'm wondering if still makes sense to buy a Snapdragon 600 device now the SD800 devices are on the market. I know specs aren't everything as I have gone back to my Nexus 4 and even tho that device is way lower spec'd than the Note 3 it performs a whole lot better. I'm not a big phone gamer and I mainly use my device to surf the web, read twitter, watch videos and read comics. Mainly I want to know how smooth is the interface(is it as good the Nexus 4) and how good is the battery life? Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.
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Hey all,
I recently picked up a Note 3 but I'm really unhappy with Samsung's interface and layout of it's hardware buttons and so I'm think of returning it and getting something else. The HTC One has always been appealing but I was a not fan of it's lack of external storage and small battery. I recently found out about the Butterfly S and it seems to address of the issues that I had with the One. I'm a big fan of HTC's interface and so I'm wondering if still makes sense to buy a Snapdragon 600 device now the SD800 devices are on the market. I know specs aren't everything as I have gone back to my Nexus 4 and even tho that device is way lower spec'd than the Note 3 it performs a whole lot better. I'm not a big phone gamer and I mainly use my device to surf the web, read twitter, watch videos and read comics. Mainly I want to know how smooth is the interface(is it as good the Nexus 4) and how good is the battery life? Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.
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My opinion is, by all means, go for it. The Butterfly S is a phone I'm genuinely happy with. The interface is really smooth (I only noticed a lag about two times in the whole time I've been using it) and the battery is fantastic, also refer to this thread. (My experience is that it lasts two days of medium usage and I still have about 30% left at the end of the second day.)
Anyway, it's up to you. If you like to buy a new phone every few months when a new phone is hyped up, it may be too late. Myself, I'm not comfortable shelling out hundreds of euros every month on a new phone just because it's newer and has better specs, I tend to buy a gadget (phone, laptop) and then use it for two or three years, until it gets really cumbersome. For me, the Butterfly S was almost certainly the best option at the time when I bought it.
So, all in all, if you like to switch to a new plaything often, it's probably late for you. If you intend to stick to your phone, you can't go wrong with this one.
i fully agree with koniiiik, there are just a few phones like the Butterfly S, unless you want an even bigger screen of course.
LG G2 - looks nice, snapdragon 800 and all, but i dont trust LG because of previous experience (lack of updates, had to return one phone SEVEN times for them to fix it).
Samsung Galaxy S4 - doesnt have the stamina of the Butterfly S and i prefer the Super LCD 3 screen of the Butterfly S.
Sony Xperia Z1 - very nice build quality, great screen and camera, also has the Snapdragon 800, i didnt want to wait for this phone though.
a friend of mine got one so have been able to try it, what i really dont like is how it feels in the hand, the Butterfly S feels more natural, even though its thicker.
actually, the thinness of the Z1 makes it harder to pick the phone up from the table, the BS is way easier to pick up.
and last, the Z1 is waterproof, thats nice, but also means all ports are closed with small covers, means you have to pry open the usb port to charge it, unless you buy a cradle.
LG Optimus G Pro - see G2
and none of them have the front stereo speeakers, a feature i think all phones should have
Thanks for the feedback guys. I think I'm going to jump on board.
the only reason not to buy this is the price, its quite a bit more expensive than the Z1 or S4
and ofcourse you'll have to import it if you don't live in Asia, so you probably will have to pay import tax
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the only reason not to buy this is the price, its quite a bit more expensive than the Z1 or S4
and ofcourse you'll have to import it if you don't live in Asia, so you probably will have to pay import tax
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Yeah the price is a bit high but I currently have no interest in anything that Samsung is pushing and the Z1 I heard has poor battery life and screen view angles.
i'm amazed the angles of the Z1 screen are so poor, with all the know-how Sony has put into it
and i really dont like how it feels in the hand, it doesnt feel natural, like the BS
the Z1 is only 3,5mm wider but you can really feel the difference
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i'm amazed the angles of the Z1 screen are so poor, with all the know-how Sony has put into it
and i really dont like how it feels in the hand, it doesnt feel natural, like the BS
the Z1 is only 3,5mm wider but you can really feel the difference
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Yeah the angles on the Z1 have been a big disappointment and you would think Sony of all companies would get the screen right.
I came from an Xperia Z. Horrid phone. I was just giving Sony a shot and I realize that they're exactly where they were 3 years ago. The only things that they can do are bump up the hardware, put flaps over all the ports and submerge their devices inside water tanks for show. Otherwise, they've got nothing else going for them.
My answer is yes. Get this device. You won't regret it.
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I was a BlackBerry user for the past few years and using HTC Butterfly S was perhaps the best choice mobile device I had made... enjoying it, not just because it is Android but rather of its GUI, Sense 5, battery life, expandable storage and bigger screen. Go get this device... unless like what many others said, you just want to swtich device as and when better specs come.
I also think this is the best phone ever this is a complete device i no longer have to look for a device until the next year or more. How i know this is a great device? Lol i have flashed roms but i am now back to stock and rooted and enjoying it so that should tell u something it is a monster out of the box
i dont feel the need for a different rom either, the only thing it really needed was Nova Launcher, home screens on Sense aren't customizable enough, now its perfect
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i dont feel the need for a different rom either, the only thing it really needed was Nova Launcher, home screens on Sense aren't customizable enough, now its perfect
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What customization were u looking for?
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I wanted to relocate BlinkFeed, sadly you can't have BlinkFeed on any other homescreen besides Sense. Then again, i have BlinkFeed as a shortcut, but i don't really use it, so now i don't mind that didnt work out.
But i also didn't like the app drawer and more importantly, the number of icons per screen. Now i can have 4x5 icons per screen, that is something you should be able to set in any homescreen, maybe Sense 5.5 will have this...
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I wanted to relocate BlinkFeed, sadly you can't have BlinkFeed on any other homescreen besides Sense. Then again, i have BlinkFeed as a shortcut, but i don't really use it, so now i don't mind that didnt work out.
But i also didn't like the app drawer and more importantly, the number of icons per screen. Now i can have 4x5 icons per screen, that is something you should be able to set in any homescreen, maybe Sense 5.5 will have this...
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U can set it to that
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nope, you can set the grid size for the app launcher, but not the number of icons per screen
I got my phone today and I really happy with it so far. The only that notice is that I'm getting some odd static feedback when using headphones. Is this happening for anyone else? If so how did you fix it? I have tried 3 different headphones and all are the same.
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After inspecting the jack I notice that a tiny bit of the plastic inside the jack is broken. I'm hoping Negri will be able to repair or replace it.
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I got my phone today and I really happy with it so far. The only that notice is that I'm getting some odd static feedback when using headphones. Is this happening for anyone else? If so how did you fix it? I have tried 3 different headphones and all are the same.
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After inspecting the jack I notice that a tiny bit of the plastic inside the jack is broken. I'm hoping Negri will be able to repair or replace it.
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:what:
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Datafiend said:
I got my phone today and I really happy with it so far. The only that notice is that I'm getting some odd static feedback when using headphones. Is this happening for anyone else? If so how did you fix it? I have tried 3 different headphones and all are the same.
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After inspecting the jack I notice that a tiny bit of the plastic inside the jack is broken. I'm hoping Negri will be able to repair or replace it.
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Were all headphones you tried in-ear? With in-ear headphones you may get some hiss and CPU noise, and possibly crackling with bass at highest volumes (not everyone has this problem but I have it =/). If you use high impedance over-ear headphones the hiss is almost inaudible..
The first time you use a headphone (especially one with mic input - 3 black bands on the plug) on the Butterfly s you might get some static if you spin the headphone plug, but it will go away.
To answer the question of this thread, I still think it makes sense to get one. HTC's last high-end phone with 3 buttons, future phones will only have 2 buttons and a lot of people don't like that. Unfortunately I am not sure how well HTC will be supporting updates but considering it is mostly an Asia-only product I will likely be updated faster. I really hope to see Kit-Kat on it at the least...
Yeah it has pretty much gone away. Like you said I still get static when I twist the plug in the jack. I guess I'm going to need to pick up a mic free headset. It still blows tho. I have never had this on any other phone. Other than that, this phone is fantastic.
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Is there a definitive way to tell which screen I have? I'm a proud new owner of a White Xperia Z1 but how do I know if I have the new Xperia Z1 screen or the old Xperia Z screen.
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This thread will help
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2462767
x016x said:
Is there a definitive way to tell which screen I have? I'm a proud new owner of a White Xperia Z1 but how do I know if I have the new Xperia Z1 screen or the old Xperia Z screen.
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Short answer actually, you have the Xperia Z1 screen. How do I know this? Because all Z1s come with Z1 screens...
The rumors of there being multiple different screens are for all I've seen just rumors, literally everyone has reported the same panel identifier.
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That's brilliant. I'm only asking since there was a report on GSM Arena saying that some models of the phone have the older Xperia Z screen installed with the poor viewing angles. There were scattered reports all over saying that this was true and I was only asking if there was a definite way to tell which screen you had because the viewing angles on mine did seem a little funny.
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All Z1 have bad screen
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Coming from an iPhone 5, the viewing angles on the Z1 are pretty atrocious...
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Great another pointless thread, just going to open up a can of worms for the trolls!
As the 2nd post has pointed out the thread you should of asked the question in, please close this one.
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It boils down to this, either you like the Z1 screen or you don't. That is the only reason there are reports of "bad" screens. It is the same screen, but the users that like the screen report it as being "the good screen" and those that don't like the screen, well, they have the "bad screen from the Z". Why would you need to be able to view your screen from an angle? There is literally no point.
It's so painfully obvious, why is nobody realising this?
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It boils down to this, either you like the Z1 screen or you don't. That is the only reason there are reports of "bad" screens. It is the same screen, but the users that like the screen report it as being "the good screen" and those that don't like the screen, well, they have the "bad screen from the Z". Why would you need to be able to view your screen from an angle? There is literally no point.
It's so painfully obvious, why is nobody realising this?
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I must agree here, this is a pointless thread. The OP should have searched and posted in thread where this has been discussed. I think the screen on the Z1 is more than adequate, yes viewing angles arent as good as other phones, but like myself and others have said, who on earth constantly use a phone at an angle?
Like it or not?
The thing with Z1 Is that all journalists all over the world are calling it the best phone on the market with fabulous screen and picture quality compared to all other top models.
People order them because of the test results.
So when people got them in their hands they get frustrated over the bad screens and picture quality.
We are now 4 friends that are returning them and are trying to find out what units they where testing in the media. It's obvious that it's not the same units that people on the street gets.
They have tested them side by side with units that I already have and I respect their judgement when they say Z1 has better screen and picture quality but it has to be something with the units on the market.
Even a 3 year old can see that it's not the case.
After 2 firmware updates it's still not competitive to other top units. Nobody and I mean nobody will rate Z1 over other top units if they test/compare them side by side in shops. So why did they get the good reviews??
Yes. I'm not happy.
That is because I convinced 2 people to wait and go for Z1 and now they are returnig them too.
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Like it or not?
The thing with Z1 Is that all journalists all over the world are calling it the best phone on the market with fabulous screen and picture quality compared to all other top models.
People order them because of the test results.
So when people got them in their hands they get frustrated over the bad screens and picture quality.
We are now 4 friends that are returning them and are trying to find out what units they where testing in the media. It's obvious that it's not the same units that people on the street gets.
They have tested them side by side with units that I already have and I respect their judgement when they say Z1 has better screen and picture quality but it has to be something with the units on the market.
Even a 3 year old can see that it's not the case.
After 2 firmware updates it's still not competitive to other top units. Nobody and I mean nobody will rate Z1 over other top units if they test/compare them side by side in shops. So why did they get the good reviews??
Yes. I'm not happy.
That is because I convinced 2 people to wait and go for Z1 and now they are returnig them too.
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Just let me get this straight because I'm not sure I'm following completely. Basically, you and 3 of your friends are returning mobile devices meant for use by one person at a time, because of how their screens look when you view it from an angle which you'll never actually do yourself. Did I get that right?
Have you considered the fact that from head-on the screen is actually ridiculously good? Is there some other reason here or are you just jumping on the "herp derp I can't use my phone while holding it at a 45º angle because the colours get so washed out!" bandwagon? It is literally the most ridiculous excuse I've ever heard for returning a phone which is otherwise (ok, may be exaggerating a little here) pretty much perfect in every other aspect.
You gonna go buy a Samsung with ridiculous AMOLED colours? Or an LG with silly back-buttons and hideous UI? Or maybe an HTC One with only 2 capacitive buttons and no SD-card. Ok, I am being unfair, in reality all of these phones are really good options, but I'm seriously wondering what the actual reason is for why you 4 are returning this phone.
EDIT: The reasons I personally picked the Z1 were roughly these:
Great, robust and premium feel, unmatched (in my opinion) on the mobile market today.
Simple UI with a good feel to it.
Sonys openness to developers, something only really bested by the HTC One.
The screen is great for everything except the viewing angles which I don't see as a problem during use.
On top of all of this, they have managed to make it waterproof!
I'm so happy to hear that you like your unit.
As you can see I have returned to my Note 3.
I guess the reason for returning it lies in the fact that I'm over 40 year's and my eyes need better readability and my old thumb don't like the moment to hit the side button.
I can live with the bad camera in low light, but as I use it a lot for reading documents and technical drawings it's useless.
We have compared it with so many other phones now and actually we can't find one that has so poor readability of the same website.
Why they release such quality is strange to me.
But again, it's nice to hear that you are happy and love your unit.
I actually like the side button better when I hold it up side down. All 4 units have had reboot issues, but not on latest software.
But again, why stick with a new unit when the last one was better.
I don't care what brand I use, but people that defend a poor product is normally married to the brand.
Why is the phone nearly as big as Note 3, but the screen feels/displays like a iPhone 4s?
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Let's not comment on each other.
I'm not satisfied but you are.
It's no point in trying to convince anybody to have the same opinion.
Let's just say that I like phones with buttons on the front, good screen and camera.
The screen must be crispy so that the contrast between gray on white are crystal clear.
And that the screen shall be as big as the unit.
Because of that Z1 was not for me.
Other people have other criteria so therefore there are many options out there.
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