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Or do you just consider it a gimmick like 3d?
I have an Evo 3d now, thinking about upgrading to a Note II. I don't really care for Touchwiz, and would rather have AOSP, but after thinking about it, I'm really concerned about paying $700 for a device, and using none of the features except the large screen, similar to how I've almost never used the 3d on my current phone.
Advice?
I use it mainly on the S memo widgets to scribble myself reminders etc. and occasionally as notations on images and maps.
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I never really used it until the touchwiz based jelly bean leaks rolled out and now I'm REALLY looking forward to getting the note 2!
Ratlegion said:
Or do you just consider it a gimmick like 3d?
I have an Evo 3d now, thinking about upgrading to a Note II. I don't really care for Touchwiz, and would rather have AOSP, but after thinking about it, I'm really concerned about paying $700 for a device, and using none of the features except the large screen, similar to how I've almost never used the 3d on my current phone.
Advice?
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To be honest i bought Note with the idea to use the s pen to draw allot and wrote notes.
But i found that you write,the screen is too small,and to draw, the screen has a known bug in Note 1and Note 2 which makes the drawable area only around 4.7inches more or less. .i.e.the s pen flows haywire some near the corners of the screen...
So, as a big supporter of s pen initially i would say it is definitely a gimmick.
Also,
Touch wiz is significantly slower than AOSP even on jelly bean...
Combined r with the half-year late updates, and you liking aosp more, is say go for nexus 4 instead unless you like support AMOLED and bigger screen
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I never really used it until the touchwiz based jelly bean leaks rolled out and now I'm REALLY looking forward to getting the note 2!
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Well, what made you get the Note 1? Had you planned on using the stylus before you bought it?
Jamal Ahmed said:
To be honest i bought Note with the idea to use the s pen to draw allot and wrote notes.
But i found that you write,the screen is too small,and to draw, the screen has a known bug in Note 1and Note 2 which makes the drawable area only around 4.7inches more or less. .i.e.the s pen flows haywire some near the corners of the screen...
So, as a big supporter of s pen initially i would say it is definitely a gimmick.
Also,
Touch wiz is significantly slower than AOSP even on jelly bean...
Combined r with the half-year late updates, and you liking aosp more, is say go for nexus 4 instead unless you like support AMOLED and bigger screen
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I really want to, but I've been afraid of the dismal storage and battery life. I am on Sprint and I have around 25 gigs of music I carry because I have been unable to rely on the cloud. When I buy my next device, it will be unlocked for use on T Mobile. Obviously it would be impossible to beat a deal like the Nexus 4 in the unlocked department on price, and perhaps T Mobile's network won't let me down for streaming through Play Music. Either that, or I might take up finally carrying around a PMP.
I had also thought, perhaps erroneously, that being released with mega specs and JB would be enough to overthrow the lag. I guess you are expecting it anyway?
Never used it when on the factory Os and Touch whiz UI that came the S-apps.
use it infrequently now that I am on cyanogen 10.
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Nevermind, already found videos showcasing lag from an overabundance of Touchwiz features on Sprint.
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Initially, the selling point was the screen size and the stylus but after buying the phone and putting an aosp Rom on it, i didn't use the stylus but the added features available with the stylus in the jelly bean leak has my using the stylus a lot more.
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I think this thread in the Nexus 4 forum can help you
Yes not always but when at places where i have to jot things down or when in need of a pen and paper. Also when i am extremely bore and had nothing to do i sketch or draw things. No need to play minecraft anymore. My spen is there ti handle all my creativity.
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i guess SPEN was a success ... as even LG has comeup with one
Stylus is back in action
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i use it regularily to take notes in class with lecture notes.
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It's not something you use all the time but for specific things it's very useful. Things I've used it for recently:
- drawing a number of possible logos and sending them via mail
- Google maps measure feature; much more accurate to select measure points than a finger
- use as a pen for crossword puzzles on screen
- kids drawing to keep them amused while out
- sending location of my parked car to wife with big arrow showing where it was left
So nothing you couldn't do anyway but much easier and more accurately with the S Pen.
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I only use it while playing draw something.
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I currently have both the One and the S4 in my possession, trying to decide which one is going back. I was thinking about how I can't wait to change the software on either one to a stock Google rom and got to thinking.. If we install a rom that isn't based off sense, are we going to basically be stuck with a 4 megapixel camera since there is no HTC software optimization? At least the S4 is 13 megapixels and can hold its own. Also, what about sound quality? Will that be affected as well? If that's the case, the S4 may be the keeper since I can't stand both TW or Sense.
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I currently have both the One and the S4 in my possession, trying to decide which one is going back. I was thinking about how I can't wait to change the software on either one to a stock Google rom and got to thinking.. If we install a rom that isn't based off sense, are we going to basically be stuck with a 4 megapixel camera since there is no HTC software optimization? At least the S4 is 13 megapixels and can hold its own. Also, what about sound quality? Will that be affected as well? If that's the case, the S4 may be the keeper since I can't stand both TW or Sense.
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The software doesn't optimize the picture, we simply have a larger sensor and wider aperture than most other phones. You will never print an 8x10 of your 4mp images but they will look amazing on small to medium displays.
Note there *are* some software-based camera-related features that you will lose if you replace Sense with an AOSP ROM. (Zoe springs to mind, maybe the instagram-ish filters and other editing tools). It's not just about resolution.
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Now that HTC announced a Google Edition of it's flagship phone 'HTC One',
Who is planning to sell their N4 for the One?
Price:$599 Availability: June 26th via Google Play
Full Statement for HTC: http://blog.htc.com/2013/05/htc-one-google-nexus-experience/?gb25
100% getting it, but not until it's in the UK...upgrade is end of July, out of contract in October. The Nexus 5 will have to be something special for me not to get the One
Will it be in aosp
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Will it be in aosp
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I suppose that's the $64,000 question...
http://briefmobile.com/google-announces-htc-one-google-edition
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Will it be in aosp
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I'd like to know this as well.
Also will Samsung release aosp for the s4 nexus edition?
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I want one!
I think if the one and s4 aren't in aosp that's where the nexus experience ends.
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Don't get whybit wouldn't be aosp. Isn't that what google labels as the "nexus experience? It'd bebpointless for themto sell it that way only for it to not be aosp
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If it doesnt have nexus logo on the back and onscreen buttons it is not Nexus for me. :laugh:
Might as well get the 64gb dev edition now and flash an aosp rom when it's released.
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I think if the one and s4 aren't in aosp that's where the nexus experience ends.
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Yeah I agree. the best part of nexus is the fact that there's so much development due to it being open source. If samsung/ HTC don't release the source it would be disappointing.
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I'm still planning on buying the N4 and re-evaluating my options when the Motorola X phone comes out. The N4 is just cheap enough to do that. If I dropped $600 on a phone, I'd feel like I have to keep it for a few years.
I'm definitely keeping my Nexus 4. I just love this phone too much. I'm still not clear as to why anyone would buy the Google Edition of any of these phones. If you want that phone, buy it. If you want the Nexus experience, buy a Nexus. Some will argue they want stock Android on that phone's hardware, but I don't get why.
"Expandable storage!"
Is 64gb of expandable storage really worth $300?
"Better hardware!"
Has anyone really maxed the Nexus 4 out yet? We're getting diminishing returns on our hardware nowadays. Now, I can understand future-proofing, but you could get a Nexus 4 now, and a Nexus 5 when it comes out and still be around the price you'd pay for the GE of the One.
Those are the main points. There are always things like screen, speakers, hardkeys, and heck, even location of the audio jack that could sway the decision. I just don't think those minor differences are worth doubling the price of the phone. The Nexus 4 is by far the most bang for your buck, which is why I will be staying in the Nexus line until I don't have the option to.
To each his own, I guess. Plus, with the GE of the phones, ROM developers can develop their ROMs for these phones easier I suppose. That's assuming the OEMs will release the source code for their version of stock Android, since it isn't technically AOSP. And think about it: do you think these companies are willing to release their proprietary drivers and kernels to the general public for development reasons? Maybe, but I've grown cynical over the years.
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I'm definitely keeping my Nexus 4. I just love this phone too much. I'm still not clear as to why anyone would buy the Google Edition of any of these phones. If you want that phone, buy it. If you want the Nexus experience, buy a Nexus. Some will argue they want stock Android on that phone's hardware, but I don't get why.
"Expandable storage!"
Is 64gb of expandable storage really worth $300?
"Better hardware!"
Has anyone really maxed the Nexus 4 out yet? We're getting diminishing returns on our hardware nowadays. Now, I can understand future-proofing, but you could get a Nexus 4 now, and a Nexus 5 when it comes out and still be around the price you'd pay for the GE of the One.
Those are the main points. There are always things like screen, speakers, hardkeys, and heck, even location of the audio jack that could sway the decision. I just don't think those minor differences are worth doubling the price of the phone. The Nexus 4 is by far the most bang for your buck, which is why I will be staying in the Nexus line until I don't have the option to.
To each his own, I guess. Plus, with the GE of the phones, ROM developers can develop their ROMs for these phones easier I suppose. That's assuming the OEMs will release the source code for their version of stock Android, since it isn't technically AOSP. And think about it: do you think these companies are willing to release their proprietary drivers and kernels to the general public for development reasons? Maybe, but I've grown cynical over the years.
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I agree with you 100% on all of your points. I dont know why people complain about storage. You just have to be smarter about what you have on your phone, be realistic about it. You don't need 10 HD movies and 40,000 songs and 150apps at the same time. I've been smart with my 8GB N4 and i don't regret it at all.
Yes also, the nexus 4 is worth every penny. Great hardware and software at a fraction of the price. I'm staying Nexus from now on.
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I'm definitely keeping my Nexus 4. I just love this phone too much. I'm still not clear as to why anyone would buy the Google Edition of any of these phones. If you want that phone, buy it. If you want the Nexus experience, buy a Nexus. Some will argue they want stock Android on that phone's hardware, but I don't get why.
"Expandable storage!"
Is 64gb of expandable storage really worth $300?
"Better hardware!"
Has anyone really maxed the Nexus 4 out yet? We're getting diminishing returns on our hardware nowadays. Now, I can understand future-proofing, but you could get a Nexus 4 now, and a Nexus 5 when it comes out and still be around the price you'd pay for the GE of the One.
Those are the main points. There are always things like screen, speakers, hardkeys, and heck, even location of the audio jack that could sway the decision. I just don't think those minor differences are worth doubling the price of the phone. The Nexus 4 is by far the most bang for your buck, which is why I will be staying in the Nexus line until I don't have the option to.
To each his own, I guess. Plus, with the GE of the phones, ROM developers can develop their ROMs for these phones easier I suppose. That's assuming the OEMs will release the source code for their version of stock Android, since it isn't technically AOSP. And think about it: do you think these companies are willing to release their proprietary drivers and kernels to the general public for development reasons? Maybe, but I've grown cynical over the years.
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Indont get the logic in peoplebhere saying if you want the nexus experience buy a nexus. Tunnel vision anyone? Google would fail if they labeleed these devices as "nexus '' experience and available only from playstore only to not be aosp. Where isbthere documentation that itbis NOT aosp or it won't get frequent updates lkke nexus devices? There also isn't evidence for aure thst they will get prompt updates but think about it.
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I would have loved to buy the one but since I live in Asia and not in the US, I could not. but I love the software of the camera of the one and if it isnt there, it would just have a better hardware than the nexus which I do not really find appealing since the Nexus 4 already is fast enough. expandable storage might be one to consider though.
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I'm good. I'll wait on the Nexus 5 for $299!
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If it came at tyat price I'd get it. Itll be a miracle ifn theybadded sd card support. Somenofnus take pics of their kids
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Improvements over Nexus 4
-Built material (aluminum/plastic vs glass/plastic)
-Superior front facing speakers
-Better low light camera performance
-Optical image stabilization on camera
-1080p res screen
-IR blaster (assuming it ships with API for it...don't think it's in stock android)
-capacitive buttons (giving more usable screen)
-Larger battery (2300 mAh vs 2100 mAh)
Minuses vs Nexus 4
-no wireless charging
-possibly less development support
-higher price than N4
Am I missing anything?
Not at that price. I'd consider it @ $400... maybe $450. While I like HTC's build quality and materials, it's just not much of a value for me over the N4.
Looks like LG G2 is the premium cousin of Nexus 5. With only 2300mah battery, and low spec camera, I am glad I got the G2.
http://www.gsmarena.com/leaked_nexus_5_log_reveals_most_of_the_specs-news-6876.php
Most of the stuff is no surprise – a 5" screen (actually, 4.97") with 1080p resolution, 442ppi pixel density, a Snapdragon 800 chipset with 2GB of RAM and 16GB storage (on that concrete model, there might be others with more and hopefully not less storage). The phone ran Key Lime Pie (a.k.a. Android 4.4 KitKat), build version KRS74H.
It seems that the camera has been changed to an 8MP snapper (the Nexus 4 also got a lower-res camera than the Optimus G it was based on). It's too early to tell if there will be optical image stabilization (probably not though). There's a 1.2MP front-facing camera too.
The Nexus 5 will pack dual-band Wi-Fi a/b/g/n/ac, Bluetooth 4.0, NFC and GPS connectivity. The model whose log file leaked ran on North American LTE bands, but we should expect a Euro version too.
Pieces of the leaked log with the salient info
The phone will have wireless charging built in and while battery capacity wasn’t in the logs, FCC docs point to a 2,300mAh unit. There will also be a full set of sensors – accelerometer, magnetometer, gyroscope, proximity and light sensors as well as a barometer. The FCC measured the phone at 131.9mm tall and 68.2 mm wide, there's no info on thickness.
A case maker, SPIGEN, puts the Nexus 5 launch date at October 31, a month from now.
Thanks for the tip, Emanuele!
I spent most of last night snapping pics and a birthday party. After 2 years with my gnexus I realized how nice it is to have a great camera. I don't care that it's 8 mp. But I freaking love ois.
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zathus said:
I spent most of last night snapping pics and a birthday party. After 2 years with my gnexus I realized how nice it is to have a great camera. I don't care that it's 8 mp. But I freaking love ois.
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It looks good cause its 13MP camera...
GNex's camera serves me well enough for daily snap. It was nothing to boast about.
What I hated most about the Gnex is the battery life with never ever lasted me the whole day, especially at night when you go out with friends, that is when you want your phone most.
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It looks good cause its 13MP camera...
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Not true. Megapixels on cell phone cameras don't really mean ****. 8mp or 13mp, its a way higher resolution than it needs to be... No ones printing posters from their cell phone photos. Sensor quality and speed, iso performance, and compression/processing are all much more important. Which is why my 10mp DSLR takes way better photos than my 13mp phone or 16mp point and shoot.
Its still probably very likely that the N5 camera will be worse. But it won't be because of the lower mp sensor. It'll be because Google is going to cut corners wherever they can to get a $300-$400 price tag.
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Not true. Megapixels on cell phone cameras don't really mean ****. 8mp or 13mp, its a way higher resolution than it needs to be... No ones printing posters from their cell phone photos. Sensor quality and speed, iso performance, and compression/processing are all much more important. Which is why my 10mp DSLR takes way better photos than my 13mp phone or 16mp point and shoot.
Its still probably very likely that the N5 camera will be worse. But it won't be because of the lower mp sensor. It'll be because Google is going to cut corners wherever they can to get a $300-$400 price tag.
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My brother has been in the printing and imaging biz for about 40 years and he says the same things. All those pixels are good for cropping smaller pics from big ones or printing posters but it doesn't help the quality of the image any.
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It looks good cause its 13MP camera...
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Its 10 mp by default. 13 mp pics are squares. So, my comment on amazing photos are based on 10 mp pics. I'm amazed people still say mps matter. How many times has that theory been crushed. IPhone 5s is 8 mp and it CRUSHES the s4s 13 mp camera.
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kcharng said:
GNex's camera serves me well enough for daily snap. It was nothing to boast about.
What I hated most about the Gnex is the battery life with never ever lasted me the whole day, especially at night when you go out with friends, that is when you want your phone most.
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I agree with you about the battery life. The Galaxy Nexus had absolutely horrible battery life. The Nexus 5 has me interested but I'm still looking at the G2 as an upgrade to my current phone which is a Note 2 mostly because of the battery.
Yeah so true, what is the point of snapdragon 800, and 5"screen of the phone won't last you through out the day.
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I agree with you about the battery life. The Galaxy Nexus had absolutely horrible battery life. The Nexus 5 has me interested but I'm still looking at the G2 as an upgrade to my current phone which is a Note 2 mostly because of the battery.
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most of part of nexus 5 is part of G2 to say, this time LG surely built great phone, glad i decided to bought G2
If people don't buy Nexus devices purely based on price, then they are nuts imo. There are always better phones hardware and specs wise out there that can easily have an AOSP rom flashed to it.
I always buy a phone that suits me the best and then I can always flash an AOSP rom if needed.
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If people don't buy Nexus devices purely based on price, then they are nuts imo. There are always better phones hardware and specs wise out there that can easily have an AOSP rom flashed to it.
I always buy a phone that suits me the best and then I can always flash an AOSP rom if needed.
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Exactly my thoughts on it.
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Especially with the upcoming Cyanogen CM ROM app coming to the Play Store, will be easy as pie to install the latest CM ROM on your phone, even if your not comfortable rooting, and flashing rom's yourself. Now will be super easy. Just need a phone that has an unlocked bootloader out of the box, and no funny ATT or Verizon lock down on it, which the G2 I think is developer friendly, and is in LG's best interest to gain support from the community, I think LG is in the Android position, like Samsung was back in the Galaxy S2 days a few years ago.
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If people don't buy Nexus devices purely based on price, then they are nuts imo. There are always better phones hardware and specs wise out there that can easily have an AOSP rom flashed to it.
I always buy a phone that suits me the best and then I can always flash an AOSP rom if needed.
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So youre saying youre going to buy one?
Unless the Nexus 5 announcement pulls a ton of surprises, I don't see how it could be a bigger draw to get it over the G2, besides the significantly lowered pricepoint of course.
2 weeks ago, I was in a bit of a dilemma over getting the G2 then or waiting it out for the Nexus. I'm glad I sorted that bit out.
Loving the G2 more with each day!
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If people don't buy Nexus devices purely based on price, then they are nuts imo. There are always better phones hardware and specs wise out there that can easily have an AOSP rom flashed to it.
I always buy a phone that suits me the best and then I can always flash an AOSP rom if needed.
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Some people don't mind paying a premium for something they use every day, also some are on Verizon.
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Is the G2 unlockable? I see there is TWRP and stuff but I don't see any root or custom roms yet. I like the G2 but ain't no way I'm going to be a frontrunner after the G2x burned me.
I'd rather have the N5 with lower specs then the G2 IF LG isn't going to support it.
My 2yr Galaxy Nexus running 4.3 AOKP is plenty fast and absolutely a beast on Battery (stock 2100mAh extended). I'd hate to get rid of it but the OMAP CPU is showing its age. Otherwise the best phone I have ever owned. I'll make a choice in December to see where the G2 and the N5 are. In a perfect world, with the N5 is close in hardware, ROMs could be ported back and forth easily allowing one to have the better spec'd G2 with all the development that comes with a Nexus.
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Is the G2 unlockable? I see there is TWRP and stuff but I don't see any root or custom roms yet. I like the G2 but ain't no way I'm going to be a frontrunner after the G2x burned me.
I'd rather have the N5 with lower specs then the G2 IF LG isn't going to support it.
My 2yr Galaxy Nexus running 4.3 AOKP is plenty fast and absolutely a beast on Battery (stock 2100mAh extended). I'd hate to get rid of it but the OMAP CPU is showing its age. Otherwise the best phone I have ever owned. I'll make a choice in December to see where the G2 and the N5 are. In a perfect world, with the N5 is close in hardware, ROMs could be ported back and forth easily allowing one to have the better spec'd G2 with all the development that comes with a Nexus.
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You haven't used any other phone. The gnex is slow and Verizon 4.3 has terrible signal.
Hopefully that 8MP shooter is something like the Exmor R featured in the 5S.
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Especially with the upcoming Cyanogen CM ROM app coming to the Play Store, will be easy as pie to install the latest CM ROM on your phone, even if your not comfortable rooting, and flashing rom's yourself. Now will be super easy. Just need a phone that has an unlocked bootloader out of the box, and no funny ATT or Verizon lock down on it, which the G2 I think is developer friendly, and is in LG's best interest to gain support from the community, I think LG is in the Android position, like Samsung was back in the Galaxy S2 days a few years ago.
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I'd like to say you are right, but I don't think LG is considered dev friendly at the moment!! Far away from Sony or Oppo.
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If people don't buy Nexus devices purely based on price, then they are nuts imo. There are always better phones hardware and specs wise out there that can easily have an AOSP rom flashed to it.
I always buy a phone that suits me the best and then I can always flash an AOSP rom if needed.
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I love CM and AOSP.
At the moment my SGS3 is running Android 4.2.2 CM 10.1. It is now very good but it arrived later then 4.3 stock on my N4.
AOSP 3rd party ROMS will always be at least 6 months behind official Android on Nexus.
So I just picked up a moto x from AT&T and I'm just curious what the realistic expectations for the development community on this phone are.
I'm coming from the DNA which had a decent following but from reading through the forums so far it's hard to tell what I could expect for the moto x.
Ideas?
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cc16177 said:
So I just picked up a moto x from AT&T and I'm just curious what the realistic expectations for the development community on this phone are.
I'm coming from the DNA which had a decent following but from reading through the forums so far it's hard to tell what I could expect for the moto x.
Ideas?
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So far the consensus is: Probably not much developer support, but no one really seems to think the device needs it. Its stock google except for touchless control and active notification, both of which are stellar features.
edit - there are rumors that cyanogenmod is working on a port though
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So far the consensus is: Probably not much developer support, but no one really seems to think the device needs it. Its stock google except for touchless control and active notification, both of which are stellar features.
edit - there are rumors that cyanogenmod is working on a port though
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I have to agree. It looks like the development won't be here because of the specs. It's a shame too because I love this phone and was hoping that a good dev community would get on board. But so far that doesn't look like it is going to happen.
This phone has only been out for a month, the DE version has only been out for a couple of weeks, so wait be patient and we will have custom roms
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Also agree...i dont think there will be any development for ATT version because of locked BL.
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I'm guessing once they drop the price $100 it could get more popular. The fact its on every carrier I think helps. But the locked boot loader on the two biggest us carriers doesn't
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I asked bmc08gt about aokp and this is what I got.
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I'm not sure its due to the "specs", given that they are pretty cutting edge.
I think its more that the time is not worth the RoI
I'm very happy with where the phone is but knowing myself that only usually lasts a month or two.
Was just curious what everyone thought, thanks for the input.
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It would really suck if there isn't much development. Don't know if I could own an android phone without flashing custom roms.
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pathtologos said:
It would really suck if there isn't much development. Don't know if I could own an android phone without flashing custom roms.
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The only point to flash a custom ROM is to improve on the crappy stock. The moto x is almost perfect. Unless the developer really puts a lot of thought into a ROM for us I'd be willing to bet we'd FUBAR something up when it comes to features. I'd just like a little bit more customization options. Other than that, this phone is as solid as they come.
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matt99017d said:
The only point to flash a custom ROM is to improve on the crappy stock. The moto x is almost perfect. Unless the developer really puts a lot of thought into a ROM for us I'd be willing to bet we'd FUBAR something up when it comes to features. I'd just like a little bit more customization options. Other than that, this phone is as solid as they come.
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I agree but I do like to customize quite a bit and I hope more customization options come to us. I'd also like a cm rom, an aokp, a paranoid, and a pac man. I'd be quite happy if I saw those represented here!
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pathtologos said:
I agree but I do like to customize quite a bit and I hope more customization options come to us. I'd also like a cm rom, an aokp, a paranoid, and a pac man. I'd be quite happy if I saw those represented here!
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Well then. I'm with ya there. While we're putting in requests, I want a way to downgrade from the latest upgrade, an unlocked BL, and a money tree. I only see the last one happening with how well Moto locks their stuff down.
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I think this might be the first phone where I don't think I need root or an unlocked bootloader. Now whether or not I want those options is another story.
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luniz7 said:
I think this might be the first phone where I don't think I need root or an unlocked bootloader. Now whether or not I want those options is another story.
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I'm with you, with this phone I can easily see myself staying stock without complaint. Even though there is a root solution, I still passed because the phone worked so well as is.
But I would love to see what developers could do with this phone, but lack of development is not a deal breaker... Can't say that for any other phone I have owned to date. Every other phone, I have rooted and ceaselessly flashed Roms trying to find the "perfect" setup. With the moto x, I powered it on and have been happy ever since. I'm even using the stock keyboard and messenger app... Don't think I've used those since my first android device.
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I can't handle being on a stock AOSP ROM coming from a Neuxs. I hoping we see a Slim Bean type of ROM for the X with all the Moto features included in it. *fingers crossed*
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anotherfiz said:
I'm not sure its due to the "specs", given that they are pretty cutting edge.
I think its more that the time is not worth the RoI
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"Cutting edge"? It has a dualcore processor and a 720p screen. It really isn't cutting edge at all.
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Dragn4rce said:
I can't handle being on a stock AOSP ROM coming from a Neuxs. I hoping we see a Slim Bean type of ROM for the X with all the Moto features included in it. *fingers crossed*
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That won't happen because slim is built off of AOSP and the Motorola features are not in AOSP.
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joshnichols189 said:
"Cutting edge"? It has a dualcore processor and a 720p screen. It really isn't cutting edge at all.
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Actually, the number of cores and resolution mean nothing in terms of "cutting edge". You can throw spec sheets all you want, but real world 720p vs 1080p is a **** measuring contest. we're talking about a 5 inch device here, pixel density to the naked eye for the average person maxes out at like 280ppi, you cant see individual pixels in the moto x, just like you couldnt see them in the galaxy nexus or the s3/s4. That being said, the moto X has a full RBG pixel sublayout, which is lacking in nearly every other display on the market - Furthermore, it uses significantly less power than other displays on the market. (http://www.forbes.com/sites/parmyol...ive-than-the-new-iphone-researchers-think-so/)
as for the processor. I'm going to give you an analogy to the PC market. AMD produces high core CPU's (6 and 8) which are far less innovative or cutting edge than intels quad core CPU's. Poopx8 is still poop. The dual core chips in the moto X are Krait 300 chips paired with an Adreno 320. This is the same snapdragon 600 that you find in the nexus 7 2013 and the s4/HTC one. In graphics benchmarks, the moto X wins even on 1080p (offscreen) tests, and side by side tests show the moto x preforming faster in apps than both the s4 and the htc one. So regardless of the paper specs, it is on par with those phones, which is who it is targeted against at I might add. (http://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Moto-X-review.003.png)
Then you add in the Sensor chip and the NLP chip, and stacked battery and you have a device that outperforms all of its peers, gets better battery life, and offers more always on features than all of its peers. You don't think that is cutting edge because it is a "dual core"? Marketing has gotten to your brain =x
EDIT - To be clear, I know the snapdragon 800 is the new bad boy on the block, but I argue that a change in the way people use their phone in a positive manner is more innovative than a linear bump in specs. Besides, the X came out before them and is a platform launch device.
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Actually, the number of cores and resolution mean nothing in terms of "cutting edge". You can throw spec sheets all you want, but real world 720p vs 1080p is a **** measuring contest. we're talking about a 5 inch device here, pixel density to the naked eye for the average person maxes out at like 280ppi, you cant see individual pixels in the moto x, just like you couldnt see them in the galaxy nexus or the s3/s4. That being said, the moto X has a full RBG pixel sublayout, which is lacking in nearly every other display on the market - Furthermore, it uses significantly less power than other displays on the market. (http://www.forbes.com/sites/parmyol...ive-than-the-new-iphone-researchers-think-so/)
as for the processor. I'm going to give you an analogy to the PC market. AMD produces high core CPU's (6 and 8) which are far less innovative or cutting edge than intels quad core CPU's. Poopx8 is still poop. The dual core chips in the moto X are Krait 300 chips paired with an Adreno 320. This is the same snapdragon 600 that you find in the nexus 7 2013 and the s4/HTC one. In graphics benchmarks, the moto X wins even on 1080p (offscreen) tests, and side by side tests show the moto x preforming faster in apps than both the s4 and the htc one. So regardless of the paper specs, it is on par with those phones, which is who it is targeted against at I might add. (http://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Moto-X-review.003.png)
Then you add in the Sensor chip and the NLP chip, and stacked battery and you have a device that outperforms all of its peers, gets better battery life, and offers more always on features than all of its peers. You don't think that is cutting edge because it is a "dual core"? Marketing has gotten to your brain =x
EDIT - To be clear, I know the snapdragon 800 is the new bad boy on the block, but I argue that a change in the way people use their phone in a positive manner is more innovative than a linear bump in specs. Besides, the X came out before them and is a platform launch device.
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Seriously! Cutting edge isn't always about numbers and theoretical performance. We live in a day where we have reached a soft cap in how raw "power" can be utilized...
Innovation and advance isn't about making something load an app 3 milliseconds faster, but rather, change how we interact with that technology on a daily basis... This phone has met the new demand for innovation, it has clearly changed the landscape of user/device interaction... Not to mention, that it is as fast and has the battery life of any of the "power house" phones on the market...
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