I've recently bought an HTC Butterfly S (901s) and I must admit it's a wonderful device.
Having owned an HTC One too, I wanted to have all its good stuff with a bigger screen, bigger battery and expandable storage.
Well, to me the Butterfly S does the magic: it has "almost" everything and more (aluminum unibody design aside of course!)
Well, today I just discovered that something else must be added to the "almost" session: the OIS. I though the Butterfly S had exactly the same camera module the HTC One has, while now I see the OIS is not present. That's a pity, although nothing too dramatic to me, I'd rather have the expandable storage and other stuff.
Anyway, with this post I just wanted to find out other things the Butterfly S misses in respect to the HTC One.
The first thing that comes to my mind is the HAAC mic. I've been searching this info everywhere with no luck (there seems to be very few info about this device!), does any of you know for sure if these kind of mics are missing or they are used into the Butterfly S?
Another hardware diff may be about RAM type: is it LPDDR2 or LPDDR3?
Thanks in advance
Just try to record some very loud music with your Butterfly S and you will know if it has the HDR mic. I also want to find out about this as that will decide which device to get.
tanjinjack said:
Just try to record some very loud music with your Butterfly S and you will know if it has the HDR mic. I also want to find out about this as that will decide which device to get.
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I am deciding to get HTC Butterfly S or HTC One... any advise?
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I am deciding to get HTC Butterfly S or HTC One... any advise?
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I think the biggest factor is the build - the Butterfly S has a glossy plastic build that's finished like a car paint while the One comes with the famous aluminium body of which the chamfers around the edges are susceptible to dents upon impact. I see a lot of value for the grey variant of the Butterfly S - best looking plastic phone (but that's purely personal opinion). As for the battery life, the One probably has enough for a day for most people but having 3200mAh in the Butterfly S does assure you that you can get through a day regardless of what you do. Whichever the case, I still have not made my purchase yet - still struggling like you. LOL!
I got a vouchers from my telco (StarHub) and will expire on the 1st Sep... so I still do have some time to think. Samsung S4 will be my third choice... their keyboard is not as good as HTC though and heard it lags.
I like the battery factor and expandable storage for Butterfly S. How how how?!
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I got a vouchers from my telco (StarHub) and will expire on the 1st Sep... so I still do have some time to think. Samsung S4 will be my third choice... their keyboard is not as good as HTC though and heard it lags.
I like the battery factor and expandable storage for Butterfly S. How how how?!
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Lucky you, your telco is StarHub. M1's prices are just off putting. And yeah, the battery life is really good, easily can last you the whole day on a single charge.
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I got a vouchers from my telco (StarHub) and will expire on the 1st Sep... so I still do have some time to think. Samsung S4 will be my third choice... their keyboard is not as good as HTC though and heard it lags.
I like the battery factor and expandable storage for Butterfly S. How how how?!
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With the variety of third party keyboards available that performs better than stock and allow u to sync your dictionary across devices, stock keyboards should not be a deciding factor imo.
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Lucky you, your telco is StarHub. M1's prices are just off putting. And yeah, the battery life is really good, easily can last you the whole day on a single charge.
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But are you using one now? What colour did you get? So you are using M1? How much did you pay for your phone?
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I am deciding to get HTC Butterfly S or HTC One... any advise?
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I currently have the Butterfly S and previously had the One. The One was a wonderful phone and the reason I changed was... well, I got it stolen... So I decided to try the new Butterfly S that was just released.
Both are really nice devices, but if I was to decide which I prefer, I think I like the Butterfly S just because of the larger battery (and the expandable storage a plus). The build quality of the One is much better, but I usually use a case so it's usually not really noticeable. I'm also not too crazy about taking pictures so the missing OIS doesn't bother me too much either. It'll just going to be quicks snaps and if I really wanted to take nice pictures I'll use my professional camera.
It's bulkier and heavier in my pocket, but it's just something I'll have to live with.
Oh a BIG factor for me would be LTE. It supports it here in Asia, but I think it doesn't support LTE in the US? In that case, I think I would consider the One.
Between the GS4 and the One, I think the One is cooler
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With the variety of third party keyboards available that performs better than stock and allow u to sync your dictionary across devices, stock keyboards should not be a deciding factor imo.
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Yes I agree... pardon me... I am very new to Android and yet to own one as a matter of fact!
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But are you using one now? What colour did you get? So you are using M1? How much did you pay for your phone?
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Yeah using it now in red colour on M1. What I did was to recontract for an iPhone 5, brought it down to mobilesquare, traded in and topped up for the butterfly s. All in all only paid $170, much better than paying the cut throat price of M1's.
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I currently have the Butterfly S and previously had the One. The One was a wonderful phone and the reason I changed was... well, I got it stolen... So I decided to try the new Butterfly S that was just released.
Both are really nice devices, but if I was to decide which I prefer, I think I like the Butterfly S just because of the larger battery (and the expandable storage a plus). The build quality of the One is much better, but I usually use a case so it's usually not really noticeable. I'm also not too crazy about taking pictures so the missing OIS doesn't bother me too much either. It'll just going to be quicks snaps and if I really wanted to take nice pictures I'll use my professional camera.
It's bulkier and heavier in my pocket, but it's just something I'll have to live with.
Oh a BIG factor for me would be LTE. It supports it here in Asia, but I think it doesn't support LTE in the US? In that case, I think I would consider the One.
Between the GS4 and the One, I think the One is cooler
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Missing OIS... Hmmm... what does it do? Any comparison picture out there?
And yes, thankfully here in Singapore, the units here supports LTE!
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Missing OIS... Hmmm... what does it do? Any comparison picture out there?
And yes, thankfully here in Singapore, the units here supports LTE!
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I had to think about what OIS was. It's Optical Image Stabilization. I have both the One and Butterfly S and I hadn't noticed a difference. Actually, I took a shot with the S in pretty dim light and it was pretty sharp (although somewhat noisy but on par with the other phones or even better). So I would say it might not matter in real life terms. The camera settings still lets you choose "anti-shake" so I don't know why that is if there is no OIS.
But I'll tell you something funny, I think the S seems to expose the pictures better...
The S doesn't have the physical "wow" of the One when you pick it up, but in most things it is a more practical phone, so I prefer using it right now over the One.
Ken
After much consideration, I had gotten myself one silver HTC Butterfly S and so far loving it!
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I had to think about what OIS was. It's Optical Image Stabilization. I have both the One and Butterfly S and I hadn't noticed a difference. Actually, I took a shot with the S in pretty dim light and it was pretty sharp (although somewhat noisy but on par with the other phones or even better). So I would say it might not matter in real life terms. The camera settings still lets you choose "anti-shake" so I don't know why that is if there is no OIS.
But I'll tell you something funny, I think the S seems to expose the pictures better...
The S doesn't have the physical "wow" of the One when you pick it up, but in most things it is a more practical phone, so I prefer using it right now over the One.
Ken
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If anyone is interested in comparison photos between One (with OIS) and Butterfly S (without OIS), I found the site http://www.max-up.ru/news-apple/htc-butterfly-s-vs-htc-one.html
Although it's in Russian, you can compare the photos, which were shooted by One and Butterfly S.
Here a good comparative in benchmarks amongst One and others
Well, i'm glad i found this thread, as i just bought my HTC One Stealth Black yesterday and since i've already did my homework on which one to buy, compared to the Butterfly S, i wanted to share my views and opinions. By the way, i buy all my devices unlocked (international), so for me, carrier or 4G LTE availability is not an issue.
Butterfly S v/s One
Advantages of using the newer Butterfly S:
- Faster CPU (it's actually the exact same Snapdragon 600 as in the HTC One, but just overclocked and i believe there are apps which allow you to overclock your HTC One to boost it from 1.7 GHz to 1.9 GHz. The GPU stays the same with the Adreno 320 on both devices. On a side note, if HTC had implemented a Snapdragon 800 into the newer Butterfly S, it would have been a different story.)
- Bigger display (it's 5" versus HTC One's 4.7", which isn't a huge difference in my opinion. I've seen both phones side by side and given that you are sacrificing the One's industry-leading PPI record of 468 to Butterfly S's 441, i'd say you're not losing if you go with either one of them. But it's definitely very cool to say that you own the device with the highest PPI until now and probably till the end of 2013. Having a slightly bigger 5" display is not worth singing any praise about, unless you happen to own an Xperia Z Ultra with 6.44" - lol)
- Removable microSD storage (it's a trade-off with respect to the One, as you get half the amount of internal memory, which is faster than external memory and 32 GB is more than enough for the average user - i personally have 25 GB left on my One which i'm trying to fill up with some worthy 1080p movies and games)
- 3 capacitive buttons (versus the One's 2 buttons. OK, i admit i got a gripe with HTC due to this limitation, but then it's not exceptionally annoying and stressful that you can't live without. Double-tap more and get your fingers some exercise or just root and install the feature that enables your HTC logo to become a third capacitive button - problem solved!)
- Bigger battery (This seems to be the most common deciding factor for those considering to buy the best HTC phone (or simply put, the best phone) available right now. HTC One doesn't exhibit any particular weakness with its battery for the average user which lasts a day or more. But for heavy users or people who travel a lot, then the Butterfly S becomes the obvious choice. However, HTC One has a Power Saver mode which works really well, which i thought might be worth mentioning. Also, bigger battery means a beefier device which adds weight to your pocket. If you don't mind the extra weight and really need more juice to keep the lights on, then go for the Butterfly S)
- Gorilla Glass 3 (versus Gorilla Glass 2 on the One. This is not worth factoring into your decision to get either of these devices, as in my honest opinion, the strength of the Gorilla Glass 2 is already excellent by today's standards and Gorilla Glass 3 shatters just as Gorilla 2 in the exact same drop tests. I have yet to see a Gorilla Glass 3 device survive a drop test where a Gorilla Glass 2 device has failed in real life (not the testing done by Corning at the exhibitions where they have a simple piece of their newer glass under pressure from a clamp or dropping a metal ball on it and then tell you that the newer glass is better). Although i have to agree that having the latest glass on your device is always nice and comforting.)
Advantages of using the HTC One:
- Highest display resolution currently available on any smartphone.
- 32 GB internal memory (versus 16 GB on the Butterfly S) which is fastest when copying/loading/installing apps or games or anything else, for that matter.
- Gorgeous aluminium metal build (it gives the HTC One a unique look and feel among all other phones out there, including the plastic Butterfly S)
- Optical Image Stabilization in the One's camera (which is missing from the Butterfly S)
- And i've kept the best reason for last, which really gave me a huge push to go for the HTC One - since you're already on XDA, check out the forums for both of these devices and based on the number of threads and replies, you should easily be able to spot the big difference in developer support. Most importantly, there is the existence of the HTC One Google Edition. There is no (and never will have a) Google Edition for the Butterfly S. Basically, what does that mean? Don't expect anything other than minor updates and bug fixes once 2013 is over as HTC will obviously be backing its new line-up of 2014 flagship smartphones - but if you own an HTC One, you can ditch the stock ROM (by 2014, it'll be outdated when Sense 6.0 comes out and all of 2013's devices are left to run on Sense 5.x) and still stay at the forefront of the Android scene by rooting and installing the official HTC One Google Edition ROM, which works perfectly. There is no waiting time for XDA developers to adapt the GE ROM to your international HTC One. You can basically turn your HTC One with Sense into a 100% working HTC One Google Edition. Even OTA works! The other Google Edition phone (Galaxy S4, shhh) unlike HTC One, cannot benefit from a direct installation of its GE ROM variant (i9505G), as there are differences in hardware which requires an XDA developer to stitch things up and OTA doesn't work so you'll have to wait weeks or months after a new Android version is released before you can install a stable version of the latest pure Android ROM on your S4 (This applies only to the i9505 as the Exynos is a mess with missing drivers, but that's for another topic in another section of the forum).
So, that's it, folks! I hope you found my review and analysis helpful. Please leave some feedback and feel free to discuss if you agree or not.
So your saying that the HTC ONE is better
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So your saying that the HTC ONE is better
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i interpret the comments as "the HTC One is better for him/her"..
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So your saying that the HTC ONE is better
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In my case, the HTC One is definitely the one, since i ended up buying the HTC One over the Butterfly S. The difference in price between these two handsets is negligible considering that you're already going to spend a lot to get either the HTC One or the Butterfly S. But i have exhaustively discussed my point of view in my previous post above, so feel free to disagree if you feel that i was partial to the HTC One in my comparative analysis or if i missed any other important aspect(s) worth mentioning.
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I was looking at two phones as my choices for my next phone. The S4 is my other choice and that one hasn't been revealed yet. Should I get this phone regardless of the S4 or should I look at the S4 to prevent buyer's remorse?
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I was looking at two phones as my choices for my next phone. The S4 is my other choice and that one hasn't been revealed yet. Should I get this phone regardless of the S4 or should I look at the S4 to prevent buyer's remorse?
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Honestly - I say wait.
Either way, we will know about the GS4 before the launch of the HTC One if I'm not mistaken.
As above, if you're not too sure, you're better off waiting for the s4 so you can test both out.
Also, please post any questions in Q&A from now on.
Depends. If you're like me who liked the HTC One on a design perspective then get it now. If you look on specs or features then better wait and decide.
I can make things Simplify its almost confirm that s4 will use 4.9 or 5" screen but dafinately never yet able to made phone using complete metal unibody Samsung is about 85% plastic, afaic I never pay premium price for plastic from now as off coz HTC increase the bar in terms of premium design I don't care at all if it look more or less similar that endless comparison will never end for me how I feel personally to it is more important
Another thing S4 will never have ultra pixel or similar innovation so quick as for now like on HTC one and duel speaker and irda remote and Zoe and complete unibody will surely differentiate HTC ONE from other
For me higher GHz, more mega pixel better benchmark larger screen, card slot or any type software which feature which can be easy to port across android devices and these things can't make phone better so even thought s4 equipped everything but not htc one's premium distinct feature like irda, metal body exact size, qulity cam, ois Zoe, duel and loudest sound
I see Z and One and withing 3 min I finalize on One coz Z got poor viewing angle slow interface, too big and can't take advantage of full 5 inch coz on screen is tricky to appear and dissolved some time and taking space
I suggest don't expect too high but suggest you 'ONE'
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I can make things Simplify its almost confirm that s4 will use 4.9 or 5" screen but dafinately never yet able to made phone using complete metal unibody Samsung is about 85% plastic, afaic I never pay premium price for plastic from now as off coz HTC increase the bar in terms of premium design I don't care at all if it look more or less similar that endless comparison will never end for me how I feel personally to it is more important
Another thing S4 will never have ultra pixel or similar innovation so quick as for now like on HTC one and duel speaker and irda remote and Zoe and complete unibody will surely differentiate HTC ONE from other
For me higher GHz, more mega pixel better benchmark larger screen, card slot or any type software which feature which can be easy to port across android devices and these things can't make phone better so even thought s4 equipped everything but not htc one's premium distinct feature like irda, metal body exact size, qulity cam, ois Zoe, duel and loudest sound
I see Z and One and withing 3 min I finalize on One coz Z got poor viewing angle slow interface, too big and can't take advantage of full 5 inch coz on screen is tricky to appear and dissolved some time and taking space
I suggest don't expect too high but suggest you 'ONE'
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1. Yes you're right. But samsung will be adding little aluminum on the sides of galaxy s4.
2. Samsung will indeed never have ultrapixel as that is copyrighted by HTC. Plus on my own preferences I would still prefer megapixels over this unless they balance this out. And also! Samsung was the first with the IR Remote so don't say that HTC was first. Even Xperia Z/ZL introduced them earlier than HTC.
3. Just to be fair enough with samsung. Samsung will have irda, S-Pen, multi window.
4. Z does not have poor viewing angles. It's pretty obvious you never seen it personally I could say it's only average but no not poor. And yeah the UI is not slow I didn't encounter any UI hiccups even just once when I was testing it.
And seriously? Too big? Mind you the Xperia Z is only less than 2millimeter bigger than HTC One. That's almost like as thick as the cloth/textile on your shirt.
I am not trying to go against you but I don't really like biased comments.
The Droid DNA does very well in reviews and benchmarks. Check out the YouTube videos about its reviews and benchmarks.
I have a Note 2 and it is also a good phone if you like to watch movies/shows on the go.
I just recently went back to using my amaze (running cm10) and I am about to sell my S3. My 2 choises are:
HTC ONE
Samsung S4
Wanted some feed back from you guys. Do you love the HTC One? Given a chance, would you still buy it over the S4? And do you guys see a community as big as the S4 will be?
While back I went with the Amaze over the S2. I love the phone but hated the fact that the Amaze community is almost non existent. I do not want to go through that again.
Quite honestly I am loving the HTC One
I had been in the same place like you, I owned a S3 before and had to make a choice -> the choice went to the HTC One and I've never been so happy about a decision ^^
- First thing is the quality, the HTC One beats S3 and S4 over 1000 times, the aliminium unibody is so awesome. If you are habitated on using a phone with aluminium body you will never take a plastic phone back to your hand. I was shocked how long I endured having a plastic phone since I now know how good quality feels like
- You will love the beautiful new HTC user interface, much more tidied up, clearer and better design than Samsung's ugly way of UI design (I say ugly because compared to the HTC user interface it is). HTC One offers you a much better experience here
- Other thing is the screensize, I don't about your preferences but I think that 4,7" is the perfect size for any smartphone, for me anything bigger than that is too big and anything smaller too small.
- You never heard such a good sound from speakers of a smartphone...some may argue now with "who needs good speakers anyways if I watch videos or listen to music with headphones on"...yeah right, but I also would like to enjoy stuff loudly without always having headphones on. Two nice Speakers for Stereosound with Beats Audio, you will love the difference
- The design...well beauty is something undefined and dependent on the viewers eye, but I if you made a poll voting about who has the better design than I can predict you which one would win with big advance -> the HTC One. The design of the S4 is nothing new, so unoriginal because it changed only little things compared to the S3, they look almost similar. Compared to the HTC One the S4 looks so boring and cheap. This is also caused by the cheap material, you just see it
- The hardware power: Both have almost same power, just the CPU of the S4 is slightly better, but the rest is almost identical. Awesome CPU and Graphic Power, 2GB Ram, LTE. Due to the equality I would always pick the phone which offers much better quality on the overall package -> So for me the clearly winner is the HTC One
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I had been in the same place like you, I owned a S3 before and had to make a choice -> the choice went to the HTC One and I've never been so happy about a decision ^^
- First thing is the quality, the HTC One beats S3 and S4 over 1000 times, the aliminium unibody is so awesome. If you are habitated on using a phone with aluminium body you will never take a plastic phone back to your hand. I was shocked how long I endured having a plastic phone since I now know how good quality feels like
- You will love the beautiful new HTC user interface, much more tidied up, clearer and better design than Samsung's ugly way of UI design (I say ugly because compared to the HTC user interface it is). HTC One offers you a much better experience here
- Other thing is the screensize, I don't about your preferences but I think that 4,7" is the perfect size for any smartphone, for me anything bigger than that is too big and anything smaller too small.
- You never heard such a good sound from speakers of a smartphone...some may argue now with "who needs good speakers anyways if I watch videos or listen to music with headphones on"...yeah right, but I also would like to enjoy stuff loudly without always having headphones on. Two nice Speakers for Stereosound with Beats Audio, you will love the difference
- The design...well beauty is something undefined and dependent on the viewers eye, but I if you made a poll voting about who has the better design than I can predict you which one would win with big advance -> the HTC One. The design of the S4 is nothing new, so unoriginal because it changed only little things compared to the S3, they look almost similar. Compared to the HTC One the S4 looks so boring and cheap. This is also caused by the cheap material, you just see it
- The hardware power: Both have almost same power, just the CPU of the S4 is slightly better, but the rest is almost identical. Awesome CPU and Graphic Power, 2GB Ram, LTE. Due to the equality I would always pick the phone which offers much better quality on the overall package -> So for me the clearly winner is the HTC One
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you forgot one important factor....the camera...
how do you compare it to the samsung s3?
Does the lack of Micro SD card and removal battery bother you? Do you have the US version of the phone or international?
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you forgot one important factor....the camera...
how do you compare it to the samsung s3?
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Hmm, the S4 camera seems to be slightly better (according to tests), but not that much that it would be a reason to pick the S4 over the HTC One ^^ At least for me
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It doesn't bother me. I even didn't buy the 64GB version because the 32GB is enough for me. The non-removable battery isn't a big issue, of course it is more time consuming and harder to change it but when do you need to change a battery? Not that often ^^ Maybe once every 2 years. It will be a bit more expensive to change it but it still can be done.
I guess I have the international version (europe here)
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Hmm, the S4 camera seems to be slightly better (according to tests), but not that much that it would be a reason to pick the S4 over the HTC One ^^ At least for me
Is it really? How about video recording quality? I wonder if HTC had something high then 4mp, would it had been more awesome?
It doesn't bother me. I even didn't buy the 64GB version because the 32GB is enough for me. The non-removable battery isn't a big issue, of course it is more time consuming and harder to change it but when do you need to change a battery? Not that often ^^ Maybe once every 2 years. It will be a bit more expensive to change it but it still can be done.
I guess I have the international version (europe here)
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I guess I like to have back up batteries for those "emergency" moments. How much did you pay, US $ roughly? I would probably go with the 64gb.
How do you feel about the community? Do you think it will grow? CM10 is still struggling to get BT to work correctly on the Amaze even after all this time.
Can you read on it? S4 temping because I could read on it. And does the features on the S4 in anyway sway you towards it like eye tracking scrolling magiga thingy lol humidity sensor and the sort?
Coming from the 3VO, I have a bad taste of HTC in my mouth mostly due to poor build quality, parts, update speed. With upgrade due on 1 Aug 2013 I hope to get the HTC One. Can I expect more of the same or is it a new experience?
HTC is trying, but not hard enough...you'll see most of the same IMO, but it's still fairly early to tell (IMO still doesn't make a difference, HTC will never get their act together)
I've owned two HTC phones that both got killed on GB. Very saddening
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Coming from the 3VO, I have a bad taste of HTC in my mouth mostly due to poor build quality, parts, update speed. With upgrade due on 1 Aug 2013 I hope to get the HTC One. Can I expect more of the same or is it a new experience?
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If I say one thing, I have to commend you on your dramatic title.
The One isn't for everyone. Period.
If you are gonna need to be able to zoom on the camera at all, you're out of luck. If you need a crapload of storage space, same. The American Ones haven't gotten 4.2 yet (Taiwan + Int'l have). This phone gets hot to the touch rather quickly. If you damage the device, it is hard to replace the casing yourself. You definitely can't replace any of the internals yourself. There have been reports of shoddy QC with problems including: gaps in the unibody case, mushy power buttons, self-cracking lenses (which has yet to be verified as a defect) and dead/stuck pixels. EDIT: I had my device repaired, and my power button came back recessed by about a millimeter. Again, shoddy QC.
That's not to say other devices are perfect. The S4 seems to have cracking LCD issues or something. HTC one has the best low light performance of any cell phone camera. EDIT: Review say that the Nokia 1020 and 925 beat all other cameras, including the HTC One's. Zoe allows for living, breathing pictures. The (almost)all-metal case is like nothing I've or probably anybody else has ever held before. It's miles better than any plastic phone. The boomsound speakers are simply the loudest ever. NTM that they face you, and not your hands. Sense 5 is really an improvement over 4, and the battery is enough for 1.5 - 2 days of moderate use.
The biggest tradeoff you'll be making when coming to this phone is the picture resolution. The QC issues are somewhat rare (nobody reports a perfectly good device) and some say that the heating is actually good in that the heat dissipates rather than smoldering inside the phone.(EDIT: The device regularly reaches 105 degrees F while browsing. Not sure if that's normal.) I wouldn't worry about update speed. We already have 4.3 ROMs coming from the Google Play edition. I think Samsung has the best Reputation for old product support when it comes to software updates. That is, if you don't count Cyanogenmod and iOS. My GS2 runs 4.1.2, stock.
That's just an overview of what has been discussed about this phone on XDA. The choice is yours.
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If I say one thing, I have to commend you on your dramatic title.
The One isn't for everyone. Period.
If you are gonna need to be able to zoom on the camera at all, you're out of luck. If you need a crapload of storage space, same. The American Ones haven't gotten 4.2 yet (Taiwan + Int'l have). This phone gets hot to the touch rather quickly. If you damage the device, it is hard to replace the casing yourself. You definitely can't replace any of the internals yourself. There have been reports of shoddy QC with problems including: gaps in the unibody case, mushy power buttons, self-cracking lenses (which has yet to be verified as a defect) and dead/stuck pixels.
That's not to say other devices are perfect. The S4 seems to have cracking LCD issues or something. HTC one has the best low light performance of any cell phone camera. Zoe allows for living, breathing pictures. The (almost)all-metal case is like nothing I've or probably anybody else has ever held before. It's miles better than any plastic phone. The boomsound speakers are simply the loudest ever. NTM that they face you, and not your hands. Sense 5 is really an improvement over 4, and the battery is enough for 1.5 - 2 days of moderate use.
The biggest tradeoff you'll be making when coming to this phone is the picture resolution. The QC issues are somewhat rare (nobody reports a perfectly good device) and some say that the heating is actually good in that the heat dissipates rather than smoldering inside the phone. I wouldn't worry about update speed. We already have 4.3 ROMs coming from the Google Play edition.
That's just an overview of what has been discussed about this phone on XDA. The choice is yours.
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Very factual, thanks for commenting I feel kind of reassured about my decision.
This is a solid device. I'm still stock,UN rooted and it really doesn't do anything bad. My phone doesn't get super hot, it takes good pics, the o.s runs great, no lag. I unplugged mine this morning at 5:30am and I still have 20% at 11:23pm. When you get the phone get a good case.
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I am impressed with HTC this time around. I pretty much wrote them off in the past but I think they finally got their act together with the One.
But like others said it comes down to personal preference. There are tradeoffs and you just got to play with all your options. But I believe the consensus is that HTC really stepped it up.
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Coming from the 3VO, I have a bad taste of HTC in my mouth mostly due to poor build quality, parts, update speed. With upgrade due on 1 Aug 2013 I hope to get the HTC One. Can I expect more of the same or is it a new experience?
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I came from the Evo 3D too and I hated HTC. I heard the 3D was the worst by far with OTAs and such. I really like the One for the build and while i miss some things (like the ability for an SD) it's easy to get over. I was considering the GS4 before the One, but I took a look at them side by side and I felt the one was much better IMO.
Great build, hard to fix parts (as mentioned above), Not too sure yet about update speed. I think you should go for it :good:
I recently purchased the One and I'm so close to returning it. I can't stand the fact that you can't turn off BlinkFeed, which is a complete waste of a very limited number if Android screens. The One gives you only (yes, "only") five screens max, four not including BlinkFeed. I need two screens alone for personal and work contacts widgets. I upgraded from the original HTC Evo and I already miss that old goat.
I miss my SD card too.
Why do people talk about phones' outer shells when 99% of phones out there are sitting in some Otterbox/case?
Have you thought about using a different launcher? No blinkfeed, more customization, as many screens as you like. Personally I use Nova launcher
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Getting really bored of my Samsung Galaxy S4 and am looking towards the HTC ONE.
What do you guys reckon?
Whats the battery life and camera like?
Does the metal body chip or bend or damage easily?
I also switched mate. S4 is nice but the One is even nicer.
The quality and design feel alot more premium than the S4's design and the screen is absolutely gorgeous.
Super LCD 3 is waay better then S amoled in my opinion.
Be sure to convert it to Google edition
Just do it, you wont regret
I had the s4 it was the worst phone I ever touched. From lag to cheap plastic to unoptimized software and Samsung using half of the storage I couldn't deal with it. Switched to an HTC one and never looked back and I am on att.
winwiz said:
Getting really bored of my Samsung Galaxy S4 and am looking towards the HTC ONE.
What do you guys reckon?
Whats the battery life and camera like?
Does the metal body chip or bend or damage easily?
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Battery life is slightly less than S4. The edges will chip with rough use but the metal doesn't bend. You'll feel a performance drop [reduced framerate] when playing graphic intensive games like MC4. S4 is smoother with such games. Again, ever so slightly, but noticeable nevertheless. However, overall smoothness HTC>S4. Camera... it really depends. Check out some of the camera reviews here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2167592. HTC One screen >>> S4. If you're coming from the 16GB S4, you should enjoy the 32GB of space.
And oh oh Boomsound! You should hear the speakers on this thing man. They're on a different level... just amazing!
My verdict... wait for the HTC One Max.
Didnt samsung fix the lag in there latest update? Anyways this phone feels more high end all around, hardware and software wise and also things like the tv remote seem to work better and have cleaner interface
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Thanks guys
Main thing that concerns me is the camera
I've seen samples and the S4 is much better - is this really the case for those who have switched?
Also, I can root the S4 in seconds, is it the same with the HTC?
Go to a shop and try the One M7 in your hands and see how you feel, i bought an One M7 over the G4 for the stereo speakers for when i watch a movie and it is glorious, and the screen is so good amazing detail, but i would still like an S4 if i had the money :laugh:
John.
winwiz said:
Thanks guys
Main thing that concerns me is the camera
I've seen samples and the S4 is much better - is this really the case for those who have switched?
Also, I can root the S4 in seconds, is it the same with the HTC?
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Rooting is very easy ..just unlock bootloader through HTC dev then flasha a custom recovery...simple as that takes three mins...then you probably want to do s off
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Rooting is very easy ..just unlock bootloader through HTC dev then flasha a custom recovery...simple as that takes three mins...then you probably want to do s off
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Unlock-able during S-off process. No need to unlock via HTC dev =D
winwiz said:
Thanks guys
Main thing that concerns me is the camera
I've seen samples and the S4 is much better - is this really the case for those who have switched?
Also, I can root the S4 in seconds, is it the same with the HTC?
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My honest opinion on the HTC camera,,, with Sense its great in low light, but its nowhere near as good as the 8mp shooter on my missus iPhone on regular old daylight pics, id even say my old Samsung Droid Charge took better pictures..... and once i went Google edition i think its worse again, kinda grainy, why not just convert your S4 into a Google Edition, im seriously thinking about going down that route, camera has been a bit of a letdown for me on the One
winwiz said:
Getting really bored of my Samsung Galaxy S4 and am looking towards the HTC ONE.
What do you guys reckon?
Whats the battery life and camera like?
Does the metal body chip or bend or damage easily?
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what do u think the answers are going to be in a htc one forum?
its like asking is iphone good or bad in a mac forum.
sometimes logic will give you more answers then you think you can get.
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what do u think the answers are going to be in a htc one forum?
its like asking is iphone good or bad in a mac forum.
sometimes logic will give you more answers then you think you can get.
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actually if you read the comments, they are very balanced.
I'll try and play with one at a store to make my mind up.
The max and Note 3 are too big!
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actually if you read the comments, they are very balanced.
I'll try and play with one at a store to make my mind up.
The max and Note 3 are too big!
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there are plenty of sites comparing them both. they will give you much balanced review. and no most of them never gave you a balanced view. just 2 of them did .
The camera, in my opinion, is just fine for 99% of typical usage. If you're gonna print out copies, the One will not be as good... but if you just keep them on your phone to share, text them to other people, or upload them to social media sites, the camera is more than sufficient. The low light performance is a plus as well.
Battery life is pretty damn good in my opinion. I haven't done anything to optimize my battery life, and it lasts me a whole day of medium usage. With some tweaking, people are seeing 5 to 6 hours of screen on time. If you use your phone more than that in a day, it's likely you're in need of a new job or hobby, haha.
Hardware is simply untouchable. The screen is beautiful and converted me from a huge loyalty to Samsung amoled screens. The body of the phone is gorgeous and feels awesome in the hand. The dual front speakers are not just hype... they are truly astounding.
Software was a nice surprise for me. I've always hated Sense, and thought it made phones ugly and sluggish. Sense 5 is neither. Though I use Apex launcher, HTC really impressed me with their refinements of Sense. Like others have said, the phone flies through pretty much everything except intensive gaming.
Overall, in my book, HTC won this round of flagships. They won't sell as many, but it really is a much better phone.
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Here's the skinny...
If you are shooting in anything but optimal light get the One. I have been amazed at the quality level with no noise. Sunny day shooting looks great as well but it does have the slightest bit Lower quality compared to the S4
Ex - incandescent lighting in a home, cloudy skies, restaurant......
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winwiz said:
Getting really bored of my Samsung Galaxy S4 and am looking towards the HTC ONE.
What do you guys reckon?
Whats the battery life and camera like?
Does the metal body chip or bend or damage easily?
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If you happen to live in the US and also happen to have a T-Mobile S4, I will trade with you. Mine is 9.5/10 condition wise. Only reason I don't give it a full 10 is because I've used it. 10/10 for me would be unused.
Anyway, if you want to swap, PM me. It would have to be a T-Mobile S4, though.
winwiz said:
Getting really bored of my Samsung Galaxy S4 and am looking towards the HTC ONE.
What do you guys reckon?
Whats the battery life and camera like?
Does the metal body chip or bend or damage easily?
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They are very different phones in a lot of ways, so there is no one answer as to which is "best". It depends on what you use it for and how you use it.
I went with the One because I liked the look and feel much more. I just don't like plastic phones anymore. Playing with them side by side, I just found the One smoother and faster.
My phone is heavily optimized, but I have no trouble going 36 hours without a charge.
The camera issue is quite polarizing. It depends a great deal on what you use your phone for. If you take photos mostly for texting and social media, the One is superior because of it's better performance across all conditions. If you use it as a replacement for a point-and-shoot camera, or expect to be able to blow up/crop the shots, the 13MP camera on the S4 is a better choice.
This is a very tough phone. I haven't bothered with a case or screen protector, and it still looks out-of-the-box new. My screen does not have a single scratch. CNET threw their test unit out of a moving bus and it survived with no more than a ding on the corner.
You may be able to root the S4 faster, but the locked bootloader on some models has inhibited development. Development on the One could not be more robust--some rom threads see 200-300 posts a day.
So, as an owner of the HTC One i'l give you a honest thought.
FIRST OF ALL - I don't know how much money you have to spend and I'm not going to get into your life, but if I was in your situation I wouldn't recommend buying the HTC One if you have the S4. It doesn't even matter if the One is a bit smoother and has an aluminium body over the s4's plastic body, at the end of the day they are both top android phones with similar specifications. I moved from the old Galaxy S1 to the HTC One, Now its just amazing how different they are I cant even explain, the HTC One is probably the best phone I've seen out there, but at the end of the day? they are just similar, running the same OS and they both are used the same.
So After giving you my opinion let me tell you this:
1. First, the HTC One is definitely the smoothest android phone I've ever seen - including the Galaxy S4. and By the way the phone runs MC4 and whatever game you pick smoothly.
2. the HTC One has the best screen I've seen, comparing to the Iphone 5, the Galaxy S4 and others - its absolutely beautiful and stunning. Moving from the S1 was a shock to me.
3. The camera is pretty good, it has nice pics though I think I would pick the S4's camera - to me its not a big deal.
4. I know its all about opinions, but the HTC one is just the most beautiful phone ever, People see it and stay with their jaws down. The thing is I might be a bit paranoid, of course after paying alot for it, I cant go commando with it so I've put a protector that should protect it the best, so I cant see how nice it looks.
5. Speakers are just crazy, but seriously, who doesn't use their headphones? and If I've talked about the headphones already I must say that the headphones that come with the One sounds amazing using the phone!!!! I never thought that I could hear so good with the phone/heads.
6. Battery Life - I must say that the battery life is amazing for me!! I'm not a heavy user at all, but my Locations and 3G/wifi are on all day long I use facebook, play some games, whatsapp, Internet, waze and the battery won't end! I usually charge the phone every second day.
So after pointing all these out, the htc one is pretty amazing and its stunning, but If I were in your situation I would keep the money and stay with the S4.
Good Luck,
Thanks guys
I'll have to have a play with one to compare
Waiting for 64 GB version of HTC One. Planing to move from GS4.
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I understand this HTC One forum but I want to buy a new phone to replace my Galaxy Nexus, and I think many are considering the two devices and can't decide which one to go for. I only buy Nexus devices and now the Google Play Edition has come into picture running Vanilla Android. What would you recommend? Which one would you buy at the moment if you were in my shoes? Thanks in advance!
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I understand this HTC One forum but I want to buy a new phone to replace my Galaxy Nexus, and I think many are considering the two devices and can't decide which one to go for. I only buy Nexus devices and now the Google Play Edition has come into picture running Vanilla Android. What would you recommend? Which one would you buy at the moment if you were in my shoes? Thanks in advance!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gun4MRZU3Gs
This should help you decide
Too bad the Nexus 5 does not have a premium build quality like the One.
In fact, imo, there is no other phone (other then iPhone 5(s)) that can compete in terms of build quality.
I like running GPE ROMs on my One, cause I like stock Android.
To me, stock Android and the premium feel of the One is pretty much perfect.
But stock/Vanilla Android will never run as fluent on the One, then on a Nexus device.
So if your choice is dependent on how the software will run, I'd say the Nexus 5.
If I compare my friend's Nexus 4 to my One, even the Nexus 4 is more fluent and faster, only the way stock Android runs that is.
Cause in terms of raw processing power, the Nexus 4 does not come close to the One ofcourse.
If you want the best of both, and dont mind the loss of a bit speed in terms of UI, I'd say the One GPE.
I'd pick the Nexus 5 though.
The money you save with it, is worth it aswell.
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Too bad the Nexus 5 does not have a premium build quality like the One.
In fact, imo, there is no other phone (other then iPhone 5(s)) that can compete in terms of build quality.
I like running GPE ROMs on my One, cause I like stock Android.
To me, stock Android and the premium feel of the One is pretty much perfect.
But stock/Vanilla Android will never run as fluent on the One, then on a Nexus device.
So if your choice is dependent on how the software will run, I'd say the Nexus 5.
If I compare my friend's Nexus 4 to my One, even the Nexus 4 is more fluent and faster, only the way stock Android runs that is.
Cause in terms of raw processing power, the Nexus 4 does not come close to the One ofcourse.
If you want the best of both, and dont mind the loss of a bit speed in terms of UI, I'd say the One GPE.
I'd pick the Nexus 5 though.
The money you save with it, is worth it aswell.
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I too would go for Nexus. What it loses in build, it more makes up more than enough in price and support.
So, if you are gonna buy nexus, i would recommend you to watch this video to decide whether to go for black or white http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBCaAq_pKjY
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Go with the nexus. I had nexus 4 but took my brothers one and he ordered the 5. The phone is amazing. I love the bigger/wider screen even though it has on screen buttons. I actually miss the onscreen button layout from my nexus 4. In terms of fluidity both phones are very fast but comparing stock vanilla Roms, nexus will always be better because of sense framework on the gpe. Nexus 5 also has the newest processor so it's more futureproof i suppose in that sense. And even if its by a couple weeks, Nexus gets updated first if that makes a difference to you. Development will also be better on nexus, I'd get it just for Franco kernel and touch control lol. I didn't test his phone out a whole lot but camera is on par with HTC one. I only took pictures in my basement and preferred the nexus over HTC. The true HDR+ feature works wonders.
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otariq said:
I love the bigger/wider screen even though it has on screen buttons. I actually miss the onscreen button layout from my nexus 4.
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waste of space, you loose a portion of the screen for nothing, One with the soft button is better.
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nexus will always be better because of sense framework on the gpe
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wrong, 4.2.2 GPE had a sense base framework, with the 4.3 it's completly removed and stock so will be the 4.4
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Nexus 5 also has the newest processor so it's more futureproof i suppose in that sense.
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i think is overrated have 4x 2.3ghz cpu instead of a 4x 1.7, you can run everything even on a snapdragon 400.. the 800 is better ofc but an upgrade from the 600 is pointless.
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Nexus gets updated first if that makes a difference to you.
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two week difference is also not a good excuse to choose the N5 over the M7 GPE.
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I didn't test his phone out a whole lot but camera is on par with HTC one. I only took pictures in my basement and preferred the nexus over HTC.
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all major sites (android police, android autority, anand, theverge, ecc) and the best youtubers says that the 8mpx camera on the N5 is pretty crap, not hardware site but software site, like postprocessing and all that stuff and a major upgrade is waited to fix poor quality video/photo.
reviewers says also that the stock sound on the N5 is low (like the Galaxy Nexus problem) but could be fixed using custom roms/kernels.. i mean the loudspeaker and not music like but ringtones, Google wtf are you doing? Build quality is medium, back cover is nice touchy.. and the camera gap si a bad choice also.
M7 has a better build quality overall, will have the same os with the GPE conversion and OTA (~15 days), better sound (a lot better), screen is a full 1080p with external buttons, you could switch to Sense if needed.
the only thing i wish i could have on the M7 converted is the amoled display with the Moto X active notification, that would be fantastic.
PRO for the N5? the price.
oh yes, the always listening feature: only works on EN-US, and extra US Google Now is pretty useless atm.
ps: in my country M7 could be found starting from 430€ new, the N5 is 350€ from Play Store.. no kidding.
Your preference of capacitive buttons is pure opinion you can't say which will be better for him. I liked it because it's faster navigation ( no holding down home for Google now, menu or recents). Plus I used 180 flip on nexus 4 and my buttons would always be on the bottom. Also, I didn't know 4.3 removed sense framework but how is beats working? I didn't really test camera that much just took a few snaps and I read the Engadget review and they said it had better snaps than HTC one in some situations (not always obviously). Wheni talked about the camera I meant my personal preference I'm not a photography expert. The htc one increases light exposure hence better night pics but from what I've seen in the time I have used it is light from different sources gets distorted. For example, in the basement the picture came out good but light from the TV was too bright and from the light bulbs too and this created distortion in that area only. With the nexus I was still able to pick up the same quality image but without the distortion on the TV screen and around the light bulbs. Build quality I agree HTC is better but heavier depends on preference again. The plastic isn't that bad it has a good feel to the back and doesn't squeak like most galaxy phones. I didnt test external speakers/sound output but nexus 4 was poor so i hope they would've learbed from it. Although faux and Franco kernels fixed any problems I had so the same can be done with nexus 5. Again, you can't just write off the processor as no big deal. It is a step up and should be considered especially since the newer hardware is cheaper than the old. And he's not upgrading from a 600 he's choosing betweens phones that have 600 and 800. All depends on what he needs in a phone.
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otariq said:
Your preference of capacitive buttons is pure opinion you can't say which will be better for him. I liked it because it's faster navigation ( no holding down home for Google now, menu or recents). Plus I used 180 flip on nexus 4 and my buttons would always be on the bottom. Also, I didn't know 4.3 removed sense framework but how is beats working? I didn't really test camera that much just took a few snaps and I read the Engadget review and they said it had better snaps than HTC one in some situations (not always obviously). Wheni talked about the camera I meant my personal preference I'm not a photography expert. The htc one increases light exposure hence better night pics but from what I've seen in the time I have used it is light from different sources gets distorted. For example, in the basement the picture came out good but light from the TV was too bright and from the light bulbs too and this created distortion in that area only. With the nexus I was still able to pick up the same quality image but without the distortion on the TV screen and around the light bulbs. Build quality I agree HTC is better but heavier depends on preference again. The plastic isn't that bad it has a good feel to the back and doesn't squeak like most galaxy phones. I didnt test external speakers/sound output but nexus 4 was poor so i hope they would've learbed from it. Although faux and Franco kernels fixed any problems I had so the same can be done with nexus 5. Again, you can't just write off the processor as no big deal. It is a step up and should be considered especially since the newer hardware is cheaper than the old. And he's not upgrading from a 600 he's choosing betweens phones that have 600 and 800. All depends on what he needs in a phone.
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Someone blames HTC for not having navbar on the One, i would never understand this.. ok it's my opinion, like what i'm thinking about the navbar on tablets, but it's another story.
Camera on N5 will probably fixed with a better postprocessing engine, not that big deal, but sound is really an issue.. and kernels are not an excuse because a lot of people just stay on Stock Rom and maybe just root/busybox, they will never loose time or have the knowledge to flash a deodexed modded cooked rom with custom kernel to improve something that should just work fine out of the box.. want to talk about the sound volume problem on the Galaxy Nexus? or the really poor wifi and the C8 bug? and what about the Nexus 4? with the loudspeaker inudible when it's on a flat surface? they fixed with a new phisical revision.. and the washed color screen? only fix is over kernel with colour control.
Talking about the CPU/GPU ofc it's an upgrade from snap600 to 800, but it's worth? only for the geek i would say, speed is blazing fast for both of them and the only benefit could be on battery usage, maybe 800 is better but who knows? ony the Note3 and the HTC One Max have the 800 version and they have both totally different battery capacity and different OS (touchwiz and sense) so cannot be comparable, soon we will see.. gaming side they are both excelent.. you can play Battlefield at the same level with an i5 or an i7, with a titan or a 780, bigger number is not always better perfomarce.
the N5 will have other problems like all phones have, M7 is not perfect (build gap in some early ships, pink camera issues) but let's compare: they have the same screen resolution, the same dimension, the same android official version (soon), none of them has removal battery, none has sdcard expansion, both have LTE.. 32gb M7 is 430€ here, 32gb N5 is 399€..
imho m7 wins.
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