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Hi,
I've tried searching the forums but couldn't find an answer to my problem - and that is, whenever i receive an email (i've setup my gmail account), and the phone is on standby mode, the phone fails to wake up to notify me (and only does so once i turn the phone back on). So is there any way for my gmail emails to get pushed into my inbox, rather than having to refresh? There is no issue with the similar SMS problem, though.
Any recommendations guys? Any help would be great!
Same here...
Would really like to see the solution!
what rom are you using with this issue?
My Diamond has hardly ever notified me of new retrieved pulled emails till I wake it up and see it connected, it works one in whilte.
The rom...
Standard UK Orange rom for me...
Standard O2 ROM for me (1.93)
anyone...?
have you set your alerts in sounds->advanced? maybe try to add vibrate as well as alert.
emails are stored server-side and not sent to your phone. You get them by asking the server. Since wifi and applications are disabled during sleep mode, no, this won't work.
It is however possible if you pay for a push-mail provider. But regular pop/smtp won't do the trick. (or a cooked rom which is capable of reactivating wifi while on sleep and triggering the server once in a while (I doubt anyone could do this, it is actually possible, but probably not due to the hardware restrictions we have), but hey, this would cost you a lot of money, even if you don't receive any mails).
edit: after a little search, there is apparently some free mail provider that seem to provide free push-mail, including hotmail. Search free push mail on google.
Using Advanced Config 3.2 you can enable Wi-Fi while in Standby mode....
you need to reg edit the following two items:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Power\Timeouts]
"BattResumingSuspendTimeout"=1
"ACResumingSuspendTimeout"=1
by default they are set to 1 on my dimond. i think 1 represents the time an app is allowed to try to start during sleep. one for when on battery and one for when on charger. i changed mine to 15 and now i get evey email notification even while the phone is sleeping. give it a try and let me know your results.
This would drain the battery like hell
Scotchy49 said:
This would drain the battery like hell
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i have done this on my phone and it has had no noticeable effect on battery life. my touch had these reg edits set at 15 from stock. i guess i should point out i am using the CDMA version of these phones.
O2 forwards all my Emails to my Diamond via MMS.
Most of the time it did NOT receive those MMS until i woke it up from standby (pushing the button on top to turn on the display). Then a load of MMS came to my inbox.
So i set both values on my Diamond to 15 and it looks like it helped this problem.
NOW the MMSs come in even with Diamond in standby (just like i was used to from my HTC Wizard).
And i can NOT see any big difference in battery life after one week of testing those values.
Hi Silence69
I agree with Blazeitup123 you should go to settings - all settings - personal - sounds & notificatios - notifications - event then & set a new email notification (alert).
I have a standard rom & have set my email to be checked every 30 minutes & notify me of new emails with an alert. Ok the screen does not light up but if I am not near it to hear the alert the phone will of gone back to 'standby mode' anyway.
Hope this helps.
silence69 said:
Hi,
I've tried searching the forums but couldn't find an answer to my problem - and that is, whenever i receive an email (i've setup my gmail account), and the phone is on standby mode, the phone fails to wake up to notify me (and only does so once i turn the phone back on). So is there any way for my gmail emails to get pushed into my inbox, rather than having to refresh? There is no issue with the similar SMS problem, though.
Any recommendations guys? Any help would be great!
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Hi ,
i have had the same problem.
after a lot of search i found the problem
i installed touch commander. i dont know why but it created a conflict
now i unstalled touch commander en my diamond give me the alert whem there is new mail.
good luck
ps when you havent instal touch commander....
hard reset your device then setup you mail acount and test it.
when it works good test it after each new installed program
Sietse from the netherlands
captspaulding1000 said:
you need to reg edit the following two items:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Power\Timeouts]
"BattResumingSuspendTimeout"=1
"ACResumingSuspendTimeout"=1
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Hello!
I can confirm the problem and solution. My mails are fetched from gmail by an umts connection. It takes about 12 seconds when I start a manual Send/Receive until the mails are fetched. If I set the values below 10 I never get my mails since the diamond suspends to early.
Also I have noticed that when the vales are to low I sometimes get just the flashing ring. Apparently it takes another 2-3 seconds to start the audible alert and vibration.
These timeout values are used to terminate background processing which for example is required for mail fetching. If your diamond does not fetch mails when suspended or does not give you an audible notification try to increase the values. Currently I use 20 seconds.
hope this helps
Any news ?
trying this tonight
This works perfectly and solved this issue on my device, thanks.
Just a thankyou to gmvmg/captspaulding1000 as this has solved the exact same problem!
OK I've had this issue for a little while since trying non-stock firmware but it seems really inconsistent. The issue seems to be network related but that's my basic diagnosis. The problem is that I seem to only get notifications if I wake the phone up to check manually.
The best example of this is using any Twitter application where I have it set to check every 15 minutes and it seems like half the time that works fine and notifications come through fine. The rest of the time, something that that happened not long ago too, I looked at my phone and nothing there. I opened Twitter app (I Tweet in this case), refreshed and messages from an hour or more ago popped up.
There's a similar issue I've had where notifications would be there but I wouldn't get the sound notification unless I wake the phone up where they'd be waiting for me. I put that down to using the Hero ROM though.
I thought it might be down to using the Hero ROM but now with Cyanogen's 3.8.9.1 the same thing happened. It's a big issue to me but I don't see anyone else having it. Any thoughts? The only thought I had on it is a data connection issue where nothing is pulled in regardless of settings unless I manually witness / do it. Halp
Damn, i thought i was the only one. I guess not, funny thing is im on JF V 1.51 ADP with HTC Hero theme V1.3.5. Same thing with me, sometimes the texts and other notifications come through fine...other times, i wont get nothing for hours and be like wtf, ill manually unlock my phone and as soon as i touch the button my phone starts vibratin, ringtones go off, a million pop ups and my phone goes nuts. I thought it was just me but i guess not, i wonder what this could be? Maybe its a specific something, lets see what we have in common...
Phone: Black T-Mobile G1
ROM: JF's ADP V1.51 Cupcake
Theme: HTC Hero V1.3.5
Text Messaging Apps: SMS Popup, ChompSMS
Facebook App: Bloo
Also, i have to re-do my email always after awhile because at first it will be fine and ill get the email notifications fine but then after a day or two it always stops working and i have to go through settings, into applications, then to email and delete cache/data. Go back into Email, re type my email, password and everything and then it just starts all over.
Little stupid ish like this is drivin me nuts.
Oh thank gawd.. at least we know that we're not going insane and imagining it! Unfortunately I don't see anything on the phone we have in common other than both ROMs being based on 1.51
Phone: Black T-Mobile G1 (UK)
ROM: Cyanogen 3.8.9.1
Theme: Running Open Home
Text Messaging Apps: None currently
Facebook: Spawn of the debil! Don't use it
I don't use e-mail other than GMail on my phone right now and that works fine as far as I can tell but I get so few e-mails I can't say for sure.
This is a known bug with Android, started before Cupcake. Reboot usually will fix it for a while, I usually reboot my phone once a week or so.
Anyone else find the official Twitter client slow to update ? Sometimes I just give up and switch it off, the iPhone on the other hand pulls updates instantly so I'm not sure what's going on here. The HD7 in general seems to have network issues in general
Ian
konnexion said:
Anyone else find the official Twitter client slow to update ? Sometimes I just give up and switch it off, the iPhone on the other hand pulls updates instantly so I'm not sure what's going on here. The HD7 in general seems to have network issues in general
Ian
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yea same with facebook..takes some time to update.. id like to try the focus on att.. tmo slow
I'm assuming both of these apps, as well as others, will release updates to improve their experiences...it has nothing to do with the network, as both apps are slow over wifi as well...they just aren't optimized yet...
its a general problem with most apps, and something i hope they fix very very soon. The fact that the apps cant freeze there state when you leave (i.e mobile 'multitasking') it makes them almost useless. If you exit to answer a text for example, you're forced to wait a minute or 2 to reload the entire app.
Updates will trickle down eventually, remember the OS is less than a month old. *Officially
Whats it like on WIFI? i was getting annoyed at mine being a bit slow and gave up on the facebook app and since then I change networks from O2 to Three (didnt realise just how **** O2s reception was till I moved to three!) and they are nice and quick at updating now.
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its a general problem with most apps, and something i hope they fix very very soon. The fact that the apps cant freeze there state when you leave (i.e mobile 'multitasking') it makes them almost useless. If you exit to answer a text for example, you're forced to wait a minute or 2 to reload the entire app.
Updates will trickle down eventually, remember the OS is less than a month old. *Officially
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not quite true. You could press the windows key from within the twitter app. Start the messaging app and do what you need to do. When done hit the back key until you are back in twitter with the state restored. Its not that fast and not really intuitive but its there.
Hi everyone,
I have had the Moto G 2nd Gen for about 10 days now and I have noticed that notifications from several apps (Exchange email, Gmail, Whatspp, Facebook...) are either delayed by a few hours or don't come at all. This happens on both Wifi or my network. Has anyone else experienced this ?
I have tried the following with no success:
1- disable Wifi optimization
2- factory reset phone
3- Installed PNF No-Root and set hearbeat to 5min
4- Cleared data & cache of apps
My phone is not rooted running 4.4.4
Thanks
Yes I am having the same problem this is my thread on the subject:http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g-2014/help/notification-problems-t2875216
I have tried 1, 2 and 4 of your attempts to fix it to no avail.
Before I reset the phone all notifications showed the correct time that they should have come, for example if I slept the phone at 10:40 and a notification came at 10:44, I then woke the phone at 10:50 the phone would immediately buzz and sound but it would say the notification came at 10:44 in the notification draw.
However after the factory reset of the device in the same situation the notification draw would show 10:50 but I know that is wrong because WhatsApp for instance will say the correct 10:44 timestamp on the message in the app.
Notifications when the phone is awake come through perfectly every time.
The problem is actually not limited to just notifications, I play music from my phone, when the the phone is awake it plays perfectly, when you sleep the phone, the music will carry on playing but occasionally it will have a hiccup where it will stop playing for a split second then carry on, and sometimes at the end of a song you expect the next song to start but it never will, if you then wake the device the song will start playing like nothing was wrong (exactly how the notification problem is).
I don't know what the problem is I suspect something to do with bad software or faulty hardware if there is a specific part of the hardware that only comes into play when sleeping (I don't know if there is or not).
What are the specifics of your phone? Mine is a XT1068 8GB Dual SIM Retail GB completely stock 4.4.4, the system version is: 21.11.14.titan_retgb.retbgall.en.GB retgb, will be good to know if this affects specific versions of the phone or any version, to narrow down the problem.
The problem is also completely random I cannot 'make' the problem happen it just does.
Mine is the same as yours XT1068 8GB Dual SIM Retail GB 21.11.14.titan_retgb.retbgall.en.GB retgb.
I also have the same problem with music, I also noticed this with chromecast, it seems to loose connection after playing one track.
I contacted Motorola assist and they said replace the phone. I'm not sure if replacing it will solve the problem, I'm guessing this is a software issue. I
I got it from Amazon UK, I'm thinking of returning this and going back to my Galaxy Nexus and wait for the new Nexus phone.
Because we have the same software version I more strongly suspect this is a software issue now, I'm not sure what to do, I don't really want to return the phone as I will be left phoneless and a replacement would just come with the same software.
Another option would be to re flash to a different software version (an international version) but that will invalidate the warranty.
Not really sure what to do, would be good hearing if any retGB people are not having any problems, if any are reading this thread? or if any non retGB are having this problem.
jay2the1 said:
Yes I am having the same problem this is my thread on the subject:http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g-2014/help/notification-problems-t2875216
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The problem is actually not limited to just notifications, I play music from my phone, when the the phone is awake it plays perfectly, when you sleep the phone, the music will carry on playing but occasionally it will have a hiccup where it will stop playing for a split second then carry on, and sometimes at the end of a song you expect the next song to start but it never will, if you then wake the device the song will start playing like nothing was wrong (exactly how the notification problem is).
I don't know what the problem is I suspect something to do with bad software or faulty hardware if there is a specific part of the hardware that only comes into play when sleeping (I don't know if there is or not).
What are the specifics of your phone? Mine is a XT1068 8GB Dual SIM Retail GB completely stock 4.4.4, the system version is: 21.11.14.titan_retgb.retbgall.en.GB retgb, will be good to know if this affects specific versions of the phone or any version, to narrow down the problem.
The problem is also completely random I cannot 'make' the problem happen it just does.
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For notification problem read description of https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.andqlimax.pushfixer.noroot&hl=en
and yes I also have same problem for play music my phone is XT1068 16gb retaildsdsall.en.03.retin
I think you should create new thread for play music problem, seems like we all have that
bhavin192 said:
For notification problem read description of https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.andqlimax.pushfixer.noroot&hl=en
and yes I also have same problem for play music my phone is XT1068 16gb retaildsdsall.en.03.retin
I think you should create new thread for play music problem, seems like we all have that
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:\ it doesn't look like that app fixes it even when changing the interval to 1min.
I've sort of found a way to at least make it happen to test stuff, using 2 devices I have installed Telegram on both and set each device up with different numbers so I can message from one device to the other, using the other device to the Moto G if I send messages sometimes the notification is instant, sometimes it is a minute later, there is no pattern on whether it will receive it instantly or delayed, however waking the device will always make the phone buzz if it is delayed.
If I add my tablet into the mix (tablet and Moto G on the same number) the difference is very stark, sending 5 quick fire messages the tablet buzzes for every message, the Moto G may buzz for the first and maybe the 2nd but then nothing for the other 3, or none at all, or none and then double beep on the last message or a little time after the last message. (all this is on WiFi)
The best news is that it has eventually beeped within a couple of minutes for every message, but in a conversation on WhatsApp a couple of minutes is a long time.
Again if the phone is awake or playing music while sleeping it works perfect a beep for every message every time (WiFi Again). (I know PNF is only a partial fix for WhatsApp and Telegram but I can't test it easily with Gmail and the main concern is WhatsApp as I want those messages without delay)
It's definitely something to do with keeping the phone 'active', if it's playing the music it works, if it's doing nothing it is literally like it's sleeping on the job.
I'm going to test on 3G but seems to work almost perfect so far (I haven't really used my phone on 3G much as I'm normally on WiFi)
@katkat911 can you tell me about your WiFi setup it isn't TP-Link is it? because I'm wondering if it could be a WiFi setup issue as my phone originally couldn't even detect my router until I changed some settings. (I know you have the problem on 3G too)
Apologies if this is a bit rambly I want to put my casual findings out there in order to let others have the information.
Been testing on 3G, after the phone is slept all notifications work perfectly for 10 minutes with the phone buzzing a second or 2 after my tablet, if you sleep the phone and send a message after 10 minutes the phone will only buzz after 30 minutes from being slept (ie the heartbeat).
I've reinstalled PNF app and will experiment more tomorrow, still not sure how I will fix WiFi but I think a little more experimentation is required (yet doesn't make sense why my tablet always works 100% and the phone doesn't when using the same router)
jay2the1 said:
:\ it doesn't look like that app fixes it even when changing the interval to 1min.
I've sort of found a way to at least make it happen to test stuff, using 2 devices I have installed Telegram on both and set each device up with different numbers so I can message from one device to the other, using the other device to the Moto G if I send messages sometimes the notification is instant, sometimes it is a minute later, there is no pattern on whether it will receive it instantly or delayed, however waking the device will always make the phone buzz if it is delayed.
If I add my tablet into the mix (tablet and Moto G on the same number) the difference is very stark, sending 5 quick fire messages the tablet buzzes for every message, the Moto G may buzz for the first and maybe the 2nd but then nothing for the other 3, or none at all, or none and then double beep on the last message or a little time after the last message. (all this is on WiFi)
The best news is that it has eventually beeped within a couple of minutes for every message, but in a conversation on WhatsApp a couple of minutes is a long time.
Again if the phone is awake or playing music while sleeping it works perfect a beep for every message every time (WiFi Again). (I know PNF is only a partial fix for WhatsApp and Telegram but I can't test it easily with Gmail and the main concern is WhatsApp as I want those messages without delay)
It's definitely something to do with keeping the phone 'active', if it's playing the music it works, if it's doing nothing it is literally like it's sleeping on the job.
I'm going to test on 3G but seems to work almost perfect so far (I haven't really used my phone on 3G much as I'm normally on WiFi)
@katkat911 can you tell me about your WiFi setup it isn't TP-Link is it? because I'm wondering if it could be a WiFi setup issue as my phone originally couldn't even detect my router until I changed some settings. (I know you have the problem on 3G too)
Apologies if this is a bit rambly I want to put my casual findings out there in order to let others have the information.
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I agree with you that it has something to do with phone going to sleep. My WiFi router is Netgear. I have they same problem with every other WiFi network and also on 3G. I didnt have this problem on my previous phone Galaxy Nexus.
PNF doesnt seem to work at all.
Notification problem is proved. I also have the issue. that 10 mins theory is absolutely right. as both of you have done good research, I would suggest one of you create a question at https://forums.motorola.com/hives/e3ec93b1d7/summary and summarize all your findings. Some one from Motorola will respond definitely. I see this as a deep sleep issue with the kernel. Once submitted, you can share the link of your thread here. I and others will comment confirming this as a common problem.
You may have to first register with your moto id or may be google id.
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Notification problem is proved. I also have the issue. that 10 mins theory is absolutely right. as both of you have done good research, I would suggest one of you create a question at https://forums.motorola.com/hives/e3ec93b1d7/summary and summarize all your findings. Some one from Motorola will respond definitely. I see this as a deep sleep issue with the kernel. Once submitted, you can share the link of your thread here. I and others will comment confirming this as a common problem.
You may have to first register with your moto id or may be google id.
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I have posted this on the Motoral forums here https://forums.motorola.com/posts/dbb4806484
I have been experimenting again today, the problem is significantly worse on WiFi notifications are much slower than on 3G, the problem seems completely unreplicable, sometimes notifications come though aOK even after I have left the device sleeping for an hour (using WiFi) or sometimes the notification will be delayed for several minutes even if it has only just been slept (again using WiFi), 3G on the other hand there is a definite 10 minute cut off from sleeping the device.
I've had PNF installed since last night and it doesn't help WiFi at all, but 3G it might, I say might because sometimes after 10 minutes (even an hour later) if I send a notification I do receive it straight away (something that never happened before I installed PNF) but then sometimes it doesn't and it's delayed for several minutes again.
I will join the Moto forum and add my weight to that when I get back to my computer as you need to sign in with a Google account.
I've also noticed that if the phone is sleeping whilst charging notifications work flawlessly in much the same way playing music while the device is sleeping they do. I've posted this finding in the Moto forums as well.
Fingers crossed we get a solution :fingers-crossed:
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I've also noticed that if the phone is sleeping whilst charging notifications work flawlessly in much the same way playing music while the device is sleeping they do. I've posted this finding in the Moto forums as well.
Fingers crossed we get a solution :fingers-crossed:
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I have also noticed that. It seems that many are having this issue, so far no reply from Motorola
Motorola might be investigating about it. Yesterday i went back to dalvik from art. I tested the notifications the while day. On Wi-Fi, i didn't see the delays any more. In 3g many tests were successful even after 1hr of deep sleep. Only at 4pm India time i found a delay of 22 mins for whatsapp notification. There i also realized that it had switched to 2g due to bad signal in that room. I was definitely having problem when i was on art. Last night i also got the ota for build 23. I see that the kernel is updated. I will monitor one more day and report here.
Motorola has at least seen the post even with no reply, I just hope they are busy behind the scenes working out what is wrong so they can fix it.
I've never used ART (I'm completely stock), and all the problems are still happening today, unfortunately Telegram is being DDoS'd today so haven't been able to test anything out.
It will be interesting to hear if the update you received helps in any way, esp with the updated kernel, since your retGB device received it hopefully ours may do soon too.
As far as I can tell it doesn't affect calls and SMS, but I simply don't use SMS or calls at all (WhatsApp ftw) so my testing has been the odd 'prank' phone call from my 2nd phone and it rings every time, but it's not enough to confirm if it's a fluke or if in fact it does not affect phone calls/SMS.
SMS and calls won't be impacted due to this. It's mostly related to deep sleep state of the phone. It will impact data connectivity mostly.
I have been testing as and when possible after the update. On Wi-Fi, I didn't see any delays for WhatsApp, Facebook notification, exchange mails through nine app even if the phone was in sleep mode fur an hour or so. I saw 1 min delay in Viber twice.
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SMS and calls won't be impacted due to this. It's mostly related to deep sleep state of the phone. It will impact data connectivity mostly.
I have been testing as and when possible after the update. On Wi-Fi, I didn't see any delays for WhatsApp, Facebook notification, exchange mails through nine app even if the phone was in sleep mode fur an hour or so. I saw 1 min delay in Viber twice.
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That's good news, hopefully the update has indeed fixed it, there's no indication when the update will hit the UK but if it does fix it then ASAP I hope.
anshumandash said:
SMS and calls won't be impacted due to this. It's mostly related to deep sleep state of the phone. It will impact data connectivity mostly.
I have been testing as and when possible after the update. On Wi-Fi, I didn't see any delays for WhatsApp, Facebook notification, exchange mails through nine app even if the phone was in sleep mode fur an hour or so. I saw 1 min delay in Viber twice.
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How is the phone with the new OTA update ? are notifications still delayed?
There's still no word from Motorola
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How is the phone with the new OTA update ? are notifications still delayed?
There's still no word from Motorola
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In a different thread Motorola amin had mentioned that they are investigating the notification delay issue. I don't see much delays after the update. There are few mins here and there, but mostly good. If you haven't received the update yet, check the ota thread and update manually. It's the same update. Then see if you find any improvement.
I got the OTA update yesterday and I'm still having the same issues
I bought a Pixel 5a/5g unlocked from Google and installed Android 12 during setup. I am currently using an LG V20 on Sprint/T-Mobile (USA) and have to upgrade the phone to be compatible with T-Mobile starting in 2022, hence the Pixel purchase. The phone is not rooted and I don't have the skills to do so.
Currently, I am evaluating the phone without a SIM card for usability, features, etc before deciding to keep it or return it. I can do email but not texts.
Installed Nova Launcher 7 (Free) to recover look-and-feel of the V20 homescreen.
Issue: I am having trouble getting notifications when the phone is inactive.
- "Always show time and date " is enabled so the lock screen will show that for a while: When I get emails, I will often (but not always) get a sound, the time display gets smaller, and an envelope icon appears
- After some time inactive, the screen goes dark. At that point, incoming emails don't ever show an icon alert. I only know they've arrived by making the phone active, going to the home screen, and waiting for it to contact the email server
- As far as I know, alerts are enabled for the mail app within the mail app and also in Settings for the mail app
The V20 had none of these issues. I'd get alerts on the "Second Screen" without any problem.
1) Any recommendations for how to get alerts to show consistently?
2) Is it possible to get notifications to show on the top of the screen next to the front facing camera or to the right of that where the wifi and battery icons display? I don't want to incur a battery penalty by having the date and time constantly displayed in large format
Supplementary info:
With the V20 and Pixel both on, the V20 alerts to every email within a few seconds. The Pixel alerts at best 1-5 minutes later and sometimes not at all.
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Go to settings -> apps and turn off battery optimization for any app you need. I personally have no problems with notifications with battery optimization off for my email app...
Thank you. I've enclosed a screenshot of what I think you said to do and will run my tests again. If it is not the correct setting, I'd appreciate knowing. I've used Android phones for a long time but each version of the OS takes a lot of getting used to.
nijel8 said:
Go to settings -> apps and turn off battery optimization for any app you need. I personally have no problems with notifications with battery optimization off for my email app...
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This has improved the situation to some extent. I got email notifications for five consecutive test messages sent at intervals on the Pixel without any missed ones over about 90 minutes. But, it still takes from 1 to 5 minutes whereas the V20 responds within 15 seconds and always faster than the Pixel.
Any ideas on the latency? (I also just found a setting to allow Unrestricted Data and I set Blue Mail my mail app to have that privilege)
Are there any mandatory Google services for push notifications to work? I generally disable any apps I don't use and can't remove but maybe there is something in Android 12 that I've overdone.
Currently, Gmail, Google, Google TV, and Youtube are disabled.
Additional observation:
Once the Pixel issues the alert of incoming mail, if I access the account through a separate client and mark the mail read, the icon on the Pixel disappears immediately. It is definitely hooked into the account but the notification part is slower than it ought.
one consideration may be how your pixel is interacting with whatever wifi you are using. also it seems to me a good test would be on a level playing field so turn off mobile data on the v20 so it is using the same wifi. if it's a hotspot off the v20 then use another wifi source.
I'll try that and report back. The V20 is not a hotspot . It is on the same Wifi network as the Pixel. The V20 did have cellular data enabled on the prior tests but AFAIK, the cellular data is not used when the unit is on Wifi.
Am I correct in expecting the Pixel to have an alert time comparable to the V20?
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one consideration may be how your pixel is interacting with whatever wifi you are using. also it seems to me a good test would be on a level playing field so turn off mobile data on the v20 so it is using the same wifi. if it's a hotspot off the v20 then use another wifi source.
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I disabled mobile data on the V20 and compared it with the SIM-less Pixel 5a/5g. Both are connected to the same Wifi network in my house and are next to each other on a table.
I sent 6 separate messages over about one hour to an email account (not Gmail) setup on both phones on the BlueMail app configured for Push notifications. Messages were sent on the minute mark and all devices were time synched to within a couple of seconds presumably based on a network time server. 3 messages sent from an iPhone using cellular data with Wifi off, 3 sent from my laptop using Gmail. Laptop is on the same wifi network.
In all six cases, the V20 responded in ~20 seconds almost to the dot.
The Pixel "beat" the V20 one time out of six - alert came almost instantly. The other five were 2, 3, 3, 4, and 4 minute intervals (aggregate, not all in a row) and almost always on the minute mark.
I used a macOS mail client to mark the messages as read and the alerts on both devices cleared instantly.
So, unfortunately, it is not the Mobile Data.
But, the minute mark delays make me wonder if the Pixel is polling or requires other configuration to do true Push notifications. e.g. something other than battery saver that tells the Pixel to be continuously alert for pushes.
According to this link, that isn't how Push works but the observations are what they are.
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Does Android have a method to dump all the phone settings to a file? It is possible I tweaked something on the V20 a long time ago and forgot about the setting.
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Prior runs done with both phones on battery.
Noticed Adaptive Battery was still on for some reason and toggled it off. Thought I had done that earlier. No effect to alert times.
Plugged both phones in and repeated:
1) Pixel behaves oddly. On battery, lock screen continuously shows the clock. On power, the lock screen locks after 2 mins for a while, then stops doing that but the clock brightens and dims every 30-45 seconds
2) When the Pixel screen is blanked, messages seem to be downloaded but either a sound plays with no display alert or no sound plays and no display alert
Again, marking messages read on another client takes effect immediately on the Pixel mail app.
I have no idea if this is hardware, the OS, or some weird interaction between them. I don't think there are any other battery panels to check. I received the phone on Saturday 27 November and have no idea how to contact Google for an exchange. They say they're very busy and to use their Forum which obviously won't do swaps or refunds.
i noticed under gmail settings/account settings there is an inbox notifications. and then a selection to notify for every message. i would think that this would be a default setting but looks like if you want to be notified for every message you have to select it. i normally have these notifications turned off so i guess i'm not the one to offer understanding of the ins and outs but this thing with 2 separate devices not getting almost identical notifications when desired does sorta interest me because i would think they should. i think setting battery usage to unrestricted is correct. another thing i might suspect is the adaptive connectivity selection on network connections. like maybe if you use it then wifi is not continuously on when the device is mostly idle.
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i noticed under gmail settings/account settings there is an inbox notifications. and then a selection to notify for every message. i would think that this would be a default setting but looks like if you want to be notified for every message you have to select it. i normally have these notifications turned off so i guess i'm not the one to offer understanding of the ins and outs but this thing with 2 separate devices not getting almost identical notifications when desired does sorta interest me because i would think they should. i think setting battery usage to unrestricted is correct. another thing i might suspect is the adaptive connectivity selection on network connections. like maybe if you use it then wifi is not continuously on when the device is mostly idle.
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Ok, thanks for this.
I think I will have to exchange or return this Pixel 5a/5g. I believe I have everything set up correctly in BlueMail. I have my own domain and IMAP mail service so I don't use any Gmail settings.
On top of all of the connectivity issues, the camera shows some light black "venetian blinds" as I move it around. Other apps such as AirDroid are sluggish when connecting to the Pixel and lightning fast on the V20.
I think I got a lemon.
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Ok, thanks for this.
I think I will have to exchange or return this Pixel 5a/5g. I believe I have everything set up correctly in BlueMail. I have my own domain and IMAP mail service so I don't use any Gmail settings.
On top of all of the connectivity issues, the camera shows some light black "venetian blinds" as I move it around. Other apps such as AirDroid are sluggish when connecting to the Pixel and lightning fast on the V20.
I think I got a lemon.
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i'll be interested to hear how google handles your issue so keep the thread updated. they seem to be getting bolder with denials of request for returns. the thing with the back of the 5a being kinda streaked with different shades of black is what i have on mine but i've been reading that google seems to think it's not a defect. i use a case so it's not something i get all worked up about but when other people say they think it's a returnable defect i can relate. i'm coming from the 3a and i think this 5a is overall a good evolution of the "a" lineage.
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i'll be interested to hear how google handles your issue so keep the thread updated. they seem to be getting bolder with denials of request for returns. the thing with the back of the 5a being kinda streaked with different shades of black is what i have on mine but i've been reading that google seems to think it's not a defect. i use a case so it's not something i get all worked up about but when other people say they think it's a returnable defect i can relate. i'm coming from the 3a and i think this 5a is overall a good evolution of the "a" lineage.
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I will update the thread with the return/refund status. This was my first and now my last Google device. I only wish I had punted as soon as the notification issue came up and not spent so many hours running tests.
Their support directions claim there is a "Next Step: Chat or Get a Call" but plow through the steps and you wind up with Ask the Community or Contact Us, the latter which gives "Due to high volumes, you may experience long wait times for customer support. We greatly appreciate your patience."
Fortunately, I logged into my order and saw a "Return" link. I had saved all the packing so it is back in the box with the RMA inside and the mailing label outside, ready to drop off at the Post Office/Fed Ex later today.
Note: Google does NOT list "Defective" or any flavor thereof as a reason for the return. The two mandatory dropdowns hint at problems that might have solutions if you could actually get at somebody. The comment box got a good workout though.
My device looked ok superficially but the innards are terrible. My old, obsolete V20 from eBay running Android 8 outperformed the 5a/5g not just in notifications but with other programs and in general smart design features such as the second screen , removable battery, and excellent cameras with manual controls.
I read and watched a lot of reviews before pulling the trigger on the 5a/5g and I won't ever visit those sites again! I will try to find a service that will take my V20 (it lacks a lot of bands though) and, failing that, go back to eBay and roll the dice there. If I have to settle for lower performance, I'm not paying $440 ($399+tax) for the privilege.
I do appreciate the help from the Forum.
It is quite common for email to be checked every 4 minutes, by your email client asking your server for new messages - it is NOT usually a push service. Check your email client and if you are lucky you will find, probably buried deep somewhere, a setting for time between updates. The delays you recorded, maxing out at 4 minutes (twice) is the clue. Nothing wrong here. The V20 may be hammering the server but that is not necessarily a good thing.
I don't think you got a lemon. But you should know that Android 12 may be the cause of some of the issues. I am still on 11 and have had no issues at all - it is a great phone as far as I am concerned. I will be updating to 12 soon, and hope that the next update will fix any issues with the new OS.
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It is quite common for email to be checked every 4 minutes, by your email client asking your server for new messages - it is NOT usually a push service. Check your email client and if you are lucky you will find, probably buried deep somewhere, a setting for time between updates. The delays you recorded, maxing out at 4 minutes (twice) is the clue. Nothing wrong here. The V20 may be hammering the server but that is not necessarily a good thing.
I don't think you got a lemon. But you should know that Android 12 may be the cause of some of the issues. I am still on 11 and have had no issues at all - it is a great phone as far as I am concerned. I will be updating to 12 soon, and hope that the next update will fix any issues with the new OS.
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The email clients on both phones were set for Push vs. IMAP polling at specific intervals. I went through all the setup screens I could find on the Pixel and on the app.
I agree that the OS may be the problem but I have to evaluate the product as a whole. There were a few other issues I had with the device which I didn't list here to stay focused and not generally gripe.
Perhaps an update will fix some or all of my concerns but I have already sent the phone back.
Is adaptive battery on? If so:
"To extend battery life, Adaptive Battery may reduce performance and background activity. Some notifications may be delayed."
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A full refund has posted to my credit card. I dropped off the package at FedEx Wednesday night where they scanned it in. Got an alert of a pending refund 30 minutes later. The transaction completed this morning.
No complaints on that score. The package is still in transit so Google refunded before receipt.
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Is adaptive battery on? If so:
"To extend battery life, Adaptive Battery may reduce performance and background activity. Some notifications may be delayed."
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FWIW, I had turned off every battery saver setting I could find including that one.
Rich_Palermo said:
A full refund has posted to my credit card. I dropped off the package at FedEx Wednesday night where they scanned it in. Got an alert of a pending refund 30 minutes later. The transaction completed this morning.
No complaints on that score. The package is still in transit so Google refunded before receipt.
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thanks for the update. that's good news. i had an experience with the pixel c tablet several years ago where the display was not scanning properly. they sent me a return ship label that day and shipped a new unit the next day. i had no problems with the new unit. so hearing that they are still quite prompt in resolving the customers issue is good to know.