LTE battery life ?? - One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Based on the reviews that I've seen in the forums and reviews from tech sites it seems that the One has good not exceptional battery life.
Im in Canada and have international version ordered from Handtec so once I pop in my SIM I'll be on HSPA+ ......(not sure if it supports DC-HSPA like the Nexus 4)
That got me thinking ... If international HSPA version has good battery life then LTE version should probably suck !!:what:
I've seen that there's the option to turn off LTE on phone but then I don't understand the point of holding out for this version ??
I know there haven't been any reviews of LTE model but some feedback would be great .....
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Check android hilfe forum. Ppl in Germany on LTE report great battery life. Also you can check other 2 threads here. Few ppl posted screen shots with great battery life on LTE. Like 6h screen on time... 2 days of normal usage.. International version of H1 has LTE and is not limited to USA.

Battery life fine here connecting to lte got 18hrs with 4hours screen on connecting to lte most of the day with about 25% remaining few calls made, lots of music, some you tube, several texts. Very impressed.
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Just like the iPhone, is should theoretically use LESS battery on LTE.

jaaystott said:
Just like the iPhone, is should theoretically use LESS battery on LTE.
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Less than what?

BenPope said:
Less than what?
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Less than using the phone on 2G/3G

jaaystott said:
Just like the iPhone, is should theoretically use LESS battery on LTE.
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iPhone 5 battery is actually a lot better using LTE than 3G. It should be opposite, but I guess Apple really did a good optimization.

bubigrega said:
Check android hilfe forum. Ppl in Germany on LTE report great battery life. Also you can check other 2 threads here. Few ppl posted screen shots with great battery life on LTE. Like 6h screen on time... 2 days of normal usage.. International version of H1 has LTE and is not limited to USA.
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Well this is wonderful news .... Thanks
Now I'll wait for the 64Gb developers edition
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MrPhilo said:
iPhone 5 battery is actually a lot better using LTE than 3G. It should be opposite, but I guess Apple really did a good optimization.
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Well with lower latency and higher speeds, you tax the modem for a shorter period of time, hence the better battery life on LTE. Might seem miniscule at first, but apply the tiny savings to everything you do that uses data and it makes a difference. Or so I understood it from an explanation given on Anandtech. The HTC One should see the same benefits on LTE.

DonutYankee said:
Well with lower latency and higher speeds, you tax the modem for a shorter period of time, hence the better battery life on LTE. Might seem miniscule at first, but apply the tiny savings to everything you do that uses data and it makes a difference. Or so I understood it from an explanation given on Anandtech. The HTC One should see the same benefits on LTE.
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It makes complete sense but when I speak to friends that have the North American LTE enabled s3 they tell me how awful battery life is compared to the i9300 (international HSPA version) ???
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adsam3927 said:
It makes complete sense but when I speak to friends that have the North American LTE enabled s3 they tell me how awful battery life is compared to the i9300 (international HSPA version) ???
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You aren't taking into account the completely different SoC. As for the iphome just read anandtech.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6330/the-iphone-5-review/13
And I don't think the international i9300 is that much better in battery life to the LTE US model. They're also using two completely different SoC.

LTE is better for intensive use, 3G is better for standby. In general though the time saved by using LTE means that you come out on top even if the standby is higher.

But dude the chipsets aren't the same.
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bubbleboi said:
But dude the chipsets aren't the same.
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I don't even know what this means. The One, iPhone 5, Note 2, GS3 Exynos LTE, all GS4 phones, AT&T One X+, Xiaomi MI-2, Optimus G, Optimus G Pro, and Nexus 4 use MDM9x15, which is the same exact modem. Any differences will be on the digital to analog/analog side of the RF chain.

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I don't even know what this means. The One, iPhone 5, Note 2, GS3 Exynos LTE, all GS4 phones, AT&T One X+, Xiaomi MI-2, Optimus G, Optimus G Pro, and Nexus 4 use MDM9x15, which is the same exact modem. Any differences will be on the digital to analog/analog side of the RF chain.
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Interesting to note that phonedog did a review on the Sprint LTE version and says battery life is less than international version ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnN-iDcBhW8&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Most are saying the LTE is equivalent if not slightly better than the non-LTE battery life.

Traditionally US LTE networks are horrible for battery life. I've had plenty of devices and for 95% of the time I keep them in 3G (HSPA+ on at&t) because they perform better for battery life.
The LTE networks here are not as advanced and optimized very well so devices tend to have worse battery life.
I have the dev edition on order which I hope will be network selectable and not saddled with at&t's signal meter. The one x and one x+ would only allow network selection if, on a rooted and unlocked bootloader, the standard 3G/H+ signal meter mod was done.
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Traditionally US LTE networks are horrible for battery life. I've had plenty of devices and for 95% of the time I keep them in 3G (HSPA+ on at&t) because they perform better for battery life.
The LTE networks here are not as advanced and optimized very well so devices tend to have worse battery life.
I have the dev edition on order which I hope will be network selectable and not saddled with at&t's signal meter. The one x and one x+ would only allow network selection if, on a rooted and unlocked bootloader, the standard 3G/H+ signal meter mod was done.
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The reason for the poor life is likely low signal quality in your area forcing your phone to constantly switch or look for better signal quality. Generally LTE (in a strong signal zone) will be excellent for your battery because it relies on faster transmission of data -- i.e. less duty cycles -- to complete the same task thus using less power. As I said earlier, it is much like 802.11ac standard now -- faster transmission, less time spent transmitting.
For CDMA/LTE devices, the power draw is due to having multiple radios on-board that need power. When VZW switches to an all-LTE phone by end of this year, it will be much better for their power draw.

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[Q] MicroCell and G-Note?s

I am thinking of switching from the Samsung Infuse 4g to the note. I have a couple of questions for current owner who don't mind indulging me.
1st... I am having a ton of trouble with my Infuse and the Microcell. Biggest issue is SMS and mms both fail to send about 65% of the time.
Does anyone use their Note with a Microcell and have you had any issues?
2nd... I understand there are several versions of the Note... an International Version and an ATT version.
What is the difference ?
Thanks in advance for any advice.
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So nobody is using their gnote with a Microcell? Really?
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it's impossible as the currently released version isn't an AT&T phone and only AT&T phones connect to the MicroCell (I work for AT&T) now unless things changed and now any GSM phone can connect, but I doubt it
JFizDaWiz said:
it's impossible as the currently released version isn't an AT&T phone and only AT&T phones connect to the MicroCell (I work for AT&T) now unless things changed and now any GSM phone can connect, but I doubt it
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Yet again...Logic prevails. Thanks for the eye opener.
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To answer your question, the AT&T version has LTE but a Snapdragon processor (faster data, less battery life, slower CPU/GPU for gaming/rendering), the International version does HSPA+ (still very fast data speeds, better battery life, 1.4 GHz Exynos, the fastest CPU/GPU out next to the Tegra 3 with noticeably better performance)
Product F(RED) said:
To answer your question, the AT&T version has LTE but a Snapdragon processor (faster data, less battery life, slower CPU/GPU for gaming/rendering), the International version does HSPA+ (still very fast data speeds, better battery life, 1.4 GHz Exynos, the fastest CPU/GPU out next to the Tegra 3 with noticeably better performance)
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Thanks for the reply....that actually helps too. I will likely get the ATT version.
Pushing this back up now that the ATT version is out. Is anyone using their Note with a Miceocell? If so .. are you having any troubles with sending/receiving SMS or mms?
My Infuse is a joke when it come to texts thru my MicroCell.
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Oh crap no LTE but still happy at Google move..

The Verge reports that Google has opted not to partner with any US carriers. Every Nexus 4 will be an unlocked device, and while that means no more pointless waiting for software updates (looking at you Verizon Galaxy Nexus), it also means no LTE radios.
The other small letdown is the phone's meager onboard storage options. The Nexus 4 starts at $299 with 8GB; $349 gets you 16GB
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HSPA+ is fast enough.
Agreed.. but still $300 for an unlocked smartphone with those specs!!!!
You'd be stupid to pass up such a sweet deal! I'll gladly get over lte for that price
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But this really concerns me the point of a quad-core when you don't have the storage to download more than 1-2 games that will utilize the specs? For example, most Gameloft and EA games that could use these specs are easily 1.8 gb or more. On an 8gb phone, unless you use cloud services, I'll cry within a few months for sure. I wish Google can ditch the idea of having only internal storage (Yeah !!! Like that's ever gonna happen but still) and come up with external storage like on the S3 and note 2 .. a 32gb MicroSD card for all my music, videos, camera pictures, files etc..
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if I go with this I would use the USB OTG and stickmount app I use on my nexus 7. I've done pretty good using dropbox and a 16gb flash drive with my 8gb N7. Wondering if the photo sphere will be able to be ported to my Sprint SG3. And yeah 300 for a phone and no commitment is awesome.
Bummer. No LTE means a lost sale from me. Bandwidth is everything. Maps, directions, movie times, sports scores, traffic updates, email attachments... LTE.
Very strange decision by Google to abandon LTE.
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HSPA+ is fast enough.
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Agreed. Even though is nice to have the feature, HSPA+ is good enough for my needs.
I'm grandfathered into Unlimited LTE with Verizon... WTH am I supposed to do?!? I'm assuming I either have to wait it out OR jump on the Note 2
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The Verge reports that Google has opted not to partner with any US carriers. p
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Not true. T-mobile will be offering this device on-contract starting Nov 14th.
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Not true. T-mobile will be offering this device on-contract starting Nov 14th.
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Is it true the Tmobile version supports up to 42mbps speeds,while the play store version only supports 21?
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Is it true the Tmobile version supports up to 42mbps speeds,while the play store version only supports 21?
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T-mobile hasn't announced if there will be any differences from the Play Store version so no one knows at this point. But I would be surprised to see a different radio just for HSPA+42.
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T-mobile hasn't announced if there will be any differences from the Play Store version so no one knows at this point. But I would be surprised to see a different radio just for HSPA+42.
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I suspect all that will be required is a different software radio, not hardware.
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Bummer. No LTE means a lost sale from me. Bandwidth is everything. Maps, directions, movie times, sports scores, traffic updates, email attachments... LTE.
Very strange decision by Google to abandon LTE.
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None of those things warrant LTE speeds. None. Maybe email attachments depending on their size.
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None of those things warrant LTE speeds. None. Maybe email attachments depending on their size.
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I suspect most people's experience with 3G is limited to crappy Sprint and VZW's 3G networks. In that case, it could be a deal breaker.....1-2mb/s down is pathetic. Now, T-Mobile users have no issue as their "4G" network is very fast. Not sure about ATT's, but I think it is similar to T-Mobile's now.
Sweet.. im almost gonna finish my job in india by the time I head back home i can depend on t mobile... and sell my unlocked s3 for public purpose and keep my note 2 for gaming, artist and business related purposes...... cuz im soooooooo gonna get the nexus 10... the screen ppi & battery.. this tablet screen hands down beats any ipads or any tablets on the market... Nexus 10 is a beast...
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The Verge article for those who missed it http://www.theverge.com/2012/10/29/3569688/why-nexus-4-does-not-have-4g-lte I hope this pushes carriers to be more open.
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I suspect most people's experience with 3G is limited to crappy Sprint and VZW's 3G networks. In that case, it could be a deal breaker.....1-2mb/s down is pathetic. Now, T-Mobile users have no issue as their "4G" network is very fast. Not sure about ATT's, but I think it is similar to T-Mobile's now.
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Yeah you're probably right. CDMA 3g networks suck. The 3g gsm networks in the states are much better. As long as you have signal service of course.
I use a 3g tmobile and those speeds are enough. Not the higher speed 4g branded speeds either. The 7.2mbit HSDPA radio.
I agree that speed is good and all that. But I am really starting to get annoyed by people dropping LTE as nothing more than a buzzword.
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Yeah you're probably right. CDMA 3g networks suck. The 3g gsm networks in the states are much better. As long as you have signal service of course.
I use a 3g tmobile and those speeds are enough. Not the higher speed 4g branded speeds either. The 7.2mbit HSDPA radio.
I agree that speed is good and all that. But I am really starting to get annoyed by people dropping LTE as nothing more than a buzzword.
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Same here...I get like 5 down and 1.5-2 up on my 7.2 mbit radio so anything will be an upgrade. I suspect the Nexus 4 will top out around 10-12 down and the same 1.5-2 up on T-Mobile.
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Yeah you're probably right. CDMA 3g networks suck. The 3g gsm networks in the states are much better. As long as you have signal service of course.
I use a 3g tmobile and those speeds are enough. Not the higher speed 4g branded speeds either. The 7.2mbit HSDPA radio.
I agree that speed is good and all that. But I am really starting to get annoyed by people dropping LTE as nothing more than a buzzword.
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Bingo. The 3G service is deprecated and the apps are requesting more and more data. So when you initially said "none" you were completely wrong. For example, the WSDOT app I used now is updated, and slower than ever. It gets a GPS lock then just grinds forever trying to sync up the map and traffic advisory overlays. That's all data. Since I am paying for smartphone monthly usage, I am wasting money now by continuing with 3G. It makes zero sense to perpetuate paying for 3G service. It's not a buzzword when it's a significant upgrade in throughput, and it can be any other acronym and I'd use that just as much.
I still think google is off their rocker to "wait it out" as they put it. And the Maxx HD television advertisement says it can do voice and data at the same time, on Verizon... if true, that would be pretty huge for us Verizon folks and our terrible CDMA 3G access, going to LTE and simultaneous voice/data.
There is a difference between the gsm networks that the phone will actually run on and the CDMA /lte a Verizon or Sprint version would.
When people say I can't go without lte over att / T-Mobile networks for those tasks its rubbish to me.
Sure sprints and Verizon 3g is awful and I would never go back to them ( or have been on them in the first place) but we aren't comparing lte speeds to those. Its against the unlocked gsm networks.
Verizon network is great coverage wise. So is its lte speeds and coverage. Those are valid reasons to be with them and not switch.
But that I can't leave my lte speeds for a unlocked gsm phone because of the speed for the most basic smart phone tasks .is nonsense to me. That is what I am seeing more and more off. The omg I can't live without my lte /buzzword crap.

Sprint HTC with HTC Spark possible?

As sprint rolls out their spark networks, tri-band LTE, I see the only supported devices are Galaxy S4 and HTC One Max right now but Sprint has said that "updates" to some devices could allow tri-band LTE on some phones. I'm assuming that the phone needs a tri-band antenna in order for this to work. Does anyone know if the HTC One has a tri-band antenna?
No the one doesn't have the hardware.
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I would have to assume no... Believe that it only has the 1900 and 800 MHz radios. The 2500 MHz was originally used in WiMax. The problem you really run into is depending on 2500 MHz band because the wave length is so long that it really is horrible for penetration of building walls. That is why WiMax wasn't so great, and it really only worked on the streets unless you were by a window.
And the HTC One wasn't on the Spark phone list either...
It won't work. But its a good thing triband phones will have issues connecting to existing LTE towers and won't be updated till early 2014. Also by the time sprint spark actually matters you will have an update to a better phone like the HTC two
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It won't work. But its a good thing triband phones will have issues connecting to existing LTE towers and won't be updated till early 2014. Also by the time sprint spark actually matters you will have an update to a better phone like the HTC two
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False. My Nexus 5 is Spark-compatible and it picks up LTE much better than my HTC One ever did... That's actually the main reason I decided to stick with the Nexus. It just flat out gets better reception than my One everywhere.
But yeah, Spark is barely even available yet and by the time there is actually significant coverage, the 'M8' will be out anyway... Now if HTC decides to fix their damn signal problems by then, I may actually decide to get one.
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The problem you really run into is depending on 2500 MHz band because the wave length is so long short that it really is horrible for penetration of building walls.
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Fixed
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As far as I'm concerned, "Sprint Spark" is just marketing jargon for something I'm actually interested in, 850 MHz Band 26 LTE coverage. Sure, band 41 deployments will be great for speed near a window, but I'm much more interested in steady, uniquitous coverage of speeds greater than 6Mbps.
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lol thanks! i saw that and thought.. hmmmmm... thats buggin me but i would never want to call someone out on a forum.. lol
deakelem said:
lol thanks! i saw that and thought.. hmmmmm... thats buggin me but i would never want to call someone out on a forum.. lol
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I'm sure that it was an honest mistake; I'm not here to call people out for the hell of it. I think we're all here to learn and communicate what we know to others, and the latter involves ensuring accurate information is being provided by others. I expect to be corrected when I'm wrong, I just ask that it be done respectfully.
He/she was certainly on the right track, I was just concerned about someone keeping it in mind and becoming confused when they see something on another site about how 800 MHz has better propagation because of its longer wavelength.
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False. My Nexus 5 is Spark-compatible and it picks up LTE much better than my HTC One ever did... That's actually the main reason I decided to stick with the Nexus. It just flat out gets better reception than my One everywhere.
But yeah, Spark is barely even available yet and by the time there is actually significant coverage, the 'M8' will be out anyway... Now if HTC decides to fix their damn signal problems by then, I may actually decide to get one.
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My 2nd (month old) ONE does well when SPRINT's LTE signal is decent.... maybe upgraded service, HTC correcting MF flaws that plagued early phones, maybe both idk... But my 1st ONE on release date sucked picking Sprint LTE.
Hopefully, Sprint will have broadly updated service so Spark will be available in more cities around the time of M8 release. :banghead: Regardless I'm getting it bc of international LTE bands and possibilities. I give kudos to HTC for building a phone that still relevant with all that's come out new and so Sprint for exploring innovative Signal/Tower changes to improve the connection experience.
just can't keep from flashbacks of the WIMAX debacle!
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M8 vs S4 radio

So, today I have been comparing my M8 against my work phone which is a S4 also on Sprint. Needless to say I'm a little upset. I do not have LTE at my house and haven't felt like leaving so all my tests have been done on 3G/WiFi.
I'll start off by saying I don't get the best 3G at my house but with multiple speed tests and downloading the same file on both devices at the same time the S4 continuously finishes much faster.
On WiFi in the same spot in my house on the S4 I will get 30mbps+/30mbps+ and on the M8 at best I get around 14mbps down.
I downloaded a 1GB file from
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/download.html
On both phones at the same time. On the S4 it finished in 7 minutes and on the M8 it was only at 5% complete. I didn't even let it finish.
I have also noticed at my house if I am on LTE/CDMA mode (even when using WiFi) I will get the X above my Signal bars showing that my signal dropped. I don't seem to have this problem if I switch it to CDMA only.
I am rooted running the newest firmware, S-OFF, and BadSeed 2.0
Is anyone else having this behavior with there phone compared to another older phone? Maybe I have a defect.
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Samsung has always had better radios than HTC. My M8 is MUCH better than my M7 was at holding 4G. Sprint's LTE signal sucks in most places, I'm hoping 800 LTE will fix that. One thing I always do with a new device is remove the proxy that is in place. That can help with speed. I don't think the S4 should be that much better. Download signal check make sure when you are running the test you are doing them at the same signal levels. To remove the proxy you will need your MSL, dial ##3282#, edit, advanced, RTSP/HTTP setting erase the IP's and port put 0 in then back out and reboot the phone and try again.
I belive the signal bars when in Cdma/lte mode shows the lte signal instead of the cdma signal which could explain the x on your signal bars. But yes mine sucks on that mode. I don't get any calls or texts coming thru unless I'm on cdma only.
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Samsung has always had better radios than HTC. My M8 is MUCH better than my M7 was at holding 4G. Sprint's LTE signal sucks in most places, I'm hoping 800 LTE will fix that. One thing I always do with a new device is remove the proxy that is in place. That can help with speed. I don't think the S4 should be that much better. Download signal check make sure when you are running the test you are doing them at the same signal levels. To remove the proxy you will need your MSL, dial ##3282#, edit, advanced, RTSP/HTTP setting erase the IP's and port put 0 in then back out and reboot the phone and try again.
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My proxies were already set to 0. I have signal check on both phones they are both reporting almost the exact same numbers. But, what I don't get is why the WiFi is significantly worse. All Speed tests on WiFi show at least 50% slower on the M8 and I am manually setting the server to make sure its testing on the same servers. All servers show the same trend with 3G and WiFi.
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It seems if I have both phones right next to my router theywill both pull about the same 45/35. If I am down stairs the M8 significantly drops off while the S4 is still pretty strong although they are within about showing around 4dBm of each other.
Surprisingly I just got 1.65mbps down on the M8 on 3G and .92mbps on the S4. Then they both went below .10 on the next test. I guess it is just to hard to tell right now but it does seem the S4 is doing better 90% of the time. I will have to do some more tests in other locations and on LTE. I can get LTE less than a half mile from my house but not at my house both phones do always show connected to LTE first thing in the morning but it drops immediately as did my S3.
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I would check for interference from neighboring networks. Are using 5G band for wifi? I have had no issues with wifi on this phone or my m7. However I do use the 5Ghz band with 802.11 ac with a nighthawk R7000. Samsung has always had better radios from my personal testing but again shouldn't be as much as your are having. Maybe try and get a hold of another M8 and see but I'm sure yours is fine. Any problems with calls or text is most likely related to circuit switch fall back which is a tower issue. To my surprise CSFB has worked perfect for me so far on my local towers. I was expecting all kinds of problems since my area has been so bad since last summer. So far it has worked rather well. Give that time to get fixed.
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Sim-X said:
I would check for interference from neighboring networks. Are using 5G band for wifi? I have had no issues with wifi on this phone or my m7. However I do use the 5Ghz band with 802.11 ac with a nighthawk R7000. Samsung has always had better radios from my personal testing but again shouldn't be as much as your are having. Maybe try and get a hold of another M8 and see but I'm sure yours is fine. Any problems with calls or text is most likely related to circuit switch fall back which is a tower issue. To my surprise CSFB has worked perfect for me so far on my local towers. I was expecting all kinds of problems since my area has been so bad since last summer. So far it has worked rather well. Give that time to get fixed.
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I don't think what band I'm using on WiFi should really play a factor in this. Either way you look at it the S4 is doing significantly better.
I have also tested it on LTE now, the S4 does 30%-60% better. For example on Speed test app both connected on the same server at the same time S4 will get 12mbps down and M8 only 6mbps and this is in an area with working Spark. According to Signal Check where I did this test the S4 ranges from around 4-10dBm better
I don't know anyone with a M8 so I might just goto a Sprint store and test mine against one on display.
I am almost half tempted to trade it in for a S5 even though I really like this phone.
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Well I was finally able to find a store with an M8 to exchange mine for today (last M8 at a Best Buy within 50 miles). I haven't been able to do too much tests but my WiFi is 100% better so I am happy now. I guess I did have a defective phone.
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mikeregister said:
So, today I have been comparing my M8 against my work phone which is a S4 also on Sprint. Needless to say I'm a little upset. I do not have LTE at my house and haven't felt like leaving so all my tests have been done on 3G/WiFi.
I'll start off by saying I don't get the best 3G at my house but with multiple speed tests and downloading the same file on both devices at the same time the S4 continuously finishes much faster.
On WiFi in the same spot in my house on the S4 I will get 30mbps+/30mbps+ and on the M8 at best I get around 14mbps down.
I downloaded a 1GB file from
http://www.thinkbroadband.com/download.html
On both phones at the same time. On the S4 it finished in 7 minutes and on the M8 it was only at 5% complete. I didn't even let it finish.
I have also noticed at my house if I am on LTE/CDMA mode (even when using WiFi) I will get the X above my Signal bars showing that my signal dropped. I don't seem to have this problem if I switch it to CDMA only.
I am rooted running the newest firmware, S-OFF, and BadSeed 2.0
Is anyone else having this behavior with there phone compared to another older phone? Maybe I have a defect.
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Where are you getting LTE in Riverside ? The only LTE I found was around In-N-Out near Madison, the In-N-out off of Van buren and Clay, and downtown. Riverside is dead compared to the OC and LA counties .
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Where are you getting LTE in Riverside ? The only LTE I found was around In-N-Out near Madison, the In-N-out off of Van buren and Clay, and downtown. Riverside is dead compared to the OC and LA counties .
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I actually live in Moreno Valley. There Is a decent amount of LTE here.. not sure what's going on in Riverside.
mikeregister said:
I actually live in Moreno Valley. There Is a decent amount of LTE here.. not sure what's going on in Riverside.
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Oh then nvm. The weather and LTE are not doing well in Riverside I guess.

[Q] Signal strength (radios)

Hi everyone, waiting for my Nexus to get shipped from the GPS but I've seen some anecdotal reports on here and the Android Central forums about the signal strength not being so great on this phone. Specifically, some people report that their LG Nexus 5 shows a better signal in dB (not just bars) than their Nexus 6.
I'm a little concerned about this. I relocated just over a year ago to an area where I don't have the best coverage with Verizon at my work. At that time, I had a Galaxy S3 which had terrible radios where I literally had no coverage in many places. I upgraded to an S4 and had no issues since then although my wife's Note 3 seems to do slightly better getting LTE when I drop to 3G. Was looking forward to getting this phone as it will be my first Motorola and I've always read that Moto has some of the best radios (also read LG and Apple do too). Not gonna turn this into a Note 4 vs Nexus 6 thread because that one already exists and is a hot mess but I've been reading that the signal strength on the Note 4 is really good.
I have a ship date of 11/26 so I guess I'll find out soon enough but just wondering what people's experience has been with the Nexus 6.
Thanks!
I'm curious about this as well, I have a Nexus 4 and find its radios to be more powerful than my siblings and gfs Nexus 5s.
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Mine has about the same reception if not a little better than my G3. Att is really bad where I live but I usually have LTE except for a few places but its much better than my wife's S5
i think people just get too caught up in graphical representations of signal (i.e. signal bars). Different phones and carriers show different things for the same level of actual signal. In my experience on T-Mobile on Long Island/ NYC - i get as good if not better signal than i did with my nexus 5. There are a few spots where i had no signal with my nexus 5 that i now get a stable weak signal with the nexus 6. To me, it really has been as good or better, but certainly not worse. With that said, graphically spots where the nexus 5 said i had full bars of service (5/5), the N6 reports as having (4/5), but the service is the same. Speed tests and dbm all match up, so i can just assume it's the way it's being displayed.
The sony Z3 I had had the same dbm that the Nexus 6 is showing in my office, but the visual bars on the Nexus 6 show as being lower. I haven't had any slower speeds anywhere with the Nexus 6 so far. One thing I have noticed is that I'm not getting 4G while on the phone the majority of the time. I haven't had that be an issue in the past. I'm on T-Mobile.
Now THIS is something that I have really been wanting to know. The fact that I too have heard about how good Moto's radios have been in the past really got my hopes up for this phone. I currently rock an AT&T Note 3. And IDK if I just got a lemon, or if Samsung really did throw the cheapest POS radio in their last year flagship phone. But of all the android phones I have owned (Sony, HTC, Moto, samsung) this one gets hands down the worst signal strength I have ever had. Further more, I make it a habbit to compare this thing to every other AT&T phone I can, from friends and family. And not one of them has ever had worse signal strength than I. The closest one had about -3dB less than mine. Most had -5 or even -10dB better. Even after flashing every single AT&T radio firmware, different cases, it still is just terrible. Right now sitting in my house it is at -100 and showing 3 bars. I work as a drive tester for cell towers, and my test phone is a sprint Nexus 5. So I cant compare it to my note, being on a different network.
But on to the topic of the N6, since it has radios for pretty much every network, would that mean that said radios are of a lesser quality? I had really hoped that this phone would blow my Note 3 out of the water on AT&T. Honestly, even if it isn't as good as other Moto phones, it still has to be better than my Note 3. Even dads S5 active and moms S4 get much better signal strength numbers than mine. Forgive me for asking this, but is this something that can be improved within the dev community with some flashing, or is it just a hardware limitation?
CCL X10 said:
Now THIS is something that I have really been wanting to know. The fact that I too have heard about how good Moto's radios have been in the past really got my hopes up for this phone. I currently rock an AT&T Note 3. And IDK if I just got a lemon, or if Samsung really did throw the cheapest POS radio in their last year flagship phone. But of all the android phones I have owned (Sony, HTC, Moto, samsung) this one gets hands down the worst signal strength I have ever had. Further more, I make it a habbit to compare this thing to every other AT&T phone I can, from friends and family. And not one of them has ever had worse signal strength than I. The closest one had about -3dB less than mine. Most had -5 or even -10dB better. Even after flashing every single AT&T radio firmware, different cases, it still is just terrible. Right now sitting in my house it is at -100 and showing 3 bars. I work as a drive tester for cell towers, and my test phone is a sprint Nexus 5. So I cant compare it to my note, being on a different network.
But on to the topic of the N6, since it has radios for pretty much every network, would that mean that said radios are of a lesser quality? I had really hoped that this phone would blow my Note 3 out of the water on AT&T. Honestly, even if it isn't as good as other Moto phones, it still has to be better than my Note 3. Even dads S5 active and moms S4 get much better signal strength numbers than mine. Forgive me for asking this, but is this something that can be improved within the dev community with some flashing, or is it just a hardware limitation?
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Some radios worked a little better on my note 3 but some were worse ...it was a crap shoot. ....but none were far and away better ....like you my note 3 got horrible signal on sprint ....g3 was worse for me so this has to be better lol
nexus6R3plicant said:
Some radios worked a little better on my note 3 but some were worse ...it was a crap shoot. ....but none were far and away better ....like you my note 3 got horrible signal on sprint ....g3 was worse for me so this has to be better lol
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Haha I am not alone! Well, here's to better signal in the N6!!!
Seems to me that the nexus 6 reports low signal as time without signal. Hasn't been an issue here as I'm always connected to lte even in places I'd drop to 3g
So anything new on Signal? I'm trying to buy a Nexus6 but haven't been able to on Verizon. Hope there is some good news there has been a lot of bad.
wooddale said:
So anything new on Signal? I'm trying to buy a Nexus6 but haven't been able to on Verizon. Hope there is some good news there has been a lot of bad.
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Best and most consistent connection/speeds of any device I've owned on Verizon.
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Make sure when u unlock your device that you change your cellular networks to LTE. When I unlock my device I wasn't getting no cell signal or phone call and I noticed my networks were set at ( Global ) so I switched it back to LTE.
mr pnut said:
Make sure when u unlock your device that you change your cellular networks to LTE. When I unlock my device I wasn't getting no cell signal or phone call and I noticed my networks were set at ( Global ) so I switched it back to LTE.
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What Carrier are you on?
wooddale said:
What Carrier are you on?
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Tmobile
mr pnut said:
Tmobile
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I'm on Verizon and really doesn't make much difference on my Droid Maxx. Maybe its something in 5.0. I gotta give it a shot can always send it back if I can ever get one. Pisses me off I got the money for the phone and I can't buy it. Maybe that's some kind of sign. lol
I get a little better signal than my wife's Note 4 in the same locations. She has an otterbox commuter case on though and I'm still running around naked.
I have similar experiences with my N6, or had. I've only had it for 2 days though, but I was having signal drop out and 3g/LTE switching a lot yesterday. I changed my APN protocol to IPV4/IPV6 instead of IPV6 and today its been fine. I don't know if that actually had anything to do with it or not, but thought I'd share. I think its just a coincidence and for some reason my signal just decided to work better. Worth a shot.
So I changed to LTE and now I don't have a global option.... I travel internationally for work very expensively (T-Mobile free worldwide data ftw) and had found previously on my Nexus 5 that I needed to be on global for it to work anywhere else...
Any ideas here?
When there's a CDMA SIM in the phone (Verizon/Sprint), it shows the global option where it can use both CDMA and GSM networks. When there's a GSM SIM in the phone (Tmo, AT&T, etc.), it seems to go into GSM-only mode (no need to display global, which seems to mean GSM+CDMA in the Nexus 6's case).
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So I changed to LTE and now I don't have a global option.... I travel internationally for work very expensively (T-Mobile free worldwide data ftw) and had found previously on my Nexus 5 that I needed to be on global for it to work anywhere else...
Any ideas here?
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pdagal said:
When there's a CDMA SIM in the phone (Verizon/Sprint), it shows the global option where it can use both CDMA and GSM networks. When there's a GSM SIM in the phone (Tmo, AT&T, etc.), it seems to go into GSM-only mode (no need to display global, which seems to mean GSM+CDMA in the Nexus 6's case).
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Interesting change from the Nexus 5. Previously, I had to be sure global was selected overseas as opposed to just LTE, so you can see why I was originally concerned. Good to know. Thanks for the info man!

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