Performance and Battery in JB. - LG Optimus 4X HD

I was wondering. I looked everywhere and cannot find exact confirmation or Review. The 4.1.2 update is coming soon for the Optimus 4X and I read on 2-3 blogs that it'll apparently improve battery life. Is that true? Has anyone tried that themselves? From what I observe on my 4X that there are a couple of apps running in the system sucking up the battery. Will the future update fix this to extend its life? Sorry if this question was asked before and/or I've made a double post.
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I'm an average user... Not much into games but I message a lot and play on YouTube use wifi and phone regularly... This is much improved for me over 10x

One day+?! Holy-- yeah that's surely an improvement to what I'm experiencing now. Is the phone running smoother as these blogs say? Any crashes/freezes or its a perfect charm. I'd just want to know what to expect...
Also, I've noticed that my phone tends to warm up from... almost everything. Is it still happening?
Edit: Sorry about this post... I rushed on asking this question without realizing that there's a Q&A section.. is there anyway to move the post? If not then I'll delete it.
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mine (first half is @ night i was checking if my phone was in deep sleep or not). I disabled many services that i dont use (MLT, lg smart, talk etc )

Disabled them as in uninstalled them? And wow.. yeah that's surely a lot better than now. Better then my last phone.
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My battery is still the same as that in v10f. I get about 3.5h of screen on time( mainly web browsing ) to reach 10%

How is the overall performance?
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Battery life on ics is still better. Anyway, jb is leak version only
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I know it's leak only. Hopefully the full release will be better.
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stormysea94 said:
My battery is still the same as that in v10f. I get about 3.5h of screen on time( mainly web browsing ) to reach 10%
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thank you finaly someone who understands what part of battery life tests are important.

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thank you finaly someone who understands what part of battery life tests are important.
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Depends on what you think is important. My phone is my "phone". I expect it to be as such. I can't imagine Web browsing for 3+ hours on my device. My Dell mini is better suited for that task and has better then 3+ hrs battery life. But maybe if your a gamer or a Facebook addict or Web browser cowboy, you find like people that use their device in the same manner as yourself and then compare notes.
Because of my job I'm often on the go and don't have the opportunity to recharge my device at leisure. It's nice to know it can be used as a phone all day and I'll still be able to call my wife at the end of that day. There if definitely improved battery in 20x after a few services are disabled and be r uninstalled. Prior to leaked JB my device required recharge after i got home. This is how I use my device and the condition under what I use it. These are my results but your milage may vary.
Yes the interface experience for me feels silky smooth. No lag, and no crashes or FCs. Best device I've owned to date.

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Depends on what you think is important. My phone is my "phone". I expect it to be as such. I can't imagine Web browsing for 3+ hours on my device. My Dell mini is better suited for that task and has better then 3+ hrs battery life. But maybe if your a gamer or a Facebook addict or Web browser cowboy, you find like people that use their device in the same manner as yourself and then compare notes.
Because of my job I'm often on the go and don't have the opportunity to recharge my device at leisure. It's nice to know it can be used as a phone all day and I'll still be able to call my wife at the end of that day. There if definitely improved battery in 20x after a few services are disabled and be r uninstalled. Prior to leaked JB my device required recharge after i got home. This is how I use my device and the condition under what I use it. These are my results but your milage may vary.
Yes the interface experience for me feels silky smooth. No lag, and no crashes or FCs. Best device I've owned to date.
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its not specificly the browsing he did that makes the post usefull unlike some people posting battery charts its the fact that he posts screen on time rather then the chart.
the full charts are useless as you cannot see how often the phone was actualy used.
if i link you 2 charts 1 with slow battery drain in standby and no apps used at all (no screen on time) lasting 2 days exactly and 1 with near no battery in standby and 4 hours app use.
they both look the same if you post a battery chart but only the second one shows the potential of the battery life.
the first just shows the phone needed to be charged after 2 days the second showed the phone is capable of lasting 2 days with near no idle battery drain and gives a verry descent 4 hours screen on time.
a phone that is configured correctly and had good 3g/wifi signal and has 3g/wifi managed correctly, has no apps with adds and no apps that drain battery wil berely use any juice in standby leaving almost all the juice for screen on time.
a badlymanaged phone might drain up to 10% an hour because of adds and poort wifi/3g management/signal.
so in a perfect world (which we should aim for) only screen on/inapp time is important as there should be no other power hoggers.

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Battery Lifetime

Good Morning folks,
as some of you are already proud owners of a LG2x, I would like to know how the battery lifetime really is. Are you guys satisfied? How intensive are you using your device?
It would be nice, if you can describe what you are running, like wifi, gps and so on... pretty sure you know what to write to give me and the others a clear view on the battery lifetime ;-)
cheers,
Manuel
Yesterday I got the phone.
On very very very hard use it took me about 7 hours for the phone to be 0%. That is kinda good in my eyes.
Today I'm doing normal use, to see how the battery goes.
I withnised 100% tot around 60% went kinda fast, but from 60% till 0% took a while
So stay tuned for the today test.
I got the phone the day before yesterday started charging it. Then in the afternoon it was fully charged and i started to play around with it. It did good but then today i had it fully charged overnight and now - at around 15:00 it dropped below 15%! I hadn't been using it for other than a few calls, a few texts and less than 10 minutes fooling around.
Something is up - i don't know what, but the battery info shows most battery usage was drained due to cell standby and mobile standby...
I don't know what really caused this Other than that i love this phone, i just hope i find the reason for this insane drain soon - i tried rebooting and even installed advanced task killer
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I got the phone the day before yesterday started charging it. Then in the afternoon it was fully charged and i started to play around with it. It did good but then today i had it fully charged overnight and now - at around 15:00 it dropped below 15%! I hadn't been using it for other than a few calls, a few texts and less than 10 minutes fooling around.
Something is up - i don't know what, but the battery info shows most battery usage was drained due to cell standby and mobile standby...
I don't know what really caused this Other than that i love this phone, i just hope i find the reason for this insane drain soon - i tried rebooting and even installed advanced task killer
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Hello, I cant really help much on the battery issue other than to say give it a few more cycles before getting too upset.
The last new battery I had in my iPhone took a week to really settle down.
I would uninstall advanced task killer as I believe it has issues with froyo and is not really needed.
Ok thanks - i think i will then
had the phone 2 days now, and feel like the battery drains fairly fast, had a BB before this and im not used to having to charge everyday. Will se how it goes the next couple of days.
Ok, it seems a lot of people already got their device. Is there someone who could try to unload (by heavy use or something else) and reload the battery again and again to get a feeling of the behavior after some loads?
Thanks!
Update: I have an update from a German guy for you who claims to found out that the service "nvrm_daemon" is the one which consumes the most power. Anyone an idea what it is? The "nv" in the name sounds like nvidia...
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Ok, it seems a lot of people already got their device. Is there someone who could try to unload (by heavy use or something else) and reload the battery again and again to get a feeling of the behavior after some loads?
Thanks!
Update: I have an update from a German guy for you who claims to found out that the service "nvrm_daemon" is the one which consumes the most power. Anyone an idea what it is? The "nv" in the name sounds like nvidia...
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nvrm has something to do with the NVIDIA kernel module.
Hund said:
nvrm has something to do with the NVIDIA kernel module.
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Yes, it seems related to Tegra.
I googled and found this little quote about the offending service on a site dealing with the Toshiba AC100 that also use the Tegra 2 chipset:
it makes suspend, sound and cpu frequency scaling work
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Isnt it coz that dual core isnt supported very well in 2.2?
Should be fixed in 2.3.
xmoo said:
Yesterday I got the phone.
On very very very hard use it took me about 7 hours for the phone to be 0%. That is kinda good in my eyes.
Today I'm doing normal use, to see how the battery goes.
I withnised 100% tot around 60% went kinda fast, but from 60% till 0% took a while
So stay tuned for the today test.
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hey xmoo, how come your always one of the first having such nice devices? if i remember right you had the hd2 pretty fast as well back in okt. 2009.
i wanna have it toooo
48 hours.
Way better than the Nexus One. Not much more I can say.
Most importantly, not much more I will say on battery. It's too subjective and circumstance specific.
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48 hours.
Way better than the Nexus One. Not much more I can say.
Most importantly, not much more I will say on battery. It's too subjective and circumstance specific.
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Would be very nice if you could quote us a small summary of your current system configuration
djmcnz said:
48 hours.
Way better than the Nexus One. Not much more I can say.
Most importantly, not much more I will say on battery. It's too subjective and circumstance specific.
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Would be very nice if you could quote us a small summary of your current system configuration
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I should be clear - I do not mean +48 hours battery, I mean I have used the phone for only 48 hours... This includes charging.
But still, much better than my Nexus One. At the same time with the same apps and usage I have 40% and on my Nexus I would have 15%.
We all still need some days (~1 week) for the battery to settle.
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hey xmoo, how come your always one of the first having such nice devices? if i remember right you had the hd2 pretty fast as well back in okt. 2009.
i wanna have it toooo
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Dunno, I think I got the good connections
I have noticed how longer the device works, the battery gets better.
Today from 8 till 17:00 my batter cme from 100% to 69%.
I mailed, whatsapped and texted a lot and 1 small phone call.
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Dunno, I think I got the good connections
I have noticed how longer the device works, the battery gets better.
Today from 8 till 17:00 my batter cme from 100% to 69%.
I mailed, whatsapped and texted a lot and 1 small phone call.
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okay in Eindhoven its in stock at a mobilephone shop. i seriously thought about to drive to the shop ... its about 260km from Paderborn
but lg said three days ago the 2x will be available end of next week. so now its up to amazon and its time to say goodbye to htc ... im really curious about the lg 2x
@xmoo thanks for your impressions of battery life. i was a little afraid of power consumption because of the dual core but that sounds fair
hi, 72 hours with the Optimus 2x and i have the same problem with the battery, it drains so fast!! with few use from 7am till 17pm 100%-32% !!! but i think today is better..
here in Antwerp,Belgium there is in stock at pdashop and gsmwijzer
kind regards
hi ~~ just want to ans. the owner of 2X ....
is your handset "Made In Korea" ??
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hi ~~ just want to ans. the owner of 2X ....
is your handset "Made In Korea" ??
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no its made in china
Ok i'm doing a real-life test atm after a few charging cycles.
What did I do/ have I on?
Have I on: Everything (gps, data, wifi (if possible),...)
What did I do: Some gaming, few youtube movies, few short calls, watching mails, some internet browsing, send a few texts.
I'm using the app : Juicedefender in combination with ultimatejuice (this prolonged my battery 2.14x!!!
How long? : Atm i'm using my cell (from full charge) for 44 hours and I still have 39% left! This means that i could get it to run for 3 days on 1 charge!
Note: this is after doing a few cycles, out-of-the-box use gets you the day around!

Should i get this phone? Advice pls!

Hi all. Im due an upgrade i summer. Im looking At this phone or the desire s. But is this phone buggy? Is the dua core really something special? Reviews on the 2x arent too good atm, the phone has many negative points abt it! It was like that with my tg01. I got it because it was the worlds first 1ghz phone. (just like this is the worlds first dual core) my tg01 has soo mamy bugs with it and it was rushed out. Is the 2x like this? I hear it is very buggy. I dont want to get another phone like my tg01 where i rely on custom roms for the phone to be usable.
So long story short, is this phone good? Is dual core something special? Or is speed more or less the same as single cores? Some ppl say that dual core is not needed with android.. Is this true?
Sorry for the quick messy typing (not on pc) and looking for some quick answers!
Cheers
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bump :')
anyone?
Its GPU is a bit ahead of the Samsung's... The CPU is far ahead. In Smartbench 2011 I score 4142CPU and 2953GPU and no samsung devices are even on the charts (with 1.4ghz OC but still stock is a lot better, and I would recommend installing a custom rom...). The call quality can be quite bad until you flash the baseband but after that it should be great. I have nothing bad to say about this phone, and when 2.4 comes out it will only get better (2.4 is rumored to come with real dual-core support)
Even though mine's been working quite well for past 2 weeks as my daily phone, there are also people who are quite fed up with theirs.
I hadn't read xda's user reviews prior to getting mine, but if I were to get another 2x now, I would wait for LG to provide a firmware update that significantly reduces the lock-up/reboot/battery drain issues. It's just to be perfectly sure that I will get one as stable (or more so) than my existing 2x.
I believe the battery drain issue can be fixed manually. just need a through check on whats running and how
thank you all for replies!
(xilw3r sorry i have run out if thanks!)
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so most issues will be fixed with updates? but does the phone need to use a custom rom to be usable? is lg's ui good?
and is dualcore really much of a difference? do you notice a giant speed difference betweeen other android phones, or is it overhyped?
is battery life good on this? how long heavy use can it last under wifi?
im really stuck considering this and the
desire s
LG ui is laggy and a personal choice, i use lancher pro plus. heavy use and wifi battery lasts a few hours.
Battery doesnt last a day with low usage for me. 5-10% per hour on standby. With 3g on and mail twitter etc sync every 60 minutes. my old hero lasts longer with heavier use
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Can't comment much on the performance or UI as I moved over from Symbian. Though, it's much smoother in its user interaction than my son's LG Optimus One, but that's single core, 600mhz.
On days that I don't play much with it and actually use it like a typical work phone, the battery remains above 50% by 6pm. I think usually about 1 to 1.5 hour talk, hourly email auto-checks, less than half-hour of browsing and less than 20 SMSes. I am not a heavy user: I don't IM at all, nor GPS or game much. Just typical work-type usage.
Note: I switch off wifi when I am out of the house and rely on 3G for data connection. I find that keeps the battery lasting longer.
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LG ui is laggy and a personal choice, i use lancher pro plus. heavy use and wifi battery lasts a few hours.
Battery doesnt last a day with low usage for me. 5-10% per hour on standby. With 3g on and mail twitter etc sync every 60 minutes. my old hero lasts longer with heavier use
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then you have some application/service/process running roque
Mine easily last 10 hours in standby with only 1% battery use (wifi and 3g and autosync enabled)
if you have 5-10% drain per hour on standby, you have some application/service/process not going to sleep as it should, using cpu and power, and preventing your phone from entering standby mode.
Thats not a problem of the phone - but a software issue that you as user need to investigate and solve
with low usage I easily get 2 days running - with moderate use 1½ - and with heavy use 1 full day.
No strange processes running here, spent a few days of testing with different roms aswell drain still exists
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thanks fir responses! i was gonna say 5-10 drainage in an hr is bad! is the a common problem? i heard abt these battey issues!
Battery usage:
16h after power was unplugged, I still have around 40-45% of battery. Low usage (WiFi/3G on, a few calls, gTalk, but no email sync activated).
ROM: 10b
"Proof": dl.dropbox.com/u/1337791/android/2011-04-07%2001.15.23.png
Thank you all for responses much aprrecisted
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I relly want this phone but im not sure about it anymore.. i read so many many many big bugs about it, and seems that almost EVERYONE is having them..
optimus one was a great phone with dew bugs, why cant they make the same quality on a HIGHER END handset lol :S ?
If you look through the forums of any phone, there will be a lot of people talking about how they have some sort of problem.
Nexus S
yea but o2x is A LOT, mean u have 60 page thead about reboot issues.... that doesnt look too promising ..
You can always return it if you have too many problems
Nexus S
The stores have em already, G-slate and G2x. Played with both today, I know the manager in store but before somebody make a dumb comment pertaining to that, aint nuttin top secret and no special info was bestowed on me because of who I know. The stores just have them stocked already. The slate is nice though, good build, nice size and weight, kinda reminded me of the ipad but lighter. Honeycomb makes our phones look like gameboy colors.
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But the G2x was also better than my expectations! By far blows most of the others out of water.
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olyloh6696 said:
Hi all. Im due an upgrade i summer.
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By the summer? This phone will be old news then.

[Q] What to do Against battery drain?

I now have one week to the Nexus One bought secondhand. It suits me perfectly stand alone I have a little trouble with the battery life of the phone. Morning when the phone is 100% and I come out of school (14:30 hours) the battery is still around 20%. I find this a bit short. Ok, I'll use him at school (bit Internet, twitter refreshes every 9 minutes)
There is an automatic task killer, and that helps a bit but I think there are about 80% after 8 hours battery life is a bit much. Me internet is also constantly and I really like to keep.
The battery is probably not because I've got 2 batteries and they both give the same result.
Anyone have any idea what I can do?
I've been a bit inet searched but not really found anything. I did see somewhere a separate battery behind the phone, but I'm not waiting because that makes him a bit heavier and uglier.
10% per hour is pretty poor battery life. Are you running stock Android? 3rd party firmwares can give you much better battery life (the latest versions of CyanogenMod are using less than 1% per hour when fully idle).
But there are things you can check. Have you looked in Settings -> About phone -> Battery usage? If you are using Gingerbread and you look at the graph, if there is a solid line (or mostly solid) next to the "awake" portion, it means that your phone isn't properly entering its low powered state. Download spare parts from the market and check out partial wake usage under the battery history section of that app.
Please post your screen on time value from the battery menu so we can see how long your screen is on.
I would say to go and disable background data. Disabling this will definitely improve your battery life. Of course, you aren't going to get you twitter updates but aside from that, the battery life should improve.
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I would say to go and disable background data. Disabling this will definitely improve your battery life. Of course, you aren't going to get you twitter updates but aside from that, the battery life should improve.
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While it is true that battery life would improve if Background Data was disabled (or limited via a program like Juice Defender), it doesn't take into account his actual problem. Unless it is a ton of apps constantly downloading that is keeping his battery usage in the toilet, this will only yield a slight improvement. I believe the cause is is an app (or apps) that prevent his phone from entering the low powered sleep state.
I don't know what stock Android gets from completely idle use (haven't run it since July last year), but a basic CyanogenMod install would sip between 1-2% per hour with the latest stable and the latest nightlies, some are reporting 1% every 2-3 hours when the phone is left alone (due to a fix that lets the microphones go into a deep sleep state).
Twitter refreshing every 9 minutes can not be helping, that said I doubt that's your entire issue but reducing the refresh rate should help quite a bit.
If you bought it used, it could be a bum battery. Not sure i know what apps work best to find out that info. Anybody?
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If you bought it used, it could be a bum battery. Not sure i know what apps work best to find out that info. Anybody?
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The battery app in my sig is the only one that reads the chip inside your battery to tell if it's legit or not, what the battery age is, etc. Needs root to work though.
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If you bought it used, it could be a bum battery. Not sure i know what apps work best to find out that info. Anybody?
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You can also get Battery Left from the Marketplace and when it gets calibrated it gives you a time until death number and some other features.
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Start by getting rid of the task killer.
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[Q] Are the battery drain issues with ICS fixed yet?

Hey there,
In case you can't tell, I'm a newbie.
Anyways, I'm currently using a 6-yo HTC Dopod Pro and I've finally decided to get a new phone.
I really want to get a Galaxy Note but I hear that the Note has a relatively short battery life.
I also heard that ICS for the Note causes the battery to drain even quicker.
Have these issues been fixed yet?
Cheers.
What you have heard is misinformation. A bad installation of ICS, rogue apps and weird settings are the cause of people having battery issues with ICS.
The Note has one of the best battery lifes among all android phones.
Note has excellent battery life. I have the LQ2 ICS, and I have no weird battery drain, wakelocks or any other probs
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Just disable some draining apps on ICS.
Don't forget the huge power of note battery( 2500mAh)
I'm also on LQ2 ICS =]
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Belfia said:
What you have heard is misinformation. A bad installation of ICS, rogue apps and weird settings are the cause of people having battery issues with ICS.
The Note has one of the best battery lifes among all android phones.
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Really?
Cuz I hear lots of things about bad battery life on ICS, even on xda.
Some examples:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1676335
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1649041
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1685383
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1676018
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1697792
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=32277
http://androidforums.com/samsung-galaxy-note/554408-battery-drainage-after-updating-ics.html
I heard the battery life was pretty good whilst on GB but as soon as people upgrade to ICS, the life was substantially lower.
The battery drain "problem" of the GNote is like troubles with your Windows computer (IMHO): The more you fumble, worse it gets. Use it as it was designed and you'll be a happy person.
I have a GNote for a few months, it was Full Stock under GB and now is Full Stock under ICS. I use it moderately (2nd phone) and could easily manage 36 hours.
I pick it of the charger ~5h30, 6h00 in the morning and find it at 60~70% when I get home about 12 hours later (30~45 minutes talk time, not much else). I than read my favorite blogs and news papers that runs it down to 30-40% (reading takes about 1,5 hours).
When I go to bed it's never lower than 27-30%
The only problem I have is that it sometimes doesn't go in Deep Sleep and that I solve through a systematical reboot in the morning (of the charger).
As always (even people) the GNote is as good as you treat it
Hey Little Vince
Welcome to XDA!
I have had Note for over 6 months (bought from UK to Brissy) Been on ICS only last eight days or so - and I can report that the battery life is slightly better than GB. Speed is better too - not as much lag.
I have used Blackberry/Axim/Palm before and always got into the habit of charging overnight so anything longer than 24 hours doesnt really matter.
Please don't let others put you off a wonderful phone. It is so versatile.
PS - it always takes a few battery cycles (e.g. three or four days) before you get accurate info. I have had quick battery drain for a few hours after updating Kernel but it always settles down.
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The only problem I have is that it sometimes doesn't go in Deep Sleep and that I solve through a systematical reboot in the morning (of the charger).
As always (even people) the GNote is as good as you treat it
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What is that systematical reboot you're talking about? Can you explain a little bit?
There are a few tricks suggested in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1649041
I found my battery life was quite poor at first but it has improved after a few charging cycles. Also, I had a lot of syncing processes running (some duplicating others). Killing some of those also helped.
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Never had an issue with batt drain, either on gb or ics... I think the latter is a bit better. I leave gps, wifi and 3g on all the time, and am a relatively heavy user... really haven't tweaked anything for batt life, other than removing some bloat.
OP, it would probably help if you told us what you would consider to be decent battery life. That way, people will be able to tell you if it is possible.
As for me, I'm on CM9 and have never tried stock ICS. I can confirm that battery life was better on GB, but CM9 still gets me through the day on fairly frequent use.
Usually fully charged when I get up in the morning (6am), and down to about 20-30% when I charge it at night before bed. This will normally include roughly 3-4 hours screen time from watching movies on the train and internet browsing throughout the day.
Same here no battery problem. I'm using DXLP9 firmware.
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Nah battery drain is a real issue with ICS. It's too documented to be denied. Doesn't matter what I think is good battery life, but relatively with GB, it was 20-30% for about 12 hours of use (wife doesn't use it much) and after ICS, it's -110%. Hmm.. I meant for the 12 hours, it needs a charge and then some. And that's crazy since my wife really doesn't use it much.
Anyhow, this completely fixed it for me. Looks like there's a few bugs that you can come across if you have battery drain with ICS. Check the full thread for more details...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25980444&postcount=2
UPDATE: ok no. Still no real solution for fixing this after trying many over lots of days. AFAIK, kernal problem that Samsung needs to fix. And please do fix!!
As I see it from the times from BBS the problem of the drain is at standby mode where the battery for the start of locking and outing on sleep it eats slot of battery till it reaches the 1% every 1 hour and 45 minutes like it was on lc1 stock, even I had on GB 2 hours 45min for 1%, it starts with 1% for 30 minutes then 45 min 1 hour and so on till it reaches the max of it.
The use with screen on is the same 25% for 1 hour and 20-30 min screen on time with low brightness, as it was with GB. On GB I had 5h30m screen on with 10-14% battery left.
So the issue for me at least, is the standby aka sleep mode.
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to the OP, yes battery drain is a documented issue on ICS, with the wake locks and rogue apps (for the unlucky few.. myself included)
i was on rooted stock GB and i used to have a good 72hrs of standby time for the note especially on the weekend when it is rarely used and maybe a good 48hrs on a weekday with average usage (about an hour's call, moderate surfing, facebook etc)
during days when i travel a lot i can be surfing and listening to music and doing calls for the better part of the day and the note still lasts a day with about 20% juice left by 7-8pm
however after I upgraded to ICS LP9, my battery couldn't even last me for a day without getting a few hours of charge from my laptop, i was on stock ICS for 2 weeks and did a lot of fine tuning just to optimize the battery life and ensure the phone goes into deep sleep and still not sufficient. the thing that blew it for me was when i noticed that my note started running at 1000mhz only and not any lower (even when charging - take note i was on unrooted ICS).. so decided that ICS with all its hype wasn't polished enough yet and was not worth it for me and went back to my stock rooted GB LC2
now i'm a happy camper.. note sleeps like a baby when it is supposed to and runs smoothly when called upon
so to answer your question (sorry about the long story) yes you can enjoy great battery life on note be it GB or ICS but you won't know until you get one for yourself.. and like what the other posters said the note is such a beast of a phone that you will not look into another phone again once you get one be it on GB or ICS
I absolutely would not recommend the G Note until there is another ICS update issued - unless you want to stick to GB (in which case I would definitely recommend).
Apart from the deep sleep problem, which for me anyway, cannot be resolved, I've had stability issues, overheating and it even pulls restarts without warning.
The only battery fixes that have kind of worked for me (and they still don't get me anywhere near the battery life I was getting with GB) involved me following a 5 step programme every time I charge my phone, which is frankly unacceptable.
FYI - I've had the note since December and it's running stock everything.
The Note is an amazing phone, but ICS has rendered mine not fit for purpose.
The sad thing is samsungs and android capabilities in finding the culprits. Fancy native battery charts which dont help much, if any in analyzing.
Only best case is to check deep sleep(cpuspy) , and if deep sleep is low check partial wakelocks in betterbatterystats.
Then you can find a lot of the culprits
Good thing the XDA community picks up where Samsung/google drop the ball.
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To the OP. My Note on gingerbread had wonderful battery life 16+ hrs. After the ICS LPY update my note dies after 5 hours. To all the naysayers saying there are no issues with battery life on ICS, give me a break. Just google how many note and galaxy SII users on ICS are having battery drain issues.
I get exactly the same battery life on ics that I did on gb, the battery drain people are having has nothing to do with ics. It will be apps causing the issues. Im running exactly the same apps as I was before and its exactly the same battery.
Alexanderbooth said:
I get exactly the same battery life on ics that I did on gb, the battery drain people are having has nothing to do with ics. It will be apps causing the issues. Im running exactly the same apps as I was before and its exactly the same battery.
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mmm.... No.... The same apps, even after a factory reset and reinstalling apps I STILL had the drain. You say it's apps that aren't optimized? That could be true... but then again, I guess it must be a VERY VERY common app that's causing this because most everyone says they've experienced a decrease in battery life.

the battery life

What really is up with Android phone and their battery life. This been bugging me for like forever and its 4:00 AM and i have to post.
Like my sister had s7 edge and just the general messenger apps IG, WhatsApp, telegram & Weechat. Rest are game for toddler. But all the time the phone been with her, her average SOT is like four hours and the BATTERY KEEPS ON DRAINING on Wi-Fi or Data and NEVER flats out. It only does when in airplane mode. Before you guys days uninstall the games, in the battery usage graph same with GSAMbattery, Android system is like up all the time. So it has to do with Android OS.
is Android really just like this? Do iPhones person better?
I have EXACTLY the same issue with my nexus 6 rooted. When my wifi is up, none stop drain and BBS doesn't show any unusual activity.
What going on guys?
y300owner said:
What really is up with Android phone and their battery life. This been bugging me for like forever and its 4:00 AM and i have to post.
Like my sister had s7 edge and just the general messenger apps IG, WhatsApp, telegram & Weechat. Rest are game for toddler. But all the time the phone been with her, her average SOT is like four hours and the BATTERY KEEPS ON DRAINING on Wi-Fi or Data and NEVER flats out. It only does when in airplane mode. Before you guys days uninstall the games, in the battery usage graph same with GSAMbattery, Android system is like up all the time. So it has to do with Android OS.
is Android really just like this? Do iPhones person better?
I have EXACTLY the same issue with my nexus 6 rooted. When my wifi is up, none stop drain and BBS doesn't show any unusual activity.
What going on guys?
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With 4 hours screen on time that is about what you can expect. Mainly when using things like weechat which is notorious for uploading all it data over and over again to its servers in China. Then you have whatsapp which is done by facebook which are known for some of the worst coded apps for battery drain in the market.
Your biggest issue is the screen on time. $ hours is a bit ruff on a device. As the screen is the biggest thing to take up battery. Unlike the iphone which uses a less intense screen due to its lower quality res.
y300owner said:
What really is up with Android phone and their battery life. This been bugging me for like forever and its 4:00 AM and i have to post.
Like my sister had s7 edge and just the general messenger apps IG, WhatsApp, telegram & Weechat. Rest are game for toddler. But all the time the phone been with her, her average SOT is like four hours and the BATTERY KEEPS ON DRAINING on Wi-Fi or Data and NEVER flats out. It only does when in airplane mode. Before you guys days uninstall the games, in the battery usage graph same with GSAMbattery, Android system is like up all the time. So it has to do with Android OS.
is Android really just like this? Do iPhones person better?
I have EXACTLY the same issue with my nexus 6 rooted. When my wifi is up, none stop drain and BBS doesn't show any unusual activity.
What going on guys?
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Bro, you should use an iPhone and see! It's much worse than Android. iPhone have less size batteries and you can hardly get through the entire day with one charge according to your usage. Although apple's implementation of background apps optimization is excellent, but still the battery life is less due to small batteries. I feel android is much better in terms of battery.
jayadev01 said:
Bro, you should use an iPhone and see! It's much worse than Android. iPhone have less size batteries and you can hardly get through the entire day with one charge according to your usage. Although apple's implementation of background apps optimization is excellent, but still the battery life is less due to small batteries. I feel android is much better in terms of battery.
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Totally agree.
You can add that android is still an open system which allows you to hard modify the system, apps behavior, etc.. So you can set your device especially for your daily use.
For example, the way I set my 2yo-phone gives me 8 to 10 hours SOT, which is faaaar from any Apple devices autonomy..
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As the screen is the biggest thing to take up battery.
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It's not especially the screen which tumble down the battery energy, not as much as touching it. Which will litterally eat your battery life..
So my question is, can the voice detection+voice commands be less energy-consuming than the touch-sensitive commands ? (while keeping an active detection)
My 1.5 year old nexus 6 on stock april rom 7.1.1 nonrooted has only 2-2.5 hour sot
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indreshpatel88 said:
My 1.5 year old nexus 6 on stock april rom 7.1.1 nonrooted has only 2-2.5 hour sot
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Bro, its time you pull up your socks. Root your phone and enjoy a whole lot of new features and performance. Our's is one of the best development on xda and you have plenty of options to choose from. All The Best. Hope to see you in the threads around!'
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Bro, its time you pull up your socks. Root your phone and enjoy a whole lot of new features and performance. Our's is one of the best development on xda and you have plenty of options to choose from. All The Best. Hope to see you in the threads around!'
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That has nothing to do with it. I get about the same on my device. Running custom rom.
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mesco38 said:
Totally agree.
You can add that android is still an open system which allows you to hard modify the system, apps behavior, etc.. So you can set your device especially for your daily use.
For example, the way I set my 2yo-phone gives me 8 to 10 hours SOT, which is faaaar from any Apple devices autonomy..
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It's not especially the screen which tumble down the battery energy, not as much as touching it. Which will litterally eat your battery life..
So my question is, can the voice detection+voice commands be less energy-consuming than the touch-sensitive commands ? (while keeping an active detection)
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No it's really mostly just the screen being on. You can test this by setting the device screen to never time out and let it sit. You will notice that it kills the battery.
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With 4 hours screen on time that is about what you can expect. Mainly when using things like weechat which is notorious for uploading all it data over and over again to its servers in China. Then you have whatsapp which is done by facebook which are known for some of the worst coded apps for battery drain in the market.
Your biggest issue is the screen on time. $ hours is a bit ruff on a device. As the screen is the biggest thing to take up battery. Unlike the iphone which uses a less intense screen due to its lower quality res.
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If Weechat and Whatsapp were responsible for the drains, why don't they show up on battery usage as top drainers?
It's always Android System
jayadev01 said:
Bro, you should use an iPhone and see! It's much worse than Android. iPhone have less size batteries and you can hardly get through the entire day with one charge according to your usage. Although apple's implementation of background apps optimization is excellent, but still the battery life is less due to small batteries. I feel android is much better in terms of battery.
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Never used Iphone but assumed they have good battery life because of endless praise it gets which is getting old.
y300owner said:
If Weechat and Whatsapp were responsible for the drains, why don't they show up on battery usage as top drainers?
It's always Android System
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That is generic which means apps system api or systems the app uses. Like say the LG tones app. It uses the system BT api and if it drains the battery then all you see is BT at the top.
After years of trial with all sorts of applications to kill apps, battery /juice saves, my ultimate solution on Samsung alpha, 1800amph only battery is conjuction of Greenify, follow up with SD Maid. Alternate day.
Excellent results. I'm rooted.
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That has nothing to do with it. I get about the same on my device. Running custom rom.
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I'd say that you either have a battery that is past it's useful life, or you have some serious wakelocks going on. 2-2.5 hours SOT is awful. I bought my device used 9 months ago and can easily average 6-8 hours SOT over the course of 48 hours on battery (on stock 7.0 unrooted). I'm only now seeing a lower SOT with this current update to Google Play Services. And even now I still get 5-6 hours SOT in 48 hours.
cameraddict said:
I'd say that you either have a battery that is past it's useful life, or you have some serious wakelocks going on. 2-2.5 hours SOT is awful. I bought my device used 9 months ago and can easily average 6-8 hours SOT over the course of 48 hours on battery (on stock 7.0 unrooted). I'm only now seeing a lower SOT with this current update to Google Play Services. And even now I still get 5-6 hours SOT in 48 hours.
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I know the reason for my bad battery life. It's my signal. Signal here is spotty and if you leave town you lose signal all together. So my device spends most of the day looking for a stronger signal. SOT really doesn't mean much to me.
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I know the reason for my bad battery life. It's my signal. Signal here is spotty and if you leave town you lose signal all together. So my device spends most of the day looking for a stronger signal. SOT really doesn't mean much to me.
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Ah yeah, well there is that as well. Have you tried turning off LTE and preffering 3G? I've found that helps in some fringe areas.
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Ah yeah, well there is that as well. Have you tried turning off LTE and preffering 3G? I've found that helps in some fringe areas.
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Yeah I normally keep late off. It doesn't help really. Signal is just too spotty. You can bounce between 2g,3g and lte in 5 min and never move. Then you have the times when the military blocks all GPS and unless you heard the announcement and turned GPS off that would also kill your battery. Then like I said once you leave town you have no signal for hundreds of miles.
Can somebody explain this?
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Can somebody explain this?
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We would need more info before we could really explain it. For starters though it looks like bluetooth is sucking the life out of your battery. Do you have something connected to it currently?
As far as my screen on time goes, im on the pixel rom with no addons and i get 4 hours screen on time
terry_mccann said:
Can somebody explain this?
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Settings -> Google -> instant tethering
Turn everything off.
cameraddict said:
I'd say that you either have a battery that is past it's useful life, or you have some serious wakelocks going on. 2-2.5 hours SOT is awful. I bought my device used 9 months ago and can easily average 6-8 hours SOT over the course of 48 hours on battery (on stock 7.0 unrooted). I'm only now seeing a lower SOT with this current update to Google Play Services. And even now I still get 5-6 hours SOT in 48 hours.
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How is 6-8 hours sot possible over 48 hours? I've tried different kernels, lineage/CyanogenMod, Pure Nexus, greenify, and even tried down clocking the CPU to 1.2 GHz or less at all times (shockingly, in normal use I couldn't tell the difference lol). Never got that much screen on time. I'm not even sure airplane mode would do that. My best was around 45 hours, but with about 3 hours of screen on time. And that was with the phone being less than 3 months old.
Currently I'm on stock Android, and getting 20 hours at best with 3 hours sot. At this point, I will say my battery is shot since it is a year old. But I'd love to see your settings and see if I could get close.
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How is 6-8 hours sot possible over 48 hours? I've tried different kernels, lineage/CyanogenMod, Pure Nexus, greenify, and even tried down clocking the CPU to 1.2 GHz or less at all times (shockingly, in normal use I couldn't tell the difference lol). Never got that much screen on time. I'm not even sure airplane mode would do that. My best was around 45 hours, but with about 3 hours of screen on time. And that was with the phone being less than 3 months old.
Currently I'm on stock Android, and getting 20 hours at best with 3 hours sot. At this point, I will say my battery is shot since it is a year old. But I'd love to see your settings and see if I could get close.
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Here are screenshots of my battery use from March. 3 days with 6.5 hours SOT. I keep my screen at a relative 20% or so (lower at night). I have very strong signal (major city) And I use wifi about 65-70% of the time. I also actively moderate my screen touches (yes, they do indeed matter). I turn off NFC and I don't use BT. I also actively purge misbehaving apps (I refuse to install some, like Facebook) Other than this, I can't really say. Perhaps, I just lucked out and got a cherry of a system (with the exception of my headphone jack not working with mics...Grrr... and my camera's image stabilization Causing blur at certain shutter speeds)

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