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Any phone announced at CES that destroy the N4?

Like the title says, anyone see anything so far that completely blows away the N4? There are quite a few brands I am not familiar with and am wondering if they take as long to get updates like samsung, htc, etc. If a phone had significantly better specs but also got quickly updated would price be the only advantage the N4 had?

There are no major flagship phones being announced as CES. That really isn't the show for mobile.

What is the show for mobile then? I saw a few from CES that looked like it would be that manufacturers flagship.

Just the Sony Xperia Z. But everyone who's done a comparison with that phone vs Nexus 4 was a little :silly:
I dont think the Xperia Z will get any faster updates than the Nexus 4. It will promise the consumers, but in the end not provide them with the results.
Design looks cool for it. I still prefer the Nexus 4 over that. The camera sensors on Son'y phones aren't that great even pushing 13 megapixels.

The nexus 4 has been murdered by the new krait 400 that is 75% faster and the tegra 4 with 72 GPUs. These me chips make me want to sell this phone.
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kioshi said:
Just the Sony Xperia Z. But everyone who's done a comparison with that phone vs Nexus 4 was a little :silly:
I dont think the Xperia Z will get any faster updates than the Nexus 4. It will promise the consumers, but in the end not provide them with the results.
Design looks cool for it. I still prefer the Nexus 4 over that. The camera sensors on Son'y phones aren't that great even pushing 13 megapixels.
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Sony has botched updates before. The Nexus 4 will definitely get updates first, if the Xperia Z even gets them.
Samsung didn't announce a new phone, I don't even believe HTC is there. Asus may have something.
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Ace42 said:
The nexus 4 has been murdered by the new krait 400 that is 75% faster and the tegra 4 with 72 GPUs. These me chips make me want to sell this phone.
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Current technology will always get murdered by newer technology.
Stick to one and buy the next new thing 1-2 years later.
The Nexus 4 will handle the next 3 updates easily as well as new games.
My Incredible is rocking 4.2.1 rom. Everything works on it, but i use it as a Google Music stream machine and the N4 as a daily phone.
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Sony has botched updates before. The Nexus 4 will definitely get updates first, if the Xperia Z even gets them.
Samsung didn't announce a new phone, I don't even believe HTC is there. Asus may have something.
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True, and they wonder why they are doing bad in the smartphone era. Maybe if they brought some of their high end lineups from Japan to other parts of the world, they'd be able to hold up to Samsung and others.
Asus i think has a new 7in tablet and something else i read.

kioshi said:
Current technology will always get murdered by newer technology.
Stick to one and buy the next new thing 1-2 years later.
The Nexus 4 will handle the next 3 updates easily as well as new games.
My Incredible is rocking 4.2.1 rom. Everything works on it, but i use it as a Google Music stream machine and the N4 as a daily phone.
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I'm planning on upgrading in 2014/15 but the power gap is much larger now than before. Tegra 3 to krait was like 360 to Wii u however s4 to krait 400 is core2duo to i5.
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Ace42 said:
I'm planning on upgrading in 2014/15 but the power gap is much larger now than before. Tegra 3 to krait was like 360 to Wii u however s4 to krait 400 is core2duo to i5.
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thought you were going to upgrade this year haha,
I mean, core2 duo isn't that bad vs i5. I can run all my design applications + 2012 Solidworks application easily.
2014 will be a interesting year for the smartphone wars. Sprint will go away and Softbank will enter US market w/ supposedly 2500mhz band.

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thought you were going to upgrade this year haha,
I mean, core2 duo isn't that bad vs i5. I can run all my design applications + 2012 Solidworks application easily.
2014 will be a interesting year for the smartphone wars. Sprint will go away and Softbank will enter US market w/ supposedly 2500mhz band.
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I love this thing too much to let it go. I much rather get a pc/console for gaming and wait for octocore or little.big phones.
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Ace42 said:
The nexus 4 has been murdered by the new krait 400 that is 75% faster and the tegra 4 with 72 GPUs. These me chips make me want to sell this phone.
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What phone has this chip? Or will? ....
I hate all tegra chips. I doubt the 4 will be anygood either.
Lets not even talk about the lack of games for Andriod. I still aint seen a game thats worth a damn, and none of them are graphically intense.....
But ok we all seem to need 50 core death phones. With fricken lazers on thier back sides.
Muwahahaha

Ace42 said:
I'm planning on upgrading in 2014/15 but the power gap is much larger now than before. Tegra 3 to krait was like 360 to Wii u however s4 to krait 400 is core2duo to i5.
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Wait, what? Are you saying tegra3 to krait is a downgrade?

NoL1m1tZ said:
What is the show for mobile then? I saw a few from CES that looked like it would be that manufacturers flagship.
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The show for mobile is Mobile World Congress scheduled on February 25-28.
Also some large manufacturers can host an individual event for a single flagship release.
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I haven't seen any real phones announced yet, but who cares it'll just be more carrier crap complete with locked bootloaders, outdated versions of android with skins. And the new snapdragons and tegra 4 are beasts but I have a hard time believing at this point you'd actually notice a difference, as everything is literally instant on the nexus 4
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I think I saw an XDA booth at the show?

Cor-master said:
I haven't seen any real phones announced yet, but who cares it'll just be more carrier crap complete with locked bootloaders, outdated versions of android with skins. And the new snapdragons and tegra 4 are beasts but I have a hard time believing at this point you'd actually notice a difference, as everything is literally instant on the nexus 4
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:silly: that's why you buy it unlocked instead of buying a branded carrier locked model

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:silly: that's why you buy it unlocked instead of buying a branded carrier locked model
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Not in the states. At least not for a reasonable price.
At any rate for any real good phone ever get announced at CES? Usually ces guarentees a bust. The xperia ion was a big phone at CES last year, but by the time it came out, it was old news and much weaker than the competition. IMO the best phones come out in the second half of the year, the filler crap gets announced at CES
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They did announce a phone with some sandpaper taped to its back.
Word on the street is it has the potential to destroy the N4.

Factor in price and constant updates and I don't think anything comes close. A faster processor and other things like that are less important.
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jmcsk8 said:
They did announce a phone with some sandpaper taped to its back.
Word on the street is it has the potential to destroy the N4.
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He he he
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Nexus 4 Backlash

I'm really not understanding why so many people dislike the Nexus 4. Is it due to the terrible launch? And why keep comparing it to the Galaxy S3? Vanilla Android and Touchwiz both have their ups and downs. Lack of LTE really shouldnt be an issue unless you are on Verizon. For $350 (including tax of course ) you get a phone with a quadcore processor,Adreno 320 GPU, fully unlocked, and timely updates. Not to mention the amount of money you wiuld save getting a prepaid service no contract.
Sorry if I made a few mistakes. This is my first post in this forum and just received my Nexus 4. Any advice would be helpful for future threads.

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I'm really not understanding why so many people dislike the Nexus 4. Is it due to the terrible launch? And why keep comparing it to the Galaxy S3? Vanilla Android and Touchwiz both have their ups and downs. Lack of LTE really shouldnt be an issue unless you are on Verizon. For $350 (including tax of course ) you get a phone with a quadcore processor,Adreno 320 GPU, fully unlocked, and timely updates. Not to mention the amount of money you wiuld save getting a prepaid service no contract.
Sorry if I made a few mistakes. This is my first post in this forum and just received my Nexus 4. Any advice would be helpful for future threads.
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I don't think you're gonna find anyone who dislikes the Nexus 4 here bro

jlbanks said:
I'm really not understanding why so many people dislike the Nexus 4. Is it due to the terrible launch? And why keep comparing it to the Galaxy S3? Vanilla Android and Touchwiz both have their ups and downs. Lack of LTE really shouldnt be an issue unless you are on Verizon. For $350 (including tax of course ) you get a phone with a quadcore processor,Adreno 320 GPU, fully unlocked, and timely updates. Not to mention the amount of money you wiuld save getting a prepaid service no contract.
Sorry if I made a few mistakes. This is my first post in this forum and just received my Nexus 4. Any advice would be helpful for future threads.
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I have a note 2, gs3, gs2, galaxy nexus, droid RAZR, iPhone 5, and a nexus 4. Guess which one is my favorite? The nexus 4!!
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No not here. I see it in numerous forums and threads. People bash the nexus 4 before they bash the S3. Its being compared to the S4 and that phone hasn't even came out yet!
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I don't know, people like to nitpick. My problem with the Nexus 4 is the same as the Galaxy Nexus I previously owned, its never 100% perfect, even after an RMA, there is still a bit of black light bleeding, a little bit of this, and a little bit of that, my wireless charging orb stopped working, had to RMA that, and so on, the Nexus line to me has always had some flaws in terms of hardware reliability.
That being said, the Nexus 4 is among the most beautiful phones, up there with the high end Xperia phones, and with amazing hardware, so asides from the hardware imperfections that one might encounter if unlucky, its a great phone.
I cannot think of a single phone other than the new Xperia (if aosp) that is coming out that I would trade my Nexus 4 for.

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No not here. I see it in numerous forums and threads. People bash the nexus 4 before they bash the S3. Its being compared to the S4 and that phone hasn't even came out yet!
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People bash it because they don't have it
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People bash it because they don't have it
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you just might be right sir. This is actually my first nexus device. I honestly was really close in getting the S3 until I saw this technological beauty being demoed at a local T-Mobile store. I swear I heard the phone calling my name lol. I immediately forgot all about the S3 and purchased the N4 full price.

Where is this so called backlash at?
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Jealousy is a powerful emotion.
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Well maybe not a backlash, but numerous threads and forums bash the nexus 4 as if Google completely messed up the device. Lack of LTE, lack of storage, glass back (guess they forgot about the "rave" reviews about iPhone 4 hardware), phone isn't thin enough, etc. CNET gave the phone a 3.5 out of 5 while S3 got a 4 out of 5. They gave the Galaxy Nexus a 5 out of 5 and the N4 is a complete upgrade! So a removable battery on Galaxy Nexus makes it perfect?
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Well maybe not a backlash, but numerous threads and forums bash the nexus 4 as if Google completely messed up the device. Lack of LTE, lack of storage, glass back (guess they forgot about the "rave" reviews about iPhone 4 hardware), phone isn't thin enough, etc. CNET gave the phone a 3.5 out of 5 while S3 got a 4 out of 5. They gave the Galaxy Nexus a 5 out of 5 and the N4 is a complete upgrade! So a removable battery on Galaxy Nexus makes it perfect?
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Don't pay attention to ***** ratings.. Nothing but a popularity contest.. Read the conclusions and see if the `cons' are anything you deem a problem. They focused on lack of LTE which is a legit gripe no matter how you spin it and how well HSPA+ works.. It is a technology that is sort expected now a days. But.. Unless it personally affects you.. Then it doesn't matter..
They also focused on calling it "uninspiring" "not expanding the Nexus brand".. That's when I stop taking them seriously.. When reviewers start getting all Martha Stewart on you.. It's time to stop reading.

It is just not flawless: back glass, which can crack in any day, noise from earpiece, non-vibrant screen - these spoil impression from the phone. It is my first nexus devise (I had xperia Ion before it) and I expected much more from it. I still haven't decided which one to sell - Nexus or Ion. Ion is flawless except that hardware quite old.

And that's what makes the difference between the nexus 4 and everything else. It will constantly get updates before any other phone. I can totally understand the glass back being fragile.
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I'm not trying to sound like a fanboy with this being my first nexus device. But honestly where else are you going to find an unlocked top tier phone with high end specs for $300. Put in perspective, a galaxy note 2 costs $299 with a two year contract. That's not even the full price of actual phone which is over $600. Over $600 for a phone that may or may not get Key Lime Pie. The nexus is guaranteed to get it and faster than anybody else.
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Have the thermal throttling issues been resolved since launch?

jlbanks said:
I'm not trying to sound like a fanboy with this being my first nexus device. But honestly where else are you going to find an unlocked top tier phone with high end specs for $300. Put in perspective, a galaxy note 2 costs $299 with a two year contract. That's not even the full price of actual phone which is over $600. Over $600 for a phone that may or may not get Key Lime Pie. The nexus is guaranteed to get it and faster than anybody else.
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For me it doesn't matter how much it costs - I could buy iphone 5, but I don't like iOS. Price is just a good bonus. Having top hardware specs is good, but will not you feel disappointed if your back glass is cracked? And this state of waiting and checking if it is cracked or not... I hate being in situation like this. Maybe in some time I will stop thinking of this. Will not you be disappointed if you had another device with worse specs, but with so much better display?

That's a good question...
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I'm not saying cost should be a factor, but rather value. Look at what u get for such a low cost. I can understand the glass back being an issue. But I'd rather have the back shatter then the display itself. Luckily I have a case. Either way I would be disappointed. But which would really tick u off, shattering a phone $700 or shattering a phone $300?
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jonathanyong said:
Have the thermal throttling issues been resolved since launch?
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I'm not sure as of yet. From what I've read it hasnt been that much of an issue unless you're doing extreme multitasking. So far Ive played Need for Speed Most Wanted while listening to music and it hasnt shut down yet. It does heat up though but not bad enough to shut the entire phone down.

jlbanks said:
But which would really tick u off, shattering a phone $700 or shattering a phone $300?
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I spent 475$ for 16 GB version - that is its price in the UK. And i spent about 100$ for different accessories for it (skins, cases, etc). Maybe if lived in US and bought it for 300 I would have a different opinion

nexus 5 megladon new info.exciting

One of first with snapdragon 800 which the 600 is a whopping 40% faster than our speed leading s4pro.wow. a 16...yes 16 mp camera thats a NIKION!! WOW #2 first phone with ultra hd which is 4 k.insane. and my fav part which ive been waiting for an Oled screen not a boring lcd.woohoo.im so geeked. What about you?

Where did they show that?
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Will of fire said:
Where did they show that?
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They didn't, its a rumor (hopefully a true one lol)
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Noone will put a 4k display to 5" phone, thats plain stupid so this one you may drop.
Snapdragon 800 will be more likely used in tablets, so i also dont expect it to be in next Nexus device , it will most probably will be SD600 like in other top models this year.
Ill bet for 1080P , 5" screen (which is also useless in phone, but everyone got it so Google will also). 2GB of ram (who needs more in a phone?)
No sdcard slot, no removable battery - standard in google phones.
the most major change will be the OS, KLP will most probably be pushed to phones after I/O.
Adam

AdamLange said:
Noone will put a 4k display to 5" phone, thats plain stupid so this one you may drop.
Snapdragon 800 will be more likely used in tablets, so i also dont expect it to be in next Nexus device , it will most probably will be SD600 like in other top models this year.
Ill bet for 1080P , 5" screen (which is also useless in phone, but everyone got it so Google will also). 2GB of ram (who needs more in a phone?)
No sdcard slot, no removable battery - standard in google phones.
the most major change will be the OS, KLP will most probably be pushed to phones after I/O.
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I think its 4k video recording not screen resolution
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Will of fire said:
Where did they show that?
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One of quite a few places. http://www.gottabemobile.com/2013/03/18/lg-megalodon-nexus-5-to-boast-4k-ultra-hd-video-recording/

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I think its 4k video recording not screen resolution
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Of course, thats why its called ultra hd. Dont how i did but sorry if my comment came of meaning screen resolution. Lol

AdamLange said:
Noone will put a 4k display to 5" phone, thats plain stupid so this one you may drop.
Snapdragon 800 will be more likely used in tablets, so i also dont expect it to be in next Nexus device , it will most probably will be SD600 like in other top models this year.
Ill bet for 1080P , 5" screen (which is also useless in phone, but everyone got it so Google will also). 2GB of ram (who needs more in a phone?)
No sdcard slot, no removable battery - standard in google phones.
the most major change will be the OS, KLP will most probably be pushed to phones after I/O.
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4k refers to video its called ultra hd.wow . also....it seems(could of course be wrong) like you dissing or dissmising nexuses?! First are you forgeting price??!! Way below norm.people are and will eventually flock once out of a contract fir a 249$ phone. Second nexus strives now(not the gnex albeit a good phone) to be the top o line device. My lgog which is the n4 brother destroyed the Samsung Galaxy s3 in the way many ways including speed. The lgog is the top scorer stock on quadrant. Yes i know its not everyday use im just making a point. I have contacts at lg(a cousin who is a dev) and all these specs are being seriously considered.(blueprint will be at fed communication soon) and the almost for sure one is the snapdragon 800. So your guess is flawed. Sorry

God I hope the next Nexus isn't amoled. After a year of using the galaxy nexus I was tired of the griany screen and riduclous inaccurate colors. Please use the screen technology from the HTC One!

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God I hope the next Nexus isn't amoled. After a year of using the galaxy nexus I was tired of the griany screen and riduclous inaccurate colors. Please use the screen technology from the HTC One!
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Agreed, I hate oled screens especially with screen burn in on soft keys ugh
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everything sounds great, except the 16mp camera. come on, who the hell needs more megapixels?? we need quality not quantity... time to follow htc's path with the ultrapixel technology. and one other wish: good battery!! it's the biggest problem of smartphones nowadays, especially nexus phones. i have nothing else to wish for. i don't need bigger screen or resolution, better CPU, nor more ram.
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zakoo2 said:
everything sounds great, except the 16mp camera. come on, who the hell needs more megapixels?? we need quality not quantity... time to follow htc's path with the ultrapixel technology. and one other wish: good battery!! it's the biggest problem of smartphones nowadays, especially nexus phones. i have nothing else to wish for. i don't need bigger screen or resolution, better CPU, nor more ram.
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agreed, need to follow HTC's path with ultrapixel camera, looks freaking amazing!

..>Wondering why some lame rumour about a unrelated phone is in the Nexus 4 section....

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What to expect?

So I just picked up a moto x from AT&T and I'm just curious what the realistic expectations for the development community on this phone are.
I'm coming from the DNA which had a decent following but from reading through the forums so far it's hard to tell what I could expect for the moto x.
Ideas?
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cc16177 said:
So I just picked up a moto x from AT&T and I'm just curious what the realistic expectations for the development community on this phone are.
I'm coming from the DNA which had a decent following but from reading through the forums so far it's hard to tell what I could expect for the moto x.
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So far the consensus is: Probably not much developer support, but no one really seems to think the device needs it. Its stock google except for touchless control and active notification, both of which are stellar features.
edit - there are rumors that cyanogenmod is working on a port though

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So far the consensus is: Probably not much developer support, but no one really seems to think the device needs it. Its stock google except for touchless control and active notification, both of which are stellar features.
edit - there are rumors that cyanogenmod is working on a port though
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I have to agree. It looks like the development won't be here because of the specs. It's a shame too because I love this phone and was hoping that a good dev community would get on board. But so far that doesn't look like it is going to happen.

This phone has only been out for a month, the DE version has only been out for a couple of weeks, so wait be patient and we will have custom roms
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Also agree...i dont think there will be any development for ATT version because of locked BL.
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I'm guessing once they drop the price $100 it could get more popular. The fact its on every carrier I think helps. But the locked boot loader on the two biggest us carriers doesn't
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I asked bmc08gt about aokp and this is what I got.
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I'm not sure its due to the "specs", given that they are pretty cutting edge.
I think its more that the time is not worth the RoI

I'm very happy with where the phone is but knowing myself that only usually lasts a month or two.
Was just curious what everyone thought, thanks for the input.
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It would really suck if there isn't much development. Don't know if I could own an android phone without flashing custom roms.
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It would really suck if there isn't much development. Don't know if I could own an android phone without flashing custom roms.
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The only point to flash a custom ROM is to improve on the crappy stock. The moto x is almost perfect. Unless the developer really puts a lot of thought into a ROM for us I'd be willing to bet we'd FUBAR something up when it comes to features. I'd just like a little bit more customization options. Other than that, this phone is as solid as they come.
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The only point to flash a custom ROM is to improve on the crappy stock. The moto x is almost perfect. Unless the developer really puts a lot of thought into a ROM for us I'd be willing to bet we'd FUBAR something up when it comes to features. I'd just like a little bit more customization options. Other than that, this phone is as solid as they come.
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I agree but I do like to customize quite a bit and I hope more customization options come to us. I'd also like a cm rom, an aokp, a paranoid, and a pac man. I'd be quite happy if I saw those represented here!
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I agree but I do like to customize quite a bit and I hope more customization options come to us. I'd also like a cm rom, an aokp, a paranoid, and a pac man. I'd be quite happy if I saw those represented here!
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Well then. I'm with ya there. While we're putting in requests, I want a way to downgrade from the latest upgrade, an unlocked BL, and a money tree. I only see the last one happening with how well Moto locks their stuff down.
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I think this might be the first phone where I don't think I need root or an unlocked bootloader. Now whether or not I want those options is another story.
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luniz7 said:
I think this might be the first phone where I don't think I need root or an unlocked bootloader. Now whether or not I want those options is another story.
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I'm with you, with this phone I can easily see myself staying stock without complaint. Even though there is a root solution, I still passed because the phone worked so well as is.
But I would love to see what developers could do with this phone, but lack of development is not a deal breaker... Can't say that for any other phone I have owned to date. Every other phone, I have rooted and ceaselessly flashed Roms trying to find the "perfect" setup. With the moto x, I powered it on and have been happy ever since. I'm even using the stock keyboard and messenger app... Don't think I've used those since my first android device.
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I can't handle being on a stock AOSP ROM coming from a Neuxs. I hoping we see a Slim Bean type of ROM for the X with all the Moto features included in it. *fingers crossed*
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anotherfiz said:
I'm not sure its due to the "specs", given that they are pretty cutting edge.
I think its more that the time is not worth the RoI
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"Cutting edge"? It has a dualcore processor and a 720p screen. It really isn't cutting edge at all.
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I can't handle being on a stock AOSP ROM coming from a Neuxs. I hoping we see a Slim Bean type of ROM for the X with all the Moto features included in it. *fingers crossed*
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That won't happen because slim is built off of AOSP and the Motorola features are not in AOSP.
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"Cutting edge"? It has a dualcore processor and a 720p screen. It really isn't cutting edge at all.
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Actually, the number of cores and resolution mean nothing in terms of "cutting edge". You can throw spec sheets all you want, but real world 720p vs 1080p is a **** measuring contest. we're talking about a 5 inch device here, pixel density to the naked eye for the average person maxes out at like 280ppi, you cant see individual pixels in the moto x, just like you couldnt see them in the galaxy nexus or the s3/s4. That being said, the moto X has a full RBG pixel sublayout, which is lacking in nearly every other display on the market - Furthermore, it uses significantly less power than other displays on the market. (http://www.forbes.com/sites/parmyol...ive-than-the-new-iphone-researchers-think-so/)
as for the processor. I'm going to give you an analogy to the PC market. AMD produces high core CPU's (6 and 8) which are far less innovative or cutting edge than intels quad core CPU's. Poopx8 is still poop. The dual core chips in the moto X are Krait 300 chips paired with an Adreno 320. This is the same snapdragon 600 that you find in the nexus 7 2013 and the s4/HTC one. In graphics benchmarks, the moto X wins even on 1080p (offscreen) tests, and side by side tests show the moto x preforming faster in apps than both the s4 and the htc one. So regardless of the paper specs, it is on par with those phones, which is who it is targeted against at I might add. (http://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Moto-X-review.003.png)
Then you add in the Sensor chip and the NLP chip, and stacked battery and you have a device that outperforms all of its peers, gets better battery life, and offers more always on features than all of its peers. You don't think that is cutting edge because it is a "dual core"? Marketing has gotten to your brain =x
EDIT - To be clear, I know the snapdragon 800 is the new bad boy on the block, but I argue that a change in the way people use their phone in a positive manner is more innovative than a linear bump in specs. Besides, the X came out before them and is a platform launch device.

anotherfiz said:
Actually, the number of cores and resolution mean nothing in terms of "cutting edge". You can throw spec sheets all you want, but real world 720p vs 1080p is a **** measuring contest. we're talking about a 5 inch device here, pixel density to the naked eye for the average person maxes out at like 280ppi, you cant see individual pixels in the moto x, just like you couldnt see them in the galaxy nexus or the s3/s4. That being said, the moto X has a full RBG pixel sublayout, which is lacking in nearly every other display on the market - Furthermore, it uses significantly less power than other displays on the market. (http://www.forbes.com/sites/parmyol...ive-than-the-new-iphone-researchers-think-so/)
as for the processor. I'm going to give you an analogy to the PC market. AMD produces high core CPU's (6 and 8) which are far less innovative or cutting edge than intels quad core CPU's. Poopx8 is still poop. The dual core chips in the moto X are Krait 300 chips paired with an Adreno 320. This is the same snapdragon 600 that you find in the nexus 7 2013 and the s4/HTC one. In graphics benchmarks, the moto X wins even on 1080p (offscreen) tests, and side by side tests show the moto x preforming faster in apps than both the s4 and the htc one. So regardless of the paper specs, it is on par with those phones, which is who it is targeted against at I might add. (http://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Moto-X-review.003.png)
Then you add in the Sensor chip and the NLP chip, and stacked battery and you have a device that outperforms all of its peers, gets better battery life, and offers more always on features than all of its peers. You don't think that is cutting edge because it is a "dual core"? Marketing has gotten to your brain =x
EDIT - To be clear, I know the snapdragon 800 is the new bad boy on the block, but I argue that a change in the way people use their phone in a positive manner is more innovative than a linear bump in specs. Besides, the X came out before them and is a platform launch device.
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Seriously! Cutting edge isn't always about numbers and theoretical performance. We live in a day where we have reached a soft cap in how raw "power" can be utilized...
Innovation and advance isn't about making something load an app 3 milliseconds faster, but rather, change how we interact with that technology on a daily basis... This phone has met the new demand for innovation, it has clearly changed the landscape of user/device interaction... Not to mention, that it is as fast and has the battery life of any of the "power house" phones on the market...
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No more Nexus after nexus 6?

https://twitter.com/eldarmurtazin/status/427697036008251393
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19736_...uld-swap-nexus-line-with-google-play-by-2015/
I just found around this. Which if true, could mean no more subsidies?

This better not be true those Google play editions phones aren't cheap. Keep the nexus alive
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The guy has already said S5 will launch at MWC may be, let's see how correct he is.
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This better not be true those Google play editions phones aren't cheap. Keep the nexus alive
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I hope so :crying: <3 Nexus phones.

I find it amusing that the author called the GPE GS4 higher end than the N5. There is nothing about the GS4 that's higher end.
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Sounds like BS to me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7koS5PMpmbU

Unsubstantiated info! The Nexus has a lifetime warranty!

_MetalHead_ said:
I find it amusing that the author called the GPE GS4 higher end than the N5. There is nothing about the GS4 that's higher end.
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Cnet writers opinion shoul be taken with a whole pound of salt.

gee2012 said:
Sounds like BS to me
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Phonearena did say that guy's source has been reliable over the past years. So who knows? It does kinda makes sense though, but we the proud fanboys just don't want to hear this happen :fingers-crossed:

Maybe because google didn't find a solution for a new name after the nexus 6, since nexus 7 already exists :laugh:

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Maybe because google didn't find a solution for a new name after the nexus 6, since nexus 7 already exists :laugh:
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Nexus 7P(hone)

I cant see them doing it. Even though the Nexus 5 battery is horrid i love the phone. But yea after Nexus 6 what will call the next one

I read this earlier and was going to post something. I am hoping that Google is only considering this from a marketing/ flawed naming convention in there product name. But this isn't the first time Google has had naming convention/version issues. Just look at jelly bean and how it literally encompasses 3 versions of android. So let's hope they will still keep building a flagship device to symbolize what android should represent and not abandon this line all together.
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This better not be true those Google play editions phones aren't cheap. Keep the nexus alive
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The Moto G GPE is cheaper than any Nexus phone has ever been. My guess is this may be Google's way of making Motorola the default developer of Nexus devices by just calling their phone a GPE. And Motorola/Google is focused on having affordable phones so I don't see the price as being an issue. So maybe in 2016 we have 5-6 different GPE phones from different manufacturers and the Motorola one will basically replace the "Nexus" phone. At the end of the day it will not really matter other than the Nexus name being gone.
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JMillion said:
I cant see them doing it. Even though the Nexus 5 battery is horrid i love the phone. But yea after Nexus 6 what will call the next one
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Do we really need another Nexus 4/5 naming discussion? The Nexus 7 and 10 were named after their size. The Nexus 4 and Nexus 5 could easily have been too (we will likely never know). Naming is not an issue.

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Maybe because google didn't find a solution for a new name after the nexus 6, since nexus 7 already exists :laugh:
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I was thinking that they might go back to adopting the OEMs phone brands again like they did for the galaxy nexus. So if Sony was next they could do like a "xperia nexus". Not the most catching name but it works. Although more than likely people will still go by numbers to identify it
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Well.. is expect that Motorola will handle the nexus line if it stays.
By the way, the writer lost me at 'if there companies can push out software updates in a timely manner, there would be no reason to have a redundant nexus line'
Derp
First, waiting for updates on carrier laden releases can take forever.
Second, not everyone wants bloated versions of Android.
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Hats off to google if they are planning to stop this series of Nexus phones.
Nexus series though cheap, google has no direct control. With Motorola already in their arsenal and also creating good phones like to moto x and moto g, I am sure all new Google phones should and would be from Motorola.
Though they have signed a long term contract with Samsung, I am sure it won't be for the phones but for other tech like the glass could be mass produced and probably Google is also planning to launch something like the Galaxy Gear and hence this collaboration.
Hope all goes well and we see latest tech with the Google Moto combo.

Even if the rumor is true, it doesn't mean they're going to stop selling affordable devices running vanilla Android. It probably just means they're going to drop the Nexus brand and sell the devices as Motorola.

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I find it amusing that the author called the GPE GS4 higher end than the N5. There is nothing about the GS4 that's higher end.
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Not true. The s4 has a very very similar CPU... Better camera... Better build quality (the s4 doesn't have a defects or RMA thread... Nexus has multiple). The only downfall to the s4 is touchwiz. @broodplank1337 has an aosp 4.4.2 ROM that runs just as good on the s4 as KK does on our nexus.
The reason I don't like this is cuz I ran GPE Roms on my S4 and they still used a lot of touchwiz framework. If they do this, and remove carrier ui framework all together, and release true aosp on these high end devices, I'm all aboard. Nexus' are cheaply built and they take shortcuts to get a bargain phone. Everyone should want the best. If it costs too much, then you can get a new job or save money.
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the s4 doesn't have a defects or RMA thread
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Not really relevant. Many phones don't. The S3 didnt either, yet it had plenty of defects. It all depends if someone makes a thread or not.
The s4 was flagship though and the nexus is not high end. Its budget performance. But the S4 is older and can't keep up the performance.
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