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Hi everyone,
I'm thinking about buying LG Optimus 4X and I have a few questions:
1- How is performance about of the box? Any lag?
2- Both 4X and HTC One X have the same processor, are they equal in performance? How is it compared to the S3? What would I be missing compared to both phones?
3- What about gaming? I've read that people have issues with Tegra 3 in gaming in both 4X and One X.
4- Battery life. What is the maximum screen on time with heavy usage?
5- Any news about JB update?
6- Are there any cons I should know about it before buying?
Thanks in advance, guys
My personal experience is ive had no problems with the gaming and the quality has been awesome, you will hear from a few that they think its laggy but id recommend them to stop the many programs they probably have running in the background using task manager.
the thing i dont like is the battery tends to get warm a lot of the time,ive played games like the grand theth auto series and 9mm and nfs most wanted ect ect which played well
friartuckme said:
My personal experience is ive had no problems with the gaming and the quality has been awesome, you will hear from a few that they think its laggy but id recommend them to stop the many programs they probably have running in the background using task manager.
the thing i dont like is the battery tends to get warm a lot of the time,ive played games like the grand theth auto series and 9mm and nfs most wanted ect ect which played well
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They ran well with no lagging at all?
they run very well without lagging, the only time id say i found any problems like lagging was when i had many programs running in memory, for the cost of the phone if i experienced lagging id certainly send it back and buy another phone, people get carried away with downloaded programs that tweaks this or that and have things like the antivirus runnning in the background which then eats up a lot of recources also i wouldnt use programs that run in the background to change lock screens and themes
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also i notice that the heat comes from just below the camera and not directly from the battery which would suggest its the proccessor heating up and not the battery, i dont know if its the same for everyone but check it when it feels hot,.remove the battery cover and feel for the heat source
friartuckme said:
they run very well without lagging, the only time id say i found any problems like lagging was when i had many programs running in memory, for the cost of the phone if i experienced lagging id certainly send it back and buy another phone, people get carried away with downloaded programs that tweaks this or that and have things like the antivirus runnning in the background which then eats up a lot of recources also i wouldnt use programs that run in the background to change lock screens and themes
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also i notice that the heat comes from just below the camera and not directly from the battery which would suggest its the proccessor heating up and not the battery, i dont know if its the same for everyone but check it when it feels hot,.remove the battery cover and feel for the heat source
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Tegra 3 has heating issues due to it's 40nm structure.
The performance is better on the 4x then the one x. Since the tegra 3 was better optimized. I have no lag playing any games. Battery can be something that I didn't really figure out yet. Some days it is good some days it is horrible. When using the phone in wifi battery is rather good when using it on cellular data it is rather not so impressive. But the one x battery is by far worse and not removable. Where u can remove the battery on the 4x.
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dante501 said:
The performance is better on the 4x then the one x. Since the tegra 3 was better optimized. I have no lag playing any games. Battery can be something that I didn't really figure out yet. Some days it is good some days it is horrible. When using the phone in wifi battery is rather good when using it on cellular data it is rather not so impressive. But the one x battery is by far worse and not removable. Where u can remove the battery on the 4x.
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4X has better performance based on experience with both devices or just assumption?
I had the one x and the galaxy s3 and i sold both u got the 4x. Battery on 4x better on then one x epual to s3. Performance s3 then 4x then one x. Screen one x the best then 4x and s3. Checkerboard when blacks im the s3 is bad and the burn in issues on the s3 screen are known issues. Camera one x then s3 then 4x. Custom Roms s3 and one x great, 4x has non.
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dante501 said:
I had the one x and the galaxy s3 and i sold both u got the 4x. Battery on 4x better on then one x epual to s3. Performance s3 then 4x then one x. Screen one x the best then 4x and s3. Checkerboard when blacks im the s3 is bad and the burn in issues on the s3 screen are known issues. Camera one x then s3 then 4x. Custom Roms s3 and one x great, 4x has non.
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Regarding performance, where does the 4X fall behind S3?
I the speeds text the enyox chips are somewhat better performance and battery life wise they give a little bit better results. But the tegra 3 in the 4x is better then the one x version. And I do not regret getting the 4x and it handles really everything as good as the s3 really. The camera is not as good so. It isn't bad but the zoom specially when close is pretty broken but there are camera apps that work good and fix the issue. Camera mx does really good actually. Anyway. The 4x is really a good phone.
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dante501 said:
I the speeds text the enyox chips are somewhat better performance and battery life wise they give a little bit better results. But the tegra 3 in the 4x is better then the one x version. And I do not regret getting the 4x and it handles really everything as good as the s3 really. The camera is not as good so. It isn't bad but the zoom specially when close is pretty broken but there are camera apps that work good and fix the issue. Camera mx does really good actually. Anyway. The 4x is really a good phone.
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Thanks that really helped
Not a problem and u will like the screen. Specially u don't have to worry about burn in and checkerboard looks when u have black backgrounds. And it performs better in sunlight then the amoleod screens do. LG really makes some of the best screens. I only wish I could put a custom rom on the 4x but the stock software is pretty ok. Do not worry about it being as a screw up like it was in the 2x. LG did a better job with that software in the 4x.
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How about Camera
Hi,
I am about to buy this phone but there are a few things that are holding me back (or else, in India, sometimes it is coming out to be 33% cheaper than OneX or S3, which is just superb).
1. Camera quality - I saw the Neowin Review and it is the most honest review I've seen of this phone. Camera isn't its forte, but is a critical factor for me. With some 3rd party softwares, can it be any better, especially in darker settings?
2. Video - How good is the video with 3rd party softwares after updating the phone with 10h firmware update.?
3. I reckon that the battery issues are also taken care of with 10f/g or something like that?
4. How good is the music player with or without PowerAmp, especially with a headphone and not the standard speakers?
5. In White or Black?
6. Jelly bean is rumored to be out in Q1,13 with unlocked bootloader as well. Will that mean that CM and others will port their android version to 4x HD as well?
Anything else I should know before I make the purchase. This is my first time for a smart phone, so just trying to play safe.
Thanks in advance.
s3rial_kill3r said:
Hi,
I am about to buy this phone but there are a few things that are holding me back (or else, in India, sometimes it is coming out to be 33% cheaper than OneX or S3, which is just superb).
1. Camera quality - I saw the Neowin Review and it is the most honest review I've seen of this phone. Camera isn't its forte, but is a critical factor for me. With some 3rd party softwares, can it be any better, especially in darker settings?
2. Video - How good is the video with 3rd party softwares after updating the phone with 10h firmware update.?
3. I reckon that the battery issues are also taken care of with 10f/g or something like that?
4. How good is the music player with or without PowerAmp, especially with a headphone and not the standard speakers?
5. In White or Black?
6. Jelly bean is rumored to be out in Q1,13 with unlocked bootloader as well. Will that mean that CM and others will port their android version to 4x HD as well?
Anything else I should know before I make the purchase. This is my first time for a smart phone, so just trying to play safe.
Thanks in advance.
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1. I don't use any camera, so can't tell. But kholk says it's better with his rom.
2. same as 1.
3. Battery is not great, but also not bad. Highest drain has been away since v10e (Europe). If the phone gets unlocked, custom kernels will take care of the problem.
4. I haven't used PowerAmp and I don't have good headphones. Also something I care about less.
5. White version has a small black border around the screen. Also, the button backlight, which is widely used as a Notification LED, can't be seen as good as in the black version. Everything else is just a matter of personal preferences.
6. Yes, yes and yes.
s3rial_kill3r said:
Hi,
I am about to buy this phone but there are a few things that are holding me back (or else, in India, sometimes it is coming out to be 33% cheaper than OneX or S3, which is just superb).
1. Camera quality - I saw the Neowin Review and it is the most honest review I've seen of this phone. Camera isn't its forte, but is a critical factor for me. With some 3rd party softwares, can it be any better, especially in darker settings?
2. Video - How good is the video with 3rd party softwares after updating the phone with 10h firmware update.?
3. I reckon that the battery issues are also taken care of with 10f/g or something like that?
4. How good is the music player with or without PowerAmp, especially with a headphone and not the standard speakers?
5. In White or Black?
6. Jelly bean is rumored to be out in Q1,13 with unlocked bootloader as well. Will that mean that CM and others will port their android version to 4x HD as well?
Anything else I should know before I make the purchase. This is my first time for a smart phone, so just trying to play safe.
Thanks in advance.
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1. At first I was disapointed from the camera, but after flashing v10h it takes pretty good quality pictures,(big battery spender)
2. Video is not than good but u can change brightess so it takes NICE 1080p videos also can record with flash on, with good frame rate (I really love it)(Also ENORMOUS battery spender.)
3.there are nice battery tutorials which will make your batery drain unnoticable (I am curently 1d 13h 13min with 3g of 60 min usage over 4 hours talk time and wifi 30 min. So this is basic LIGHT usage but the battery is at 43% (CURRETLY TESTING THE BATTERY LIFE) ) with hard core use like ONLINE multyplayer games battery is spend for 3:30 - 4:30 hours
4. Standard music player is good not too loud on loudspeaker but on headphones it is pretty loud (for me), but Call speaker is not that loud
5. Black (It looks good)
6. YES, we are all waiting for that
Thank you both. I finally decided to buy it over LG L9. Both are fabulous phones but having the flagship phone and better reviews did it for me. It should be in my hands some time this week (online ordering). Am I happy? :laugh: :highfive:
ljubisa_sk said:
1. At first I was disapointed from the camera, but after flashing v10h it takes pretty good quality pictures,(big battery spender)
2. Video is not than good but u can change brightess so it takes NICE 1080p videos also can record with flash on, with good frame rate (I really love it)(Also ENORMOUS battery spender.)
3.there are nice battery tutorials which will make your batery drain unnoticable (I am curently 1d 13h 13min with 3g of 60 min usage over 4 hours talk time and wifi 30 min. So this is basic LIGHT usage but the battery is at 43% (CURRETLY TESTING THE BATTERY LIFE) ) with hard core use like ONLINE multyplayer games battery is spend for 3:30 - 4:30 hours
4. Standard music player is good not too loud on loudspeaker but on headphones it is pretty loud (for me), but Call speaker is not that loud
5. Black (It looks good)
6. YES, we are all waiting for that
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muellersmattes said:
1. I don't use any camera, so can't tell. But kholk says it's better with his rom.
2. same as 1.
3. Battery is not great, but also not bad. Highest drain has been away since v10e (Europe). If the phone gets unlocked, custom kernels will take care of the problem.
4. I haven't used PowerAmp and I don't have good headphones. Also something I care about less.
5. White version has a small black border around the screen. Also, the button backlight, which is widely used as a Notification LED, can't be seen as good as in the black version. Everything else is just a matter of personal preferences.
6. Yes, yes and yes.
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AW: [Q] Questions about the 4X
Then welcome to our community, you won't regret this, I think
...sent with my LG Optimus 4X HD...
Hi,
I also about to buy this phone. I coming from MOTO RAZR xt910 and my big worry is question: Are they confirmed to unlock bootloader? Moto also promised to do so and that's why I bought RAZR, now I ended up with this phone on stock ROM.
Good thing I saw, kholk working on CM, I know him back from SE Arc forum, he doin' grat job.
Overall, I like LG design, comparing phones 3 days, I reading, watching, etc... Last 2 left:
LG 4x vs SGS3
I thing I'll get LG 4x because of design, I really don't like SGS3 shape.
i have two friends which have s3 cause it "famous" them all have crack or scract at the edge.. i think s3 just fragile when it got drop but my 4x i think hundreds of got fall of the bed got thrown seriously still none.... forget gorilla glass 2 just think about the build quality
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Actually the only difference between Gorilla Glass 1 and 2 is that 2 is thinner. They both offer the same protection.
So... I've now given my HTC EVO 3D to my wife as a gift (not wrapped lol.. I just said she could have it so she has a nice phone)... and I've gone back to her old phone which is a Sony Vivaz. Now the only reason I got shot of the O2X in the first place was due to it lagging after even half a day, and the EVO 3D had 1GB of RAM and it doesn't lag at all. so.... basically.. now there is a stock LG ICS version (I assume there is looking at other threads?) has this resolved the lag? When I say lag, I mean it not even being able to play video's smoothly, and games nose diving in performance etc.
If this is the case... I'll probably be on the look-out for another O2X as I enjoyed having a nice bright screen and an HDMI port
Scougar said:
So... I've now given my HTC EVO 3D to my wife as a gift (not wrapped lol.. I just said she could have it so she has a nice phone)... and I've gone back to her old phone which is a Sony Vivaz. Now the only reason I got shot of the O2X in the first place was due to it lagging after even half a day, and the EVO 3D had 1GB of RAM and it doesn't lag at all. so.... basically.. now there is a stock LG ICS version (I assume there is looking at other threads?) has this resolved the lag? When I say lag, I mean it not even being able to play video's smoothly, and games nose diving in performance etc.
If this is the case... I'll probably be on the look-out for another O2X as I enjoyed having a nice bright screen and an HDMI port
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stock rom lags, but custom im sure is smooth and with no lags.
xadidas said:
stock rom lags, but custom im sure is smooth and with no lags.
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Prior to ICS the custom rom's/kernel's lagged badly as well.. like they were out of memory.... are you 100% they don't lag? i.e. you don't have to reset your phone daily just to watch a movie or play a 3D game?
well take into account that the device only has 348mb ram? So It's a bit memory hungry but ICS performance overall is quite nice
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stock rom lags, but custom im sure is smooth and with no lags.
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This is not true. Do you have direct experience? What rom do you use?
I'm using 30B stock LG in Italy and I must say that I finally can touch high smoothness and fast performance.
Never found this with custom roms.
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wals46 said:
This is not true. Do you have direct experience? What rom do you use?
I'm using 30B stock LG in Italy and I must say that I finally can touch high smoothness and fast performance.
Never found this with custom roms.
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The stock fettled rom always worked best for me. I tried stock kernel and stefans kernel and some others but it didn't make any difference to the lag that happened after a random amount of time (within a day). The phone itself would be fine, just video and game performance sucked after a while. To be clear.. on a fresh restart/boot of the phone the performance was EXCELLENT... just it degraded after a relatively short time, and was the deciding factor for selling it. If this has been resolved with ICS I would REALLLLLY like to know.
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well take into account that the device only has 348mb ram? So It's a bit memory hungry but ICS performance overall is quite nice
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I did take that into account. I found the best experience was with the fettled stock italian rom last year before ICS was released, but the phone always suffered with slow down, even within an hour of turning it on if I did something intensive like play a game or watch a video. It took half a day to a day to slow down if not doing anything intensive. It was REALLLLLY aggravating.
I do realise it has limited memory, but given it wasn't running ICS it really should have performed better for longer as such. If Tegra 2 needed more memory to continue running that that's what it should have had. It's an amazing phone (for the money) otherwise I thought.
If people who use there phone for video playback and say... playing a tegra 2 game like dungeon defenders could come in and comment on if performance degrades to getting REALLY bad frame rates after a while, I would really appreciate it. If you can go for a month or something playing games and watching video's without an issue, I REALLY like to hear about it.
@Scougar,
I'm very sorry for you.
I bought 2x on oct 2011, not for playing games as first goal, I have been happy with 20S (removing some unused system apps) for many months and now I am with 30B.
Good luck.
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dont know how anyone can say that cm10 is smooth for example (havent tried stock ics yet tho), because its just so awfully slow for me, lags more than cm7, im sure its because of higher ram consumption. even with swap partition enabled. i mean it IS very smooth, when it works that is, but it quite often has these awful slowdowns for me when the phone just puts me on ignore mode lol
i mean its pathetic, cant even have 2 tabs open in chrome without having to reload the pages after switching tabs. movies and games work great tho, never had any issues, on any android version. best thing about this phone really.
Look i understand what you are saying but the weird thing is with the build from jan 2013+ the performance is just amazing..
And I never experienced a bsod nor a freeze nor a slowdown and not even a single fc i really don't knoa but some people have strange p990's or i just got myself a special one eheh.
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Really.cm10 is the smoothest exp. i ever had on our phone
Smoother then modded ics couse of fps and fluidity...ics and cm10 rock's on our phone,really no lag for days...
wals46 said:
@Scougar,
I'm very sorry for you.
I bought 2x on oct 2011, not for playing games as first goal, I have been happy with 20S (removing some unused system apps) for many months and now I am with 30B.
Good luck.
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lol, sorry for me? You shouldn't be, because I 'upgraded' to the EVO 3D, on an amazing sim-free deal for it, and it worked perfectly for me, without issue and had ICS for months before LG. I'm just considering coming back to the O2X as I really loved it apart from the lag. I would prefer to use a stock modded rom so that I get full functionality rather than fast performance and missing options.
I will keep my eyes open for one.. but they are pretty expensive for such an old phone (which is weird).
I am running CM10 on the new boot loader with custom kernel and its darn near perfect for me. Smooth as butter and battery life is as good as pure CM7 ROM.
Running on CM10 with ICS bootloader....It is very smooth & lag free for me
Link---http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2058231
Agreed,Stock ICS lags very bad,installed CM10 and the phone is damn smooth!
Scougar said:
lol, sorry for me? You shouldn't be, because I 'upgraded' to the EVO 3D, on an amazing sim-free deal for it, and it worked perfectly for me, without issue and had ICS for months before LG. I'm just considering coming back to the O2X as I really loved it apart from the lag. I would prefer to use a stock modded rom so that I get full functionality rather than fast performance and missing options.
I will keep my eyes open for one.. but they are pretty expensive for such an old phone (which is weird).
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Try stock ICS 30B and you'll be satisfied.
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jineeshmm said:
Running on CM10 with ICS bootloader....It is very smooth & lag free for me
Link---http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2058231
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No lags with stock LG ICS 30B, very smooth full functons and stable.
Maybe in some months we'll have a stable CM10.1; CM7 took at least six months to be a stable version (missing of some functions).
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So recently, a pretty good deal approached me where I have a chance to sell my 4X HD and buy a nexus 4 for a reasonable amonth of money. I was pretty disappointed from the performance in games, camera quality and sound so this deal came in handy, but now when the leaked jelly bean update has been showing pretty good improvements in all ways I dont want to regret selling this phone. As I didnt even hold the nexus 4, just saw a ton of reviews, I'm asking for some advice if I should stick with the phone or change it, from some experienced users.
Do you guys think that the new update will bring much better performance and overall make it on par with the nexus 4?? What advantages would I get getting the nexus 4 in this case ( battery, screen, etc)
Thanks..
Battery is somewhat improved but still not amazing, games also improved a little, shadowgun thd for example now doesnt lag at all. Im curious to see how development goes with the unlocked bootloader, but if someone gave me a nexus 4 to swap i would. The question is how much money will you lose, and is it worth it? Personally ive always wanted a nexus phone for googles support but wouldnt pay the prices
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I find dead trigger unplayable on ultra high with this jb...
In v10h it was smooth as butter
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alekthefirst said:
I find dead trigger unplayable on ultra high with this jb...
In v10h it was smooth as butter
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Mine plays ok, just lags in first few seconds, did the same in 10h
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Take the nexus, at least then it's 100% unlockable from the get-go.
objectively: Nexus4 has just better specs than P880, right?
but i think that highly modded P880 (for example with future CM10.1 and 3.4 kernel by kholk) will catch up stocky Nexus4 a little
Nexus 4. Better specs, overwhelming support. The 4X will never catch up to the better specs of the N4. Software can only help up to a point, then hardware wins out.
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Nexus 4 is better but it depends on how much you're paying for the upgrade.
exFAT said:
Nexus 4. Better specs, overwhelming support. The 4X will never catch up to the better specs of the N4. Software can only help up to a point, then hardware wins out.
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true word.
Thnaks guys, I'll probably go for the nexus then It looks cool anyway and I like to change things from time to time I was a bit concern that it doesant have an expandeble memory, nor you can change battery , but I think 16 gigs will be okay. BTW What about the battery lifon on nexus 4. I've red a lot of pages on the nexus threads and it seems that majority is reporting not a good battery life at all, so are the reviews i've seen. But some say that it can last for 2 days with no problem.. I was pretty satisfied with the baterry life on 4x HD as after root and freezing some aps I could do 2 days no with no problem, and ti should be even bettter with jelly bean. Hope the nexus 4 wont last mi for 8 HOUrs or so as I'm used to 2 days
any personal experience ??
I think that nexus 4 is much better because it has much better hardware and awesome software support
reas0n said:
objectively: Nexus4 has just better specs than P880, right?
but i think that highly modded P880 (for example with future CM10.1 and 3.4 kernel by kholk) will catch up stocky Nexus4 a little
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Is it really possible to get 3.4 kernel unless nvidia releases sources? I doubt it since Nexus 7 running tegra 3 has only 3.1.10, I would too love to see 3.4 kernel on o4x.
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I know that every single man have problem with lagging, but trust me a quad core 1.5Ghz processor is not ment to lag at all, so I found that after changing cpu profile on my 4x HD to "performance" I got no lag in games a so, I noticed that with the default CPU profile playing games actives only ONE core .
I think that every thing will be good in the future I HOPE so
ljubisa_sk said:
I know that every single man have problem with lagging, but trust me a quad core 1.5Ghz processor is not ment to lag at all, so I found that after changing cpu profile on my 4x HD to "performance" I got no lag in games a so, I noticed that with the default CPU profile playing games actives only ONE core .
I think that every thing will be good in the future I HOPE so
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You are delusional, it lags a lot on any cpu governor, even more we dont have custom kernel (read custom cpu - gpu scaling).
At this time LG 4X is not even close to LG NEXUS 4, maybe it will never be...so 4X is a LG - NVIDIA collaboration failure.
Happy marriage is LG & QUALCOMM...
nedooo said:
You are delusional, it lags a lot on any cpu governor, even more we dont have custom kernel (read custom cpu - gpu scaling).
At this time LG 4X is not even close to LG NEXUS 4, maybe it will never be...so 4X is a LG - NVIDIA collaboration failure.
Happy marriage is LG & QUALCOMM...
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I think its devs fault, some games are perfectly smooth! Shadowgun thd that lagged on ics works great on jb. The problem is devs arent making their games use multiple cores yet they are putting them on high graphics, causing lags. Whats strange is if you look at tegra phones on nvidia site the optimus 4x isnt listed. Something about LG power management must make it hard to allow multithreading in games compared to.the one x
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nedooo said:
You are delusional, it lags a lot on any cpu governor, even more we dont have custom kernel (read custom cpu - gpu scaling).
At this time LG 4X is not even close to LG NEXUS 4, maybe it will never be...so 4X is a LG - NVIDIA collaboration failure.
Happy marriage is LG & QUALCOMM...
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The console Ouya is a failure???
S.O Android 4.1, Tegra 3 to 1,5ghz and 1Gb ram...
This console have games optimized.The 4X have same spects.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ouya
WillySonicteam said:
The console Ouya is a failure???
S.O Android 4.1, Tegra 3 to 1,5ghz and 1Gb ram...
This console have games optimized.The 4X have same spects.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ouya
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You don't have a clue do you?
First it's not same chipset: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tegra_3#Tegra_3
Second more important there is no need for battery saver on console...
Third: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-OYKd8SVrI
when comparing the nexus 4 to the p880, nobody mentioned that the p880 has 16gig and must be compared to the more expensive nexus 4, and furthermore has a micro sd card slot.
do you think its fun to have 3 games like gta vc, nfs mw and horn on the device and BAM! the memory is completely full?
not having an sd card is a complete no-go for me, and after i got rid of my iphone i really didnt want to go into such a closed world again.
LamerDuck said:
when comparing the nexus 4 to the p880, nobody mentioned that the p880 has 16gig and must be compared to the more expensive nexus 4, and furthermore has a micro sd card slot.
do you think its fun to have 3 games like gta vc, nfs mw and horn on the device and BAM! the memory is completely full?
not having an sd card is a complete no-go for me, and after i got rid of my iphone i really didnt want to go into such a closed world again.
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Ouch! It only comes in 8gb? Didnt realize that, i got my 4x for gaming
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Mahalsk said:
Thnaks guys, I'll probably go for the nexus then It looks cool anyway and I like to change things from time to time I was a bit concern that it doesant have an expandeble memory, nor you can change battery , but I think 16 gigs will be okay. BTW What about the battery lifon on nexus 4. I've red a lot of pages on the nexus threads and it seems that majority is reporting not a good battery life at all, so are the reviews i've seen. But some say that it can last for 2 days with no problem.. I was pretty satisfied with the baterry life on 4x HD as after root and freezing some aps I could do 2 days no with no problem, and ti should be even bettter with jelly bean. Hope the nexus 4 wont last mi for 8 HOUrs or so as I'm used to 2 days
any personal experience ??
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The "my phone can last 2 days with no problem" shouldn't be taken as a thuth, my p880 can last 2 days without a problem but only if i use it lightly.
You should investigate how many hours will it last when gaming, watching movies or internet and then you will know if it really worth the hassle of getting a new phone.
And by the way, if the nexus has no expandable memory then you better be sure you won't need it, i'm not the kind of guy that stores 5 full movies or even 1000 songs but with only 5 or 6 games, a few apps and like 300 songs i already got 8 GB full out of the 12 GB available on my p880.
What i would do is wait until the official release of the JB for my P880, i'm pretty sure they will fix a LOT of things in that version including gaming, internet, apps and they will unlock the BL (just be realistic and don't expect your phone to become ultra mega fast and that the battery will run for 30 days straight without charge)
This Leaked release version of Jelly bean is obviosly incomplete and with several bugs and honestly i think LG leaked this version just to get rid of the people who were trying to hack their site.
Be patient and you'll be fine.
P.S. excuse my broken english, it's not my native language.
Hey guys,
I think about buying the 4x HD. But know in see that theres a very small community for this phone. Isn't it as good as i heard or what? I know this phone for a while now and it's not Brand new anymore (i think), so it can't be the reaon. But why are here so few devs and ROMs?
And my last question: is there a Chance of getting an unlocked bootloader some day?
I really need a New phone now, cause now i stuck with my Galaxy S Plus for 2 years now
THX in advance...
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I came from having a Galaxy S and yes, the community is much smaller than of the almighty phone of ours, but the device itself has been so underrated. Except for minor hiccups, IMO the phone is great. I was lucky enough to get it now, when the bootloader has been unlocked and Jelly Bean is around the corner.
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m17b said:
I came from having a Galaxy S and yes, the community is much smaller than of the almighty phone of ours, but the device itself has been so underrated. Except for minor hiccups, IMO the phone is great. I was lucky enough to get it now, when the bootloader has been unlocked and Jelly Bean is around the corner.
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THX for reply. I think if it gets CM10.1 fully working, i’ll buy it if there isn't a phone as good as the 4x HD for that prize (about 300 Euro in germany) than
. I just need CM, i can't live without it anymore (been on CM since CM7)
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Yeah, CM is great! But don't worry - the firmwares LG is rolling out are great too! Clean menus, added functionality and very customisable. They should just fix the occasional lag and the Tegra drivers. Some games have a low frame rate, while on other Tegra 3 devices they run smoothly.
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m17b said:
Yeah, CM is great! But don't worry - the firmwares LG is rolling out are great too! Clean menus, added functionality and very customisable. They should just fix the occasional lag and the Tegra drivers. Some games have a low frame rate, while on other Tegra 3 devices they run smoothly.
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Uhhh... Are there huge laggs, or are there just sometimes mini-laggs? Cause' on my SGS+ NFS-MW, Shadowgun, etc... run flawlessly
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Lutschie said:
Uhhh... Are there huge laggs, or are there just sometimes mini-laggs? Cause' on my SGS+ NFS-MW, Shadowgun, etc... run flawlessly
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Welcome to our forum .
About games lags it is not a problem with phone ... as you can see the THD games are running very smoothly (Riptide gb , shadowgun ...etc ) while some others are lagging . This is a problem with game compatibility . So if you see the benchmark scores it nearly has the same as SGS3 . Personally my phone beats the SGS3 (With tweaks and MODs) in the benchmark , it got a higher score (about 1300 in the old Antutu (2.9.x) while SGS3 about 12xx) .
About the Devs ,, this is a new phone ,, every new phone will get a little Devs until it be become old .
About bootloaders ,, now we have an unlocked bootloaders (see the JB updates info and CWM Recovery thread)
Personally I bought this phone because it is the cheapest Quad-core phone in my country and I see it as an Excellent phone with its low price .
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Uhhh... Are there huge laggs, or are there just sometimes mini-laggs? Cause' on my SGS+ NFS-MW, Shadowgun, etc... run flawlessly
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I had SGS (better GPU than SGS+), and SGS2 (GPU OC'ed to SGS3 speed and further) and SGS3, and 4X is is great as is any of those...
What you call flawless (Adreno 205 - I also had Incredible 2), somebody in now days calls a joke...
My recommendation for you is, if you are completely satisfied with SGS+, stick to it and upgrade only when you feel dissatisfaction...
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nedooo said:
I had SGS (better GPU than SGS+), and SGS2 (GPU OC'ed to SGS3 speed and further) and SGS3, and 4X is is great as is any of those...
What you call flawless (Adreno 205 - I also had Incredible 2), somebody in now days calls a joke...
My recommendation for you is, if you are completely satisfied with SGS+, stick to it and upgrade only when you feel dissatisfaction...
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I'm not completly satisfied anymore. I really want i bigger screen, better camera (even if its here not much better as i red) and also my phone laggs with to many open tasks caused by low RAM.
I really like my S+ and toke much work on it (raised the antutu score from the beginning(3500) up to now(6800)), but it's not uptodate anymore i really love the exitement of a New phone.
I also want to have a LG cause i really love the UI (got launcher and Theme on CM10 )
And i CAN play flawless, if i take my bigMEM (398mb of RAM), OC to 1824, clean RAM and taking gpu libs from galaxy w before playin'
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Welcome to our forum
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Personally I bought this phone because it is the cheapest Quad-core phone in my country and I see it as an Excellent phone with its low price .
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First thanks for the nice welcome
And yeah, that why i'm so interestet in this phone
wait a little more... I believe this is not a small comunnity... all it was needed was the boot acess...
I could even venture in this terrain... why not...the problem is lack of knowledge and time... but we must walk before we can run...
Small community doesn't equal small amount of development or community support. In other sections there are also only ~20 active members, but there's also tons of noobs asking "which is the best rom" or "did i brick my phone" or "help me unlock i can't root" and stuff. There's four active devs around (IIRC), and dexter alone has made more stuff possible here than many devs on other sections. Now the bootloader is unlocked, we'll just have to wait for compiled roms and for LG to publish their sources, which should be in a few days. Then kholk can finish his kernel and we'll hopefully have a fully working CM10.1.
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muellersmattes said:
Small community doesn't equal small amount of development or community support. In other sections there are also only ~20 active members, but there's also tons of noobs asking "which is the best rom" or "did i brick my phone" or "help me unlock i can't root" and stuff. There's four active devs around (IIRC), and dexter alone has made more stuff possible here than many devs on other sections. Now the bootloader is unlocked, we'll just have to wait for compiled roms and for LG to publish their sources, which should be in a few days. Then kholk can finish his kernel and we'll hopefully have a fully working CM10.1.
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I haven't said that the devs aren't good i just said that there aren't much. I just can compair the 4x HD with my SGS+, cause it was my first and only smartphone (beside my samsung wave, but that wasn't with Android), and there where actually a pretty huge community and devs after this period of time.
And i decided to by this phone now. But now i got one question left:
Which COLOUR should i take? I like the black one but the white one looks also pretty cool (haven't seen both in reallife, that why i'm askin)
And THANKS for all replys, i think its a good start for the phone for me.
Cheers :beer:
"...nothing is more powerful than a young boy's wish. Except an Apache helicopter..." -Ted
Hi there!
Have been using SII for about a year and a half now.
I don't know how but recently i have got tired of this 4 inchy and
really want a bigger screen.
And I'm getting an offer to exchange it with galaxy note. On paper galaxy note seems
ted powerful and with a better display as well.
But what I'm really concerned about is the real life difference in performance. I have heard from some
friends that NOTE is actually on a bit slower side than SII.
Would love to hear from guys who have used both the phones and please suggest should I go for the exchange.
Thanks.
walkermoon said:
Hi there!
Have been using SII for about a year and a half now.
I don't know how but recently i have got tired of this 4 inchy and
really want a bigger screen.
And I'm getting an offer to exchange it with galaxy note. On paper galaxy note seems
ted powerful and with a better display as well.
But what I'm really concerned about is the real life difference in performance. I have heard from some
friends that NOTE is actually on a bit slower side than SII.
Would love to hear from guys who have used both the phones and please suggest should I go for the exchange.
Thanks.
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It's barely noticeable slower. Specially in screens transitions and scrolling through lists that have images.
Maybe because of the higher resolution of the screen.
But in my opinion totally worth the upgrade
The bigger screen makes watching videos and playing games an amazing experience
Total worth the upgrade mate.
Go ahead and do it. Good luck :thumbup:
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Thats what I'm really concerned about. The reslotion of the galaxy note is almost 70 to 80 percent more than galaxy SII.
Theoretically that should mean galaxy note require around 1.8 to 2 Ghz dual core processor if I'm right to perform as snappier as galaxy SII.
And that's why there's a lag in UI and general use I guess.
I really like the s pen and the screen size.
But I do feel HD resolution is too much of an asking for a dual core.
Please correct and guide me if I'm wrong.
Waiting for your comments eagerly.
As far as I know, the pixels are "moved around" by the GPU , not the CPU.
So the processor has nothing to do with the lag.
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Thats what I'm really concerned about. The reslotion of the galaxy note is almost 70 to 80 percent more than galaxy SII.
Theoretically that should mean galaxy note require around 1.8 to 2 Ghz dual core processor if I'm right to perform as snappier as galaxy SII.
And that's why there's a lag in UI and general use I guess.
I really like the s pen and the screen size.
But I do feel HD resolution is too much of an asking for a dual core.
Please correct and guide me if I'm wrong.
Waiting for your comments eagerly.
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The pixels are rendered by the GPU, not the CPU, but yes, they are also the same, and it's the reason for the difference.
It can get pretty smooth tough. Don't worry about performance. You won't have any trouble
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sherbibv said:
As far as I know, the pixels are "moved around" by the GPU , not the CPU.
So the processor has nothing to do with the lag.
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Thanks guys
Getting it tommorow
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Thanks to all.
Got Note finally. And after a month of use I don't think I would look back. Cheers.
Yes, the note is slower than s2. I also can't use android 4.1.2 as it's extremely laggy (this may happen only with my note).
The phones screen size makes it impossible to comfortably use this phone with one hand, so You mostly have to use both of Your hands.
If You're aiming for a bigger screen or for the spen's precision I would definitely recommend You this phone.
I must say I wouldn't go back to s2,as the spen is very important for me.
What do You want from this phone?
Nvm. Haven't seen the last post
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jakuburban said:
Yes, the note is slower than s2. I also can't use android 4.1.2 as it's extremely laggy (this may happen only with my note).
The phones screen size makes it impossible to comfortably use this phone with one hand, so You mostly have to use both of Your hands.
If You're aiming for a bigger screen or for the spen's precision I would definitely recommend You this phone.
I must say I wouldn't go back to s2,as the spen is very important for me.
What do You want from this phone?
Nvm. Haven't seen the last post
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I really like the spen. But the lag problem is an issue with me too. I flashed indian version first and a few days back
I flashed the Uk xxlt9 firmware(obviously aftera full wipe). But I dont see much difference in those 2 versions. I guess jelly bean
is really too much for this phone(atleast stock one). I tried cyanogenmod too but I really missed the neat built in features of the spen so I
moved back to stock jelly bean. But its really annoying when a 200 dollar phone beats it in benchmarks and general use. Or may be I'm
expecting too much off this device.
After a month or so of use.. This is what I feel-
Stock jelly bean- Battery life is good(as long as u keep the screen off )
Typing and general UI is way too laggy.
Touchwiz is beautiful ( I know am the only one but I really like the design and transitions)
Spen is nicely integrated and snote is nicely designed. I use it a lot personally (only after it opens a decade to open)
Cyanogenmod 10.3 nightlies- Fluid and really usable. Sleek.
Flat and boring untill you dont use a theme.
Camera not at par with stock jb.
Huh.. A lot of writing i guess. These were my observations. But what I really want is stock experience with cyanogenmod like speed.
Is there anyone who's in same sort of situation like me.
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I really like the spen. But the lag problem is an issue with me too. I flashed indian version first and a few days back
I flashed the Uk xxlt9 firmware(obviously aftera full wipe). But I dont see much difference in those 2 versions. I guess jelly bean
is really too much for this phone(atleast stock one). I tried cyanogenmod too but I really missed the neat built in features of the spen so I
moved back to stock jelly bean. But its really annoying when a 200 dollar phone beats it in benchmarks and general use. Or may be I'm
expecting too much off this device.
After a month or so of use.. This is what I feel-
Stock jelly bean- Battery life is good(as long as u keep the screen off )
Typing and general UI is way too laggy.
Touchwiz is beautiful ( I know am the only one but I really like the design and transitions)
Spen is nicely integrated and snote is nicely designed. I use it a lot personally (only after it opens a decade to open)
Cyanogenmod 10.3 nightlies- Fluid and really usable. Sleek.
Flat and boring untill you dont use a theme.
Camera not at par with stock jb.
Huh.. A lot of writing i guess. These were my observations. But what I really want is stock experience with cyanogenmod like speed.
Is there anyone who's in same sort of situation like me.
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Finally someone that has the same problem with JB.
Man, I usually have 120-150 apps installed (I have to have them) and any JB ROM is UNUSABLE for me. Even stock JB laggs, after restoring my apps it's....agh If the phone wasn't so expensive I would throw it against the wall. Why did JB work on SGS2 like a charm and on the Note it sucks so much?
That's why I had to use ICS. It doesn't have the Spen hovering & scrolling features (which I really miss ) , but it's fast and almost lag free.
However CM10.2 is the fastest I've used so far. I'm really astonished, it's a beta ROM and it's way better than official one (WTF?).
I bought this phone for the Spen and that's why I'm using it a lot. I only hope that the Spen won't start to fell out of the phone as it's getting easier to take it out.
I think I will never switch from the note series, as the spen is veeery important for me (well, maybe when there will be some other phone with thin stylus )
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Finally someone that has the same problem with JB.
Man, I usually have 120-150 apps installed (I have to have them) and any JB ROM is UNUSABLE for me. Even stock JB laggs, after restoring my apps it's....agh If the phone wasn't so expensive I would throw it against the wall. Why did JB work on SGS2 like a charm and on the Note it sucks so much?
That's why I had to use ICS. It doesn't have the Spen hovering & scrolling features (which I really miss ) , but it's fast and almost lag free.
However CM10.2 is the fastest I've used so far. I'm really astonished, it's a beta ROM and it's way better than official one (WTF?).
I bought this phone for the Spen and that's why I'm using it a lot. I only hope that the Spen won't start to fell out of the phone as it's getting easier to take it out.
I think I will never switch from the note series, as the spen is veeery important for me (well, maybe when there will be some other phone with thin stylus )
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Gimme cyanogenmod with spen features.. I would grab it anyday.
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Gimme cyanogenmod with spen features.. I would grab it anyday.
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Yeah, give me too hehe.
I would like to see all those hovering etc. stuff. Maybe it will be possible if official 4.3 comes out to note 2 and then it will be ported to our note.
But I don't think so
And the throwing part.. I feel exactly like you.. Lost brothers? Lol
I dont see 4.3 coming to this lovely device anytime soon. But the main point here shouldn't be just running after the latest android version. It should be making the current firmware as best as it can be. How come GB and ICS be faster than JB, no one knows except samsung or god. Lol
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I dont see 4.3 coming to this lovely device anytime soon. But the main point here shouldn't be just running after the latest android version. It should be making the current firmware as best as it can be. How come GB and ICS be faster than JB, no one knows except samsung or god. Lol
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Ok, the older android versions don't require so good specs, but there shouldn't be such a big difference between ics and jb. I hope the notes 2 official android 4.3 will be ported to our old note 1.
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