I understand this HTC One forum but I want to buy a new phone to replace my Galaxy Nexus, and I think many are considering the two devices and can't decide which one to go for. I only buy Nexus devices and now the Google Play Edition has come into picture running Vanilla Android. What would you recommend? Which one would you buy at the moment if you were in my shoes? Thanks in advance!
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I understand this HTC One forum but I want to buy a new phone to replace my Galaxy Nexus, and I think many are considering the two devices and can't decide which one to go for. I only buy Nexus devices and now the Google Play Edition has come into picture running Vanilla Android. What would you recommend? Which one would you buy at the moment if you were in my shoes? Thanks in advance!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gun4MRZU3Gs
This should help you decide
Too bad the Nexus 5 does not have a premium build quality like the One.
In fact, imo, there is no other phone (other then iPhone 5(s)) that can compete in terms of build quality.
I like running GPE ROMs on my One, cause I like stock Android.
To me, stock Android and the premium feel of the One is pretty much perfect.
But stock/Vanilla Android will never run as fluent on the One, then on a Nexus device.
So if your choice is dependent on how the software will run, I'd say the Nexus 5.
If I compare my friend's Nexus 4 to my One, even the Nexus 4 is more fluent and faster, only the way stock Android runs that is.
Cause in terms of raw processing power, the Nexus 4 does not come close to the One ofcourse.
If you want the best of both, and dont mind the loss of a bit speed in terms of UI, I'd say the One GPE.
I'd pick the Nexus 5 though.
The money you save with it, is worth it aswell.
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Too bad the Nexus 5 does not have a premium build quality like the One.
In fact, imo, there is no other phone (other then iPhone 5(s)) that can compete in terms of build quality.
I like running GPE ROMs on my One, cause I like stock Android.
To me, stock Android and the premium feel of the One is pretty much perfect.
But stock/Vanilla Android will never run as fluent on the One, then on a Nexus device.
So if your choice is dependent on how the software will run, I'd say the Nexus 5.
If I compare my friend's Nexus 4 to my One, even the Nexus 4 is more fluent and faster, only the way stock Android runs that is.
Cause in terms of raw processing power, the Nexus 4 does not come close to the One ofcourse.
If you want the best of both, and dont mind the loss of a bit speed in terms of UI, I'd say the One GPE.
I'd pick the Nexus 5 though.
The money you save with it, is worth it aswell.
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I too would go for Nexus. What it loses in build, it more makes up more than enough in price and support.
So, if you are gonna buy nexus, i would recommend you to watch this video to decide whether to go for black or white http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBCaAq_pKjY
There are structural and build differences
Go with the nexus. I had nexus 4 but took my brothers one and he ordered the 5. The phone is amazing. I love the bigger/wider screen even though it has on screen buttons. I actually miss the onscreen button layout from my nexus 4. In terms of fluidity both phones are very fast but comparing stock vanilla Roms, nexus will always be better because of sense framework on the gpe. Nexus 5 also has the newest processor so it's more futureproof i suppose in that sense. And even if its by a couple weeks, Nexus gets updated first if that makes a difference to you. Development will also be better on nexus, I'd get it just for Franco kernel and touch control lol. I didn't test his phone out a whole lot but camera is on par with HTC one. I only took pictures in my basement and preferred the nexus over HTC. The true HDR+ feature works wonders.
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I love the bigger/wider screen even though it has on screen buttons. I actually miss the onscreen button layout from my nexus 4.
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waste of space, you loose a portion of the screen for nothing, One with the soft button is better.
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nexus will always be better because of sense framework on the gpe
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wrong, 4.2.2 GPE had a sense base framework, with the 4.3 it's completly removed and stock so will be the 4.4
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Nexus 5 also has the newest processor so it's more futureproof i suppose in that sense.
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i think is overrated have 4x 2.3ghz cpu instead of a 4x 1.7, you can run everything even on a snapdragon 400.. the 800 is better ofc but an upgrade from the 600 is pointless.
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Nexus gets updated first if that makes a difference to you.
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two week difference is also not a good excuse to choose the N5 over the M7 GPE.
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I didn't test his phone out a whole lot but camera is on par with HTC one. I only took pictures in my basement and preferred the nexus over HTC.
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all major sites (android police, android autority, anand, theverge, ecc) and the best youtubers says that the 8mpx camera on the N5 is pretty crap, not hardware site but software site, like postprocessing and all that stuff and a major upgrade is waited to fix poor quality video/photo.
reviewers says also that the stock sound on the N5 is low (like the Galaxy Nexus problem) but could be fixed using custom roms/kernels.. i mean the loudspeaker and not music like but ringtones, Google wtf are you doing? Build quality is medium, back cover is nice touchy.. and the camera gap si a bad choice also.
M7 has a better build quality overall, will have the same os with the GPE conversion and OTA (~15 days), better sound (a lot better), screen is a full 1080p with external buttons, you could switch to Sense if needed.
the only thing i wish i could have on the M7 converted is the amoled display with the Moto X active notification, that would be fantastic.
PRO for the N5? the price.
oh yes, the always listening feature: only works on EN-US, and extra US Google Now is pretty useless atm.
ps: in my country M7 could be found starting from 430€ new, the N5 is 350€ from Play Store.. no kidding.
Your preference of capacitive buttons is pure opinion you can't say which will be better for him. I liked it because it's faster navigation ( no holding down home for Google now, menu or recents). Plus I used 180 flip on nexus 4 and my buttons would always be on the bottom. Also, I didn't know 4.3 removed sense framework but how is beats working? I didn't really test camera that much just took a few snaps and I read the Engadget review and they said it had better snaps than HTC one in some situations (not always obviously). Wheni talked about the camera I meant my personal preference I'm not a photography expert. The htc one increases light exposure hence better night pics but from what I've seen in the time I have used it is light from different sources gets distorted. For example, in the basement the picture came out good but light from the TV was too bright and from the light bulbs too and this created distortion in that area only. With the nexus I was still able to pick up the same quality image but without the distortion on the TV screen and around the light bulbs. Build quality I agree HTC is better but heavier depends on preference again. The plastic isn't that bad it has a good feel to the back and doesn't squeak like most galaxy phones. I didnt test external speakers/sound output but nexus 4 was poor so i hope they would've learbed from it. Although faux and Franco kernels fixed any problems I had so the same can be done with nexus 5. Again, you can't just write off the processor as no big deal. It is a step up and should be considered especially since the newer hardware is cheaper than the old. And he's not upgrading from a 600 he's choosing betweens phones that have 600 and 800. All depends on what he needs in a phone.
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Your preference of capacitive buttons is pure opinion you can't say which will be better for him. I liked it because it's faster navigation ( no holding down home for Google now, menu or recents). Plus I used 180 flip on nexus 4 and my buttons would always be on the bottom. Also, I didn't know 4.3 removed sense framework but how is beats working? I didn't really test camera that much just took a few snaps and I read the Engadget review and they said it had better snaps than HTC one in some situations (not always obviously). Wheni talked about the camera I meant my personal preference I'm not a photography expert. The htc one increases light exposure hence better night pics but from what I've seen in the time I have used it is light from different sources gets distorted. For example, in the basement the picture came out good but light from the TV was too bright and from the light bulbs too and this created distortion in that area only. With the nexus I was still able to pick up the same quality image but without the distortion on the TV screen and around the light bulbs. Build quality I agree HTC is better but heavier depends on preference again. The plastic isn't that bad it has a good feel to the back and doesn't squeak like most galaxy phones. I didnt test external speakers/sound output but nexus 4 was poor so i hope they would've learbed from it. Although faux and Franco kernels fixed any problems I had so the same can be done with nexus 5. Again, you can't just write off the processor as no big deal. It is a step up and should be considered especially since the newer hardware is cheaper than the old. And he's not upgrading from a 600 he's choosing betweens phones that have 600 and 800. All depends on what he needs in a phone.
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Someone blames HTC for not having navbar on the One, i would never understand this.. ok it's my opinion, like what i'm thinking about the navbar on tablets, but it's another story.
Camera on N5 will probably fixed with a better postprocessing engine, not that big deal, but sound is really an issue.. and kernels are not an excuse because a lot of people just stay on Stock Rom and maybe just root/busybox, they will never loose time or have the knowledge to flash a deodexed modded cooked rom with custom kernel to improve something that should just work fine out of the box.. want to talk about the sound volume problem on the Galaxy Nexus? or the really poor wifi and the C8 bug? and what about the Nexus 4? with the loudspeaker inudible when it's on a flat surface? they fixed with a new phisical revision.. and the washed color screen? only fix is over kernel with colour control.
Talking about the CPU/GPU ofc it's an upgrade from snap600 to 800, but it's worth? only for the geek i would say, speed is blazing fast for both of them and the only benefit could be on battery usage, maybe 800 is better but who knows? ony the Note3 and the HTC One Max have the 800 version and they have both totally different battery capacity and different OS (touchwiz and sense) so cannot be comparable, soon we will see.. gaming side they are both excelent.. you can play Battlefield at the same level with an i5 or an i7, with a titan or a 780, bigger number is not always better perfomarce.
the N5 will have other problems like all phones have, M7 is not perfect (build gap in some early ships, pink camera issues) but let's compare: they have the same screen resolution, the same dimension, the same android official version (soon), none of them has removal battery, none has sdcard expansion, both have LTE.. 32gb M7 is 430€ here, 32gb N5 is 399€..
imho m7 wins.
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I was looking at two phones as my choices for my next phone. The S4 is my other choice and that one hasn't been revealed yet. Should I get this phone regardless of the S4 or should I look at the S4 to prevent buyer's remorse?
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I was looking at two phones as my choices for my next phone. The S4 is my other choice and that one hasn't been revealed yet. Should I get this phone regardless of the S4 or should I look at the S4 to prevent buyer's remorse?
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Honestly - I say wait.
Either way, we will know about the GS4 before the launch of the HTC One if I'm not mistaken.
As above, if you're not too sure, you're better off waiting for the s4 so you can test both out.
Also, please post any questions in Q&A from now on.
Depends. If you're like me who liked the HTC One on a design perspective then get it now. If you look on specs or features then better wait and decide.
I can make things Simplify its almost confirm that s4 will use 4.9 or 5" screen but dafinately never yet able to made phone using complete metal unibody Samsung is about 85% plastic, afaic I never pay premium price for plastic from now as off coz HTC increase the bar in terms of premium design I don't care at all if it look more or less similar that endless comparison will never end for me how I feel personally to it is more important
Another thing S4 will never have ultra pixel or similar innovation so quick as for now like on HTC one and duel speaker and irda remote and Zoe and complete unibody will surely differentiate HTC ONE from other
For me higher GHz, more mega pixel better benchmark larger screen, card slot or any type software which feature which can be easy to port across android devices and these things can't make phone better so even thought s4 equipped everything but not htc one's premium distinct feature like irda, metal body exact size, qulity cam, ois Zoe, duel and loudest sound
I see Z and One and withing 3 min I finalize on One coz Z got poor viewing angle slow interface, too big and can't take advantage of full 5 inch coz on screen is tricky to appear and dissolved some time and taking space
I suggest don't expect too high but suggest you 'ONE'
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I can make things Simplify its almost confirm that s4 will use 4.9 or 5" screen but dafinately never yet able to made phone using complete metal unibody Samsung is about 85% plastic, afaic I never pay premium price for plastic from now as off coz HTC increase the bar in terms of premium design I don't care at all if it look more or less similar that endless comparison will never end for me how I feel personally to it is more important
Another thing S4 will never have ultra pixel or similar innovation so quick as for now like on HTC one and duel speaker and irda remote and Zoe and complete unibody will surely differentiate HTC ONE from other
For me higher GHz, more mega pixel better benchmark larger screen, card slot or any type software which feature which can be easy to port across android devices and these things can't make phone better so even thought s4 equipped everything but not htc one's premium distinct feature like irda, metal body exact size, qulity cam, ois Zoe, duel and loudest sound
I see Z and One and withing 3 min I finalize on One coz Z got poor viewing angle slow interface, too big and can't take advantage of full 5 inch coz on screen is tricky to appear and dissolved some time and taking space
I suggest don't expect too high but suggest you 'ONE'
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1. Yes you're right. But samsung will be adding little aluminum on the sides of galaxy s4.
2. Samsung will indeed never have ultrapixel as that is copyrighted by HTC. Plus on my own preferences I would still prefer megapixels over this unless they balance this out. And also! Samsung was the first with the IR Remote so don't say that HTC was first. Even Xperia Z/ZL introduced them earlier than HTC.
3. Just to be fair enough with samsung. Samsung will have irda, S-Pen, multi window.
4. Z does not have poor viewing angles. It's pretty obvious you never seen it personally I could say it's only average but no not poor. And yeah the UI is not slow I didn't encounter any UI hiccups even just once when I was testing it.
And seriously? Too big? Mind you the Xperia Z is only less than 2millimeter bigger than HTC One. That's almost like as thick as the cloth/textile on your shirt.
I am not trying to go against you but I don't really like biased comments.
The Droid DNA does very well in reviews and benchmarks. Check out the YouTube videos about its reviews and benchmarks.
I have a Note 2 and it is also a good phone if you like to watch movies/shows on the go.
trying to decide between n4 and this phone. $300 vs $550 difference for me. I know n4 update rumored to release or at least announce at google IO.
Its worth it.
Better camera ,speakers, display, cpu etc
U wont be dissapointed
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Its worth it.
Better camera ,speakers, display, cpu etc
U wont be dissapointed
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I have both, 4.2.2 Vanilla kicks the HTC's non-Sense butt... but the hardware... oh sooo much better... I am waiting to be able to run vanilla on the One, that would be a dream...
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trying to decide between n4 and this phone. $300 vs $550 difference for me. I know n4 update rumored to release or at least announce at google IO.
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I have both and it is a matter of preference. The One is a fine piece of Hardware if you can get one with no problems Sense 5 is nice and well done, great camera, and amazing sound. Nexus 4 you will have the most current software out there but a sub par camera IMHO. Both have good call quality reception etc etc. I like them both for different reasons it is just a matter of personal preference. Good luck with your decision just be sure to check your One over before you walk out of the store I am #3 but it seems good so far. First one was very excessive heat and major lag issues and the second one the volume rocker did not work. Just letting you know so if you make the decision you can know to check them out before you leave
thanks for the responses.
I bought a nexus 4 earlier this month and a one on Saturday. I am returning ng the n4 because hspa was just too slow for me. I came from a one x which I had set on h instead of lte was still faster at loading web pages. Even when I was using WiFi, I found my one x faster and locked on better. There are some aspects of the N4 I like but the one is pretty sweet. Happy I switched.
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Its worth it.
Better camera ,speakers, display, cpu etc
U wont be dissapointed
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It's definitely better than the n4. Vanilla android is featureless, colorless, and boring and the one runs faster and smoother than the N4 and the software and hardware is miles better than the N4
thanks guys. after playing with demo units today, I'm gonna go with new n4 (hopefull released on the 15th). JUst not worth the $300 premium for me. I found out i like the stock android experience.
I ended up upgrading to the ONE, it's been only two days but I'm kind of leaning towards It not being worth the cost premium.
The colors are a bit nicer, and the screen autobright is brighter, but my eyes can't really tell the difference in clarity. I'll be switching back and forth and will update my post later.
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bob13bob said:
I ended up upgrading to the ONE, it's been only two days but I'm kind of leaning towards It not being worth the cost premium.
The colors are a bit nicer, and the screen autobright is brighter, but my eyes can't really tell the difference in clarity. I'll be switching back and forth and will update my post later.
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I owned the Nexus 4 since Nov. Now I have the One Developer. I can honestly say the following:
PROS
1 - The One is noticeably faster
2 - Flash is there on stock browser
3 - GPS locks are lightning fast
4 - Screen is sharper, clearer, better color reproduction
5 - Camera is much better
6 - Battery life is better (after last update)
7 - Sound from speakers is incredible - blows away the Nexus
8 - Listening thru good headset the sound coming from the HTC again blows away the Nexus (Beats)
9 - 64 gb storage vs 16 max on the Nexus
10 - Voice quality on normal calls is crystal clear
11 - Build quality much better
CONS
1 - No wireless charging
2 - No Google Wallet
3 - Nexus 4 will always get the updates first
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bob13bob said:
I ended up upgrading to the ONE, it's been only two days but I'm kind of leaning towards It not being worth the cost premium.
The colors are a bit nicer, and the screen autobright is brighter, but my eyes can't really tell the difference in clarity. I'll be switching back and forth and will update my post later.
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let me know how the comparison between HTC One and Nexus 4 goes as I'm in the same situation. I currently use the N4 and been tempted to buy the HTC One but what has stopped me so far is the Sense UI and the quality of the camera (for a phone of this price).
mkouk said:
let me know how the comparison between HTC One and Nexus 4 goes as I'm in the same situation. I currently use the N4 and been tempted to buy the HTC One but what has stopped me so far is the Sense UI and the quality of the camera (for a phone of this price).
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quality of the camera is best .. its better than the iPhone 5 , Nexus 4' camera stands nowhere infront of htc one's camera. Hardware wise s4 pro vs snapdragon 600= huge difference . And Sense UI is way better than stock android ui atleast for me and dozen of folks around . Samsung GS4 is rubbish build quality sucks infront of the all metal one , ONE feels way better in hand ( both are of same price approx.) SGS4 camera has tough competition from our 4 ultrapixel cam .. You are wrong about the sense ui and quality of the cam ITS the one of the best out here on mobile (probs on no.1)
I'm not bothered about comparisons between the HTC One and Galaxy S4. I had the Galaxy Nexus and the AMOLED screen is not my preference. I do however, have a preference towards Stock UI. I have been using Nexus phones since Nexus One. The camera is only an issue if i decide to flash CM on the HTC One which means that the AOSP rom will not be able to process the photos in the same way, resulting in bad quality photos.
Depends on what you want from your phone and what style suits you, both of those phones can perform really well, so it really comes down to what you like the look of and what pros and cons can sway you as an individual.
For me the One is the better phone, without sounding biased.
Plus with cyanogen mod team doing their thing it won't be long until we have a fully fledged working vanilla style rom.
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quality of the camera is best .. its better than the iPhone 5 , Nexus 4' camera stands nowhere infront of htc one's camera. Hardware wise s4 pro vs snapdragon 600= huge difference . And Sense UI is way better than stock android ui atleast for me and dozen of folks around . Samsung GS4 is rubbish build quality sucks infront of the all metal one , ONE feels way better in hand ( both are of same price approx.) SGS4 camera has tough competition from our 4 ultrapixel cam .. You are wrong about the sense ui and quality of the cam ITS the one of the best out here on mobile (probs on no.1)
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here's a thread on it's camera. i posted a comparison n4 vs one shot.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=41717762#post41717762
you can look at youtube vids to see how the one is ever so slightly faster in opening up browser and loading webpages. However, the nexus 4 is faster scrolling tapatalk and 8 tracks (one has jitters here).
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I owned the Nexus 4 since Nov. Now I have the One Developer. I can honestly say the
following:
PROS
1 - The One is noticeably faster
2 - Flash is there on stock browser
3 - GPS locks are lightning fast
4 - Screen is sharper, clearer, better color reproduction
5 - Camera is much better
6 - Battery life is better (after last update)
7 - Sound from speakers is incredible - blows away the Nexus
8 - Listening thru good headset the sound coming from the HTC again blows away the Nexus (Beats)
9 - 64 gb storage vs 16 max on the Nexus
10 - Voice quality on normal calls is crystal clear
11 - Build quality much better
CONS
1 - No wireless charging
2 - No Google Wallet
3 - Nexus 4 will always get the updates first
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tmobile 1.27 here. 1.29 is supposed to improve things like camera, and the capacitive buttons. Both phones stock. i've used my nexus 4 for ~12days and my one for 3 days so far on tmobile. If the camera was clearly better or I needed the wifi calling or LTE, it would be worth the $230 premium to me easily. If you ave the option of a subsidized phone, then I would buy an S4 > resell, then buy the phone you want.
with tmobile, I haven't needed wifi calling yet, data speeds are plenty fast without lte (and we don't have it yet). The camera difference discussed in more detail here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=41717762#post41717762
what's important nexus 4 vs one for me.
NEXUS 4 PROS
-noticeably faster in 8 tracks and tapatalk. (especially when scrolling, the one jitters a lot more) [turn taptalk posts/page to 50]
see discussion here. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=41719714#post41719714
update After enabling 2d gfx acceleration. The one is now a lot faster scrolling in 8 tracks. the N4 is slighly faster scroller in tapatalk. Giving the edge to ONE here now.
-camera is better outdoors. haven't done enough indoor testing to know yet.
-one gets hotter while using away from wifi
-less bezel, and much better screen to front face ratio. part of this is the physical buttons and front
speakers
-*major the n4 keyboard is much better. the one keyboard lags when switching to number mode and back. Also, during intensive applications the ONE keyboard lags even when typing letters. more noticeable when swyping. Swype on n4 is also better.
-the OS is more intuitive.
-power controls accessible from the the slide down menu.
-one has overly fragile camera cover plastic from reports here
-gallery app much better. I can share via gmail app and google plus directly and easily. on the one, you have to open up gmail app, then hit attach > find your folder.
-you can browse all your google cloud uploaded photoS on the gallery app.
-*minor n4 has google wallet (i use rarely)
-naked, the n4 is more comfortable in my hands.
BUTTONS
-htc one has physcial buttons, but the menu button is onscreen for much of the phone use. it's a waste of
screen space. the n4 has all on screen buttons. 100% on screen >> 40% on screen + 60% off screen buttons.
-at the botton of the front face, the htc has a speaker, capacitive buttons, and onscreen menu button. a
big chunk of space I consider not well spent. n4 has much less wasted space
-htc one capacitive buttons are less ergonomic for me to hit, because of this the phone feels less
ergonomic.
-on n4 screen buttons. I thought I would hate them, but I found out I love them.
*major visual feedback when a button is pressed. with the one, sometimes I miss the home button, and have
to press multiple times. (supposed to be improved with 1.29 update). this never happens with the n4.
every button lets you know when it's pressed. you know when you missed, and when the phone is just lagging.
*back, home, multitask, and menu buttons on in the same easy to find place.
*buttons change dynamically. if the back buttons minimizes the keyboard, it changes it's shape to be clear
It displays a menu button only when and if there is a menu option
ONE PROS
-*major screen has better colors,
-screen better clarity
-*major screen is brighter under auto bright
-*major battery life is supposed to be better, haven't had long enough to really evaluate
-*major 32gb vs 16gb on the n4 model. it's a major to me.
-IR remote is really cool. I don't know how much I'll use it though. Hopefully they come out with some 3rd party universal programmable remote software. If so, this will turn in to a *MAJOR.
-phone looks sleak, metal construction
-phone is louder, sounds better
-phone vibrate is very strong
-tmobile wifi calling + lte
-*major camera is better low light shooter, and quicker to focus
neutral
-the n4 is slightly wider screen aspect ratio. fits slightly more horizontal text reading. The one has more vertical space, more vertical text (at least when you don't have that pesky menu bar)
-gps locks plenty fast on both devices
-one phone feels denser
bob13bob said:
here's a thread on it's camera. i posted a comparison n4 vs one shot.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=41717762#post41717762
you can look at youtube vids to see how the one is ever so slightly faster in opening up browser and loading webpages. However, the nexus 4 is faster scrolling tapatalk and 8 tracks (one has jitters here).
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update After enabling 2d gfx acceleration. The one is now a lot faster scrolling in 8 tracks. the N4 is slighly faster scroller in tapatalk. Giving the edge to ONE here now.
I've recently bought an HTC Butterfly S (901s) and I must admit it's a wonderful device.
Having owned an HTC One too, I wanted to have all its good stuff with a bigger screen, bigger battery and expandable storage.
Well, to me the Butterfly S does the magic: it has "almost" everything and more (aluminum unibody design aside of course!)
Well, today I just discovered that something else must be added to the "almost" session: the OIS. I though the Butterfly S had exactly the same camera module the HTC One has, while now I see the OIS is not present. That's a pity, although nothing too dramatic to me, I'd rather have the expandable storage and other stuff.
Anyway, with this post I just wanted to find out other things the Butterfly S misses in respect to the HTC One.
The first thing that comes to my mind is the HAAC mic. I've been searching this info everywhere with no luck (there seems to be very few info about this device!), does any of you know for sure if these kind of mics are missing or they are used into the Butterfly S?
Another hardware diff may be about RAM type: is it LPDDR2 or LPDDR3?
Thanks in advance
Just try to record some very loud music with your Butterfly S and you will know if it has the HDR mic. I also want to find out about this as that will decide which device to get.
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Just try to record some very loud music with your Butterfly S and you will know if it has the HDR mic. I also want to find out about this as that will decide which device to get.
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I am deciding to get HTC Butterfly S or HTC One... any advise?
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I am deciding to get HTC Butterfly S or HTC One... any advise?
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I think the biggest factor is the build - the Butterfly S has a glossy plastic build that's finished like a car paint while the One comes with the famous aluminium body of which the chamfers around the edges are susceptible to dents upon impact. I see a lot of value for the grey variant of the Butterfly S - best looking plastic phone (but that's purely personal opinion). As for the battery life, the One probably has enough for a day for most people but having 3200mAh in the Butterfly S does assure you that you can get through a day regardless of what you do. Whichever the case, I still have not made my purchase yet - still struggling like you. LOL!
I got a vouchers from my telco (StarHub) and will expire on the 1st Sep... so I still do have some time to think. Samsung S4 will be my third choice... their keyboard is not as good as HTC though and heard it lags.
I like the battery factor and expandable storage for Butterfly S. How how how?!
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I got a vouchers from my telco (StarHub) and will expire on the 1st Sep... so I still do have some time to think. Samsung S4 will be my third choice... their keyboard is not as good as HTC though and heard it lags.
I like the battery factor and expandable storage for Butterfly S. How how how?!
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Lucky you, your telco is StarHub. M1's prices are just off putting. And yeah, the battery life is really good, easily can last you the whole day on a single charge.
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I got a vouchers from my telco (StarHub) and will expire on the 1st Sep... so I still do have some time to think. Samsung S4 will be my third choice... their keyboard is not as good as HTC though and heard it lags.
I like the battery factor and expandable storage for Butterfly S. How how how?!
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With the variety of third party keyboards available that performs better than stock and allow u to sync your dictionary across devices, stock keyboards should not be a deciding factor imo.
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Lucky you, your telco is StarHub. M1's prices are just off putting. And yeah, the battery life is really good, easily can last you the whole day on a single charge.
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But are you using one now? What colour did you get? So you are using M1? How much did you pay for your phone?
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I am deciding to get HTC Butterfly S or HTC One... any advise?
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I currently have the Butterfly S and previously had the One. The One was a wonderful phone and the reason I changed was... well, I got it stolen... So I decided to try the new Butterfly S that was just released.
Both are really nice devices, but if I was to decide which I prefer, I think I like the Butterfly S just because of the larger battery (and the expandable storage a plus). The build quality of the One is much better, but I usually use a case so it's usually not really noticeable. I'm also not too crazy about taking pictures so the missing OIS doesn't bother me too much either. It'll just going to be quicks snaps and if I really wanted to take nice pictures I'll use my professional camera.
It's bulkier and heavier in my pocket, but it's just something I'll have to live with.
Oh a BIG factor for me would be LTE. It supports it here in Asia, but I think it doesn't support LTE in the US? In that case, I think I would consider the One.
Between the GS4 and the One, I think the One is cooler
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With the variety of third party keyboards available that performs better than stock and allow u to sync your dictionary across devices, stock keyboards should not be a deciding factor imo.
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Yes I agree... pardon me... I am very new to Android and yet to own one as a matter of fact!
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Yeah using it now in red colour on M1. What I did was to recontract for an iPhone 5, brought it down to mobilesquare, traded in and topped up for the butterfly s. All in all only paid $170, much better than paying the cut throat price of M1's.
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I currently have the Butterfly S and previously had the One. The One was a wonderful phone and the reason I changed was... well, I got it stolen... So I decided to try the new Butterfly S that was just released.
Both are really nice devices, but if I was to decide which I prefer, I think I like the Butterfly S just because of the larger battery (and the expandable storage a plus). The build quality of the One is much better, but I usually use a case so it's usually not really noticeable. I'm also not too crazy about taking pictures so the missing OIS doesn't bother me too much either. It'll just going to be quicks snaps and if I really wanted to take nice pictures I'll use my professional camera.
It's bulkier and heavier in my pocket, but it's just something I'll have to live with.
Oh a BIG factor for me would be LTE. It supports it here in Asia, but I think it doesn't support LTE in the US? In that case, I think I would consider the One.
Between the GS4 and the One, I think the One is cooler
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Missing OIS... Hmmm... what does it do? Any comparison picture out there?
And yes, thankfully here in Singapore, the units here supports LTE!
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Missing OIS... Hmmm... what does it do? Any comparison picture out there?
And yes, thankfully here in Singapore, the units here supports LTE!
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I had to think about what OIS was. It's Optical Image Stabilization. I have both the One and Butterfly S and I hadn't noticed a difference. Actually, I took a shot with the S in pretty dim light and it was pretty sharp (although somewhat noisy but on par with the other phones or even better). So I would say it might not matter in real life terms. The camera settings still lets you choose "anti-shake" so I don't know why that is if there is no OIS.
But I'll tell you something funny, I think the S seems to expose the pictures better...
The S doesn't have the physical "wow" of the One when you pick it up, but in most things it is a more practical phone, so I prefer using it right now over the One.
Ken
After much consideration, I had gotten myself one silver HTC Butterfly S and so far loving it!
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I had to think about what OIS was. It's Optical Image Stabilization. I have both the One and Butterfly S and I hadn't noticed a difference. Actually, I took a shot with the S in pretty dim light and it was pretty sharp (although somewhat noisy but on par with the other phones or even better). So I would say it might not matter in real life terms. The camera settings still lets you choose "anti-shake" so I don't know why that is if there is no OIS.
But I'll tell you something funny, I think the S seems to expose the pictures better...
The S doesn't have the physical "wow" of the One when you pick it up, but in most things it is a more practical phone, so I prefer using it right now over the One.
Ken
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If anyone is interested in comparison photos between One (with OIS) and Butterfly S (without OIS), I found the site http://www.max-up.ru/news-apple/htc-butterfly-s-vs-htc-one.html
Although it's in Russian, you can compare the photos, which were shooted by One and Butterfly S.
Here a good comparative in benchmarks amongst One and others
Well, i'm glad i found this thread, as i just bought my HTC One Stealth Black yesterday and since i've already did my homework on which one to buy, compared to the Butterfly S, i wanted to share my views and opinions. By the way, i buy all my devices unlocked (international), so for me, carrier or 4G LTE availability is not an issue.
Butterfly S v/s One
Advantages of using the newer Butterfly S:
- Faster CPU (it's actually the exact same Snapdragon 600 as in the HTC One, but just overclocked and i believe there are apps which allow you to overclock your HTC One to boost it from 1.7 GHz to 1.9 GHz. The GPU stays the same with the Adreno 320 on both devices. On a side note, if HTC had implemented a Snapdragon 800 into the newer Butterfly S, it would have been a different story.)
- Bigger display (it's 5" versus HTC One's 4.7", which isn't a huge difference in my opinion. I've seen both phones side by side and given that you are sacrificing the One's industry-leading PPI record of 468 to Butterfly S's 441, i'd say you're not losing if you go with either one of them. But it's definitely very cool to say that you own the device with the highest PPI until now and probably till the end of 2013. Having a slightly bigger 5" display is not worth singing any praise about, unless you happen to own an Xperia Z Ultra with 6.44" - lol)
- Removable microSD storage (it's a trade-off with respect to the One, as you get half the amount of internal memory, which is faster than external memory and 32 GB is more than enough for the average user - i personally have 25 GB left on my One which i'm trying to fill up with some worthy 1080p movies and games)
- 3 capacitive buttons (versus the One's 2 buttons. OK, i admit i got a gripe with HTC due to this limitation, but then it's not exceptionally annoying and stressful that you can't live without. Double-tap more and get your fingers some exercise or just root and install the feature that enables your HTC logo to become a third capacitive button - problem solved!)
- Bigger battery (This seems to be the most common deciding factor for those considering to buy the best HTC phone (or simply put, the best phone) available right now. HTC One doesn't exhibit any particular weakness with its battery for the average user which lasts a day or more. But for heavy users or people who travel a lot, then the Butterfly S becomes the obvious choice. However, HTC One has a Power Saver mode which works really well, which i thought might be worth mentioning. Also, bigger battery means a beefier device which adds weight to your pocket. If you don't mind the extra weight and really need more juice to keep the lights on, then go for the Butterfly S)
- Gorilla Glass 3 (versus Gorilla Glass 2 on the One. This is not worth factoring into your decision to get either of these devices, as in my honest opinion, the strength of the Gorilla Glass 2 is already excellent by today's standards and Gorilla Glass 3 shatters just as Gorilla 2 in the exact same drop tests. I have yet to see a Gorilla Glass 3 device survive a drop test where a Gorilla Glass 2 device has failed in real life (not the testing done by Corning at the exhibitions where they have a simple piece of their newer glass under pressure from a clamp or dropping a metal ball on it and then tell you that the newer glass is better). Although i have to agree that having the latest glass on your device is always nice and comforting.)
Advantages of using the HTC One:
- Highest display resolution currently available on any smartphone.
- 32 GB internal memory (versus 16 GB on the Butterfly S) which is fastest when copying/loading/installing apps or games or anything else, for that matter.
- Gorgeous aluminium metal build (it gives the HTC One a unique look and feel among all other phones out there, including the plastic Butterfly S)
- Optical Image Stabilization in the One's camera (which is missing from the Butterfly S)
- And i've kept the best reason for last, which really gave me a huge push to go for the HTC One - since you're already on XDA, check out the forums for both of these devices and based on the number of threads and replies, you should easily be able to spot the big difference in developer support. Most importantly, there is the existence of the HTC One Google Edition. There is no (and never will have a) Google Edition for the Butterfly S. Basically, what does that mean? Don't expect anything other than minor updates and bug fixes once 2013 is over as HTC will obviously be backing its new line-up of 2014 flagship smartphones - but if you own an HTC One, you can ditch the stock ROM (by 2014, it'll be outdated when Sense 6.0 comes out and all of 2013's devices are left to run on Sense 5.x) and still stay at the forefront of the Android scene by rooting and installing the official HTC One Google Edition ROM, which works perfectly. There is no waiting time for XDA developers to adapt the GE ROM to your international HTC One. You can basically turn your HTC One with Sense into a 100% working HTC One Google Edition. Even OTA works! The other Google Edition phone (Galaxy S4, shhh) unlike HTC One, cannot benefit from a direct installation of its GE ROM variant (i9505G), as there are differences in hardware which requires an XDA developer to stitch things up and OTA doesn't work so you'll have to wait weeks or months after a new Android version is released before you can install a stable version of the latest pure Android ROM on your S4 (This applies only to the i9505 as the Exynos is a mess with missing drivers, but that's for another topic in another section of the forum).
So, that's it, folks! I hope you found my review and analysis helpful. Please leave some feedback and feel free to discuss if you agree or not.
So your saying that the HTC ONE is better
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So your saying that the HTC ONE is better
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i interpret the comments as "the HTC One is better for him/her"..
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So your saying that the HTC ONE is better
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In my case, the HTC One is definitely the one, since i ended up buying the HTC One over the Butterfly S. The difference in price between these two handsets is negligible considering that you're already going to spend a lot to get either the HTC One or the Butterfly S. But i have exhaustively discussed my point of view in my previous post above, so feel free to disagree if you feel that i was partial to the HTC One in my comparative analysis or if i missed any other important aspect(s) worth mentioning.
I was debating and then I was like "what was I thinking" though the camera is mediocre, and speakers are Ok, everything else is fantastic.
I was going to wait for the HTC one2, and realized that more than likely no other phone soon will be able to last as long as the z1 with their battery saving software.
to be honest with you, as much as I complain about my Z1, overall there isnt one device out there for me that tops it. Just hope that the new update will do something to the Camera and 4K vid recording is something I really really wanted, but not enough to move be back to Samsung.
I have Z1, SGS4 and used the nexus 5 for a day and a half, I will compare them below
Nexus 5 best performance but lack features
SGS4 worst performance (too much lag and stuttering) but has lots of features (most of which are useless and no-one actually uses them except to show off)
Z1 excellent performance (almost identical to the nexus 5) and has some useful features like camera apps, small apps ...etc
Although the Z1 is not perfect (nothing is perfect), but it is the best overall phone out there. I will get chance to play with the HTC ONE for few days in a week or two then I will probably be able to say what is the best phone currently available (apart from the LG G2 which I haven't had the chance to play with).
Not even considered it, got it sim free and I'm happy with it
I returned mine because I spotted a dead (or maybe stuck) pixel on the screen. I hope I'll have better luck next time.
I am very very disappointed in the camera, the speaker is actually close to top considering its a tiny waterproof speaker but I love every thing else about the Z1 so no, I didn't return my device and I wont be doing so.
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to be honest with you, as much as I complain about my Z1, overall there isnt one device out there for me that tops it. Just hope that the new update will do something to the Camera and 4K vid recording is something I really really wanted, but not enough to move be back to Samsung.
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I'm interested in knowing why since I was thinking about getting the Note 3.
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I'm interested in knowing why since I was thinking about getting the Note 3.
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Actually I had the Note 3, it is the worst mistake that I made up until now!
now the problems I had with it are more philosophical than fair, so to make it fair I'll only point out the problems that "others" consider worthy!
1. Not so great looking even though its an improvement over the S4 and Note 2
2. Has A LOT of bloat ware
3. Cheap looking/feeling device (like all Samsungs)
4. Depending on what you do with it scales form lagging a couple of times a day to constantly lagging (I couldn't handle the lag so...)
5. Bigger than most people would want it to be (I actually where okay with it mainly because I didn't called anyone with it)
6. You would look Very-Very stupid talking with it on the street or anywhere else for that matter!
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I'm interested in knowing why since I was thinking about getting the Note 3.
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mostly personally preference but Im coming from a S3 owner, but here are some of the reasons
-touchwiz, hate it with a passion, actually got to play with a real note 3 today at the store and it actually still lag a little bit like seriously lol?! Checked the ram consumption it always over 1.2+ gigs after I clear everything it goes back up quickly no wonder why they keep added more rams for all the galaxy phones. My Z1 has to be on for a couple of weeks to hit over 1 gig and generally around 0.9.
-hate OLED colors, it has gotten a lot better with the pentile problem but still not enough to bring me back. Triluminos looks better to me straight on even if you have to sacrifice the wash out colors in extreme angles which I never look at my phone that way. Plus I see color shifting problems on Note 3, like yellow would turn green in a angle, so viewing angle is not a clear victory on the note 3 neither (same with Nexus 5 and G2 which have their own problems in extreme angle when I played with them today). Didn't get to do out door test with the note 3 not sure if it become unreadable under the sun.
-Built quality, I dont think I need to say much here, just personally when I pay hundreds of dollars for a flashship device I want it to actually feel like a flagship device.
the only features in the Note 3 that I want in the Z1 is the 4K video recording, downsampling 4K video to play on 1080p screen is a huge difference. You don't need a 4K display to take advantage of it. I used to think that the multi screen features from note2 and S3 is going to make me happy with my S3 again, but after the update came out I've never use it once.... Its all personal preference so those my not apply to others.
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I have Z1, SGS4 and used the nexus 5 for a day and a half, I will compare them below
Nexus 5 best performance but lack features
SGS4 worst performance (too much lag and stuttering) but has lots of features (most of which are useless and no-one actually uses them except to show off)
Z1 excellent performance (almost identical to the nexus 5) and has some useful features like camera apps, small apps ...etc
Although the Z1 is not perfect (nothing is perfect), but it is the best overall phone out there. I will get chance to play with the HTC ONE for few days in a week or two then I will probably be able to say what is the best phone currently available (apart from the LG G2 which I haven't had the chance to play with).
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I'm coming from Note 2, Galaxy s4 and HTC one to Sony Z1, apart from note 2 (which I liked) the other's are disappointing s4 has lag and loads of stupid features you turn off, HTC One was boring and battery life was rubbish plus I was scared to scrape or dent the metal (best sound though) . I was wanting Note 3 but too expensive and cant believe it still has lag, plus Knox! (which totally put me off s4)
Sony Z1 feels premium has a decent enough camera and battery is probably the best with the note 2 I've had.
Before I had Z1 I was waiting for Nexus 5 and was going to sell s4, but after seeing it, Z1 is much better.
Thank you all guys you opened (again) my eyes. There are just few things that make me sad about the Z1.
- camera is not so fantastic. Unless you have the stone hand just pressing the hw button from focus to shoot makes the phone shaking and the picture a little blurry. This is almost not noticeable with high lights but as soon start to be a little darker things gets worse. Thus in low lights this camera is totally incapable to take decent pictures, what you see 'good' in your screen will be post processed and 'destroyed'. No manual mode could help ATM.
- freaking hardware buttons
I can't believe that my 5" real estate triluminus 400+ DPI 1080 **** should have a damn waste of space: soft keys IMHO are the android cancer. Now I'm using a pie (after gtm) it's okay but still annoying and uncomfortable. I'll be happy to pay one dollar more and have at least a central hw button. Note that I compared twitter, Google+ and Chrome with the iPhone and on the smaller 4" there is much more space!!! This piss me off!!!!
- unlock the boot loader. I used to pay the retail price in order to not increase the US mafia of carriers. After more than a month this phone isn't really unlockable. No official words from Sony about the fact they are working for a fix or a date. This scares me.
- 2013 and our display is not oleophobic. This makes me sad even more when a friend tell me: cool phone can I see it? And my screen is a finger print fest. Tried almost any good screen protector antifinger print. None of them really works without decrease the screen quality.
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Just one tip.
Don't compare N5 and Z1 now.
Wait until Z1 gets 4.4 then you'll see what Z1 is capable to do.
As I said few times, it's better to have great camera (hardware) which is fixable than great software without hardware support.
Z1 has great camera and with 4.4 update we will have the best device money can buy...
Everyone compares N5 and Z1 now and all of them are unique in conclusion - these two devices are similar but remember we are comparing 4.2.2 with 4.4 - so you can just imagine Z1 with a KitKat under the hood
It will fly
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...amazing hardware! I got my N5 a couple of days ago (bought at launch hour, used comGateway to forward it to India, takes time ) and so far I've been playing with it non-stop (have a few exams prep leaves ), and here are my impressions so far.
My background: I'm a huge Nexus fanboy, I own (or have owned) every Nexus device with the exception of Nexus Q and currently possess fully working Galaxy Nexus (16GB), Nexus 4 (16GB), Nexus 7 (2012, 16GB) and Nexus 7 (2013, 32GB) all bought more or less at launch along with a Galaxy Note and Galaxy S2. My device before was my N4 bought at launch and it was great, but I can't simply skip my temptation to get the new N5, so I did. I don't care about the price, I can very well afford a phone far more expensive. I buy Nexus devices because I love the pure stock experience they bring, it just somehow feels better to me.
Note: I've been using N4 exclusively before this for almost a year, so all my views are in relation to it.
My device: White Nexus 5, 32GB. Pure stock with an unlocked bootloader and rooted.
The Good:
Bigger, better screen! The screen is taller without being (much) wider, and it's gorgeous! I know some people are saying colours are washed out etc, but that's just the IPS display which I'm used to, plus when colour control gets modded into kernels that won't be much of a problem. It's a lot sharper than my N4 and definitely brighter]
Performance! It has the highest binned Snapdragon 800! Need I say more? It can smoke anything out their
Storage is a welcome improvement, sometimes I had to choose between games on my N4 but with double the storage I don't have that problem (atleast for a while )
Camera is a lot more improved than the one on N4, I haven't tested it too thoroughly but it's definitely improved especially in low light conditions
KitKat and GEL are a welcome change, I like the subtle UI improvements and I love the fact that BT audio and software audio levels are not two different things anymore, that used to drive me crazy
I love the white version's looks and build, I was torn what to get when purchasing this from the Play Store but decided to go with the white since it's different. The speaker grill adds a really nice touch IMO and back has a good feel to it. Personally I'd prefer a little more build, but with the ceramic sides and everything it's nice, definitely not cheap.
The Okay:
Battery life, meh. This was expected, it's slightly better than N4's but still not great. On my first run I was able to get out about 2 hours of SOT with 1 hour of GPS, 1 hour of audio over BT, and a lot of updating/downloading games. So that's not bad, N4 lasted me a day and I don't see N5 doing any worse, if anything it'll do better when I switch to custom kernels
Speaker is an improvement but nothing great
The Ugly:
Camera shutter lag, I absolutely hate this. Maybe I'm crazy or something but I hate that it takes a lot of time to click pictures, with the chance of entirely blurring out the picture when given to someone else. Hopefully something improves this
No always on listening , I was hoping for this feature from Moto X
TL;DR: Get the freaking device. It's awesome. And get it in white, seriously.
Lmao you got me with the thread title.
Very clever! Good thread!
Google should make a COMPLETELY new camera app, and upload it to the Play Store for everyone to enjoy. And they should do that quickly. Current camera app is terrible! (The shutter lag it because of the software, not the hardware)
Can 3rd party camera apps help or is this only a google issue?
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I see what you did there.
I'd get it, if it wasn't sold out EVERYWHERE in Belgium, Netherlands, and Germany.
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I'd get it, if it wasn't sold out EVERYWHERE in Belgium, Netherlands, and Germany.
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See, that's why you stay awake till midnight of your country's time to place an order in US the moment it launches so that you can import it to your country
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Your thread title will surely gather greater intra-xda SEO. (Bringing more and more members confused by the title of the thread).
Please get it changed.
I agree.. Amazing phone! I came from a n4 and HTC one.. I just wish there was better speakers on this device. My one spoiled me!
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Your thread title will surely gather greater intra-xda SEO. (Bringing more and more members confused by the title of the thread).
Please get it changed.
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I don't see why that is a bad thing?
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you Win..
the game!!
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Can 3rd party camera apps help or is this only a google issue?
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Yes! Just found this last night and played around with it:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.spritefish.fastburstcameralite
The quality is a little less than the regular camera, but there is zero shutter lag. The paid version is $2 and it allows you to tap focus and take nicer pictures when you want to. Will still need the standard camera for HDR+ mode (which takes excellent shots that this can't touch).
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you Win..
the game!!
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I hate you so much...
:crying::crying::crying: