So I just picked up a moto x from AT&T and I'm just curious what the realistic expectations for the development community on this phone are.
I'm coming from the DNA which had a decent following but from reading through the forums so far it's hard to tell what I could expect for the moto x.
Ideas?
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cc16177 said:
So I just picked up a moto x from AT&T and I'm just curious what the realistic expectations for the development community on this phone are.
I'm coming from the DNA which had a decent following but from reading through the forums so far it's hard to tell what I could expect for the moto x.
Ideas?
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So far the consensus is: Probably not much developer support, but no one really seems to think the device needs it. Its stock google except for touchless control and active notification, both of which are stellar features.
edit - there are rumors that cyanogenmod is working on a port though
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So far the consensus is: Probably not much developer support, but no one really seems to think the device needs it. Its stock google except for touchless control and active notification, both of which are stellar features.
edit - there are rumors that cyanogenmod is working on a port though
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I have to agree. It looks like the development won't be here because of the specs. It's a shame too because I love this phone and was hoping that a good dev community would get on board. But so far that doesn't look like it is going to happen.
This phone has only been out for a month, the DE version has only been out for a couple of weeks, so wait be patient and we will have custom roms
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Also agree...i dont think there will be any development for ATT version because of locked BL.
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I'm guessing once they drop the price $100 it could get more popular. The fact its on every carrier I think helps. But the locked boot loader on the two biggest us carriers doesn't
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I asked bmc08gt about aokp and this is what I got.
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I'm not sure its due to the "specs", given that they are pretty cutting edge.
I think its more that the time is not worth the RoI
I'm very happy with where the phone is but knowing myself that only usually lasts a month or two.
Was just curious what everyone thought, thanks for the input.
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It would really suck if there isn't much development. Don't know if I could own an android phone without flashing custom roms.
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pathtologos said:
It would really suck if there isn't much development. Don't know if I could own an android phone without flashing custom roms.
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The only point to flash a custom ROM is to improve on the crappy stock. The moto x is almost perfect. Unless the developer really puts a lot of thought into a ROM for us I'd be willing to bet we'd FUBAR something up when it comes to features. I'd just like a little bit more customization options. Other than that, this phone is as solid as they come.
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The only point to flash a custom ROM is to improve on the crappy stock. The moto x is almost perfect. Unless the developer really puts a lot of thought into a ROM for us I'd be willing to bet we'd FUBAR something up when it comes to features. I'd just like a little bit more customization options. Other than that, this phone is as solid as they come.
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I agree but I do like to customize quite a bit and I hope more customization options come to us. I'd also like a cm rom, an aokp, a paranoid, and a pac man. I'd be quite happy if I saw those represented here!
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I agree but I do like to customize quite a bit and I hope more customization options come to us. I'd also like a cm rom, an aokp, a paranoid, and a pac man. I'd be quite happy if I saw those represented here!
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Well then. I'm with ya there. While we're putting in requests, I want a way to downgrade from the latest upgrade, an unlocked BL, and a money tree. I only see the last one happening with how well Moto locks their stuff down.
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I think this might be the first phone where I don't think I need root or an unlocked bootloader. Now whether or not I want those options is another story.
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I think this might be the first phone where I don't think I need root or an unlocked bootloader. Now whether or not I want those options is another story.
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I'm with you, with this phone I can easily see myself staying stock without complaint. Even though there is a root solution, I still passed because the phone worked so well as is.
But I would love to see what developers could do with this phone, but lack of development is not a deal breaker... Can't say that for any other phone I have owned to date. Every other phone, I have rooted and ceaselessly flashed Roms trying to find the "perfect" setup. With the moto x, I powered it on and have been happy ever since. I'm even using the stock keyboard and messenger app... Don't think I've used those since my first android device.
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I can't handle being on a stock AOSP ROM coming from a Neuxs. I hoping we see a Slim Bean type of ROM for the X with all the Moto features included in it. *fingers crossed*
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I'm not sure its due to the "specs", given that they are pretty cutting edge.
I think its more that the time is not worth the RoI
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"Cutting edge"? It has a dualcore processor and a 720p screen. It really isn't cutting edge at all.
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I can't handle being on a stock AOSP ROM coming from a Neuxs. I hoping we see a Slim Bean type of ROM for the X with all the Moto features included in it. *fingers crossed*
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That won't happen because slim is built off of AOSP and the Motorola features are not in AOSP.
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"Cutting edge"? It has a dualcore processor and a 720p screen. It really isn't cutting edge at all.
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Actually, the number of cores and resolution mean nothing in terms of "cutting edge". You can throw spec sheets all you want, but real world 720p vs 1080p is a **** measuring contest. we're talking about a 5 inch device here, pixel density to the naked eye for the average person maxes out at like 280ppi, you cant see individual pixels in the moto x, just like you couldnt see them in the galaxy nexus or the s3/s4. That being said, the moto X has a full RBG pixel sublayout, which is lacking in nearly every other display on the market - Furthermore, it uses significantly less power than other displays on the market. (http://www.forbes.com/sites/parmyol...ive-than-the-new-iphone-researchers-think-so/)
as for the processor. I'm going to give you an analogy to the PC market. AMD produces high core CPU's (6 and 8) which are far less innovative or cutting edge than intels quad core CPU's. Poopx8 is still poop. The dual core chips in the moto X are Krait 300 chips paired with an Adreno 320. This is the same snapdragon 600 that you find in the nexus 7 2013 and the s4/HTC one. In graphics benchmarks, the moto X wins even on 1080p (offscreen) tests, and side by side tests show the moto x preforming faster in apps than both the s4 and the htc one. So regardless of the paper specs, it is on par with those phones, which is who it is targeted against at I might add. (http://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Moto-X-review.003.png)
Then you add in the Sensor chip and the NLP chip, and stacked battery and you have a device that outperforms all of its peers, gets better battery life, and offers more always on features than all of its peers. You don't think that is cutting edge because it is a "dual core"? Marketing has gotten to your brain =x
EDIT - To be clear, I know the snapdragon 800 is the new bad boy on the block, but I argue that a change in the way people use their phone in a positive manner is more innovative than a linear bump in specs. Besides, the X came out before them and is a platform launch device.
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Actually, the number of cores and resolution mean nothing in terms of "cutting edge". You can throw spec sheets all you want, but real world 720p vs 1080p is a **** measuring contest. we're talking about a 5 inch device here, pixel density to the naked eye for the average person maxes out at like 280ppi, you cant see individual pixels in the moto x, just like you couldnt see them in the galaxy nexus or the s3/s4. That being said, the moto X has a full RBG pixel sublayout, which is lacking in nearly every other display on the market - Furthermore, it uses significantly less power than other displays on the market. (http://www.forbes.com/sites/parmyol...ive-than-the-new-iphone-researchers-think-so/)
as for the processor. I'm going to give you an analogy to the PC market. AMD produces high core CPU's (6 and 8) which are far less innovative or cutting edge than intels quad core CPU's. Poopx8 is still poop. The dual core chips in the moto X are Krait 300 chips paired with an Adreno 320. This is the same snapdragon 600 that you find in the nexus 7 2013 and the s4/HTC one. In graphics benchmarks, the moto X wins even on 1080p (offscreen) tests, and side by side tests show the moto x preforming faster in apps than both the s4 and the htc one. So regardless of the paper specs, it is on par with those phones, which is who it is targeted against at I might add. (http://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Moto-X-review.003.png)
Then you add in the Sensor chip and the NLP chip, and stacked battery and you have a device that outperforms all of its peers, gets better battery life, and offers more always on features than all of its peers. You don't think that is cutting edge because it is a "dual core"? Marketing has gotten to your brain =x
EDIT - To be clear, I know the snapdragon 800 is the new bad boy on the block, but I argue that a change in the way people use their phone in a positive manner is more innovative than a linear bump in specs. Besides, the X came out before them and is a platform launch device.
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Seriously! Cutting edge isn't always about numbers and theoretical performance. We live in a day where we have reached a soft cap in how raw "power" can be utilized...
Innovation and advance isn't about making something load an app 3 milliseconds faster, but rather, change how we interact with that technology on a daily basis... This phone has met the new demand for innovation, it has clearly changed the landscape of user/device interaction... Not to mention, that it is as fast and has the battery life of any of the "power house" phones on the market...
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I cracked the back on my N4 today, and with all the new about the Moto X does anyone think it's worth me waiting to grab one from the Play store when they release that version? Or should I just get another N4? I haven't found any comparison benchmarks.
I just posted my thoughts on this in the other thread so I might as well share it with you:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=44190983&postcount=25
knitler said:
I cracked the back on my N4 today, and with all the new about the Moto X does anyone think it's worth me waiting to grab one from the Play store when they release that version? Or should I just get another N4? I haven't found any comparison benchmarks.
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Is the front glass broke as well? If not I would just order the back cover and replace it. If you do make sure you order one with the NFC antenna if that is a must for you.
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I just posted my thoughts on this in the other thread so I might as well share it with you:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=44190983&postcount=25
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I had seem some references in my RSS feeds that it wouldn't be available in the Play store sometime soon. Ars suspects that it will be 2-300 from the Store as well.
If I had a good, non-broken, Nexus I wouldn't think about changing. I'm only looking because I need to purchase a phone anyway.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Motorola-Moto-X-specs-review_id45958
Needs 1080 screen
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Is the front glass broke as well? If not I would just order the back cover and replace it. If you do make sure you order one with the NFC antenna if that is a must for you.
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No but the crack goes down the housing along the bottom too. I was at a client and leaned over a wall forgetting it was in my shirt pocket. I'm lucky it didn't totally shatter when it fell.
I'm quite interested in how they rewrote the entire Linux base to run natively on the ARM instruction set. We may see unprecedented improvement in the delay in touch response that is seen on every Android device to date.
The voice recognition also seems like a massive push, even on the hardware side. I hope that can come to the Nexus 4, but I'm worried for battery life on that front. The X doesn't have the most powerful main SoC, but it looks like it will be a solid performer.
Not that I don't love the Nexus 4. I also love new contenders!
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CWalkop said:
I'm quite interested in how they rewrote the entire Linux base to run natively on the ARM instruction set. We may see unprecedented improvement in the delay in touch response that is seen on every Android device to date.
The voice recognition also seems like a massive push, even on the hardware side. I hope that can come to the Nexus 4, but I'm worried for battery life on that front. The X doesn't have the most powerful main SoC, but it looks like it will be a solid performer.
Not that I don't love the Nexus 4. I also love new contenders!
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Well with the other cores in the computing system dedicated to voice commands and sensors won't that alleviate the s4 to perform more efficiently?
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Well with the other cores in the computing system dedicated to voice commands and sensors won't that alleviate the s4 to perform more efficiently?
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It should let the S4 sit at idle for longer periods of time.
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Well with the other cores in the computing system dedicated to voice commands and sensors won't that alleviate the s4 to perform more efficiently?
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Exactly my thoughts. Which is mainly why I thought that it would remain a solid performer. With all the other cores dedicated to performing other tasks, the S4 should be able to do main computing tasks quite fast. It remains to be seen how powerful that GPU is, however. But with all that optimization, though, it should provide an awesome experience!
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I have to say that the Nexus 4 takes it just because of the price. The moto X is awesome but I would have hoped for it to be available sooner and more affordable but I totally understand the pricing. After all Motorola is still an OEM just like Samsung and LG and HTC, the difference is they are owned by google now ( no pun intended). Since they are still an OEM they must release phones just like any other OEM and that is via carriers unlike the nexus devices.
Honestly? I think Moto X is waaaaay cooler than Nexus 4...
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Honestly? I think Moto X is waaaaay cooler than Nexus 4...
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It's also moto and vzw. No thank you.
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Marcb said:
Honestly? I think Moto X is waaaaay cooler than Nexus 4...
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Yes its cooler but is it 300$ more cooler than the N4? I don't think so... ( the off contract price is 575$ - 625$ depending of storage)
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XxLostSoulxX said:
It's also moto and vzw. No thank you.
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Not only VZW, all major US carriers.
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Yes its cooler but is it 300$ more cooler than the N4? I don't think so... ( the off contract price is 575$ - 625$ depending of storage)
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Yeah, I know... i'm not talking about price point here... And Moto said it would be sold in Play Store as a "Play Edition" device... so i'm expecting something like USD 499 or USD 599...
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Yeah, I know... i'm not talking about price point here... And Moto said it would be sold in Play Store as a "Play Edition" device... so i'm expecting something like USD 499 or USD 599...
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Yes a play store version will be available but I doubt it'll be customizable like the regular version, also t probably wont have the features the regular one has.
In theory it shouldn't have the same features if it becomes one of the "pure" devices, because it will be "pure android" so unless they push the features that it has like voice activation over to the 4.3 stream it shouldn't have them. That would be a big setback as far as I'm concerned it's a very nicely designed device and I like the customization, but there is a reason why we have N4s and not Samsung Galaxys.
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In theory it shouldn't have the same features if it becomes one of the "pure" devices, because it will be "pure android" so unless they push the features that it has like voice activation over to the 4.3 stream it shouldn't have them. That would be a big setback as far as I'm concerned it's a very nicely designed device and I like the customization, but there is a reason why we have N4s and not Samsung Galaxys.
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They could just push an update to Google Search (Google Now) to support the new chip on the Moto X, responsible for the voice commands...
I'm disappointed at the price but in terms of raw power, the 2 krait 300 cores in x should be close to the performance of the n4. That means it also gets ddr3 ram etc. Im not a real big amoled fan but the partial off screen notifications... If its truly off unlike the galaxy nexus screen, it should be nice. Time will tell. When will someone actually review this thing?
The biggest thing I care about is performance to battery ratio. I underclock and try to optimize most of my devices. My nexus 4 runs Trinity kernel in dual core mode and only 1024 MHz most of the time because not much needs the whole enchilada of power with the bandwidth of these new phones and loads of ram. It seems like moto is trying to go the apple route with usability and long battery life etc. 6 hours on screen out of the box with very little drain should be the goal of all these phones when on mobile data.
They are probably shooting themselves in the foot though delaying the 32gb version outside of att. The whole hype of customization and all those links to lock it down on one carrier. Pretty foolish when you think of their exclusivity of good phones with Verizon in the past contributed to their decline.
Mildly disappointed but still holding out hope till the first real reviews come out.
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There's already a Moto X thread which is borderline off topic. The mark manning Nexus 4 vs Any other phone thread is probably where this discussion should take place.
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I am. I have high hopes for it. Whether or not it gets good support like the AHD is TBD. Hopefully it at least gets ROOT
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I'd consider getting it second hand in 6 months + if it had SD support. For me, spec wise, AHD is all I really need in a phone. Next phone I get will be something like an AHD with a keyboard.
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I've noticed that as smart phones became better and better, the amount of phones with keyboards decreased. Me thinks they don't make many now-a-days because most people wouldn't have a need for a netbook or a laptop if a phone as powerful and big as the AHD had a keyboard.
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I'd consider getting it second hand in 6 months + if it had SD support. For me, spec wise, AHD is all I really need in a phone. Next phone I get will be something like an AHD with a keyboard.
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I've noticed that as smart phones became better and better, the amount of phones with keyboards decreased. Me thinks they don't make many now-a-days because most people wouldn't have a need for a netbook or a laptop if a phone as powerful and big as the AHD had a keyboard.
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I completely agree about the SD slot.
Also, the Photon Q is kinda like an AHD with a keyboard.
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I'd consider getting it second hand in 6 months + if it had SD support. For me, spec wise, AHD is all I really need in a phone.
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What are your thoughts about support and development for the moto x? I wonder if root will be easily obtained...
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Definitely will not purchase Motorola X. While Motorola phones Have very good build quality. I believe the hardware to be subpar compared to samsung and htc. The motoblur Interface on Atrix HD is a big improvement over that of Atrix 4g. which is a big step in the right direction . However Motorola has with both phones shown that it does not support updates as well as its competitors. for example atrix 4g support ended at android 2.3.6 and atrix Hd support ended at android 4.1.1. Add to this that Motorola Locks Bootloaders Making customization difficult . NO THANKS!
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What are your thoughts about support and development for the moto x? I wonder if root will be easily obtained...
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Depends on the bootloader status. If unlockable, then it will pick up really fast...if not, probably similar to us or the Defy -- depends on how easy it will be to root. Even locked, if its rooted there's a good chance it'll run ports of our roms.
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Definitely will not purchase Motorola X. While Motorola phones Have very good build quality. I believe the hardware to be subpar compared to samsung and htc. The motoblur Interface on Atrix HD is a big improvement over that of Atrix 4g. which is a big step in the right direction . However Motorola has with both phones shown that it does not support updates as well as its competitors. for example atrix 4g support ended at android 2.3.6 and atrix Hd support ended at android 4.1.1. Add to this that Motorola Locks Bootloaders Making customization difficult . NO THANKS!
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Agreed. Though hardware is a moot point since most apps hardly support dual core, let alone quad and otca core phones. With Moto I don't even consider OEM support as a factor since I expect it to be next to nothing from the start. Moto releases OS updates as new devices.... My next phone will probably be HTC or Sony -- both have good OEM features, OEM support, and community support. I'm leaning towards Sony, only because I've never once bought a bad Sony product or had a Sony product break or go bad that wasn't directly related to me abusing the hell out of it.....usually because I drop them.
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Agreed. Though hardware is a moot point since most apps hardly support dual core, let alone quad and otca core phones. With Moto I don't even consider OEM support as a factor since I expect it to be next to nothing from the start. Moto releases OS updates as new devices.... My next phone will probably be HTC or Sony -- both have good OEM features, OEM support, and community support. I'm leaning towards Sony, only because I've never once bought a bad Sony product or had a Sony product break or go bad that wasn't directly related to me abusing the hell out of it.....usually because I drop them.
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Which Sony phone are you looking at getting?
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nokia lumia1020 and MOTO Droid Ultra mini，but the moto Droid Ultra is too expensive while the hardware is not the best。
I have to say the moto X is ugly。。。
I do not like the design，especially the earpieces and the microphone。
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I dunno. Whatever Sony has next year that I can afford when I decide to upgrade the AHD.
I'm really interested in the Moto X. I like the look of some of the feature, notifications and active mic. My next upgrade is in Feb, so I'll make a decision at that time. However, I have heard rumor of a Moto Nexus coming (that was the leak rumor last week), if that is true, I may go for that off contract. I know everybody has different opinions on hardware and specs, but the Atrix HD is my 7th Moto phone (2nd android based), and outside of one poor flip phone, they have all been top notch.
I agree with skeevy theory...
as time pass,and android being better each by each year
The company's have been excluding sliding keyboards
I remember when the Samsung epic 4g came out I was thrilled to see a good phone for fast texting and typing emails
As I prefer a phone like the AHD with a sliding keyboard regardless of thickness of the phone
Not much of a big deal
Just like old non-android LG xenon
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Probably a Sony phone as long as they keep micro SD. That feature being implemented or not is very telling about a companies true understanding of it's users. I prefer companies that allow storage expansion.
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I would buy a moto X...I think what google is trying to prove is that one dont need high end spec'ed phone to get good phone experience. Moto X will be a good buy in 6 months...
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I would buy a moto X...I think what google is trying to prove is that one dont need high end spec'ed phone to get good phone experience. Moto X will be a good buy in 6 months...
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I've been up for a upgrade for a few months now. I'm going to take it and hope for some good development.
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I've been up for a upgrade for a few months now. I'm going to take it and hope for some good development.
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Provided you can unlock the X's boot loader, then it'll probably be on par with us in no time at all. If locked, it might run ports of our roms if it is rooted and a rom flash method like SafeStrap is made.
If I were considering getting one, I'd wait a week to a month to see what's up with it, its quirks, and how much the community will support it.
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Agreed. Though I think X is a mass beta program designed to test out new features for the Nexus line -- the low power cpu cores for always on microphone, the active display. Still, no SD = no Buy. As is, I haven't been able to use any cell radio internet for 3 weeks because I'm 50MB away from overage charges. Until phones either come with 64GB+ or the Phone Companies up the allotted bandwidth to at least 10GB a month, then external storage will still be necessary. The "Cloud" is useless with current Data Plans and 16-32GB isn't that much storage, especially once you start to consider Nandroids, Titanium Backups, music, a movie or three for a long trip, other roms, pictures, and the list goes on and on.
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the Atrix HD is my 7th Moto phone (2nd android based), and outside of one poor flip phone, they have all been top notch.
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my 6th moto (cliq, q9h, v80, slvr, c139 prior) and I too agree with build quality, up there with Nokia for me.
I've also owned about 4 blackberry devices before going android and the build quality and reliability was anywhere from terrible to average.
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Still, no SD = no Buy.
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Vote with your dollar! My feelings exactly. I give Samsung their props for continuing support for SDs and giving consumers what they want (incl. removable battery) Seems like everyone these days is going the other route.
Locked storage capacity + free cloud storage, it's all "politics" from my POV really and I'm not going to support it.
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Agreed. Though I think X is a mass beta program designed to test out new features for the Nexus line -- the low power cpu cores for always on microphone, the active display. Still, no SD = no Buy. As is, I haven't been able to use any cell radio internet for 3 weeks because I'm 50MB away from overage charges. Until phones either come with 64GB+ or the Phone Companies up the allotted bandwidth to at least 10GB a month, then external storage will still be necessary. The "Cloud" is useless with current Data Plans and 16-32GB isn't that much storage, especially once you start to consider Nandroids, Titanium Backups, music, a movie or three for a long trip, other roms, pictures, and the list goes on and on.
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I agree that no SD is a big drawback...but cloud is one of the reason why google phones do not have SD. Only nexus 1 was the only nexus phone with a SD card i think! Well,,,thats the way google goes....i dont know if we have any say to it...unless samsung comes up with its own OS...
I was hopeful for the motorola x but after looking the specs and the fact that doesn't have a external SD I am thinking the Sony honami is my next phone.
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I was hopeful for the motorola x but after looking the specs and the fact that doesn't have a external SD I am thinking the Sony honami is my next phone.
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I try to not get too caught up in the spec war. Look at crapple.....as much as it pains me to say this, they have low specs but they do an excellent job with optimization. So well that they can keep up with some of the new flagship phones.
I think the motoX will deliver a great user experience. And that's what it's all about. I'm not too fond of the no SD card.
I'll still be getting the 32gb model.
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Since more people already have the Moto X , Im wondering have anyone played with the LG G2.. Im contemplating between the two on which one I should get...
Tough choice. I am going to compare them together on Friday. The moto x is really sweet though.
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LG G2. Everybody here on the Moto X forums will tell you that. We all hate our phones.
I will be there Friday to play also, if not just to get an idea of the next Nexus hardware. I have to say though, the X is the best out of the box experience I have ever had.
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I will be there Friday to play also, if not just to get an idea of the next Nexus hardware. I have to say though, the X is the best out of the box experience I have ever had.
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Im def going to play with the LG G2 as well, and see... I figured I would ask since a lot of people have already got their hands on the Moto X for more than a week...
Don't sweat it. Some people around here are stressing over root, kind of has the whole Moto X board being mean . Either way, I have a really hard time believing that the LG g2 will be able to outpace this phone. It really sounds crazy but in telling you this phone is something else.
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Easy choice for me. I'm done with shiny plastic and really ugly ui
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Don't sweat it. Some people around here are stressing over root, kind of has the whole Moto X board being mean . Either way, I have a really hard time believing that the LG g2 will be able to outpace this phone. It really sounds crazy but in telling you this phone is something else.
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Do you or anyone have an opinion regarding the Moto X as a device to get over the HTC One or Note 2?
Depends what you want. Basically stock Android, great speed, good form factor = Moto X. You want higher specs for some reason, you enjoy the G2's design with buttons on the back, and the size of the device, get the G2.
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Do you or anyone have an opinion regarding the Moto X as a device to get over the HTC One or Note 2?
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The note, in my opinion is just too big, and I hate touchwiz. The one is a nice phone, the Google Edition is way better in my opinion. I like AOSP, not a fan of skinning, at all. The MOTOROLA X is really a great phone straight out of the box.
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Depends what you want. Basically stock Android, great speed, good form factor = Moto X. You want higher specs for some reason, you enjoy the G2's design with buttons on the back, and the size of the device, get the G2.
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I would like to give the Moto X a try because of the stock look and that the size is not too big or small. The specs do open up my eyes on the G2 and if I decide on that I could always switch to a different launcher. This is a tough decision.
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The note, in my opinion is just too big, and I hate touchwiz. The one is a nice phone, the Google Edition is way better in my opinion. I like AOSP, not a fan of skinning, at all. The MOTOROLA X is really a great phone straight out of the box.
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I utilize the Note for business because, the S-Pen allows me to do some things when I'm out recruiting. But, I've used the iPhone 5 at times as my daily driver and want to switch totally to android.
I'd check out more reviews of the G2 then. Personally, I'm not sure what higher specs bring, which is the point of the Moto X. Other high spec phones provide nothing substantially better. Some lag even right out of the box, sacrifice battery life, or provide no real higher terms of performance in terms of gaming.
These aren't actual computers, despite what they do. People aren't running AutoCAD and need an i7 processor. Why these high specs other than ego boosts, I don't know. I'd maybe assess WHY you want the G2's specs. What purpose are they actually serving you? The Moto X and its "inferior" specs runs 100% smooth out of the box, has high gaming performance, and great battery life.
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I'd check out more reviews of the G2 then. Personally, I'm not sure what higher specs bring, which is the point of the Moto X. Other high spec phones provide nothing substantially better. Some lag even right out of the box, sacrifice battery life, or provide no real higher terms of performance in terms of gaming.
These aren't actual computers, despite what they do. People aren't running AutoCAD and need an i7 processor. Why these high specs other than ego boosts, I don't know. I'd maybe assess WHY you want the G2's specs. What purpose are they actually serving you? The Moto X and its "inferior" specs runs 100% smooth out of the box, has high gaming performance, and great battery life.
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I'm just thinking it will allow me to run my apps more efficiently and quicker. I've been using iOS (iPhone 5) as my daily driver and the Note 2 for business because I'm a coach. I want to move to android totally and from what your saying the Moto X will be the way to go.
I've had it for 1 week today, and it's been faster than I expected. I'm coming from a Verizon Samsung Galaxy S3 and this is light years better. Stock S3, Touchwiz was too annoying for me. Pulling down the notification bar and having the quick toggles scroll each time (thanks!), to just the useless features, it was annoying. I installed different ROMs, which I guess is fine, but eventually they'd need to be updated. That's more time I have to take to back things up, wipe everything, flash, and restore. I might be nitpicking, but it's still an annoyance. Not to mention that many of these ROMs have glitches, no matter how popular they are: AOSP camera problems, GPS locking issues, etc.
I've had 0 problems with the Moto X after 1 week. The screen PPI is the same as the S3, but looks way better since it's not pentile. To me, it seems not only brighter and more vivid, but just less "blah." I much prefer Android's customization over iOS, but that's a personal preference. Maybe check out a local store to play with the Moto X. Doesn't have to be your carrier, since I'm not sure if VZW stores have it in yet, but AT&T sure does.
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I'd check out more reviews of the G2 then. Personally, I'm not sure what higher specs bring, which is the point of the Moto X. Other high spec phones provide nothing substantially better. Some lag even right out of the box, sacrifice battery life, or provide no real higher terms of performance in terms of gaming.
These aren't actual computers, despite what they do. People aren't running AutoCAD and need an i7 processor. Why these high specs other than ego boosts, I don't know. I'd maybe assess WHY you want the G2's specs. What purpose are they actually serving you? The Moto X and its "inferior" specs runs 100% smooth out of the box, has high gaming performance, and great battery life.
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Android phones have "better" specs than any other OS because it lacks optimization. I'm not saying Android is bad but the more platforms you run a OS on the more raw power you need to push it. With all these different resolutions, cpu, gpu, ram ect it makes it impossible to optimize beyond a certain point. That's why iPhone, blackberry, and Windows phone all run so smooth.... All the phones that run their OSs have almost identical specs. Now the Moto X is more optimized so can run amazing with lower specs which is awesome, but the downside is you could possibly wait a lot longer for any updates because of all the special things going on behind the scenes that they need to tweak from the AOSP.
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I'm definitely going to check it out because I think it's time to step away from iOS. It may take getting use to, but I'm sure I'll managing. Your info has been very helpful. I do a lot of group texting to my players. Is that available in the stock app?
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I'm learning some new things here, but as I stated before I will definitely go into Verizon today and check out the Moto X.
It is, just used it last night
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I'm just thinking it will allow me to run my apps more efficiently and quicker. I've been using iOS (iPhone 5) as my daily driver and the Note 2 for business because I'm a coach. I want to move to android totally and from what your saying the Moto X will be the way to go.
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if you look at reviews of the X vs htc one gs4 or other phones the x runs apps often faster. As many have said previously, specs aren't the big deciding faster on whether a phone runs faster with apps or many things.
here is a short youtube video showing benchmark of HTC one and then running apps comparison. Both phones are bery similar even though HTC one has far superior specs and benchmarks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmU7YKoC5Is
Why on earth would you want the buttons on the back of your phone (G2)? I don't understand how that idea even left the boardroom.
Well, I finally went and played with the LG G2 and I think I will go with the Moto X if and when verizon comes out with the 32gb...
My reasons:
1. Its way to much to change on the LG G2 once you root it
a.bloatware, notification menu,buttons that does the same thing that comes stock with the phone,the buttons are def awkward on the back
a.Moto X comes pretty much perfect.
2. Verizon murdered this device with bloat over 10
3. Camera on the Moto X is inferrior but geez over 85% of cell phone users arent professional photographers
4. Every LG G2 is different as well, especially the verizon version which tells me the updates will not come in a timely manner(opinion not fact)
Would you switch when N5 comes out?
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Would you switch when N5 comes out?
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You can ask this question about any new device that comes out. Would you upgrade from your current phone to a newer phone? And my answer is that if your current phone does everything you need it to, then there's no point in upgrading.
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If there was no point. Then no one ever would. Most phones now a days do everything one needs it's about want when upgrading
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Would you switch when N5 comes out?
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N5 pros over MotoX
- colourful LED notifications
- strong dev community
- processor
Moto X pros over N5
- everything else
So unless those few things bother you, just stick with the Moto X
If the Nexus 5 releases with a larger battery option I will be all over it.
If it has the same size battery as the moto x I will not be picking it up.
This phone has me absolutely addicted to all day battery life.
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N5 probably won't be on Verizon at the $400 price point. But I would be all over it on a gsm carrier.
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I'm getting the N5 the moment it's out. That doesn't mean I'm switching though. The Moto X will likely remain my primary phone. I just like wasting my money on things I don't need.
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I'm getting the N5 the moment it's out. That doesn't mean I'm switching though. The Moto X will likely remain my primary phone. I just like wasting my money on things I don't need.
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And I thought I was the only one that did that. LoL
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I was stuck between these two but this no long delay and the amazing reviews of the moto x by everyone has made me lean heavily this direction now to decide between the tmibile version or the developer lol
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Moto X pros over N5
- everything else
So unless those few things bother you, just stick with the Moto X
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Lol what? And the fact that by the time the Nexus 5 comes out the Moto X will be two android releases behind? Also the speculated always listening on the Nexus 5 as well the X doesn't have much over it.
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Why do you assume that's how it will be. I am willing to bet on it the X will receive 4.4 and skip 4.3
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Lol what? And the fact that by the time the Nexus 5 comes out the Moto X will be two android releases behind? Also the speculated always listening on the Nexus 5 as well the X doesn't have much over it.
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Am I the only person here who couldn't care less about what version of android the X gets updated to? The phone is perfect as is. I bought it for the features it was advertised to have, and Motorola delivered in spades. From this point on, if it never receives another update, I will still be just as happy with it.
Switching seems a bit crazy, but if I didn't already own the Moto X and wasn't majorly dissapointed with my Nexus 7, then yeah, I'd probably go for the Nexus 5, since I think it looks nice and its cheaper. Either way, I already own the Moto X and I'm very happy with it.
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N5 pros over MotoX
- colourful LED notifications
- strong dev community
- processor
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- everything else
So unless those few things bother you, just stick with the Moto X
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1) Moto X got rid of the LED notifications because they're using active notifications which are more helpful.
2) Yes that may be true
3) Processors aren't everything but fine.
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Am I the only person here who couldn't care less about what version of android the X gets updated to? The phone is perfect as is. I bought it for the features it was advertised to have, and Motorola delivered in spades. From this point on, if it never receives another update, I will still be just as happy with it.
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I agree. 4.3 was an incremental update and 4.4 barely more than that. On this device I doubt either update will really make much of a difference... Not that I don't want them, it just doesn't seem important when the phone runs spectacularly as it is. That's the same reason I don't care about the lack of development.
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1) Moto X got rid of the LED notifications because they're using active notifications which are more helpful.
2) Yes that may be true
3) Processors aren't everything but fine.
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Yes, processors aren't everything but the N5 with out a doubt has a better CPU and GPU and will have a better dev community which will lead to a better working phone. Active notifications are awesome but only if you're near your phone. If your phone is charging on a desk a couple of meters away from you and you hear it vibrate how will active notification tell you what happened?
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I agree. 4.3 was an incremental update and 4.4 barely more than that. On this device I doubt either update will really make much of a difference... Not that I don't want them, it just doesn't seem important when the phone runs spectacularly as it is. That's the same reason I don't care about the lack of development.
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Yep, no development doesn't bother me either. I have root and xposed framework. Don't need anything else. If ever a phone came with perfect software out of the box, it's the Moto X.
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Yes, processors aren't everything but the N5 with out a doubt has a better CPU and GPU and will have a better dev community which will lead to a better working phone. Active notifications are awesome but only if you're near your phone. If your phone is charging on a desk a couple of meters away from you and you hear it vibrate how will active notification tell you what happened?
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It still flashes on screen every few seconds if you have a new text, email, missed call, etc. The only time this feature auto shuts off to my knowledge is at night (configurable) and when the phone is in your pocket or face down.
Besides all that, I'm sure the N5 will be a great phone with great support, however the chances of it coming to Verizon are slim to none so its not even an option for a lot of us.
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It still flashes on screen every few seconds if you have a new text, email, missed call, etc. The only time this feature auto shuts off to my knowledge is at night (configurable) and when the phone is in your pocket or face down.
Besides all that, I'm sure the N5 will be a great phone with great support, however the chances of it coming to Verizon are slim to none so its not even an option for a lot of us.
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You wont be able to tell what it is. With an RGB LED you can set different colours to represent different types of notifications.
Anyway, I keep hearing everyone say Verizon has terrible phone options. What's so special about Verizon that you guys stay (I'm from Canada)?
Verizon has the best signal, but has a soviet union business model and is expensive. However it works everywhere. Only reason I stay is cause I use my phone for business. My bonus is sticking 20+ gigs to them every month
Would you trade your 16gb x for a 32gb HTC one? Why or why not
I'm not sure which is better and if I should take the HTC. I haven't opened the x yet
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Would you trade your 16gb x for a 32gb HTC one? Why or why not
I'm not sure which is better and if I should take the HTC. I haven't opened the x yet
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given HTC's track record, the sheer size of the phone and the HTC skin, personally i wouldn't. have you played with one yet? have you played with an X?
i don't understand why people buy anything (let alone phones) without knowing that's the choice they want. i can understand remorse after the latest/greatest, etc., etc., blah blah, but if you've done any research, would that have swayed your decision to start? did you want a One, but couldn't afford it? Did someone hand you an X? are there specs/features on the One you wish the X had that's causing your decision?
I won the x, I didn't buy it.
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I won the x, I didn't buy it.
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and there you have it.
i think the X is a great phone. if someone wants to trade their used One for your brand new X, you should be asking yourself why.
also, if you don't want the X, you can sell it online and get whatever phone you want for full retail.
Hey, ive got a one. I would say if youre more music/want some more rapid dev, go for the one. If you dont want sense, thats cool, just flip to GPe and youre good. Theres an abundance of kernels, ROMs, and just all around great Dev for it. Its already rolling out unofficial 4.4.2. My advice is get the AT&T because thats the dev one.
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If you dont mind me asking, how much would you be willing to sell the X for? I know i can get one for $75 at costco, for the 16gb all black, but id be willing to set up some kind of reasonable deal for more or something, if youd be willing to sell. Since you can buy a One for i think $50 (or something last time i saw at the mall) youd still make a profit no matter what. And get that new phone
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Hey, ive got a one. I would say if youre more music/want some more rapid dev, go for the one. If you dont want sense, thats cool, just flip to GPe and youre good. Theres an abundance of kernels, ROMs, and just all around great Dev for it. Its already rolling out unofficial 4.4.2. My advice is get the AT&T because thats the dev one.
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If you dont mind me asking, how much would you be willing to sell the X for? I know i can get one for $75 at costco, for the 16gb all black, but id be willing to set up some kind of reasonable deal for more or something, if youd be willing to sell. Since you can buy a One for i think $50 (or something last time i saw at the mall) youd still make a profit no matter what. And get that new phone
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just remember, you're talking subsidized, locked contract pricing. OP can sell his X for full retail on eBay or Swappa or something similar.
I have both, and this is what I would say:
I prefer the Moto X as a day to day device overall, though you really can't go wrong with either device. The Moto X excels at being a very useful handset that has features I genuinely use all the time. Active Notifications is the best thing since sliced bread, especially if you use your device for work. It really helps you triage items you need to address quickly, at a glance. The voice activation is also great if you do a lot of driving and can't be holding your device (which is against the law where I live).
The other item worth noting is that the size difference is pretty big. The Moto X is a very, very compact device for its screen size, and is the more easily pocketable of the two, and much easier to use one handed. The One is actually quite big for the screen size it has, though it still rests nicely in the hand. And of course the One is just gorgeous as a device, the aluminum casing is stunning.
Where the One really shines is as a media device. The screen is absolutely gorgeous, probably the best on a mobile device today. The speakers are also amazing, with great volume and clear sound. I like the screen on the Moto X despite the lower resolution (I like amoled screens a lot), and the difference in quality isn't as pronounced unless you are directly comparing them, but the One is clearly in a league of its own here.
Basically, it comes down to what you value and what you plan on doing with your device. If you are looking at more of a day to day tool that has great features that help productivity in a nice compact package, stick with the Moto X.
If you are looking at something more for fun, videos, games and music, and don't mind the extra size, the One may be the better choice.
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just remember, you're talking subsidized, locked contract pricing. OP can sell his X for full retail on eBay or Swappa or something similar.
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Didnt think of that. Entirely true. For some reasonni assumed he was talking about one for a specific carrier, i dont know why.
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I have both, and this is what I would say:
I prefer the Moto X as a day to day device overall, though you really can't go wrong with either device. The Moto X excels at being a very useful handset that has features I genuinely use all the time. Active Notifications is the best thing since sliced bread, especially if you use your device for work. It really helps you triage items you need to address quickly, at a glance. The voice activation is also great if you do a lot of driving and can't be holding your device (which is against the law where I live).
The other item worth noting is that the size difference is pretty big. The Moto X is a very, very compact device for its screen size, and is the more easily pocketable of the two, and much easier to use one handed. The One is actually quite big for the screen size it has, though it still rests nicely in the hand. And of course the One is just gorgeous as a device, the aluminum casing is stunning.
Where the One really shines is as a media device. The screen is absolutely gorgeous, probably the best on a mobile device today. The speakers are also amazing, with great volume and clear sound. I like the screen on the Moto X despite the lower resolution (I like amoled screens a lot), and the difference in quality isn't as pronounced unless you are directly comparing them, but the One is clearly in a league of its own here.
Basically, it comes down to what you value and what you plan on doing with your device. If you are looking at more of a day to day tool that has great features that help productivity in a nice compact package, stick with the Moto X.
If you are looking at something more for fun, videos, games and music, and don't mind the extra size, the One may be the better choice.
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What is your opinion on the difference between camera and battery life?
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What is your opinion on the difference between camera and battery life?
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I am not a shutterbug, so take anything I say in regards to camera with a grain of salt. My opinion is that the Moto X takes better daytime pictures and the One takes better low light pictures. Neither one produces anything amazing. The One has Zoe, which is a cool feature that helps you get the perfect shot, while the Moto X has the double wrist flick to start the camera.
If I had to pick a winner it would be the Moto X, for my use, which is just the occasional snapshot at get togethers or when I need to remember something.
Battery life is better on the Moto X in most things. Standby time is better on the Moto X. Video is better on the Moto X. Gaming is better on the Moto X. The One does seem to do better when it comes to network related activity like heavy web surfing or streaming music.
Neither one is a best in class when it comes to battery, but either one will likely get any but the heaviest of user through the day.
I just got an X 2 weeks ago.... And am very happy.
What I did... And my advice to you... Read through the one XDA section thoroughly and the X.... You'll get a good feel for each phones strengths and weaknesses.
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It's tough speaking longevity wise too because the x is 16gb and one is 32
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I changed over from a One to an X and I don't have any regrets (aside from some annoyances with 4.4 but that's a different subject), the X is a fantastic phone. Both have their strengths and weaknesses.
I agree with jellmoo on the camera, the X takes some pretty good pictures in decent lighting, better than the One but the One takes better shots in low light plus it has many more options and settings. The One has the better speakers though the X's speaker is clear and loud as well. The One's screen is very good but I personally prefer the X's OLED; if you value absolute clarity the One's screen is better, if you value color and contrast the X's is better. I personally prefer some of the Sense apps over the X's/Google's/alternatives such as the dialer, SMS, email and the customized Sense browser is far far superior to Chrome in every way. It also has the IR port and TV app plus radio. The X has active notifications which I love, the always listening search, better battery life, stock for all that entails good and bad as well as some useful stuff like Assist. The main reason I got the X over the One is because of its size as well as the fact that the One CANNOT be repaired in any way, once its battery dies it becomes an expensive paperweight which I think HTC should be flogged for personally. I did love my One though.
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I changed over from a One to an X and I don't have any regrets (aside from some annoyances with 4.4 but that's a different subject), the X is a fantastic phone. Both have their strengths and weaknesses.
I agree with jellmoo on the camera, the X takes some pretty good pictures in decent lighting, better than the One but the One takes better shots in low light plus it has many more options and settings. The One has the better speakers though the X's speaker is clear and loud as well. The One's screen is very good but I personally prefer the X's OLED; if you value absolute clarity the One's screen is better, if you value color and contrast the X's is better. I personally prefer some of the Sense apps over the X's/Google's/alternatives such as the dialer, SMS, email and the customized Sense browser is far far superior to Chrome in every way. It also has the IR port and TV app plus radio. The X has active notifications which I love, the always listening search, better battery life, stock for all that entails good and bad as well as some useful stuff like Assist. The main reason I got the X over the One is because of its size as well as the fact that the One CANNOT be repaired in any way, once its battery dies it becomes an expensive paperweight which I think HTC should be flogged for personally. I did love my One though.
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Do you find yourself actually using the Moto features?
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I use active notifications all the time, it's great. I didn't think I would use the always listening but I have quite a bit, it's actually useful especially for doing things like sending SMS messages hands free or setting alarms.
I'm wondering being a dual core, vs the quad of the HTC, if it will be future proof as apps and games will require more power/computing?
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I'm wondering being a dual core, vs the quad of the HTC, if it will be future proof as apps and games will require more power/computing?
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you're fighting an invalid argument. the X has a quad core gpu and a dual core cpu. plus it has dedicated CPUs for other things like listening service and radio. most phones don't have those additional CPUs and rely solely on the dual/quad core to do all of the work.
there is nothing "yesterday" about the X8's SoC design. its the best in its class.
I had the One and now I have the X. There is no contest, the X is the superior device in every regard. The One has a nice albeit cumbersome body, but aside from that it is just another Android phone. The X on the other hand just oozes innovation. From the X8 chip to the in hand feel to the X specific features- everything has a purpose and nothing is arbitrary. It has superior performance and battery life. Games play better. It's faster in normal use, day to day things. In other words there is no way in hell I would make that trade.
And just a little booster here- I also have the Nexus 5 which is ridiculously fast and just destroys the One all across the board- I prefer the X to the N5.
Sent from my Moto X
_MetalHead_ said:
I had the One and now I have the X. There is no contest, the X is the superior device in every regard. The One has a nice albeit cumbersome body, but aside from that it is just another Android phone. The X on the other hand just oozes innovation. From the X8 chip to the in hand feel to the X specific features- everything has a purpose and nothing is arbitrary. It has superior performance and battery life. Games play better. It's faster in normal use, day to day things. In other words there is no way in hell I would make that trade.
And just a little booster here- I also have the Nexus 5 which is ridiculously fast and just destroys the One all across the board- I prefer the X to the N5.
Sent from my Moto X
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I have also owned the three phones you mentioned and prefer the X. The Nexus 5 was quite nice but I like the form factor and battery life of the X more. Short of that, you touched on many things that I agree with completely.