Unlimited data no more!!! - Nexus 4 General

This is a heads up so take it as you may.
I just came from T-Mobile and one of the reps told me they had a really big meeting recently and T-Mobile is planning on retiring their unlimited data.
Signs that this might be true:
1: T-Mobile officially getting iPhone 5. We all know this means a flock of isheeps heading to T-Mobile for unlimited data and iPhone
2: LTE network currently rolling out. T-Mobile iPhone 5 will probably support LTE. So who really thinks you'd have unlimited LTE for around $70? Unheard of.
3: T-Mobile merging with metro pcs aiming to pass at&t as number 2 carrier. We all know the bigger a phone company gets, the less ****s they give about their customers.
4: all this new "unCarrier" crap they're dropping all has data of 2gb, 5gb and highest being 12gb.
I'm thinking this is all gonna happen either when the iPhone 5 is sent to T-Mobile or when their LTE network is solid enough across the boards. Let's look at Verizon when they got rid of their unlimited data and how LTE was spread almost instantly. But on the bright side, I believe from an article that I came across, they'll get rid of it and go back to throttling when LTE is out. What that means is when you go past your data allowance on LTE network, you get throttled down to 4g instead of edge/2g/3g.
Once again, this is all stuff I figure is gonna happen from all the recent changes going on. Feel free to comment your opinions and thoughts

Isn't that what they're doing now? Their plans just throttle you after a certain data amount, except the $70 unlimited everything(no throttling) plan.
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my confusion comes from when our FW was updated, our LTE radios got turned off.. - can anyone confirm this ?
so now T-Mobile is rolling out LTE, so where does that leave us ?

UltimateEnd said:
my confusion comes from when our FW was updated, our LTE radios got turned off.. - can anyone confirm this ?
so now T-Mobile is rolling out LTE, so where does that leave us ?
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We were never suppose to have lte be on
Our phones. It never went for FCC certification for lte.
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They must be retarded to get rid of unlimited data
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nighthawk626 said:
This is a heads up so take it as you may.
I just came from T-Mobile and one of the reps told me they had a really big meeting recently and T-Mobile is planning on retiring their unlimited data.
Signs that this might be true:
1: T-Mobile officially getting iPhone 5. We all know this means a flock of isheeps heading to T-Mobile for unlimited data and iPhone
2: LTE network currently rolling out. T-Mobile iPhone 5 will probably support LTE. So who really thinks you'd have unlimited LTE for around $70? Unheard of.
3: T-Mobile merging with metro pcs aiming to pass at&t as number 2 carrier. We all know the bigger a phone company gets, the less ****s they give about their customers.
4: all this new "unCarrier" crap they're dropping all has data of 2gb, 5gb and highest being 12gb.
I'm thinking this is all gonna happen either when the iPhone 5 is sent to T-Mobile or when their LTE network is solid enough across the boards. Let's look at Verizon when they got rid of their unlimited data and how LTE was spread almost instantly. But on the bright side, I believe from an article that I came across, they'll get rid of it and go back to throttling when LTE is out. What that means is when you go past your data allowance on LTE network, you get throttled down to 4g instead of edge/2g/3g.
Once again, this is all stuff I figure is gonna happen from all the recent changes going on. Feel free to comment your opinions and thoughts
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This won't be true for the foreseeable future since their new marketing campaign is centered around the option of unlimited data. Remember LTE is a more efficient use of spectrum so it can handle a larger load than other network types. They've also probably done their research on what the average consumer uses in data so they priced their unlimited plan based on the law of averages.
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nighthawk626 said:
This is a heads up so take it as you may.
I just came from T-Mobile and one of the reps told me they had a really big meeting recently and T-Mobile is planning on retiring their unlimited data.
Signs that this might be true:
1: T-Mobile officially getting iPhone 5. We all know this means a flock of isheeps heading to T-Mobile for unlimited data and iPhone
2: LTE network currently rolling out. T-Mobile iPhone 5 will probably support LTE. So who really thinks you'd have unlimited LTE for around $70? Unheard of.
3: T-Mobile merging with metro pcs aiming to pass at&t as number 2 carrier. We all know the bigger a phone company gets, the less ****s they give about their customers.
4: all this new "unCarrier" crap they're dropping all has data of 2gb, 5gb and highest being 12gb.
I'm thinking this is all gonna happen either when the iPhone 5 is sent to T-Mobile or when their LTE network is solid enough across the boards. Let's look at Verizon when they got rid of their unlimited data and how LTE was spread almost instantly. But on the bright side, I believe from an article that I came across, they'll get rid of it and go back to throttling when LTE is out. What that means is when you go past your data allowance on LTE network, you get throttled down to 4g instead of edge/2g/3g.
Once again, this is all stuff I figure is gonna happen from all the recent changes going on. Feel free to comment your opinions and thoughts
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Are you a writer for androidandme?
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pwc realtor said:
This won't be true for the foreseeable future since their new marketing campaign is centered around the option of unlimited data. Remember LTE is a more efficient use of spectrum so it can handle a larger load than other network types. They've also probably done their research on what the average consumer uses in data so they priced their unlimited plan based on the law of averages.
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This ^ and I work for T-Mobile and they most definitely are not going to be removing unlimited data lol stop trying to spread silly rumors.
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This isn't really anything to do with the Nexus 4, right?
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Verizon dropped unlimited data plans after it lost the right to block tethering apps in the Android market.
http://lifehacker.com/5933152/the-right-to-tether-what-the-verizonfcc-settlement-means-to-you
T-Mobile already bans tethering on it's unlimited plan, but allows it on metered plans.
They just don't want to end up competing with home broadband providers. Why pay for FIOS, when you can tether LTE?

what? does it make sense to remove unlimited data after releasing new plans this week? thats a marketing and pr nightmare.
thread needs to be closed
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T-Mobile unlimited data isn't going anywhere. They just spent a fortune on their network in all aspects. Now GTFO!

I work for tmobile and I can tell you that unlimited data is here to stay
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Lol you all have your opinions. I'm pretty sure everyone on Verizon felt the same way thinking LTE meant unlimited data for more people. Just remember, before the "no cap" commercials, T-Mobile has always been unlimited. Its still gonna be unlimited to a point where you pass a certain usage. But hell, let's all wait and see
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Oh and just because you work for T-Mobile doesn't mean you know ****. I know a lot of idiots that work at T-Mobile that I have to explain stuff to majority of the time. To some people its just a job
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nighthawk626 said:
Oh and just because you work for T-Mobile doesn't mean you know ****. I know a lot of idiots that work at T-Mobile that I have to explain stuff to majority of the time. To some people its just a job
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Take a chill pill
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nighthawk626 said:
Oh and just because you work for T-Mobile doesn't mean you know ****. I know a lot of idiots that work at T-Mobile that I have to explain stuff to majority of the time. To some people its just a job
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You're no more credible than anyone else here, bud. If anything, you're less credible for posting a RUMOR (From a rep no less. Irony much?) that holds very little water considering how T-Mobile is very proud of being one of the only carriers to offer truly unlimited data. All you have done is create a flame topic for which you should be thrown in that fire. Don't tell people to comment their thoughts and opinions if you can't handle it.
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Yes u are true.......
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Does anyone really need more than 12 GB a month?

OP using no evidence to back his claim. OP is an idiot lock thread
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How to get Unlimited Data on AT&T

I'm just transferring this thread from the Atrix forum for those that would be interested in getting onto (or back onto) AT&T's unlimited data plan rather than the tiered plans they offer.
It requires an IPhone 2G in order to do it and a sim card that has not been previously registered on an IPhone.
It does work, I did it on my own lines with ease.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1008698
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I'm just transferring this thread from the Atrix forum for those that would be interested in getting onto (or back onto) AT&T's unlimited data plan rather than the tiered plans they offer.
It requires an IPhone 2G in order to do it and a sim card that has not been previously registered on an IPhone.
It does work, I did it on my own lines with ease.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1008698
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It works...lol..I have actually rented my iphone 2g out to infuse owners to accomplish this.
00mred00 said:
It works...lol..I have actually rented my iphone 2g out to infuse owners to accomplish this.
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You could almost make a business out of it.
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You could almost make a business out of it.
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I have a friend that does that...you send him $$ and your login info..he sends you back a sim with unlimited data
AT&T's policies do allow anyone with an unlimited plan to keep their unlimited data when moving to a different smartphone, so if any rep says otherwise, then tell them to look it up in their reference material, called myCSP......just a little inside info
Can't find a iPhone 2g locally to save my life. Anyone know who offers this service
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Just throwing this out there, starting this month they will be throttling data speeds if you go over 2GB on the unlimited data plans. You can go over but it will be sloooow.
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AzraelsVoice said:
Just throwing this out there, starting this month they will be throttling data speeds if you go over 2GB on the unlimited data plans. You can go over but it will be sloooow.
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Yes you are correct
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I hate to sound like a broken record, but being a sales rep, tons of people come in obsessing over unlimited data. Especially the ones who barely use a gig a month.
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I hate to sound like a broken record, but being a sales rep, tons of people come in obsessing over unlimited data. Especially the ones who barely use a gig a month.
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I barely use a gig a month, but it's better to be safe than sorry...
I'll save $5 and keep it under 2gb.
I was lucky enough to have an unlimited data plan grandfathered in from last year when i had my previous Android cell (Motorola Backflip)
*Crosses fingers* please don't say you liked that phone lol
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Hey, I was just wondering, does it have to be an unactivated sim card that's never been used on a 2g.. or does it just have to be a sim card that hasn't been
used on a 2g phone..
and i have an old 2g phone, it lights up but you can't really go into anything on it.. basically a black screen just lit up.. it's recognized in itunes too..
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*Crosses fingers* please don't say you liked that phone lol
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it served it's purpose for a year and a half... made the mistake of getting the FIRST android based phone AT&T released... did i like it? 50/50
I had one for three days because I HAD to try Android. Had promise but fell short. I still have people bringing them into the store for service every now and then these days.
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well i guess i got lucky... never had to had my phone go in for service.... most issues i was able to resolve on my own... might end up selling it to a dev on another forum
since at&t counts data in bytes,
it would make sense that your speed would lower after 20001 bytes, right?
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since at&t counts data in bytes,
it would make sense that your speed would lower after 20001 bytes, right?
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I have no idea but are you still tethering? Like as in are you still tethering hours later? If so, you might want to watch how much you're tethering. If you push it too far, AT&T can find out and put you on a tethering plan.
Right now I'm on Sprint and would like to move over to AT&T but like most of you want unlimited data. If I switch I will get 3 lines (family plan) 2 iphone 4s's for my two sisters and 1 Samsung Skyrocket for me. Anyone know if its possible for us to get unlimited data?

Confirmed: New AT&T "All In One" $55 prepaid

Update: It's official. http://www.aiowireless.com/shop/plans.html
Not quite as good as initially promised. Unlimited voice and text on all plans. You get 250 MB for $40, 2 GB for $55, or 7GB for $70. Also, 250 MB of tablet data for $15. On all the phone plans, you get unlimited throttled data after going over your high-speed allotment.
The fine print says maximum data speed of 4 Mbps, which is lower than the 7Mbps I can often get on AT&T's network, but still not bad.
They do have a bring your own phone program. They ask for your IMEI. I put mine in and went ahead as if I were going to check out, and they seemed okay with me using a Nexus 4.
When you go to the website, it may ask for your zip code before you can view plans. This is presumably because it's being test-marketed in certain parts of the country. The earlier reports were that test markets would be Florida and Texas. I entered a random Florida zip code (34105) and it let me in to view plans. I haven't tried signing up, but I think there's a pretty good chance you could sign up and enter your real Zip code.
My take on this now is that $55 is a little too high for what they're offering. I'll stick with Net10, with 1.5GB of high-speed data guaranteed for $42.50 with a discounted SIM. But if you regularly use more data, this could be a worthwhile offering. The $70 for 7GB of high speed data is pretty much unheard of for prepaid, so if you use that much per month, I'd jump on that.
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A website called Fierce Wireless has reported that AT&T will start offering a new prepaid option starting as early as June. The plan will include unlimited voice and texts, plus 2GB of HSPA data, for $50 per month. Once you go over 2GB, you'd be throttled back to 2G. The Fierce Wireless report doesn't clarify if it's HSPA or HSPA+ (in other words, is it 3G or 3.5/4G?). They may offer a plan with 5GB of high-speed data for $70, though that's undecided.
You can read the entire article here: http://www.fiercewireless.com/story/att-planning-june-launch-all-one-prepaid-brand/2013-05-02
I've never heard of Fierce Wireless, so I don't know if they have a good reputation, but the report is very specific, talks about things happening in the very near future, and is about a subject most trolls would find too boring to make up a whole fake thing about. Also, The Verge, which I consider a reputable source, published a story about the Fierce Wireless piece without doubting its truth.
Even so, this sounds a little too good to be true. In comparison, here are the other deals you can get right now with AT&T prepaid or MVNO:
PureTalk USA: $44 unlimited voice and text, 1GB data, $10 per extra 100 MB overage
Straight Talk: $45 unlimited voice and text, ambiguous amount of high-speed data.
Net10: $50 unlimited voice and text, 1.5GB hard data cap
AT&T GoPhone: $50 250 minutes, unlimited text, 1 GB data
Red Pocket: $60 unlimited voice and text, 2GB hard data cap
Black Wireless: same as Red Pocket
H2O Wireless: same as Red Pocket
AT&T GoPhone: $65 unlimited voice and text, 1GB data
Every one of these plans has a severe disadvantage vs. the new rumored AT&T plan. It's no longer possible to buy Straight Talk SIM cards from their website, and many customers (including me) have been throttled at much lower data levels than ever recently. PureTalk looks like a good deal but has insanely expensive overage charges. The others are either the same price or more expensive than the rumored AT&T prepaid plan, and you have to pay for more data if you go over, rather than simply being throttled down to 2G. Note also that most MVNOs are known for having atrocious customer service.
The comparison is especially stark if you compare it to AT&T's postpaid plans:
450 minutes, unlimited texts, 3GB data: $90
unlimited minutes and texts, 3GB data: $120
That's a lot of money to pay for LTE data, more coverage in unpopulated areas, and a subsidized phone every two years.
If AT&T really does come out with the rumored data plan, and they do give you full speed HSPA+ data, it could put a lot of their MVNOs out of business. And I suspect it will start to cannibalize their lucrative postpaid business.
So my guess is, AT&T will hobble this plan somehow. Either your data will be throttled to 1Mb down, or you'll only get 500 MB or 1 GB of high speed, or the price will be higher. Nothing about the way their MVNOs have behaved recently tells me AT&T wants to make its prepaid offerings more attractive. But I hope I'm wrong with that prediction.
Sounds too good to be true. Guess time will tell. Thanks for the breakdown of mvno's, getting ready to look into one as soon as my contract ends in a couple months.
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If they did I would probably directly my parents there. Right now I am on straight talk with t mobile and while its better and much faster in Atlanta I don't know about their part of KC. But they already have AT&T so they know what they'd be getting.
Meh, ATT still sucks around here (socal) they have good coverage but they still have call quality issues so I'll stick with Tmo but bring on the competition.
If this is true I'll be all over it
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My ex-wife works at AT&T and says she's heard nothing about this to date. They usually get info around 30 days ahead of a released plan so if this is in the works, it's quite a ways under the radar. I would suspect it'd be more of a working memo that got released or something but, hey, who knows? It'd be great to see them all finally start competing on price!
Bump because new information in OP about confirmed plans.
This looks to me like an okay deal if you want presumably better service, 2GB of data guaranteed, and to be throttled rather than shut off if you go over.
The $70 plan for 7GB looks like a great deal if you use that much data.
$55 is a good price, direct from ATT, and they seem to be far more honest about what they are offering. I still don't like ATT but this is the right direction for them to be going.
Has anyone outside of the cities listed tried putting in a zip code from one of the listed cities and then just have it shipped to there address outside of that city?
I'm on straight talk and hardly use any data but yet I'm still constantly throttled to the point that it's not usable.
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DJPrelude said:
Has anyone outside of the cities listed tried putting in a zip code from one of the listed cities and then just have it shipped to there address outside of that city?
I'm on straight talk and hardly use any data but yet I'm still constantly throttled to the point that it's not usable.
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ATT or Tmo on straight talk? I never got throttled on either SIM using over 1gb/mo but I'm curious what you are using.
What I'm wondering is if they'll throttle people for steaming like straight talk or if they'll be more like T-Mobile in the way that you can do whatever you want with your data until its used up.
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What I'm wondering is if they'll throttle people for steaming like straight talk or if they'll be more like T-Mobile in the way that you can do whatever you want with your data until its used up.
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We won't know for sure until people start actually using the service and report back, but their terms of service do not say anything about streaming. They do say no tethering, and of course they give themselves an escape clause that "unlimited does not mean unreasonable," and you can't do anything that congests the network too much.
http://source.aiowireless.com/legal-info/terms-and-conditions-of-service.html
I'd be very surprised if they banned streaming. I've only ever seen that from Straight Talk and other services owned by the same company. AT&T has often been accused of prioritizing their own customers over MVNO people when the network gets congested. I wonder if AIO customers will get any priority at all.
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ATT or Tmo on straight talk? I never got throttled on either SIM using over 1gb/mo but I'm curious what you are using.
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ATT
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I have 500 minutes, unlimited text and unthrottled 4g LTE/HSPA+ data for 75/month from T-Mobile. Eff At&t prices. They do, however, have good coverage.
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ATT
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They are supposed to be more stringent
I called yesterday and they told me I can get service even though I'm not in one of the 3 cities as long as I do it online or drive to a city with a store.
Doing it online isn't a problem but she told me that right now you can only port your number if you go into a store and that porting should be available online within a week.
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DJPrelude said:
Has anyone outside of the cities listed tried putting in a zip code from one of the listed cities and then just have it shipped to there address outside of that city?
I'm on straight talk and hardly use any data but yet I'm still constantly throttled to the point that it's not usable.
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I did and it didn't work. I got some error telling me to enter a valid ZIP code for my city and state, weird.
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I did and it didn't work. I got some error telling me to enter a valid ZIP code for my city and state, weird.
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When it just asks for your zip code at the beginning put in 77002. Later it should allow you to put in your real zip code and address
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Is this just another mvno or is it directly from at&t. I couldnt find anything regarding roaming and whether or not these are treated like mvno or at&t prepaid. How do you guys expect this to function during peak hours? Since they cap the speed at 4mb/s does that mean they have the same priority as postpaid on at&t?
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When it just asks for your zip code at the beginning put in 77002. Later it should allow you to put in your real zip code and address
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That's exactly what I did. It won't let me order using my zip code. Either it's a site glitch or they really don't want people outside the test markets ordering.

thinking about switching from Sprint to Verizon

I've been with Sprint for 13 years and am thinking heavily about moving to Verizon and the S4 mainly for better coverage and data speed. Who has come from Verizon and what phone features didn't you have with Verizon? I have heard that Verizon doesn't have visual voice mail or google maps navigation. I don't want to go through the hassle of switching if Verizon is so stripped down you can't use the phones.
You'll lose unlimited data. You've been with Sprint for 13 years now, are they not providing good service in your area? Be aware that later this year Sprint will be adding voice carriers on 800Mhz which will greatly increase your voice coverage. Later on they will be adding LTE carrier(s) on 800Mhz as well as part of network vision 2.0 which will greatly increase LTE coverage as well.
But if big red can offer better service for your needs then that will clearly be the better, more expensive, option.
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With Verizon, you'll likely experience slower updates and a couple extra hoops to flash custom ROMs.
If Verizon didn't screw me over in the past, then I'd probably give them a chance again since in my area, they offer the best coverage for data.
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You'll lose unlimited data. You've been with Sprint for 13 years now, are they not providing good service in your area? Be aware that later this year Sprint will be adding voice carriers on 800Mhz which will greatly increase your voice coverage. Later on they will be adding LTE carrier(s) on 800Mhz as well as part of network vision 2.0 which will greatly increase LTE coverage as well.
But if big red can offer better service for your needs then that will clearly be the better, more expensive, option.
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Verizon is light years ahead of Sprint in every aspect of radio technology. Verizon's S4 is the first phone compatible with their AWS network. Sprint is a freaking joke compared to Verizon. Radio technicians completely rag on how bad Sprint is.
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I've been with Sprint for 13 years and am thinking heavily about moving to Verizon and the S4 mainly for better coverage and data speed. Who has come from Verizon and what phone features didn't you have with Verizon? I have heard that Verizon doesn't have visual voice mail or google maps navigation. I don't want to go through the hassle of switching if Verizon is so stripped down you can't use the phones.
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Google Maps Navigation is a app from Google, Verizon can't stop you from using it. If you want Visual Voice mail just download something like Google voice.
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Verizon is light years ahead of Sprint in every aspect of radio technology. Verizon's S4 is the first phone compatible with their AWS network. Sprint is a freaking joke compared to Verizon. Radio technicians completely rag on how bad Sprint is.
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Google Maps Navigation is a app from Google, Verizon can't stop you from using it. If you want Visual Voice mail just download something like Google voice.
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I've heard radio technicians rave about att, but I don't care. They still are the evil empire IMO.
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Verizon is light years ahead of Sprint in every aspect of radio technology. Verizon's S4 is the first phone compatible with their AWS network. Sprint is a freaking joke compared to Verizon. Radio technicians completely rag on how bad Sprint is.
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Care to elaborate on what makes Verizons' radio technology so much better than Sprints'? Why do you think AWS is going to be great? If it's any indication from T-Mobile, AWS has absolutely terrible building penetration in metro areas. I don't deny that Verizon has a decent network, I used to use them for my carrier. When they started the tiered data plans and only letting you grandfather unlimited plans by paying for the FULL price of a phone, they started feeling too anti-consumer to me so I left. Having to worry about how much data I use in 2013 is awfully draconian.
We get that Sprints' legacy network is old, slow, and overloaded. Network Vision is replacing EVERY site with new hardware and backhaul. Even 1x only sites will get the full Network Vision treatment(800Mhz CDMA/LTE and 1900Mhz CDMA/LTE). With that said, I've NEVER had one issue with voice coverage with Sprint, only slow data in metro areas. /anecdote
With 800Mhz 1xAdvance/LTE on the horizon, Sprint will be even better.
I've been with Sprint for a while... I 1/2 thought about changing to Verizon this year when my contract was up (I HATE AT&T so I won't switch to them) but honestly it wasn't worth it for me. I have unlimited data, my coverage has been very good. Yes I only have 3g, but for what I use my phone for most of the time, it's fine (I don't surf the web much on my phone or watch Youtube, so...). They are also in the process of putting 4g in my area, although it will probably be a while before it is complete. I also get a discount though work with Sprint so it would cost me a lot more to go to Verizon. Every time I have had to call Sprint Customer Service they have been very helpful (which is only a few times).
In the end, it just wasn't worth it for me to switch.
You'll lose unlimited there customer service sucks there phones are so bloated and have locked bootloaders your Better off going with tmobile it is about the same price as sprint and there hspa+ network is as fast or faster than Lte and it is all ready nation wide.
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Same thing happend to me so I left vzw.
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It all depends on your area to what carrier to go with. That's why they have a 14 day period to cancel service. Ask friends and family about different providers and check out the sensorly app in the Play store for real coverage.
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It all depends on your area to what carrier to go with. That's why they have a 14 day period to cancel service. Ask friends and family about different providers and check out the sensorly app in the Play store for real coverage.
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Unfortunately if you're using an EVO lte the coverage map means nothing because I rarely get 4g where the map says I should have 2 bars. Even with airplane mode toggle I still can't pick it up. I usually use my wife's turd viper to check and almost always she has it. When I do have lte my wife's viper still gets better speeds. That's probably my main reason for getting s4 over the one because it's supposed to have the same problems. That's probably the biggest plus for the plastic over aluminum.
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With Verizon, you'll likely experience slower updates and a couple extra hoops to flash custom ROMs.
If Verizon didn't screw me over in the past, then I'd probably give them a chance again since in my area, they offer the best coverage for data.
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OMG, this & you can say bye bye to your unlimited plan, locked bootloader, terrible customer service. Verizon is just a big headache. They gave me horrible nightmares.
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Verizon is light years ahead of Sprint in every aspect of radio technology. Verizon's S4 is the first phone compatible with their AWS network. Sprint is a freaking joke compared to Verizon. Radio technicians completely rag on how bad Sprint is.
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To be fair, going by history, they'll probably push the AWS software enable update to their S4 about 9 months after the AWS launch and have a 500Mb data cap.
Currently (and will PROBABLY stay a Sprint customer), however, as for 800MHz LTE, as far as I know, there's no current phones that will be able to take advantage of that once it becomes available (unless Sprint is planning something similar for the S4 and they just haven't advertised it yet). 800MHz for voice will work for virtually everyone... but no phone out there right now is going to see an improvement data-wise from that spectrum. Pretty sure they announced at CTIA that only the new phones coming later this year will be able to take advantage of it.
I personally moved away from Sprint even with having LTE coverage and discover the world of MVNO and haven't regretted it one bit.
I've always thought prepaid service was for those with bad credit but oh boy was I wrong, times have changed.
Now I look at those who are under contracts and over paying for service as suckers.
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Currently (and will PROBABLY stay a Sprint customer), however, as for 800MHz LTE, as far as I know, there's no current phones that will be able to take advantage of that once it becomes available (unless Sprint is planning something similar for the S4 and they just haven't advertised it yet). 800MHz for voice will work for virtually everyone... but no phone out there right now is going to see an improvement data-wise from that spectrum. Pretty sure they announced at CTIA that only the new phones coming later this year will be able to take advantage of it.
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Correct, there are currently no Sprint 800Mhz LTE phones available. The current S4 cannot do LTE on 800.
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I personally moved away from Sprint even with having LTE coverage and discover the world of MVNO and haven't regretted it one bit.
I've always thought prepaid service was for those with bad credit but oh boy was I wrong, times have changed.
Now I look at those who are under contracts and over paying for service as suckers.
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Do you get cross carrier roaming on Sprint MVNOs?
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Do you get cross carrier roaming on Sprint MVNOs?
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Cross carrier roaming is allowed between AT&T and T Mobile if you choose a GMS phone.
From what I heard Verizon and Sprint allows cross carrier roaming through Straight Talk. If you choose to use a CDMA phone.
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Correct, there are currently no Sprint 800Mhz LTE phones available. The current S4 cannot do LTE on 800.
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ting lets calls/text on roaming but not data
but at 36 bucks a month for any sprint device you already have for what compares to the 30 dollar tmo plan
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Cross carrier roaming is allowed between AT&T and T Mobile if you choose a GMS phone.
From what I heard Verizon and Sprint allows cross carrier roaming through Straight Talk. If you choose to use a CDMA phone.
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ting lets calls/text on roaming but not data
but at 36 bucks a month for any sprint device you already have for what compares to the 30 dollar tmo plan
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Good to know!
Funny because I just left Verizon for Sprint. The data speeds are unbelievable but there too expensive. I also have a 27% discount through my employer with Sprint, so that is a plus. I gotta admit I'm loving this unlimited data thing.
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I switched from AT&T to sprint. Unlimited data is cool, but unfortunately it is SO SLOW in the areas I travel to it is pointless. And that is even in some of sprints LTE areas.
And the voice coverage sucks in the areas I go to for business too.
Sprint has great plans, and if you have good coverage they are hard to beat. Problem is that their voice and data network coverage is crap compared to Verizon or AT&T...
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Sprint: The Comeback

So, as many of you know, Sprint took a huge fall from 2004-2006. They have since to recover fully to the mobile giant they once were, but as of recently, some monumental changes have been made. Many analysts even believe 2014 will be the year for Sprint. Lately, Network Vision has made a huge impact on many customers (including myself) with 4G LTE and upgraded 3G, the iDen (push-to-talk) network has been shut down for good, Sprint acquired ClearWire, and SoftBank invested in Sprint. They're even dropping the old "Sprint Nextel" name and switching to "Sprint Corp." as soon as the deal goes through.
So what do you guys think? With the owner of SoftBank, Masayoshi Son, willing to throw billions into Sprint for network upgrades, is Sprint making a comeback? Or should we just ignore all that and jump ship to AT&T or Verizon?
I'm fairly optimistic about Sprint myself, so I'd really like to hear some other opinions.
I think Sprint is about to make some power moves and some big ones.a friend of mine in Carolina has metro pcs phone service and when he pulls his battery out of his phone it says Sprint and has a Sprint logo and whenever Sprint makes a move so do they. They rolled out 4g lte at the same time, they have the same equipment, Sprint branding hidden throughout metro pcs devices something is brewing lol....
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I hope sprint doesnt forget about us who stuck with them. If sprint became number one you can bet they will be doing the same rates as verizon. 4g lte with unlimited is good but tmobile has the same and is catching up in the 4g lte department. Plus tmobile is gsm. Always a plus.
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Sprint in Indiana is 100x better since network vision upgrades started. Let's just hope softbank can fund sprint enough to cover all the roaming areas.
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Sprint in Indiana is 100x better since network vision upgrades started. Let's just hope softbank can fund sprint enough to cover all the roaming areas.
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With the Nextel Spectrum now available to Sprint's disposal, the sub-1 Ghz spectrum (the lower the frequency, the more coverage/wall penetration is has.) will help Sprint's national footprint by a longshot. This is only possible now because Sprint shut down the Nextel network on June 30th. Not only that, but for the crowded areas, Sprint has Clearwire with their enormous Spectrum holding, that they literally have enough spectrum to offer 100mbps speeds on their towers. This is completely up to Softbank and their plans, but from what I hear, Softbank is only going to make Sprint better for its consumers, and the duopoly in a few years will be hurting.
True. Killing nextel is huge. It will come together in the next 2 years. To bad our phones only support lte 1900. I'm happy to see them in the right direction. I'm sticking with them.
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I think Sprint is about to make some power moves and some big ones.a friend of mine in Carolina has metro pcs phone service and when he pulls his battery out of his phone it says Sprint and has a Sprint logo and whenever Sprint makes a move so do they. They rolled out 4g lte at the same time, they have the same equipment, Sprint branding hidden throughout metro pcs devices something is brewing lol....
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that your friend had a sprint device metroflashed to metropcs, thats all that means.
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that your friend had a sprint device metroflashed to metropcs, thats all that means.
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No he didn't flash anything he bought the phone NEW from metro pcs and when he went to put the battery in the phone it was Sprint branded
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No he didn't flash anything he bought the phone NEW from metro pcs and when he went to put the battery in the phone it was Sprint branded
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i dont know what kind of store your friend bought it at but i assure you metropcs has never sold a sprint like device. i have been working on their phone since the sgs1 days and they had a crappy knock off of the epic called the indulge 4g.
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No he didn't flash anything he bought the phone NEW from metro pcs and when he went to put the battery in the phone it was Sprint branded
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Because metro stores can by a lot of Sprint phones from a distributor , brand new in the box.
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i dont know what kind of store your friend bought it at but i assure you metropcs has never sold a sprint like device. i have been working on their phone since the sgs1 days and they had a crappy knock off of the epic called the indulge 4g.
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I don't know what kind of store it was but he called to ask me about a possible merger between the 2 companies when he saw it to see if I had heard anything because I worked for Sprint at the time I told I had not heard anything and he said his phone was branded Sprint with the Sprint logo in the battery compartment but the outside was metro pcs branding the phone he had at the time was their version of the original Motorola photon
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Because metro stores can by a lot of Sprint phones from a distributor , brand new in the box.
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no corporate store would do that, they would rather try to sell you the phones metropcs actually has, they stopped the metroflash service for that reason
there was no version of the photon for them, us cellular had the electrify, but metropcs has NEVER had a moto android device
edit: turns out they did have a few metro phones here was their last one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXqXijDNvlU
I've seen plenty do that. I have brothers who are distributors and sell a couple dozen phones at a time to cricket and metro.
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no corporate store would do that, they would rather try to sell you the phones metropcs actually has, they stopped the metroflash service for that reason
there was no version of the photon for them, us cellular had the electrify, but metropcs has NEVER had a moto device
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Yeah that is the phone so it was us cellular my bad I got the little guys mixed up they both might as well be straight talk as far as I am concerned lol I don't have either one of them here in Nashville so I don't know what metro flash is bro Lol we have Sprint, Verizon, at&t, t mobile, cricket and simple mobile oh and of course straight talk thanks to Wal-Mart
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Either way it was a small company in a weak Sprint coverage area with Sprint branding inside the phone battery compartment
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Yeah that is the phone so it was us cellular my bad I got the little guys mixed up they both might as well be straight talk as far as I am concerned lol I don't have either one of them here in Nashville so I don't know what metro flash is bro Lol we have Sprint, Verizon, at&t, t mobile, cricket and simple mobile oh and of course straight talk thanks to Wal-Mart
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not a problem. and since the reverse merger with tmobile is almost done, id suggest you keep your eye on metropcs. they had the first lte phone, first lte service in america, merged with tmobile to become the 4th largest carrier in america. now they have an agressive 2 year plan to shut off cdma and switch all of their prepaid customers to gsm within that time. as it turns out 60%+ of metro's customer upgrade their devices at least once a year. it will be interesting to see how much metro's cheap plans will end up cutting a hole into tmobile's famous 30 dollar plan.
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not a problem. and since the reverse merger with tmobile is almost done, id suggest you keep your eye on metropcs. they had the first lte phone, first lte service in america, merged with tmobile to become the 4th largest carrier in america. now they have an agressive 2 year plan to shut off cdma and switch all of their prepaid customers to gsm within that time. as it turns out 60%+ of metro's customer upgrade their devices at least once a year. it will be interesting to see how much metro's cheap plans will end up cutting a hole into tmobile's famous 30 dollar plan.
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We will see what happens I mean you merge with another company to be number 4 that doesn't sound like you are trying to make power moves to me that really won't affect us in our market because T-Mobile is not holding their own very well around here because their coverage sucks here for every 10 stores of the big 3 you see maybe 2 T-Mobile stores and all 4 have call centers here when I worked at Verizon when we had our quarterly meetings they wouldn't even mention T-Mobile if they did it was because they were the punch line of a joke lol
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I've been with Sprint for the first time since May of last year and I'm excited for them and what they have in store for us. I hope they bring 4G LTE to more areas quicker.
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We will see what happens I mean you merge with another company to be number 4 that doesn't sound like you are trying to make power moves to me that really won't affect us in our market because T-Mobile is not holding their own very well around here because their coverage sucks here for every 10 stores of the big 3 you see maybe 2 T-Mobile stores and all 4 have call centers here when I worked at Verizon when we had our quarterly meetings they wouldn't even mention T-Mobile if they did it was because they were the punch line of a joke lol
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Most people just consider T-Mobile just a regional carrier, specific to the west coast. So on the coverage end I don't think Sprint, being the nationwide carrier that they are, has anything to worry about. All I can see is that if Sprint doesn't pick up momentum on the west coast with LTE that T-Mobile could catch up. Right now the only real place that T-Mobile has LTE that Sprint doesn't yet is in Arizona, but Sprint is rolling it out now. Also, now with the SoftBank investment, Sprint has much more capital for a long term LTE and LTE-Advanced deployment. So with all these recent happenings, I see no reason to switch carriers :laugh:
Time will tell...After 14 years with Sprint I keep thinking about getting T-Mobile. I like not having to pay full price on phones though. Heck i make money. LoL. I have 5 lines so always have a upgrade to use.
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With SoftBank and Clear, Sprint has far too much potential for any of us to start being hasty. If your with the girl when she's fat...don't leave when she starts going to the gym.
They only problem they have is their roaming agreement. They have never solidified a good contract for it. The New plans even limit your roaming data and voice, it's they're only down fall imo. But when the build is near complete, that won't be an issue.
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Goodbye T-Mobile and Sprint. Hello Softbank USA!

I figured I'd post this here
http://pocketnow.com/2014/06/07/softbank-usa
As John Legere, the future CEO of Softbank USA has said, Uncarrier is here to stay!
I hope this means that I get Tri-Band on my Nexus 5!
-A T-Mobile Customer.
I have no problem with this even though my Sero plan will probably be going away as long as Dan Hesse gets canned and John Legere takes control with the TMO way of doing business.
this sounds awesome
Not a big fan of the name. SoftBank USA sounds more of a bank name than a carrier name.
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Not a big fan of the name. SoftBank USA sounds more of a bank name than a carrier name.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SoftBank
SoftBank is a Japanese telecommunications company who owns Sprint and soon T-Mobile.
I hope they keep unlimited data.
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Hope they merge to a all GSM network, instead of a hodgepodge of all the different tech used by Sprint and T-Mo.
Wouldn't the logical and smart name for the company be SprinT-Mobile?
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SoftBank
SoftBank is a Japanese telecommunications company who owns Sprint and soon T-Mobile.
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I'm aware of what soft bank is.. I was saying that I'm not the biggest fan of the name because it sounds like a bank more than a carrier name.
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Seriously, what does this mean for us N5 users? With the addition of Sprint Spark, the N5 can connect to literally EVERY band both companies have, 3G, HSPA+, T-Mo LTE, Sprint Band 25/26/41 LTE, etc...Will SoftBank issue new SIMs to utilize both networks? They might consolidate into GSM, but Sprint Spark is significantly more advanced then HSPA+/T-Mo LTE, and I think that they'd want to utilize that...Either way, should be interesting...
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Seriously, what does this mean for us N5 users? With the addition of Sprint Spark, the N5 can connect to literally EVERY band both companies have, 3G, HSPA+, T-Mo LTE, Sprint Band 25/26/41 LTE, etc...Will SoftBank issue new SIMs to utilize both networks? They might consolidate into GSM, but Sprint Spark is significantly more advanced then HSPA+/T-Mo LTE, and I think that they'd want to utilize that...Either way, should be interesting...
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T-Mobile also has 20x20 LTE which is pretty fast. They're most likely going to go to VoLTE route.
in the end i dont really see a down side to any of this. just really hope they dont do away with unlimited data.
May the Mobile Data Gods be with us!
If you don't see a downside to this, you have never been on Sprint (lucky you). The absolute worst network has been hemorrhaging customers for quite a while for a reason, me as one of them. I am glad to see the rumor mill is for T-Mobile CEO to take the lead job, but I see great potential for my wonderful T-Mobile to be harmed mightily. Lets hope for the best
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If you don't see a downside to this, you have never been on Sprint (lucky you). The absolute worst network has been hemorrhaging customers for quite a while for a reason, me as one of them. I am glad to see the rumor mill is for T-Mobile CEO to take the lead job, but I see great potential for my wonderful T-Mobile to be harmed mightily. Lets hope for the best
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Speak for yourself. T-Mobile has 2G coverage in my town. Sprint(which I'm on) has 3G, and in the city next to me, Sprint has blanketed LTE, while T-Mobile has spotty HSPA and barely any LTE. In the sticks, Sprint is almost always better than T-Mobile, hell AT&T has more deadspots around my area than Sprint...
I'll be ok with the merger, as long as its like T-mobile taking sprint over, and not the other way around. Get rid of all sprint higher ups, and keep t-mobiles, because obviously the current t-mobile is much more capable then sprint has ever been since the sprint/nextel merger.
And i better get to keep my $30 100 min, unlim text 5gig data plan.
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As long as they keep unlimited data and the UP phone upgrade program, I'm all for it.
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Hope they merge to a all GSM network, instead of a hodgepodge of all the different tech used by Sprint and T-Mo.
Wouldn't the logical and smart name for the company be SprinT-Mobile?
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The most likely course of action is that the networks will remain as is and the combined company will transition to all LTE and eventually shut off the CDMA/GSM/UMTS networks completely.
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Considering they will most likely have 800, PCS, AWS and the spark band; they could take one of those bands and use a third for voLTE.
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Speak for yourself. T-Mobile has 2G coverage in my town. Sprint(which I'm on) has 3G, and in the city next to me, Sprint has blanketed LTE, while T-Mobile has spotty HSPA and barely any LTE. In the sticks, Sprint is almost always better than T-Mobile, hell AT&T has more deadspots around my area than Sprint...
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Where I'm located (Houston Tx) T-Mobile sucks. I work w/ some guys who have great flagship devices and they have Tmo and are always getting dropped calls and data is spotty as all get out.
I'm in Biloxi Mississippi now and I have LTE about 70% of the time on Sprint. I have it 90% of the time in Houston and have for a while now. They have come a looooooooooong way. Guess it just depends on where you are located.
I hope the deal goes through. [emoji41]
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If this is seriously the final verdict of the merger...I have to say I'm terrified and excited all at the same time. Sprint is right next to Verizon with me..and I hate both of them, no opinion of AT&T though.
But I'm excited because as long as Legere is still CEO I don't think us original T-Mobile clients have to worry too much (been with T-Mobile since 1999)..and hopefully we end up on a grandfathered plan so we don't lose features or have an insane price hike... Because the most important thing to me on my plan is unlimited data.
Edit : this makes sense now and it goes along with Uncarrier 5.0... Legere wanted to increase revenue...so he got did away with 15% discounts with programs like Triple A (AAA) and made it so only government and military workers are the only ones capable of getting a discount)
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