https://twitter.com/eldarmurtazin/status/427697036008251393
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19736_...uld-swap-nexus-line-with-google-play-by-2015/
I just found around this. Which if true, could mean no more subsidies?
This better not be true those Google play editions phones aren't cheap. Keep the nexus alive
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The guy has already said S5 will launch at MWC may be, let's see how correct he is.
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raymond4 said:
This better not be true those Google play editions phones aren't cheap. Keep the nexus alive
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I hope so :crying: <3 Nexus phones.
I find it amusing that the author called the GPE GS4 higher end than the N5. There is nothing about the GS4 that's higher end.
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Sounds like BS to me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7koS5PMpmbU
Unsubstantiated info! The Nexus has a lifetime warranty!
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I find it amusing that the author called the GPE GS4 higher end than the N5. There is nothing about the GS4 that's higher end.
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Cnet writers opinion shoul be taken with a whole pound of salt.
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Sounds like BS to me
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Phonearena did say that guy's source has been reliable over the past years. So who knows? It does kinda makes sense though, but we the proud fanboys just don't want to hear this happen :fingers-crossed:
Maybe because google didn't find a solution for a new name after the nexus 6, since nexus 7 already exists :laugh:
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Maybe because google didn't find a solution for a new name after the nexus 6, since nexus 7 already exists :laugh:
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Nexus 7P(hone)
I cant see them doing it. Even though the Nexus 5 battery is horrid i love the phone. But yea after Nexus 6 what will call the next one
I read this earlier and was going to post something. I am hoping that Google is only considering this from a marketing/ flawed naming convention in there product name. But this isn't the first time Google has had naming convention/version issues. Just look at jelly bean and how it literally encompasses 3 versions of android. So let's hope they will still keep building a flagship device to symbolize what android should represent and not abandon this line all together.
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This better not be true those Google play editions phones aren't cheap. Keep the nexus alive
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The Moto G GPE is cheaper than any Nexus phone has ever been. My guess is this may be Google's way of making Motorola the default developer of Nexus devices by just calling their phone a GPE. And Motorola/Google is focused on having affordable phones so I don't see the price as being an issue. So maybe in 2016 we have 5-6 different GPE phones from different manufacturers and the Motorola one will basically replace the "Nexus" phone. At the end of the day it will not really matter other than the Nexus name being gone.
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I cant see them doing it. Even though the Nexus 5 battery is horrid i love the phone. But yea after Nexus 6 what will call the next one
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Do we really need another Nexus 4/5 naming discussion? The Nexus 7 and 10 were named after their size. The Nexus 4 and Nexus 5 could easily have been too (we will likely never know). Naming is not an issue.
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Maybe because google didn't find a solution for a new name after the nexus 6, since nexus 7 already exists :laugh:
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I was thinking that they might go back to adopting the OEMs phone brands again like they did for the galaxy nexus. So if Sony was next they could do like a "xperia nexus". Not the most catching name but it works. Although more than likely people will still go by numbers to identify it
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Well.. is expect that Motorola will handle the nexus line if it stays.
By the way, the writer lost me at 'if there companies can push out software updates in a timely manner, there would be no reason to have a redundant nexus line'
Derp
First, waiting for updates on carrier laden releases can take forever.
Second, not everyone wants bloated versions of Android.
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Hats off to google if they are planning to stop this series of Nexus phones.
Nexus series though cheap, google has no direct control. With Motorola already in their arsenal and also creating good phones like to moto x and moto g, I am sure all new Google phones should and would be from Motorola.
Though they have signed a long term contract with Samsung, I am sure it won't be for the phones but for other tech like the glass could be mass produced and probably Google is also planning to launch something like the Galaxy Gear and hence this collaboration.
Hope all goes well and we see latest tech with the Google Moto combo.
Even if the rumor is true, it doesn't mean they're going to stop selling affordable devices running vanilla Android. It probably just means they're going to drop the Nexus brand and sell the devices as Motorola.
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I find it amusing that the author called the GPE GS4 higher end than the N5. There is nothing about the GS4 that's higher end.
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Not true. The s4 has a very very similar CPU... Better camera... Better build quality (the s4 doesn't have a defects or RMA thread... Nexus has multiple). The only downfall to the s4 is touchwiz. @broodplank1337 has an aosp 4.4.2 ROM that runs just as good on the s4 as KK does on our nexus.
The reason I don't like this is cuz I ran GPE Roms on my S4 and they still used a lot of touchwiz framework. If they do this, and remove carrier ui framework all together, and release true aosp on these high end devices, I'm all aboard. Nexus' are cheaply built and they take shortcuts to get a bargain phone. Everyone should want the best. If it costs too much, then you can get a new job or save money.
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the s4 doesn't have a defects or RMA thread
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Not really relevant. Many phones don't. The S3 didnt either, yet it had plenty of defects. It all depends if someone makes a thread or not.
The s4 was flagship though and the nexus is not high end. Its budget performance. But the S4 is older and can't keep up the performance.
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With so many shifts happening in the industry (like Samsung shifting to Tizen and away from Android, BB 10 OS, Ubuntu, etc) there is now talk of Google going against Samsung and Apple with an upcoming Google/Motorola X Phone to be announced at the I/O meeting in May during the anticipated release of Android 5.0.
Some are starting to speculate that the X Phone may not only be the next flagship device for Google but also the X family which may replace the current Nexus devices ( phones, tablets).
What are your thoughts about this? If true, do you see yourself making a jump to this rumored X Phone?
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Google just started the Nexus 4-7-10 system two months ago.... I really don't see them changing anything, even the name to X, soon.
Besides, Motorola's designs are hideous (not quite as bad as Samsung's, but still pretty bad). I really don't want to see that X phone if it looks like other Moto phones. Give the next Google phone to HTC.
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With so many shifts happening in the industry (like Samsung shifting to Tizen and away from Android, BB 10 OS, Ubuntu, etc) there is now talk of Google going against Samsung and Apple with an upcoming Google/Motorola X Phone to be announced at the I/O meeting in May during the anticipated release of Android 5.0.
Some are starting to speculate that the X Phone may not only be the next flagship device for Google but also the X family which may replace the current Nexus devices ( phones, tablets).
What are your thoughts about this? If true, do you see yourself making a jump to this rumored X Phone?
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X-phone is a rumour for now. No one is sure if it's true. X if true is being built by Motorola, which recently pulled out of lot of markets couple months back. So it can't be a hit.
My guess is it might be a device for Verizon.
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From a complete business perspective, any time is good to create a new line built off of the success of an older one. In fact, its much wiser to continue that method in rapid succession rather than to delay it. If sales have plateaued I'd consider it totally possible, and applaud Google in the process.
Of course, this is all just speculation.
I personally like the designs of moto, I loved my dx-2 and every other moto phone I've owned. In my experience they have a solid feel and a sense of quality.
There are many theories out there on what this X phone is going to be but the shifting landscape esp. regarding Sammy and Tizen makes me wonder if Google is cooking something up in house (w/ Motorola).
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I've never owned a Moto phone but I hear they have good radios and battery life - both features important to me.
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my guess is that its gonna be the next nexus device and will be branded as such, but google is going to push it as a phone for consumers in addition to the developer/android lovers phone the nexus line is known for, they are already starting to do it now with the nexus 4 but they would go all out with the x phone, so my guess is it would be on all carriers and available through the play store. theres not really any evidence that it would be revealed at the google i/o, maybe the x tablet will be revealed then to replace the n7. i think it would be released closer to the holiday season like the nexus 4
i think we can all agree it will be a helluva phone regardless if you like moto or not
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I've never owned a Moto phone but I hear they have good radios and battery life - both features important to me.
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Same. Reception, battery life, and build quality are Motorola's proficiencies and are the 3 things I care about. Motorola Nexus should be killer.
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4 is an unlucky number. First the S4 pro is the last of its series and a few months later is replaced by a significantly more powerful successor(mpdecision is a joke, the radio is a joke). The Nexus 4's launch was terrible, people still can't get one and there are rumors about halted production, and we can't forget the thermal issues. Our last strike being Qualcomm's lack of open source code for the S4 Pro which practically contradicts the purpose of getting a Nexus-experience. Might as well go with Tegra since openness is lacking from both.
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From a complete business perspective, any time is good to create a new line built off of the success of an older one. In fact, its much wiser to continue that method in rapid succession rather than to delay it. If sales have plateaued I'd consider it totally possible, and applaud Google in the process.
Of course, this is all just speculation.
I personally like the designs of moto, I loved my dx-2 and every other moto phone I've owned. In my experience they have a solid feel and a sense of quality.
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That would cause irreparable damage to their brand. Also a business perspective.
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4 is an unlucky number. First the S4 pro is the last of its series and a few months later is replaced by a significantly more powerful successor(mpdecision is a joke, the radio is a joke). The Nexus 4's launch was terrible, people still can't get one and there are rumors about halted production, and we can't forget the thermal issues. Our last strike being Qualcomm's lack of open source code for the S4 Pro which practically contradicts the purpose of getting a Nexus-experience. Might as well go with Tegra since openness is lacking from both.
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I loved the processor on the Galaxy Nexus. At least that one doesn't run hot while playing the game Flow.
I can't play Flow for more than 30 minutes without it being extremely discomforting because of the processor burning up.
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Same. Reception, battery life, and build quality are Motorola's proficiencies and are the 3 things I care about. Motorola Nexus should be killer.
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I think all companies can make great phones if they focused on making one device a year instead of 12 like the iPhone is always going to be a top tier device but Samsung will work on an s3 along with others like galaxy victory note 2 galaxy camera plus TV's and other electronics.
The nexus and the X are closely related in terms of names so I don't think nexus will be abandoned. Nexus emphasizes on the X (jellybean boot animation for example).
They just started a number system so they can go to letters since its going to be different like the Nexus X but... Since moto is Google's company and "droid" has these dramatic commercials they may market it as the "Droid" collides with "Nexus" and the world explodes and then they show NEXUS written in droid red letters and fade out the NE and US leaving X glowing.
Lol it looks beautiful in my mind hopefully my writing expresses that.
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Google Nexus X
Not that large of a change. Similar to the scheme they adopted with Samsung. Nexus S and GALAXY Nexus. The Droid X series by Motorola was popular so if Motorola made one it would make sense as a name (or as a good speculation for a name)
It would also follow Apple's ditching of numbers with the new iPad.
I was planning on buying the nexus 4 in a few months. I shouldn't have to worry about this new nexus coming out into the end of the year right?
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It all depends on when the next generation of phones come out. I hope Google doesn't ditch their nexus 4...
Maybe they are having moto rush them for a June launch. Seeing as they have no more nexus 4s
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It all depends on when the next generation of phones come out. I hope Google doesn't ditch their nexus 4...
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I agree but to expand. I wish that they keep it a solid family. Hate to compare but like iPhone.
If I buy a nexus on a 2 year contract I expect at least the first year to get all updates. People have the iPhone 4 and aren't in a hurry to get the five because its almost the same but I was going crazy when I was stuck on GB and ICS was out.
Like the droid RAZR, RAZR maxx, RAZR HD, RAZR HD maxx, That is 4 different models that are 95% the same but yet some won't get jellybean when others do.
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I don't really see Samsung shifting to Tizen, its more of a side project.
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Maybe they are having moto rush them for a June launch. Seeing as they have no more nexus 4s
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Yeah what the heck is going on with that.
Im thinking the nexus 4 is going to be great. Even Google preview video with the guy talking about the nexus phone being the best nexus and abandoning other nexus from the past and now they "ditch it" within 3 months.
First off. Google should never have contracted with LG. You are a big company with big demands for a high profile device and lg can't make more than 5 for launch.
The N4 on Play has "sold out" tattooed on it since an hour after launch.
Samsung had the same with the s3 but it took one month then it was back in stock and never left.
I gotta say LG dropped the ball on this one.
http://www.androidauthority.com/nex...focusing-smartphones-nexus-5-included-146707/
I sure hope that they don't call the family of products "X what ever" because it almost sounds like a ripoff of apple and all of their "i products". That would be like Google referring to android as "Aos". Very lame.... Nexus just sounds better and means connection or link. That's a pretty cool name, that your product is your link to the world.
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The nexus brand has always had "X" as the logo.
My Nexus one had the X boot animation. So an X phone is still very relevant to Google and if they are going to start manufacturing their own hardware it makes sense to distance themselves from the existing nexus program.
New age.
New name.
I dont see that happening anytime soon. As someone above me said, Google just launched the Nexus family and people are beginning to recognize the name "Nexus". Why would they abandon that ?
Also, Samsung is certainly not moving away from Android. They are hitting record sales with their Galaxy line of phones and theres no point in ditching Android.
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HTC One "Google Edition" Rumored for this summer. Interested or keeping Nexus 4?
Not sure if true, but it would make sense (pun intended) so HTC can keep up with Samsung.
http://phandroid.com/2013/05/20/htc...unning-stock-android-rumor/?utm_source=feedly
IF it comes out. I'll probably get it. i've been waiting for HTC to manufacture another Nexus phone. This is probably as close we can get it.
Hell Ya. Pure Android paired with a better camera, Mic, speakers, real LTE and build quality. I'll fork over the $649. Finally got to hold a HTC one this weekend..beautiful phone.
What does this have to do with the Nexus 4?
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What does this have to do with the Nexus 4?
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Thanks for posting in a thread that you don't care about. Must be an obvious attempt to raise your post count...
These always has to be one.. LOL
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Thanks for posting in a thread that you don't care about. Must be an obvious attempt to raise your post count...
These always has to be one.. LOL
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As much as I despise HTC for pairing with at&t to lock their phones harder than iOS. I will admit I do want the HTC one, but I don't want the "developer edition" or the carrier version. I probably would spend money for HTCs hardware with google's say in the matter. (fastboot oem unlock) for example.
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I'd probably wait for the Nexus 5 and if it disappoints, then hopefully the HTC One and the SGS4 will be cheaper by then and I'll pick one of them up. Even better, we'll see how the dev scene plays out for these "Google Edition" phones and if the updates are truly from Google and such.
There is a thread for such discussion: [DISCUSSION] Google Nexus 4 vs any other phone
I am generally interested when the Manufacturers are willing to bring the Nexus experience to one of their phones.
Might not jump on this one, but it is a good start.
The Nexus 4 is still powerful enough, and I want to see how the not-so-smart button setup of the HTC One is used with a Nexus Experience version.
Cheers
i dont think i will ever get a non-nexus phone. i mean, okay, htc releases a pure vanilla phone, which will get updates. but android is developed primarily for nexus phones, thus android on nexus phones will be the way it was intended.
plus i dont even consider samsung phones because of their build quality, and im fairly unsure about htc's poor battery life.
only thing that could convince me to do a little detour of nexuses is the moto x phone. if it ever comes out with aosp and good battery life (only thing that bugs me in my n4).
Yes, god yes it's like the ultimate phone. But a lot depends on the timing. If it's launched after the new nexus or just a month before it not a good buy. But if it's launched in a month from now..
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Nothing to do with the Nexus 4. Please use the Nexus 4 vs. Any other phone thread.
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Is the Nexus 4 going to be the LAST nexus device? Since the Galaxy S4 and HTC One are both going to get the Nexus treatment with unlocked bootloaders and etc I kinda feel like more developers are going to shift toward those instead despite its steeping price point of 650$.
blahblah13233 said:
Is the Nexus 4 going to be the nexus device?
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The Nexus 4 is already the nexus device.
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blahblah13233 said:
Is the Nexus 4 going to be the nexus device? Since the Galaxy S4 and HTC One are both going to get the Nexus treatment with unlocked bootloaders and etc I kinda feel like more developers are going to shift toward those instead despite its steeping price point of 650$.
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HTC says no to Nexus variant of 'One' smartphone. "HTC is not currently planning a 'Nexus Edition' of the HTC One,"
No we still have opt G2 as nexus 5.
RacerXO said:
HTC says no to Nexus variant of 'One' smartphone. "HTC is not currently planning a 'Nexus Edition' of the HTC One,"
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Your wrong
http://m.cnet.com/news/htc-one-google-edition-its-real-and-coming-in-summer/57586184
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Seeing as how none of us has a dependable means of foretelling the future...
INB4L
mitchdickson said:
The Nexus 4 is already the nexus device.
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Haha sorry. I probably typed it up too fast.
there have been other devices with a pure android experience besides the sgs4, and there will be others. that doesnt make them a nexus. a nexus is a nexus, there will be more, the nexus 4 isnt the last one.
It might end up being one of the last.. Maybe one more. Now that there are two top notch phones with pure android I'd be hard pressed to buy another nexus. Probably going to grab the HTC this summer. I only really wanted nexus for the pure android experience, and now there's two better phones with the same thing.
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Everyone needs to calm down. Nexus phones are always released in Q4 around Thanksgiving. There will be a new Nexus phone, you can count on it.
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Is the Nexus 4 going to be the LAST nexus device? Since the Galaxy S4 and HTC One are both going to get the Nexus treatment with unlocked bootloaders and etc I kinda feel like more developers are going to shift toward those instead despite its steeping price point of 650$.
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No. There will always be dumb consumers who want the shiny shiny and there will always be developers who don't give a damn. Price is a huge factor, most folks are used to the contract subsidized prices.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=41501556
And there will be also someone not so bright that makes this damned thread every two days...
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Just wait until October to see Nexus 5 and November for buy it and use it .
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It might end up being one of the last.. Maybe one more. Now that there are two top notch phones with pure android I'd be hard pressed to buy another nexus. Probably going to grab the HTC this summer. I only really wanted nexus for the pure android experience, and now there's two better phones with the same thing.
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Here is the question will the pure android version of the sg4 get google updates when the nexus does? will it continue to get updates beyond the first one?
so say it gets 4.3 will it get 5.0?
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Here is the question will the pure android version of the sg4 get google updates when the nexus does? will it continue to get updates beyond the first one?
so say it gets 4.3 will it get 5.0?
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No one knows but Google. I think nexus will get updates first though
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I won't really care much if it's the latest and "Nexus Experience" phones take it's place. (as long the updates and stock software behave like a Nexus)
All Nexuses had issues with specs when compared to their competition after all.
(N1/Desire (lack multitouch screen), NS/GS (lack SD Card), GN/GSII (camera downgrade), N4/OG (yet another camera downgrade, no LTE))
This make me wonder what Google is thinking.
The only thing I will miss is the sleek no-logo front.
Do we really need a new device every freaking year? Do we? Kind of waste.
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Do we really need a new device every freaking year? Do we? Kind of waste.
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We do. We really do lol
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Your wrong
http://m.cnet.com/news/htc-one-google-edition-its-real-and-coming-in-summer/57586184
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HTC must have recently change their future plans, since I read this:
http://www.ibtimes.com/htc-one-nexus-edition-not-works-says-htc-executive-1264489
Please continue your discussions in the existing thread HERE
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So many phones looking forward too.
1. HTC ONE MAXX/T6
2. NOTE 3
3. MOTO X PHONE.
4. A possibly revamped s4 with a snapdragon 800
5. HTC ONE AND S4 Google edition.
Just wondering who is trading their nexus 4 for what phone and for what purposes?
Just curious
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So many phones looking forward too.
1. HTC ONE MAXX/T6
2. NOTE 3
3. MOTO X PHONE.
4. A possibly revamped s4 with a snapdragon 800
5. HTC ONE AND S4 Google edition.
Just wondering who is trading their nexus 4 for what phone and for what purposes?
Just curious
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I ain't trading shizz!!! I just bought this phone 4 months ago, and I did so with the intention of using it until it's a dinosaur (EOL), or Google signs Sony to make a Nexus...whichever comes first
i wanna trade but idk i love this phone so much
Getting the next Nexus. Hopefully made by HTC or Sony.
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Don't think the Nexus 4 has enough trade value to do a one for one trade for the phones you mentioned.
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i wanna trade but idk i love this phone so much
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I know, I love it too....that's why the only thing that'll make me get a new one before N4's EOL is a Sony Nexus. I absolutely love their hardware! I'm actually kind of impressed that LG did as well with this one, too...I've never exactly been a fan of anything LG makes, but man do I love this phone
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i know not a direct trade and no one would trade those phones for a nexus 4
but i meant trade as in sell/ trade w/cash , etc.
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I know, I love it too....that's why the only thing that'll make me get a new one before N4's EOL is a Sony Nexus. I absolutely love their hardware! I'm actually kind of impressed that LG did as well with this one, too...I've never exactly been a fan of anything LG makes, but man do I love this phone
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yea i was a bit iffy about LG making this at first, but im very impressed with it.
And yea sony nexus would be nice
and most phones now pretty much have all same hardware (as far as flagship devices) sony makes some sexy looking devices
only thing i wish is the nexus had a 5 inch display :/
I will never buy another phone that isn't in the Nexus line as long as Nexus is being made. I came from the iPhone 4 to the Nexus 4 with zero experience in any Nexus device, or even Android in general, and I can tell you that pure Android is the best Android. I have a bunch of friends who hate Android solely because they bought a low-end phone that was running an outdated version of Android and had low specs.
"Yeah, but you should buy those Google Edition phones! They're so good and still show off pure Android!"
Yes, but at the same time, no. It's what AOSP 'should' look like, but it isn't truly AOSP. The OEMs still have to input their proprietary drivers/kernels to make it compatible with that hardware, so it's still customized. Android is developed for the latest Nexus device, and Nexus is made to show off the latest Android. I will sincerely buy every Nexus device that will ever be made because it is so open (and cheap). The freedom granted to OEMs, or end-users, is ridiculous. One line of code to unlock the bootloader? For real? Why WOULDN'T you buy Nexus? Come on.
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I will never buy another phone that isn't in the Nexus line as long as Nexus is being made. I came from the iPhone 4 to the Nexus 4 with zero experience in any Nexus device, or even Android in general, and I can tell you that pure Android is the best Android. I have a bunch of friends who hate Android solely because they bought a low-end phone that was running an outdated version of Android and had low specs.
"Yeah, but you should buy those Google Edition phones! They're so good and still show off pure Android!"
Yes, but at the same time, no. It's what AOSP 'should' look like, but it isn't truly AOSP. The OEMs still have to input their proprietary drivers/kernels to make it compatible with that hardware, so it's still customized. Android is developed for the latest Nexus device, and Nexus is made to show off the latest Android. I will sincerely buy every Nexus device that will ever be made because it is so open (and cheap). The freedom granted to OEMs, or end-users, is ridiculous. One line of code to unlock the bootloader? For real? Why WOULDN'T you buy Nexus? Come on.
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Historically, not all nexii are as cheap as the N4. Just ask galaxy nexus, nexus s, nexus one and google one owners who bought devices from play. They paid an arm for their devices!! I love google's new subsidized price strategy, but it's just that....new I hope they keep it up, though, because I whole-heartedly agree with you!! I'll buy every nexus released as long as they are affordable in their prices.
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Historically, not all nexii are as cheap as the N4. Just ask galaxy nexus, nexus s, nexus one and google one owners who bought devices from play. They paid an arm for their devices!! I love google's new subsidized price strategy, but it's just that....new I hope they keep it up, though, because I whole-heartedly agree with you!! I'll buy every nexus released as long as they are affordable in their prices.
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I don't own a N4, but I do hope they keep the same price range as I will be buying a nexus for my next device come January. Hopefully there will be a N5 at that time with the same price I will jump all over that.
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Bought my wife the Galaxy S4 yesterday. I love my nexus too but dang that phone is RETARDED fast. I mean, I didn't really notice any lag in my phone until I played with hers but there is a hint here and there. Even with my animations and so forth turned to .5x
I could flash Cyanogenmod and be good to go. I mean I had the EOL idea too but now I'm rethinking it. And to think what goodies may come in the fall. The Galaxy S4 LTE-A with a 2.3ghz processor.... REALLY.? Omg.. I dunno we will see I guess. I do love my phone but it's hard to resist hardware like that.
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Bought my wife the Galaxy S4 yesterday. I love my nexus too but dang that phone is RETARDED fast. I mean, I didn't really notice any lag in my phone until I played with hers but there is a hint here and there. Even with my animations and so forth turned to .5x
I could flash Cyanogenmod and be good to go. I mean I had the EOL idea too but now I'm rethinking it. And to think what goodies may come in the fall. The Galaxy S4 LTE-A with a 2.3ghz processor.... REALLY.? Omg.. I dunno we will see I guess. I do love my phone but it's hard to resist hardware like that.
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For me at least I know I want the nexus cuz I don't want to pay for all the extra stuff that I won't use like waiving my hand around like a monkey to use my phone. Anyways if I were to get a s4 and use cm10.1 on it what's the point of spending twice the amount of a nexus for when I can have a better version of cm10.1
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Staying with the N4 till the N5 arrives...
Another vote for keeping the N4 until the next Nexus.
Thanks may be an option too. I'm excited to see what the future of Google and Motorola may be also.. I think the point of putting Cyanogenmod on Galaxy S4 would be the better specs of the S4.
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Why isn't the iPhone 5S on this list?!
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Why isn't the iPhone 5S on this list?!
....jk
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Well.... If I could get cyanogenmod on the 5S then.......
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In my opinion the n4 is the best phone available especially since it will get official/unofficial updates for 3-5 years or so,
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Well it seems that the S4 and the HTCone are not going to get their updates at the same time as us Nexus owners, Google says
On background, we will be working very closely with Samsung and HTC on future software updates for these devices and they will receive software updates shortly after a new version is released.
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This makes it one more reason why I will stay with a true Google device.
Source: http://goo.gl/2hm5t
I cracked the back on my N4 today, and with all the new about the Moto X does anyone think it's worth me waiting to grab one from the Play store when they release that version? Or should I just get another N4? I haven't found any comparison benchmarks.
I just posted my thoughts on this in the other thread so I might as well share it with you:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=44190983&postcount=25
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I cracked the back on my N4 today, and with all the new about the Moto X does anyone think it's worth me waiting to grab one from the Play store when they release that version? Or should I just get another N4? I haven't found any comparison benchmarks.
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Is the front glass broke as well? If not I would just order the back cover and replace it. If you do make sure you order one with the NFC antenna if that is a must for you.
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I just posted my thoughts on this in the other thread so I might as well share it with you:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=44190983&postcount=25
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I had seem some references in my RSS feeds that it wouldn't be available in the Play store sometime soon. Ars suspects that it will be 2-300 from the Store as well.
If I had a good, non-broken, Nexus I wouldn't think about changing. I'm only looking because I need to purchase a phone anyway.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Motorola-Moto-X-specs-review_id45958
Needs 1080 screen
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Is the front glass broke as well? If not I would just order the back cover and replace it. If you do make sure you order one with the NFC antenna if that is a must for you.
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No but the crack goes down the housing along the bottom too. I was at a client and leaned over a wall forgetting it was in my shirt pocket. I'm lucky it didn't totally shatter when it fell.
I'm quite interested in how they rewrote the entire Linux base to run natively on the ARM instruction set. We may see unprecedented improvement in the delay in touch response that is seen on every Android device to date.
The voice recognition also seems like a massive push, even on the hardware side. I hope that can come to the Nexus 4, but I'm worried for battery life on that front. The X doesn't have the most powerful main SoC, but it looks like it will be a solid performer.
Not that I don't love the Nexus 4. I also love new contenders!
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I'm quite interested in how they rewrote the entire Linux base to run natively on the ARM instruction set. We may see unprecedented improvement in the delay in touch response that is seen on every Android device to date.
The voice recognition also seems like a massive push, even on the hardware side. I hope that can come to the Nexus 4, but I'm worried for battery life on that front. The X doesn't have the most powerful main SoC, but it looks like it will be a solid performer.
Not that I don't love the Nexus 4. I also love new contenders!
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Well with the other cores in the computing system dedicated to voice commands and sensors won't that alleviate the s4 to perform more efficiently?
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Well with the other cores in the computing system dedicated to voice commands and sensors won't that alleviate the s4 to perform more efficiently?
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It should let the S4 sit at idle for longer periods of time.
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Well with the other cores in the computing system dedicated to voice commands and sensors won't that alleviate the s4 to perform more efficiently?
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Exactly my thoughts. Which is mainly why I thought that it would remain a solid performer. With all the other cores dedicated to performing other tasks, the S4 should be able to do main computing tasks quite fast. It remains to be seen how powerful that GPU is, however. But with all that optimization, though, it should provide an awesome experience!
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I have to say that the Nexus 4 takes it just because of the price. The moto X is awesome but I would have hoped for it to be available sooner and more affordable but I totally understand the pricing. After all Motorola is still an OEM just like Samsung and LG and HTC, the difference is they are owned by google now ( no pun intended). Since they are still an OEM they must release phones just like any other OEM and that is via carriers unlike the nexus devices.
Honestly? I think Moto X is waaaaay cooler than Nexus 4...
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Honestly? I think Moto X is waaaaay cooler than Nexus 4...
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It's also moto and vzw. No thank you.
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Honestly? I think Moto X is waaaaay cooler than Nexus 4...
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Yes its cooler but is it 300$ more cooler than the N4? I don't think so... ( the off contract price is 575$ - 625$ depending of storage)
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XxLostSoulxX said:
It's also moto and vzw. No thank you.
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Not only VZW, all major US carriers.
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Yes its cooler but is it 300$ more cooler than the N4? I don't think so... ( the off contract price is 575$ - 625$ depending of storage)
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Not only VZW, all major US carriers.
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Yeah, I know... i'm not talking about price point here... And Moto said it would be sold in Play Store as a "Play Edition" device... so i'm expecting something like USD 499 or USD 599...
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Yeah, I know... i'm not talking about price point here... And Moto said it would be sold in Play Store as a "Play Edition" device... so i'm expecting something like USD 499 or USD 599...
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Yes a play store version will be available but I doubt it'll be customizable like the regular version, also t probably wont have the features the regular one has.
In theory it shouldn't have the same features if it becomes one of the "pure" devices, because it will be "pure android" so unless they push the features that it has like voice activation over to the 4.3 stream it shouldn't have them. That would be a big setback as far as I'm concerned it's a very nicely designed device and I like the customization, but there is a reason why we have N4s and not Samsung Galaxys.
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In theory it shouldn't have the same features if it becomes one of the "pure" devices, because it will be "pure android" so unless they push the features that it has like voice activation over to the 4.3 stream it shouldn't have them. That would be a big setback as far as I'm concerned it's a very nicely designed device and I like the customization, but there is a reason why we have N4s and not Samsung Galaxys.
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They could just push an update to Google Search (Google Now) to support the new chip on the Moto X, responsible for the voice commands...
I'm disappointed at the price but in terms of raw power, the 2 krait 300 cores in x should be close to the performance of the n4. That means it also gets ddr3 ram etc. Im not a real big amoled fan but the partial off screen notifications... If its truly off unlike the galaxy nexus screen, it should be nice. Time will tell. When will someone actually review this thing?
The biggest thing I care about is performance to battery ratio. I underclock and try to optimize most of my devices. My nexus 4 runs Trinity kernel in dual core mode and only 1024 MHz most of the time because not much needs the whole enchilada of power with the bandwidth of these new phones and loads of ram. It seems like moto is trying to go the apple route with usability and long battery life etc. 6 hours on screen out of the box with very little drain should be the goal of all these phones when on mobile data.
They are probably shooting themselves in the foot though delaying the 32gb version outside of att. The whole hype of customization and all those links to lock it down on one carrier. Pretty foolish when you think of their exclusivity of good phones with Verizon in the past contributed to their decline.
Mildly disappointed but still holding out hope till the first real reviews come out.
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There's already a Moto X thread which is borderline off topic. The mark manning Nexus 4 vs Any other phone thread is probably where this discussion should take place.
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