Hey guys, so I'm getting a new phone on AT&T and I have been deciding between the HTC1X and the AHD. I have been leaning towards the AHD but the lack of root is worrying me. I had a A4G before and the software update and it somehow killed the camcorder by not letting play back captured footage. I am worried with Moto's updates and support for their phones and decided I needed a phone that was rootable. Now I do know that currently there is no root for this device but I wanted to ask if it is even possible, and if so, how close are we to getting that root. Thanks.
You should use search button, buddy.
Wrong section too.
Moved and closed.
It's officially official...
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/12/06/motorola-updates-android-software-upgrade-page/
We already knew due to the soak announcement, but it's good to hear it from the horses mouth!
Deep rooted in the mAtrix HD...
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I hope it lives to see a couple more updates.
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Assuming the soak test hasn't started and they run for a week, that probably means mid to late December, but still by the end of 2012 like they originally promised.
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I'll take it whenever! I've been too paranoid to load the leak, and I'm an SS3 N00B so preserving root with voodoo (maybe) and installing the OTA is fine with me! I'm pretty cool with no root for a little while anyways, I'm sure someone will find an exploit in the JB framework...
Deep rooted in the mAtrix HD...
http://android-gz.com
hwlester said:
Assuming the soak test hasn't started and they run for a week, that probably means mid to late December, but still by the end of 2012 like they originally promised.
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Yes i'm VERY Happy to see I will be seeing Jelly Bean before the end of the year. I think AFTER that is when i'll think about rooting the phone so I can get rid of all the damn AT&T bloatware on there.
I am pretty computer savvy and i've built several of my own computers over the years but the thought of rooting the phone kind of intimidates me because I know almost NOTHING about the process and I still as yet have to see a clear thread that says "This is how you do it, This is how you undo it" in case something goes wrong with the phone that's not software related and it needs to be returned or whatnot.
Also there are alot of threads about custom rom versions but they say you need to have the "base" 4.1.1 version first which again i'm a bit lost at trying to sift thru all the forum posts to find. Heh.
P.S. Annnnnndddd...i'm a retard. Somehow right after I made this post when it went back to the post list page for this forum now right there in my face is a post titled "Jellybean rom leak - step by step guide for updating" LMAO.
I do have a more pertinent question of someone with some know how here though also. I saw that Moto has started selling the developer version of this phone which i'm assuming has an unlocked bootloader as from what I understand that is kind of the point of the developer version. So I am curious, once someone has this developer phone will that make it easier for someone to develop something that is easier/faster/more stable to root for us poor schmucks who can't afford the 400+ duckets this phone is costing and also since we already have the phone to begin with?
RangerVegas said:
Yes i'm VERY Happy to see I will be seeing Jelly Bean before the end of the year. I think AFTER that is when i'll think about rooting the phone so I can get rid of all the damn AT&T bloatware on there.
I am pretty computer savvy and i've built several of my own computers over the years but the thought of rooting the phone kind of intimidates me because I know almost NOTHING about the process and I still as yet have to see a clear thread that says "This is how you do it, This is how you undo it" in case something goes wrong with the phone that's not software related and it needs to be returned or whatnot.
Also there are alot of threads about custom rom versions but they say you need to have the "base" 4.1.1 version first which again i'm a bit lost at trying to sift thru all the forum posts to find. Heh.
P.S. Annnnnndddd...i'm a retard. Somehow right after I made this post when it went back to the post list page for this forum now right there in my face is a post titled "Jellybean rom leak - step by step guide for updating" LMAO.
I do have a more pertinent question of someone with some know how here though also. I saw that Moto has started selling the developer version of this phone which i'm assuming has an unlocked bootloader as from what I understand that is kind of the point of the developer version. So I am curious, once someone has this developer phone will that make it easier for someone to develop something that is easier/faster/more stable to root for us poor schmucks who can't afford the 400+ duckets this phone is costing and also since we already have the phone to begin with?
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We will be hard pressed to find someone who will buy the dev edition when there are better phones for cheaper prices and more development.
SirHoover2010 said:
We will be hard pressed to find someone who will buy the dev edition when there are better phones for cheaper prices and more development.
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Yea which is kind of sad considering. I mean it seems to me the only really bad thing about this phone i've found from using it is the lack of much user ROM and the stupid low Mah battery they put in it when the one from the Maxx will fit almost equally as well, and would have fit perfectly if the phone had been developed around it. <sigh>
It seems from the # of forum posts that the Galaxy S III is pretty much "THE" phone to have. I have a friend who just got one a month after I got my Atrix and she likes it well enough, but I can't understand what idiot at samsung decided it was a good idea to leave out USB Mass Storage on the thing, although i've heard that's getting officialy fixed, or may have been already since I don't really follow that phone.
The phone I upgraded from was an old Samsung with a physical slide out keyboard before the android days and the thing was junk to me, about all it was good for was texting because my fat fingers worked well with the physical keys. But almost all the apps on it were useless junk and alot never even ran. So i'm kind of burned out on Samsung right now.
I've been in computers for years and have learned to trust Motorola for reliability and stability and while their products have not always been hugely inspired or innovative, they have always been reliable to me.
I had thought I saw one of the people who seemed to be doing development for this phone in a message say they already had a developer phone on order or whatnot. But maybe it was just my wishful thinking. In any case I hope this phone dosnt die some slow horrible death in here just because it's not as bright and shiny and full of awesomeness as some other phones out now. Once the Jellybean update officially comes out for the phone hopefully there will still be good people in here who can easily make the phone rootable and that will pretty much be good for me for the 2 years till AT&T says I can get the next shiny new toy out then. LOL. Custom roms are nice but i'm mostly interested in being able to get rid of all the AT&T crapware in the phone because it's pretty much just useless spacewaste to me.
Itll come out December 31st
Will I get the update with a Straight Talk sim in my phone?
Visa Declined said:
Will I get the update with a Straight Talk sim in my phone?
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The SIM in your phone won't affect you getting updates.
I was disappointed when I saw Bell wouldn't get it until Q1 '13. I have a Bell Atrix HD, but I use it on T-mobile. Could someone explain to me why an AT&T ROM would brick the phone? I don't get it.
What do you guys think it will be? 4.2 or 4.2.1?
Deep rooted in the mAtrix HD...
http://android-gz.com
we're probably never going to get 4.2.
capran said:
I was disappointed when I saw Bell wouldn't get it until Q1 '13. I have a Bell Atrix HD, but I use it on T-mobile. Could someone explain to me why an AT&T ROM would brick the phone? I don't get it.
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We ran into this problem over at the A2 forum. Hardware is all the same, so to speak. But the firmware is slightly different. I guess it would be like comparing windows XP vs windows 7?......or maybe that's a bad example.
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matt99017d said:
We ran into this problem over at the A2 forum. Hardware is all the same, so to speak. But the firmware is slightly different. I guess it would be like comparing windows XP vs windows 7?......or maybe that's a bad example.
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Bad example
If you have a locked bootloader each partition is signature checked for your device and region/carrier. Bell files will brick ATT phones and vice versa thanks to locked bootloaders.
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IP IHI II IL said:
I'll take it whenever! I've been too paranoid to load the leak, and I'm an SS3 N00B so preserving root with voodoo (maybe) and installing the OTA is fine with me! I'm pretty cool with no root for a little while anyways, I'm sure someone will find an exploit in the JB framework...
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Are you sure you will be able to retain root with the update? What method did you use to root in the first place by the way?
Thanks.
mattlgroff said:
Bad example
If you have a locked bootloader each partition is signature checked for your device and region/carrier. Bell files will brick ATT phones and vice versa thanks to locked bootloaders.
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I thought we had finally unlocked the bootloader?? Man, this Android business is complex.
capran said:
I thought we had finally unlocked the bootloader?? Man, this Android business is complex.
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Since the Atrix 4G-era no Motorolas have gotten bootloader unlocks if they were meant to stay locked.
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Blue Bell said:
Are you sure you will be able to retain root with the update? What method did you use to root in the first place by the way?
Thanks.
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I really can't speak to the OTA, but I've read that those who installed the JB leak had success with Voodoo Root Keeper. It worked for me when the RAZR got ICS finally... I am just assuming that it will work when we get the OTA.
Deep rooted in the mAtrix HD...
http://android-gz.com
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I really can't speak to the OTA, but I've read that those who installed the JB leak had success with Voodoo Root Keeper. It worked for me when the RAZR got ICS finally... I am just assuming that it will work when we get the OTA.
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Thanks, is it this one? https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.projectvoodoo.otarootkeeper
So it would have a better chance of retaining root with the OTA than SuperSU Premium?
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Since the Atrix 4G-era no Motorolas have gotten bootloader unlocks if they were meant to stay locked.
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I saw on your other thread where you tested the various methods to root the Atrix HD that you mentioned rooting might take you off the OTA path. Do you mean to say that if I use motofail2go to root the phone, there is a chance that I may not be able to get the OTA update to JB when it rolls out?
Thanks.
I am not having an easy time finding a clear cut way to root my phone. I know that since 5.1.1 came out like 2-3 weeks ago that I need to be on 5.0.2. So I need to know how to revert back to that. And then I also know that you need to do some weird **** from what I am used to to just simply root our phones. Something with the OE2 to OF3 and some other things related to that. Really weird to me when I am used to more or less pressing a button and I am rooted...... This being said I need to know how to root my phone too. And if it is possible to root 5.1.1 then those instructions would be preferred(saying it is stable/tested/etc.
I ultimately want to be able to use either XtreStoLite ROMs. Preferably the Odex Pure Edition though but from what I've read when you do the 5.0.2 version there was some call audio problems...which is no good for a phone lol.
Last phone I really tried to do **** with was the HTC Aria. Had an S3 for awhile but didn't feel like doing anything with it since it was so old at the time I received it(almost 2 years ago now)
/startrant
I feel like XDA is way more confusing than it used to be. Either that or the community for the S6 isn't the best from other phones I've used, personally. This new UI for XDA is also weird to me as well(doubt it is very new though).
Used to seeing a clear cut:
How To Root thread(s)
List of Custom Roms thread(s)
other useful threads that make going around the phones forum so much easier than having to use the search engine.
it definitely doesn't help that more or less all other versions of the phone work with each other easily vs ATT being ****ing douchebags and can't even just release the current OS right when literally every other company does.
Conclusion.... **** ATT... Long ago I wanted to go to verizon but wasn't in a position to but figured at this point in time(3-4 years later, maybe more) that things might have changed. **** ATT
/endrant
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<lots of complaining>
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There is no way to root your phone, the bootloader is signed we don't have the keys.
In addition it would behoove you greatly if you learned to both search and to be knowledgeable as to what your 'one click' solutions do. Without knowing what your clicking you'll find it hard to fix when things go wrong.
In short though your SoL here, unless your phone is on an exceptionally early build you can't root, and I doubt it's on that early of a build unless you made an effort to keep it from updating and bought the phone close to launch.
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OP asked about reverting to 5.0.2, so it's pretty safe to assume he's on 5.1.1.
OP - at this point, as posted above, all you can do is wait and hope. There is no way to revert to a rootable build from 5.1.1, nor root 5.1.1, on an ATT branded device, at this time. If you are committed to wanting root and custom ROMs, don't buy any AT&T or VZW branded devices, and don't buy devices that are running anything other than mainstream processors. Nexus is your friend. Or revert back to your Aria - I'm still using mine, running CM11, as a media player.
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I know 5.1.1 can't be rooted but I thought 5.0.2 can be. But from the sounds of it once I have 5.1.1 installed then my bootloader is changed? And reverting back doesn't change the loader? Oh, after reading the last part of the 1st reply. It sounds like all those people that say they've rooted there 5.0.2 version was just because they purchased at launch?
As for understanding the 'one click' solutions. At the times I did know what they did. The forums for the phone(s) I was using at the time were a lot more neat and straightforward(this is apparently one word, didn't know...) to understand. Like I said, this new layout of XDA(it is new to me even if it might be 2 years old or something) isn't as nice/useful personally. And as for searching, I do but once again the searches are different than how other forums do searches. Or maybe it is just the cluttered feeling I get from the S6 forums maybe. Not sure.
P.S.(_Dennis_) No **** it is a lot of complaining...granted I basically got the phone for free because of how AT&T does there plans and ****...this still makes me hate AT&T even more than I used to...at least with my older phones there was hope for someone to make ROMs/Roots/etc for the phone, just took longer because AT&T rides the short bus... So yes I will complain. But I still genuinely had questions I wanted answers. I know you had to read what I wrote but you didn't take it in I guess. Because the only way I would have some of that info is if I was searching. I just didn't know about only the launch models basically can be rooted and no others. Which is why I was asking about reverting to 5.0.2
I will thank you both for actually posting and answering my questions though. Versus in the normal S6 forum people just completely ignored me. So I do appreciate you guys answering me.
Ebay App no longer work on android 4.0.4, I haven't updated Android because if it work why fix it...
I have alway used ebay on my Mobile phone, but till Monday all I get is update E-bay then when I do I am told
that Android 4.0.4 is no longer compatible.... your making waves on calm waters
Is there any App work around for this problem, I have had to use a webpage shortcut to my home screen.......
thank you
Update your phone
Hi @Exorcist74,
I'm with you, generally on this... if it aint broke, dont fix it. That said, most of the more updated roms are rather mature on our device now. And anything is an improvement over ICS 4.0.4. Even if ya only go upto KitKat on 4.4.4
That said, there is only 2x outcomes with this....
Downgrade the App via APKMirror and look for an older version of the App, before it refuses to run on ICS 4.0.4. And if the nag is Server side, and not built into the App...
... Then ya either gonna have to upgrade the OS on our Note... or find another device?
Hope that helps, Lister
Thanks Lister Of Smeg,
fearmongering sell's that is the bottom line..
I'm not spending large amount of money for the sake of a free app
nor take the chance of Bricking for the same app
I have been thinking of updating my android (Galaxy Note N70000 with Brickbug) but every time I research the Rom it always end up defective in some way or other, so back to why fix it if its not broken...
Thanks again Lister for the good advice...
Dave
Exorcist74 said:
Thanks Lister Of Smeg,
fearmongering sell's that is the bottom line..
I'm not spending large amount of money for the sake of a free app
nor take the chance of Bricking for the same app
I have been thinking of updating my android (Galaxy Note N70000 with Brickbug) but every time I research the Rom it always end up defective in some way or other, so back to why fix it if its not broken...
Thanks again Lister for the good advice...
Dave
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Unfortunately, some important apps, like Amazon Kindle, were not working anymore for me as well. I did update my android system, and in case you're willing to try the updating route, I can testify that retired developer bauner has made a fantastic job on our good old N7000. I installed Phil's recovery, then installed his 7.1 (!) rom and the appropriate gapps, and I am very satisfied with the result so far. He also made and maintained 5.X and 6.X versions which are maybe even safer. He's bravely fighting planned obsolescence, and competently so. I did have to resize my partitions following his guide so that there would be enough space for the upgraded OS before installing it.
I find that it's also easy to find parts for the phone at a very cheap price on aliexpress, so I see no reason why I should stop using it in the next few years.
Hey y'all,and thank y'all for welcoming me. I'm Philip, a 52 yr old tinkerer. I've been reading post and using help guides from XDA for yrs, just never signed up. The info on here is top of the line and more trustworthy than anywhere else. I bricked my girlfriends Galaxy tab and a couple other devices some yrs back and just recently recovered the tab with help from y'all and a laptop from my neighbor. I admit I like the easy way out and diligently to get some of this done via ota files but I had it done in no time with the laptop and Samsung Kies. She currently has a new scepter 8 qlink tab which is the worst performing device I ever touched and I've been reading some discussions on here about maybe rooting it and flashing an update or custom ROM. Aside from the scepter 8 we have C5_Stratus Elite from True Connect that operates fairly decent but either the phone or android 11 won allow display over other apps even if you enable it in developer mode. I think I read somewhere that flashing to android 12 might fix it. It's not a super big deal but I have a few apps that require it but not allowed due to low end hardware. Anyway that's my story for now. Y'all have a good day.