trying to decide between n4 and this phone. $300 vs $550 difference for me. I know n4 update rumored to release or at least announce at google IO.
Its worth it.
Better camera ,speakers, display, cpu etc
U wont be dissapointed
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Its worth it.
Better camera ,speakers, display, cpu etc
U wont be dissapointed
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I have both, 4.2.2 Vanilla kicks the HTC's non-Sense butt... but the hardware... oh sooo much better... I am waiting to be able to run vanilla on the One, that would be a dream...
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trying to decide between n4 and this phone. $300 vs $550 difference for me. I know n4 update rumored to release or at least announce at google IO.
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I have both and it is a matter of preference. The One is a fine piece of Hardware if you can get one with no problems Sense 5 is nice and well done, great camera, and amazing sound. Nexus 4 you will have the most current software out there but a sub par camera IMHO. Both have good call quality reception etc etc. I like them both for different reasons it is just a matter of personal preference. Good luck with your decision just be sure to check your One over before you walk out of the store I am #3 but it seems good so far. First one was very excessive heat and major lag issues and the second one the volume rocker did not work. Just letting you know so if you make the decision you can know to check them out before you leave
thanks for the responses.
I bought a nexus 4 earlier this month and a one on Saturday. I am returning ng the n4 because hspa was just too slow for me. I came from a one x which I had set on h instead of lte was still faster at loading web pages. Even when I was using WiFi, I found my one x faster and locked on better. There are some aspects of the N4 I like but the one is pretty sweet. Happy I switched.
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Its worth it.
Better camera ,speakers, display, cpu etc
U wont be dissapointed
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It's definitely better than the n4. Vanilla android is featureless, colorless, and boring and the one runs faster and smoother than the N4 and the software and hardware is miles better than the N4
thanks guys. after playing with demo units today, I'm gonna go with new n4 (hopefull released on the 15th). JUst not worth the $300 premium for me. I found out i like the stock android experience.
I ended up upgrading to the ONE, it's been only two days but I'm kind of leaning towards It not being worth the cost premium.
The colors are a bit nicer, and the screen autobright is brighter, but my eyes can't really tell the difference in clarity. I'll be switching back and forth and will update my post later.
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I ended up upgrading to the ONE, it's been only two days but I'm kind of leaning towards It not being worth the cost premium.
The colors are a bit nicer, and the screen autobright is brighter, but my eyes can't really tell the difference in clarity. I'll be switching back and forth and will update my post later.
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I owned the Nexus 4 since Nov. Now I have the One Developer. I can honestly say the following:
PROS
1 - The One is noticeably faster
2 - Flash is there on stock browser
3 - GPS locks are lightning fast
4 - Screen is sharper, clearer, better color reproduction
5 - Camera is much better
6 - Battery life is better (after last update)
7 - Sound from speakers is incredible - blows away the Nexus
8 - Listening thru good headset the sound coming from the HTC again blows away the Nexus (Beats)
9 - 64 gb storage vs 16 max on the Nexus
10 - Voice quality on normal calls is crystal clear
11 - Build quality much better
CONS
1 - No wireless charging
2 - No Google Wallet
3 - Nexus 4 will always get the updates first
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I ended up upgrading to the ONE, it's been only two days but I'm kind of leaning towards It not being worth the cost premium.
The colors are a bit nicer, and the screen autobright is brighter, but my eyes can't really tell the difference in clarity. I'll be switching back and forth and will update my post later.
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let me know how the comparison between HTC One and Nexus 4 goes as I'm in the same situation. I currently use the N4 and been tempted to buy the HTC One but what has stopped me so far is the Sense UI and the quality of the camera (for a phone of this price).
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let me know how the comparison between HTC One and Nexus 4 goes as I'm in the same situation. I currently use the N4 and been tempted to buy the HTC One but what has stopped me so far is the Sense UI and the quality of the camera (for a phone of this price).
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quality of the camera is best .. its better than the iPhone 5 , Nexus 4' camera stands nowhere infront of htc one's camera. Hardware wise s4 pro vs snapdragon 600= huge difference . And Sense UI is way better than stock android ui atleast for me and dozen of folks around . Samsung GS4 is rubbish build quality sucks infront of the all metal one , ONE feels way better in hand ( both are of same price approx.) SGS4 camera has tough competition from our 4 ultrapixel cam .. You are wrong about the sense ui and quality of the cam ITS the one of the best out here on mobile (probs on no.1)
I'm not bothered about comparisons between the HTC One and Galaxy S4. I had the Galaxy Nexus and the AMOLED screen is not my preference. I do however, have a preference towards Stock UI. I have been using Nexus phones since Nexus One. The camera is only an issue if i decide to flash CM on the HTC One which means that the AOSP rom will not be able to process the photos in the same way, resulting in bad quality photos.
Depends on what you want from your phone and what style suits you, both of those phones can perform really well, so it really comes down to what you like the look of and what pros and cons can sway you as an individual.
For me the One is the better phone, without sounding biased.
Plus with cyanogen mod team doing their thing it won't be long until we have a fully fledged working vanilla style rom.
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quality of the camera is best .. its better than the iPhone 5 , Nexus 4' camera stands nowhere infront of htc one's camera. Hardware wise s4 pro vs snapdragon 600= huge difference . And Sense UI is way better than stock android ui atleast for me and dozen of folks around . Samsung GS4 is rubbish build quality sucks infront of the all metal one , ONE feels way better in hand ( both are of same price approx.) SGS4 camera has tough competition from our 4 ultrapixel cam .. You are wrong about the sense ui and quality of the cam ITS the one of the best out here on mobile (probs on no.1)
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here's a thread on it's camera. i posted a comparison n4 vs one shot.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=41717762#post41717762
you can look at youtube vids to see how the one is ever so slightly faster in opening up browser and loading webpages. However, the nexus 4 is faster scrolling tapatalk and 8 tracks (one has jitters here).
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I owned the Nexus 4 since Nov. Now I have the One Developer. I can honestly say the
following:
PROS
1 - The One is noticeably faster
2 - Flash is there on stock browser
3 - GPS locks are lightning fast
4 - Screen is sharper, clearer, better color reproduction
5 - Camera is much better
6 - Battery life is better (after last update)
7 - Sound from speakers is incredible - blows away the Nexus
8 - Listening thru good headset the sound coming from the HTC again blows away the Nexus (Beats)
9 - 64 gb storage vs 16 max on the Nexus
10 - Voice quality on normal calls is crystal clear
11 - Build quality much better
CONS
1 - No wireless charging
2 - No Google Wallet
3 - Nexus 4 will always get the updates first
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tmobile 1.27 here. 1.29 is supposed to improve things like camera, and the capacitive buttons. Both phones stock. i've used my nexus 4 for ~12days and my one for 3 days so far on tmobile. If the camera was clearly better or I needed the wifi calling or LTE, it would be worth the $230 premium to me easily. If you ave the option of a subsidized phone, then I would buy an S4 > resell, then buy the phone you want.
with tmobile, I haven't needed wifi calling yet, data speeds are plenty fast without lte (and we don't have it yet). The camera difference discussed in more detail here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=41717762#post41717762
what's important nexus 4 vs one for me.
NEXUS 4 PROS
-noticeably faster in 8 tracks and tapatalk. (especially when scrolling, the one jitters a lot more) [turn taptalk posts/page to 50]
see discussion here. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=41719714#post41719714
update After enabling 2d gfx acceleration. The one is now a lot faster scrolling in 8 tracks. the N4 is slighly faster scroller in tapatalk. Giving the edge to ONE here now.
-camera is better outdoors. haven't done enough indoor testing to know yet.
-one gets hotter while using away from wifi
-less bezel, and much better screen to front face ratio. part of this is the physical buttons and front
speakers
-*major the n4 keyboard is much better. the one keyboard lags when switching to number mode and back. Also, during intensive applications the ONE keyboard lags even when typing letters. more noticeable when swyping. Swype on n4 is also better.
-the OS is more intuitive.
-power controls accessible from the the slide down menu.
-one has overly fragile camera cover plastic from reports here
-gallery app much better. I can share via gmail app and google plus directly and easily. on the one, you have to open up gmail app, then hit attach > find your folder.
-you can browse all your google cloud uploaded photoS on the gallery app.
-*minor n4 has google wallet (i use rarely)
-naked, the n4 is more comfortable in my hands.
BUTTONS
-htc one has physcial buttons, but the menu button is onscreen for much of the phone use. it's a waste of
screen space. the n4 has all on screen buttons. 100% on screen >> 40% on screen + 60% off screen buttons.
-at the botton of the front face, the htc has a speaker, capacitive buttons, and onscreen menu button. a
big chunk of space I consider not well spent. n4 has much less wasted space
-htc one capacitive buttons are less ergonomic for me to hit, because of this the phone feels less
ergonomic.
-on n4 screen buttons. I thought I would hate them, but I found out I love them.
*major visual feedback when a button is pressed. with the one, sometimes I miss the home button, and have
to press multiple times. (supposed to be improved with 1.29 update). this never happens with the n4.
every button lets you know when it's pressed. you know when you missed, and when the phone is just lagging.
*back, home, multitask, and menu buttons on in the same easy to find place.
*buttons change dynamically. if the back buttons minimizes the keyboard, it changes it's shape to be clear
It displays a menu button only when and if there is a menu option
ONE PROS
-*major screen has better colors,
-screen better clarity
-*major screen is brighter under auto bright
-*major battery life is supposed to be better, haven't had long enough to really evaluate
-*major 32gb vs 16gb on the n4 model. it's a major to me.
-IR remote is really cool. I don't know how much I'll use it though. Hopefully they come out with some 3rd party universal programmable remote software. If so, this will turn in to a *MAJOR.
-phone looks sleak, metal construction
-phone is louder, sounds better
-phone vibrate is very strong
-tmobile wifi calling + lte
-*major camera is better low light shooter, and quicker to focus
neutral
-the n4 is slightly wider screen aspect ratio. fits slightly more horizontal text reading. The one has more vertical space, more vertical text (at least when you don't have that pesky menu bar)
-gps locks plenty fast on both devices
-one phone feels denser
bob13bob said:
here's a thread on it's camera. i posted a comparison n4 vs one shot.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=41717762#post41717762
you can look at youtube vids to see how the one is ever so slightly faster in opening up browser and loading webpages. However, the nexus 4 is faster scrolling tapatalk and 8 tracks (one has jitters here).
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update After enabling 2d gfx acceleration. The one is now a lot faster scrolling in 8 tracks. the N4 is slighly faster scroller in tapatalk. Giving the edge to ONE here now.
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I was looking at two phones as my choices for my next phone. The S4 is my other choice and that one hasn't been revealed yet. Should I get this phone regardless of the S4 or should I look at the S4 to prevent buyer's remorse?
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I was looking at two phones as my choices for my next phone. The S4 is my other choice and that one hasn't been revealed yet. Should I get this phone regardless of the S4 or should I look at the S4 to prevent buyer's remorse?
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Honestly - I say wait.
Either way, we will know about the GS4 before the launch of the HTC One if I'm not mistaken.
As above, if you're not too sure, you're better off waiting for the s4 so you can test both out.
Also, please post any questions in Q&A from now on.
Depends. If you're like me who liked the HTC One on a design perspective then get it now. If you look on specs or features then better wait and decide.
I can make things Simplify its almost confirm that s4 will use 4.9 or 5" screen but dafinately never yet able to made phone using complete metal unibody Samsung is about 85% plastic, afaic I never pay premium price for plastic from now as off coz HTC increase the bar in terms of premium design I don't care at all if it look more or less similar that endless comparison will never end for me how I feel personally to it is more important
Another thing S4 will never have ultra pixel or similar innovation so quick as for now like on HTC one and duel speaker and irda remote and Zoe and complete unibody will surely differentiate HTC ONE from other
For me higher GHz, more mega pixel better benchmark larger screen, card slot or any type software which feature which can be easy to port across android devices and these things can't make phone better so even thought s4 equipped everything but not htc one's premium distinct feature like irda, metal body exact size, qulity cam, ois Zoe, duel and loudest sound
I see Z and One and withing 3 min I finalize on One coz Z got poor viewing angle slow interface, too big and can't take advantage of full 5 inch coz on screen is tricky to appear and dissolved some time and taking space
I suggest don't expect too high but suggest you 'ONE'
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I can make things Simplify its almost confirm that s4 will use 4.9 or 5" screen but dafinately never yet able to made phone using complete metal unibody Samsung is about 85% plastic, afaic I never pay premium price for plastic from now as off coz HTC increase the bar in terms of premium design I don't care at all if it look more or less similar that endless comparison will never end for me how I feel personally to it is more important
Another thing S4 will never have ultra pixel or similar innovation so quick as for now like on HTC one and duel speaker and irda remote and Zoe and complete unibody will surely differentiate HTC ONE from other
For me higher GHz, more mega pixel better benchmark larger screen, card slot or any type software which feature which can be easy to port across android devices and these things can't make phone better so even thought s4 equipped everything but not htc one's premium distinct feature like irda, metal body exact size, qulity cam, ois Zoe, duel and loudest sound
I see Z and One and withing 3 min I finalize on One coz Z got poor viewing angle slow interface, too big and can't take advantage of full 5 inch coz on screen is tricky to appear and dissolved some time and taking space
I suggest don't expect too high but suggest you 'ONE'
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1. Yes you're right. But samsung will be adding little aluminum on the sides of galaxy s4.
2. Samsung will indeed never have ultrapixel as that is copyrighted by HTC. Plus on my own preferences I would still prefer megapixels over this unless they balance this out. And also! Samsung was the first with the IR Remote so don't say that HTC was first. Even Xperia Z/ZL introduced them earlier than HTC.
3. Just to be fair enough with samsung. Samsung will have irda, S-Pen, multi window.
4. Z does not have poor viewing angles. It's pretty obvious you never seen it personally I could say it's only average but no not poor. And yeah the UI is not slow I didn't encounter any UI hiccups even just once when I was testing it.
And seriously? Too big? Mind you the Xperia Z is only less than 2millimeter bigger than HTC One. That's almost like as thick as the cloth/textile on your shirt.
I am not trying to go against you but I don't really like biased comments.
The Droid DNA does very well in reviews and benchmarks. Check out the YouTube videos about its reviews and benchmarks.
I have a Note 2 and it is also a good phone if you like to watch movies/shows on the go.
I understand this HTC One forum but I want to buy a new phone to replace my Galaxy Nexus, and I think many are considering the two devices and can't decide which one to go for. I only buy Nexus devices and now the Google Play Edition has come into picture running Vanilla Android. What would you recommend? Which one would you buy at the moment if you were in my shoes? Thanks in advance!
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I understand this HTC One forum but I want to buy a new phone to replace my Galaxy Nexus, and I think many are considering the two devices and can't decide which one to go for. I only buy Nexus devices and now the Google Play Edition has come into picture running Vanilla Android. What would you recommend? Which one would you buy at the moment if you were in my shoes? Thanks in advance!
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This should help you decide
Too bad the Nexus 5 does not have a premium build quality like the One.
In fact, imo, there is no other phone (other then iPhone 5(s)) that can compete in terms of build quality.
I like running GPE ROMs on my One, cause I like stock Android.
To me, stock Android and the premium feel of the One is pretty much perfect.
But stock/Vanilla Android will never run as fluent on the One, then on a Nexus device.
So if your choice is dependent on how the software will run, I'd say the Nexus 5.
If I compare my friend's Nexus 4 to my One, even the Nexus 4 is more fluent and faster, only the way stock Android runs that is.
Cause in terms of raw processing power, the Nexus 4 does not come close to the One ofcourse.
If you want the best of both, and dont mind the loss of a bit speed in terms of UI, I'd say the One GPE.
I'd pick the Nexus 5 though.
The money you save with it, is worth it aswell.
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Too bad the Nexus 5 does not have a premium build quality like the One.
In fact, imo, there is no other phone (other then iPhone 5(s)) that can compete in terms of build quality.
I like running GPE ROMs on my One, cause I like stock Android.
To me, stock Android and the premium feel of the One is pretty much perfect.
But stock/Vanilla Android will never run as fluent on the One, then on a Nexus device.
So if your choice is dependent on how the software will run, I'd say the Nexus 5.
If I compare my friend's Nexus 4 to my One, even the Nexus 4 is more fluent and faster, only the way stock Android runs that is.
Cause in terms of raw processing power, the Nexus 4 does not come close to the One ofcourse.
If you want the best of both, and dont mind the loss of a bit speed in terms of UI, I'd say the One GPE.
I'd pick the Nexus 5 though.
The money you save with it, is worth it aswell.
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I too would go for Nexus. What it loses in build, it more makes up more than enough in price and support.
So, if you are gonna buy nexus, i would recommend you to watch this video to decide whether to go for black or white http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBCaAq_pKjY
There are structural and build differences
Go with the nexus. I had nexus 4 but took my brothers one and he ordered the 5. The phone is amazing. I love the bigger/wider screen even though it has on screen buttons. I actually miss the onscreen button layout from my nexus 4. In terms of fluidity both phones are very fast but comparing stock vanilla Roms, nexus will always be better because of sense framework on the gpe. Nexus 5 also has the newest processor so it's more futureproof i suppose in that sense. And even if its by a couple weeks, Nexus gets updated first if that makes a difference to you. Development will also be better on nexus, I'd get it just for Franco kernel and touch control lol. I didn't test his phone out a whole lot but camera is on par with HTC one. I only took pictures in my basement and preferred the nexus over HTC. The true HDR+ feature works wonders.
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I love the bigger/wider screen even though it has on screen buttons. I actually miss the onscreen button layout from my nexus 4.
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waste of space, you loose a portion of the screen for nothing, One with the soft button is better.
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nexus will always be better because of sense framework on the gpe
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wrong, 4.2.2 GPE had a sense base framework, with the 4.3 it's completly removed and stock so will be the 4.4
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Nexus 5 also has the newest processor so it's more futureproof i suppose in that sense.
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i think is overrated have 4x 2.3ghz cpu instead of a 4x 1.7, you can run everything even on a snapdragon 400.. the 800 is better ofc but an upgrade from the 600 is pointless.
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Nexus gets updated first if that makes a difference to you.
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two week difference is also not a good excuse to choose the N5 over the M7 GPE.
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I didn't test his phone out a whole lot but camera is on par with HTC one. I only took pictures in my basement and preferred the nexus over HTC.
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all major sites (android police, android autority, anand, theverge, ecc) and the best youtubers says that the 8mpx camera on the N5 is pretty crap, not hardware site but software site, like postprocessing and all that stuff and a major upgrade is waited to fix poor quality video/photo.
reviewers says also that the stock sound on the N5 is low (like the Galaxy Nexus problem) but could be fixed using custom roms/kernels.. i mean the loudspeaker and not music like but ringtones, Google wtf are you doing? Build quality is medium, back cover is nice touchy.. and the camera gap si a bad choice also.
M7 has a better build quality overall, will have the same os with the GPE conversion and OTA (~15 days), better sound (a lot better), screen is a full 1080p with external buttons, you could switch to Sense if needed.
the only thing i wish i could have on the M7 converted is the amoled display with the Moto X active notification, that would be fantastic.
PRO for the N5? the price.
oh yes, the always listening feature: only works on EN-US, and extra US Google Now is pretty useless atm.
ps: in my country M7 could be found starting from 430€ new, the N5 is 350€ from Play Store.. no kidding.
Your preference of capacitive buttons is pure opinion you can't say which will be better for him. I liked it because it's faster navigation ( no holding down home for Google now, menu or recents). Plus I used 180 flip on nexus 4 and my buttons would always be on the bottom. Also, I didn't know 4.3 removed sense framework but how is beats working? I didn't really test camera that much just took a few snaps and I read the Engadget review and they said it had better snaps than HTC one in some situations (not always obviously). Wheni talked about the camera I meant my personal preference I'm not a photography expert. The htc one increases light exposure hence better night pics but from what I've seen in the time I have used it is light from different sources gets distorted. For example, in the basement the picture came out good but light from the TV was too bright and from the light bulbs too and this created distortion in that area only. With the nexus I was still able to pick up the same quality image but without the distortion on the TV screen and around the light bulbs. Build quality I agree HTC is better but heavier depends on preference again. The plastic isn't that bad it has a good feel to the back and doesn't squeak like most galaxy phones. I didnt test external speakers/sound output but nexus 4 was poor so i hope they would've learbed from it. Although faux and Franco kernels fixed any problems I had so the same can be done with nexus 5. Again, you can't just write off the processor as no big deal. It is a step up and should be considered especially since the newer hardware is cheaper than the old. And he's not upgrading from a 600 he's choosing betweens phones that have 600 and 800. All depends on what he needs in a phone.
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Your preference of capacitive buttons is pure opinion you can't say which will be better for him. I liked it because it's faster navigation ( no holding down home for Google now, menu or recents). Plus I used 180 flip on nexus 4 and my buttons would always be on the bottom. Also, I didn't know 4.3 removed sense framework but how is beats working? I didn't really test camera that much just took a few snaps and I read the Engadget review and they said it had better snaps than HTC one in some situations (not always obviously). Wheni talked about the camera I meant my personal preference I'm not a photography expert. The htc one increases light exposure hence better night pics but from what I've seen in the time I have used it is light from different sources gets distorted. For example, in the basement the picture came out good but light from the TV was too bright and from the light bulbs too and this created distortion in that area only. With the nexus I was still able to pick up the same quality image but without the distortion on the TV screen and around the light bulbs. Build quality I agree HTC is better but heavier depends on preference again. The plastic isn't that bad it has a good feel to the back and doesn't squeak like most galaxy phones. I didnt test external speakers/sound output but nexus 4 was poor so i hope they would've learbed from it. Although faux and Franco kernels fixed any problems I had so the same can be done with nexus 5. Again, you can't just write off the processor as no big deal. It is a step up and should be considered especially since the newer hardware is cheaper than the old. And he's not upgrading from a 600 he's choosing betweens phones that have 600 and 800. All depends on what he needs in a phone.
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Someone blames HTC for not having navbar on the One, i would never understand this.. ok it's my opinion, like what i'm thinking about the navbar on tablets, but it's another story.
Camera on N5 will probably fixed with a better postprocessing engine, not that big deal, but sound is really an issue.. and kernels are not an excuse because a lot of people just stay on Stock Rom and maybe just root/busybox, they will never loose time or have the knowledge to flash a deodexed modded cooked rom with custom kernel to improve something that should just work fine out of the box.. want to talk about the sound volume problem on the Galaxy Nexus? or the really poor wifi and the C8 bug? and what about the Nexus 4? with the loudspeaker inudible when it's on a flat surface? they fixed with a new phisical revision.. and the washed color screen? only fix is over kernel with colour control.
Talking about the CPU/GPU ofc it's an upgrade from snap600 to 800, but it's worth? only for the geek i would say, speed is blazing fast for both of them and the only benefit could be on battery usage, maybe 800 is better but who knows? ony the Note3 and the HTC One Max have the 800 version and they have both totally different battery capacity and different OS (touchwiz and sense) so cannot be comparable, soon we will see.. gaming side they are both excelent.. you can play Battlefield at the same level with an i5 or an i7, with a titan or a 780, bigger number is not always better perfomarce.
the N5 will have other problems like all phones have, M7 is not perfect (build gap in some early ships, pink camera issues) but let's compare: they have the same screen resolution, the same dimension, the same android official version (soon), none of them has removal battery, none has sdcard expansion, both have LTE.. 32gb M7 is 430€ here, 32gb N5 is 399€..
imho m7 wins.
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I was debating and then I was like "what was I thinking" though the camera is mediocre, and speakers are Ok, everything else is fantastic.
I was going to wait for the HTC one2, and realized that more than likely no other phone soon will be able to last as long as the z1 with their battery saving software.
to be honest with you, as much as I complain about my Z1, overall there isnt one device out there for me that tops it. Just hope that the new update will do something to the Camera and 4K vid recording is something I really really wanted, but not enough to move be back to Samsung.
I have Z1, SGS4 and used the nexus 5 for a day and a half, I will compare them below
Nexus 5 best performance but lack features
SGS4 worst performance (too much lag and stuttering) but has lots of features (most of which are useless and no-one actually uses them except to show off)
Z1 excellent performance (almost identical to the nexus 5) and has some useful features like camera apps, small apps ...etc
Although the Z1 is not perfect (nothing is perfect), but it is the best overall phone out there. I will get chance to play with the HTC ONE for few days in a week or two then I will probably be able to say what is the best phone currently available (apart from the LG G2 which I haven't had the chance to play with).
Not even considered it, got it sim free and I'm happy with it
I returned mine because I spotted a dead (or maybe stuck) pixel on the screen. I hope I'll have better luck next time.
I am very very disappointed in the camera, the speaker is actually close to top considering its a tiny waterproof speaker but I love every thing else about the Z1 so no, I didn't return my device and I wont be doing so.
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to be honest with you, as much as I complain about my Z1, overall there isnt one device out there for me that tops it. Just hope that the new update will do something to the Camera and 4K vid recording is something I really really wanted, but not enough to move be back to Samsung.
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I'm interested in knowing why since I was thinking about getting the Note 3.
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I'm interested in knowing why since I was thinking about getting the Note 3.
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Actually I had the Note 3, it is the worst mistake that I made up until now!
now the problems I had with it are more philosophical than fair, so to make it fair I'll only point out the problems that "others" consider worthy!
1. Not so great looking even though its an improvement over the S4 and Note 2
2. Has A LOT of bloat ware
3. Cheap looking/feeling device (like all Samsungs)
4. Depending on what you do with it scales form lagging a couple of times a day to constantly lagging (I couldn't handle the lag so...)
5. Bigger than most people would want it to be (I actually where okay with it mainly because I didn't called anyone with it)
6. You would look Very-Very stupid talking with it on the street or anywhere else for that matter!
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I'm interested in knowing why since I was thinking about getting the Note 3.
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mostly personally preference but Im coming from a S3 owner, but here are some of the reasons
-touchwiz, hate it with a passion, actually got to play with a real note 3 today at the store and it actually still lag a little bit like seriously lol?! Checked the ram consumption it always over 1.2+ gigs after I clear everything it goes back up quickly no wonder why they keep added more rams for all the galaxy phones. My Z1 has to be on for a couple of weeks to hit over 1 gig and generally around 0.9.
-hate OLED colors, it has gotten a lot better with the pentile problem but still not enough to bring me back. Triluminos looks better to me straight on even if you have to sacrifice the wash out colors in extreme angles which I never look at my phone that way. Plus I see color shifting problems on Note 3, like yellow would turn green in a angle, so viewing angle is not a clear victory on the note 3 neither (same with Nexus 5 and G2 which have their own problems in extreme angle when I played with them today). Didn't get to do out door test with the note 3 not sure if it become unreadable under the sun.
-Built quality, I dont think I need to say much here, just personally when I pay hundreds of dollars for a flashship device I want it to actually feel like a flagship device.
the only features in the Note 3 that I want in the Z1 is the 4K video recording, downsampling 4K video to play on 1080p screen is a huge difference. You don't need a 4K display to take advantage of it. I used to think that the multi screen features from note2 and S3 is going to make me happy with my S3 again, but after the update came out I've never use it once.... Its all personal preference so those my not apply to others.
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I have Z1, SGS4 and used the nexus 5 for a day and a half, I will compare them below
Nexus 5 best performance but lack features
SGS4 worst performance (too much lag and stuttering) but has lots of features (most of which are useless and no-one actually uses them except to show off)
Z1 excellent performance (almost identical to the nexus 5) and has some useful features like camera apps, small apps ...etc
Although the Z1 is not perfect (nothing is perfect), but it is the best overall phone out there. I will get chance to play with the HTC ONE for few days in a week or two then I will probably be able to say what is the best phone currently available (apart from the LG G2 which I haven't had the chance to play with).
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I'm coming from Note 2, Galaxy s4 and HTC one to Sony Z1, apart from note 2 (which I liked) the other's are disappointing s4 has lag and loads of stupid features you turn off, HTC One was boring and battery life was rubbish plus I was scared to scrape or dent the metal (best sound though) . I was wanting Note 3 but too expensive and cant believe it still has lag, plus Knox! (which totally put me off s4)
Sony Z1 feels premium has a decent enough camera and battery is probably the best with the note 2 I've had.
Before I had Z1 I was waiting for Nexus 5 and was going to sell s4, but after seeing it, Z1 is much better.
Thank you all guys you opened (again) my eyes. There are just few things that make me sad about the Z1.
- camera is not so fantastic. Unless you have the stone hand just pressing the hw button from focus to shoot makes the phone shaking and the picture a little blurry. This is almost not noticeable with high lights but as soon start to be a little darker things gets worse. Thus in low lights this camera is totally incapable to take decent pictures, what you see 'good' in your screen will be post processed and 'destroyed'. No manual mode could help ATM.
- freaking hardware buttons
I can't believe that my 5" real estate triluminus 400+ DPI 1080 **** should have a damn waste of space: soft keys IMHO are the android cancer. Now I'm using a pie (after gtm) it's okay but still annoying and uncomfortable. I'll be happy to pay one dollar more and have at least a central hw button. Note that I compared twitter, Google+ and Chrome with the iPhone and on the smaller 4" there is much more space!!! This piss me off!!!!
- unlock the boot loader. I used to pay the retail price in order to not increase the US mafia of carriers. After more than a month this phone isn't really unlockable. No official words from Sony about the fact they are working for a fix or a date. This scares me.
- 2013 and our display is not oleophobic. This makes me sad even more when a friend tell me: cool phone can I see it? And my screen is a finger print fest. Tried almost any good screen protector antifinger print. None of them really works without decrease the screen quality.
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Just one tip.
Don't compare N5 and Z1 now.
Wait until Z1 gets 4.4 then you'll see what Z1 is capable to do.
As I said few times, it's better to have great camera (hardware) which is fixable than great software without hardware support.
Z1 has great camera and with 4.4 update we will have the best device money can buy...
Everyone compares N5 and Z1 now and all of them are unique in conclusion - these two devices are similar but remember we are comparing 4.2.2 with 4.4 - so you can just imagine Z1 with a KitKat under the hood
It will fly
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...amazing hardware! I got my N5 a couple of days ago (bought at launch hour, used comGateway to forward it to India, takes time ) and so far I've been playing with it non-stop (have a few exams prep leaves ), and here are my impressions so far.
My background: I'm a huge Nexus fanboy, I own (or have owned) every Nexus device with the exception of Nexus Q and currently possess fully working Galaxy Nexus (16GB), Nexus 4 (16GB), Nexus 7 (2012, 16GB) and Nexus 7 (2013, 32GB) all bought more or less at launch along with a Galaxy Note and Galaxy S2. My device before was my N4 bought at launch and it was great, but I can't simply skip my temptation to get the new N5, so I did. I don't care about the price, I can very well afford a phone far more expensive. I buy Nexus devices because I love the pure stock experience they bring, it just somehow feels better to me.
Note: I've been using N4 exclusively before this for almost a year, so all my views are in relation to it.
My device: White Nexus 5, 32GB. Pure stock with an unlocked bootloader and rooted.
The Good:
Bigger, better screen! The screen is taller without being (much) wider, and it's gorgeous! I know some people are saying colours are washed out etc, but that's just the IPS display which I'm used to, plus when colour control gets modded into kernels that won't be much of a problem. It's a lot sharper than my N4 and definitely brighter]
Performance! It has the highest binned Snapdragon 800! Need I say more? It can smoke anything out their
Storage is a welcome improvement, sometimes I had to choose between games on my N4 but with double the storage I don't have that problem (atleast for a while )
Camera is a lot more improved than the one on N4, I haven't tested it too thoroughly but it's definitely improved especially in low light conditions
KitKat and GEL are a welcome change, I like the subtle UI improvements and I love the fact that BT audio and software audio levels are not two different things anymore, that used to drive me crazy
I love the white version's looks and build, I was torn what to get when purchasing this from the Play Store but decided to go with the white since it's different. The speaker grill adds a really nice touch IMO and back has a good feel to it. Personally I'd prefer a little more build, but with the ceramic sides and everything it's nice, definitely not cheap.
The Okay:
Battery life, meh. This was expected, it's slightly better than N4's but still not great. On my first run I was able to get out about 2 hours of SOT with 1 hour of GPS, 1 hour of audio over BT, and a lot of updating/downloading games. So that's not bad, N4 lasted me a day and I don't see N5 doing any worse, if anything it'll do better when I switch to custom kernels
Speaker is an improvement but nothing great
The Ugly:
Camera shutter lag, I absolutely hate this. Maybe I'm crazy or something but I hate that it takes a lot of time to click pictures, with the chance of entirely blurring out the picture when given to someone else. Hopefully something improves this
No always on listening , I was hoping for this feature from Moto X
TL;DR: Get the freaking device. It's awesome. And get it in white, seriously.
Lmao you got me with the thread title.
Very clever! Good thread!
Google should make a COMPLETELY new camera app, and upload it to the Play Store for everyone to enjoy. And they should do that quickly. Current camera app is terrible! (The shutter lag it because of the software, not the hardware)
Can 3rd party camera apps help or is this only a google issue?
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I see what you did there.
I'd get it, if it wasn't sold out EVERYWHERE in Belgium, Netherlands, and Germany.
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I'd get it, if it wasn't sold out EVERYWHERE in Belgium, Netherlands, and Germany.
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See, that's why you stay awake till midnight of your country's time to place an order in US the moment it launches so that you can import it to your country
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Your thread title will surely gather greater intra-xda SEO. (Bringing more and more members confused by the title of the thread).
Please get it changed.
I agree.. Amazing phone! I came from a n4 and HTC one.. I just wish there was better speakers on this device. My one spoiled me!
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Your thread title will surely gather greater intra-xda SEO. (Bringing more and more members confused by the title of the thread).
Please get it changed.
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I don't see why that is a bad thing?
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you Win..
the game!!
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Can 3rd party camera apps help or is this only a google issue?
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Yes! Just found this last night and played around with it:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.spritefish.fastburstcameralite
The quality is a little less than the regular camera, but there is zero shutter lag. The paid version is $2 and it allows you to tap focus and take nicer pictures when you want to. Will still need the standard camera for HDR+ mode (which takes excellent shots that this can't touch).
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I hate you so much...
:crying::crying::crying:
Nexus 5 is the best smartphone I ever had but there are some things I don't like in it.
Cons:
1. Battery life is the first one. Switching from Note II to the Nexus 5 (thanks to Mike) really made a difference on the battery life.
2. Camera app is so slow and needs a lot of improvements. (Google is working on it)
3. This one is very minor but i will say it, are the glossy bezel on the white variant. I would prefer it to be just like on the black one.
Pros:
1. FAST, I mean really fast
2. Great support here on XDA :good:
3. Other then those 3 cons love this phone!
So guys and girls, what do you love/hate about your Nexus 5?
Cons:
Dust / dirt gets trapped around the bezel
Nexus X on back not coloured in
Pros:
Fast
Great battery life
Good multitasking
Nice feel
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It gets amazing battery life for only being 2300. I'm getting around 5 hours heavy usage but I don't use syncing and I have strong lte and WiFi wherever I go.
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It gets amazing battery life for only being 2300. I'm getting around 5 hours heavy usage but I don't use syncing and I have strong lte and WiFi wherever I go.
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Most of the time I use 3G and I had never reached 4 hours SOT....sync OFF and manual screen brightness around 15-25%.
rootSU said:
Cons:
Dust / dirt gets trapped around the bezel
Nexus X on back not coloured in
Pros:
Fast
Great battery life
Good multitasking
Nice feel
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Was gonna mention that exact thing it's soo damn annoying! ><
on my galaxy nexus if i erased by factory reset i still have my things on my internal storage ...i just found out (the Hard Way) that it is not the same on the nexus 5 when you do a factory reset on this bad boy it takes EVERTHING off .....but other than that the phone is great love it and glad to have one.......
Same as the guy above me, I had GNex and whenever I factory cleared it, the photos would stay on. Not so with Nexus 5, other then that it's an amazing device.
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My two biggest complaints are the godawful screen and terrible speaker placement. If it had a better screen, I'd probably actually use it, but it's been pretty much collecting dust since I got it. Already filed an RMA with Google, I have to send it back by tomorrow if I'm going to, but I'm still undecided on what I'm going to do.
****ty camera and power/volume buttons directly opposite each other so I'm constantly changing the volume whenever I try to power on the screen
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Love the screen
Love the GPS accuracy and speed
Love the speed and snappy feel of the phone
Love "Ok Google"
Like the battery
Like the build quality and overall asthetics
Sorta like the camera
Wish the speaker was a little louder
I could have bought a mint condition GS4 for less than what I paid for this phone. I feel like I made the right choice.
Pluses:
- Speed
- fluidity (the most fluid android device)
- Amazing display
- Great design
- Kitkat with Google launcher experience
Minuses:
- speaker
In between:
- Battery life is decent
- Camera is good enough
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The only thing I wish is if they could have cut down the bottom bezel and lower the over all foot print its not to big for me I just love the way the moto x feels
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Have all the same pros as everyone else. My only con has been getting used to the earpiece, I seem to hunt for it almost every time I get a call.
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Pros:
Nexus, so easy root and lots of devs
Fast
Thin
Looks good
Good battery life
Beautiful display
Light
KitKat
Small bezel
Con's:
Recents button is laggy on dalvik
Glossy sides on white
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I really love:
* the snapdrangon 800
* screen SIZE
* design
* call quality
* finally LTE!!!!!!!
* new Google now/ "OK Google"
I dislike:
# the screen quality
# speaker placement and quality
# camera
Overall its a great device. And for the unlocked price its unbeatable by anything else on the market... Except maybe motoG???:what:
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Came from a Galaxy Note 2 and not looking back.
Pros
Beautiful screen
KitKat
Decent battery life
Developer support
Wireless charging out the box
Unlocked phone
Cons
No micro SD
Speakers
Slow camera (pics aren't that bad)
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Love the screen
Love the GPS accuracy and speed
Love the speed and snappy feel of the phone
Love "Ok Google"
Like the battery
Like the build quality and overall asthetics
Sorta like the camera
Wish the speaker was a little louder
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Agreed with you exactly. so I decided to just quote you. The speaker was expected to be worse than my HTC One, but I did expect it to be as good as a Samsung speaker.. My Wife's Note 2 is amazing, even though it is rear mounted. The speaker for the N5 seems limited.. I am not confident that any software update will make any dramatic improvements. For watching news clips or youtube, it'll do. But, it does seem cheap and dull.
After settling in, I like the fact that it is lighter and has a larger screen in roughly the same size as the One. Besides the speaker quality, which I can handle, I do not regret the change.
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I get about ~30 hours with light usage for a few calls and checking news and few short videos on youtube. My signal is not the best when at work.. and it seems to make it worse to go back and forth from LTE to 3g alot.
I use an app that has worked well in my past devices called 2x battery. Does anyone else use battery mgnt apps? Is it better to leave KitKat alone and do apps like 2x battery only provide a placebo effect?
No Imessage.
Bad camera.
Twitter app feels weird.
No emoji support on native keyboard.
Everything else is amazing
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@Shark_On_Land iMessage is so glitchy anyways, I'm always shocked when iFans try to brag about it. As for Twitter, take that up with them, that's not Android's fault. I am, however, assuming you came from an iPhone, so welcome to the bright side of the world
Otherwise, I can concur with the dust being annoying. I have the Spigen Slim Armor and every time I take it off I have to clean the dust out.
My only other question for @frarredo and @_MetalHead_ is how can you possibly complain about the screen quality? At 445 ppi and full 1080p I don't think you're even allowed to do that...
Really, really dislike the horrible battery life.
That is all.
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