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Three UK Bootloader

I'm thinking of pre ordering the Z and I'm just wondering about the bootloader.
I've read mentions of the Three version (which is the LTE version) coming with a locked bootloader. I'm just unsure of the scale of the problem; my previous phones All came locked but that didn't stop some xda genius unlocking it for me. Will non-Three devices just come pre-unlocked, with the Three version just requiring a bit of extra work? Is the Three version even in unlockable? (Bad question to ask before it's even out, sorry)
I'd greatly appreciate if anyone can clarify the above points

My Xperia arc bought 2 years ago has a locked bootloader, I can't answer whether SIM unlocking it will unlock the BL too.

Kallb123 said:
I'm thinking of pre ordering the Z and I'm just wondering about the bootloader.
I've read mentions of the Three version (which is the LTE version) coming with a locked bootloader. I'm just unsure of the scale of the problem; my previous phones All came locked but that didn't stop some xda genius unlocking it for me. Will non-Three devices just come pre-unlocked, with the Three version just requiring a bit of extra work? Is the Three version even in unlockable? (Bad question to ask before it's even out, sorry)
I'd greatly appreciate if anyone can clarify the above points
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I got it coming on Three UK too. If the bootloader is fully locked then it will be going back, simple as that.

Kallb123 said:
I'm thinking of pre ordering the Z and I'm just wondering about the bootloader.
I've read mentions of the Three version (which is the LTE version) coming with a locked bootloader. I'm just unsure of the scale of the problem; my previous phones All came locked but that didn't stop some xda genius unlocking it for me. Will non-Three devices just come pre-unlocked, with the Three version just requiring a bit of extra work? Is the Three version even in unlockable? (Bad question to ask before it's even out, sorry)
I'd greatly appreciate if anyone can clarify the above points
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Dam I'm with 3 and it's on pre-order I hope the boot isn't locked I will not be happy! Saying that my Note 2 wasn't 3 branded when I got it in November...
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I had a 3UK Desire HD and I've had no issues unlocking etc....Lets hope things aren't different with this phone....I guess things could have changed in 2 odd years

I've put the question forward to them on Twitter but I bet they'll say they don't know.. They should know stuff like this though, no excuses for not knowning.

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@ThreeUK @ThreeUKSupport Hi guys, could you tell me if the Xperia Z will have a fully locked bootloader with you guys?
@gez_morgan @ThreeUKSupport It will be locked yes <Jo
Then I told them I'll be cancelling my pre-order in that case and they replied with
@gez_morgan Just checking for you. Will keep you posted
@gez_morgan Hi there, yep this will be locked.

Just to clarify,
No Sony phone comes with unlocked boatloader.
It's UNLOCKABLE bootloader which is the key word. All sim free phones are unlockable. i.e. you can go to Sony developer site and have it unlocked for free after entering your imei number. When Sony do this they check that the imei is that of an unlockable device.
When sony chose to become developer friendly they allowed the unlocking of bootloader but because of agreements with networks they wouldn't unlock carrier locked devices. Hence when you go to service menu (phone dialer - *#*#7378423#*#*). You will see the status saying "unlockable bootloader= No."
Even if you unlock the sim lock on your phone it will NOT make your bootloader unlockable by the official Sony method.
So as an answer to OP 3UK phones will not have unlockable bootloader by official method unless for some reason they decide to provide sim free phone rather than their locked ones. WHICH I GUARANTEE THEY WONT.
It won't be the end of the world though, because afterall we are in a developer's site and some incredibly smart guys on this site will eventually be able to hack the bootloader for ALL DEVICES.
WE HOPE
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jayman1986 said:
Just to clarify,
No Sony phone comes with unlocked boatloader.
It's UNLOCKABLE bootloader which is the key word. All sim free phones are unlockable. i.e. you can go to Sony developer site and have it unlocked for free after entering your imei number. When Sony do this they check that the imei is that of an unlockable device.
When sony chose to become developer friendly they allowed the unlocking of bootloader but because of agreements with networks they wouldn't unlock carrier locked devices. Hence when you go to service menu (phone dialer - *#*#7378423#*#*). You will see the status saying "unlockable bootloader= No."
Even if you unlock the sim lock on your phone it will NOT make your bootloader unlockable by the official Sony method.
So as an answer to OP 3UK phones will not have unlockable bootloader by official method unless for some reason they decide to provide sim free phone rather than their locked ones. WHICH I GUARANTEE THEY WONT.
It won't be the end of the world though, because afterall we are in a developer's site and some incredibly smart guys on this site will eventually be able to hack the bootloader for ALL DEVICES.
WE HOPE
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What about say Carphone Warehouse, do their phones come S-OFF if you get a contract through them?

recklesslife85 said:
What about say Carphone Warehouse, do their phones come S-OFF if you get a contract through them?
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S-ON/OFF is HTC.
I am new and I found this out myself it isn't hard.
Sony Bootloaders decide if the phone is easily modified (ie. rooted, abled to flash roms/kernels easily). The Bootloaders are all locked from stock, and are "unlockable" depending on if your phone was from a carrier. Carriers determine if your bootloaders are locked, so the chances are if you purchased direct from a Carrier online shop then no, it will NOT be unlockable. Usually the case as I have read is that if the carrier usually SIMLOCKS the device, then it will be NOT unlockable. This is because the carrier already processed the phone and added the simlock etc.
Carphone on the other hand if you have bothered to Google. Usually sell unlocked/sim free stock. This is because the nature of how they work. They stock simfree stock because they will need to hold less stock since they don't need to hold X amounts for each network that way. Simfree stock means unlockable bootloader.

I currently with Three and on a monthly rolling contract which include the all you can eat data. Anyway I am currently using Sony Xperia V sim free phone and bootloader status is Bootloader Unlock allowed:Yes.
I currently looking to upgrade to Sony Xperia Z/ZL sim free. Yet I course I had to pay hundreds of pounds for the smartphone but I can change smartphone, unlock also I look to rooted locked which can be achieved as I do not want to break the BE or music download info in walkman etc. Also signing with contract phones with Three I think you three animation at boot time which I do not want, I can end the contract for another contract is another factor.
So you see some of the reason for choosing a monthly rolling contracts rather than 12/18 long contract you sign up for and no choice but to stick with it until the end of choice once signed on dotted line.
I think you find the Sony Xperia sim free smartphone bootloader are actually locked but you get a status bootloader unlock allowed:yes therefore you can and have to unlock it yourself.
It when you choose to buy these Sony Xperia phones on a 12/18 month contract that are locked and you get the bootloader status it cannot be unlocked as no.
My advice is choose monthly rolling contract with Three which I think is great.

Darkfunnyguy said:
I currently with Three and on a monthly rolling contract which include the all you can eat data. Anyway I am currently using Sony Xperia V sim free phone and bootloader status is Bootloader Unlock allowed:Yes.
I currently looking to upgrade to Sony Xperia Z/ZL sim free. Yet I course I had to pay hundreds of pounds for the smartphone but I can change smartphone, unlock also I look to rooted locked which can be achieved as I do not want to break the BE or music download info in walkman etc. Also signing with contract phones with Three I think you three animation at boot time which I do not want, I can end the contract for another contract is another factor.
So you see some of the reason for choosing a monthly rolling contracts rather than 12/18 long contract you sign up for and no choice but to stick with it until the end of choice once signed on dotted line.
I think you find the Sony Xperia sim free smartphone bootloader are actually locked but you get a status bootloader unlock allowed:yes therefore you can and have to unlock it yourself.
It when you choose to buy these Sony Xperia phones on a 12/18 month contract that are locked and you get the bootloader status it cannot be unlocked as no.
My advice is choose monthly rolling contract with Three which I think is great.
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Had a hard time reading your message but i skipped to the last 2 lines. No not all contracts are bootloader locked. Carphone have said and confirmed all phones sold by them (unless obviously stated) are unlocked sim free stock. This will mean you can buy any contract from them and the phone would be a sim free unlocked phone with the bootloader unlockable = yes.

m00moo said:
Had a hard time reading your message but i skipped to the last 2 lines. No not all contracts are bootloader locked. Carphone have said and confirmed all phones sold by them (unless obviously stated) are unlocked sim free stock. This will mean you can buy any contract from them and the phone would be a sim free unlocked phone with the bootloader unlockable = yes.
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I can confirm this as I work at CPW.

jayman1986 said:
Just to clarify,
No Sony phone comes with unlocked boatloader.
It's UNLOCKABLE bootloader which is the key word. All sim free phones are unlockable. i.e. you can go to Sony developer site and have it unlocked for free after entering your imei number. When Sony do this they check that the imei is that of an unlockable device.
When sony chose to become developer friendly they allowed the unlocking of bootloader but because of agreements with networks they wouldn't unlock carrier locked devices. Hence when you go to service menu (phone dialer - *#*#7378423#*#*). You will see the status saying "unlockable bootloader= No."
Even if you unlock the sim lock on your phone it will NOT make your bootloader unlockable by the official Sony method.
So as an answer to OP 3UK phones will not have unlockable bootloader by official method unless for some reason they decide to provide sim free phone rather than their locked ones. WHICH I GUARANTEE THEY WONT.
It won't be the end of the world though, because afterall we are in a developer's site and some incredibly smart guys on this site will eventually be able to hack the bootloader for ALL DEVICES.
WE HOPE
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I've never rooted a Sony phone before, only Samsung's and HTC's....will buying my phone from 3 direct cause any problems for me??

maverick1103 said:
I've never rooted a Sony phone before, only Samsung's and HTC's....will buying my phone from 3 direct cause any problems for me??
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Yep its completely locked so you wont be able to root it at all. Found out today when I spoke to them.

recklesslife85 said:
Yep its completely locked so you wont be able to root it at all. Found out today when I spoke to them.
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What surely someone I here will be able to get passed this, I thought the Xperia Z was supposed to be easy at rooting??

maverick1103 said:
What surely someone I here will be able to get passed this, I thought the Xperia Z was supposed to be easy at rooting??
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If there's a flaw in the locking code then yeah but you wont be able to unlock it via sony's developers site straight off and there's no saying anyone will ever find a way to do it. I hate carriers!!!

recklesslife85 said:
Yep its completely locked so you wont be able to root it at all. Found out today when I spoke to them.
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WRONG/not entirely correct.
bootloader unlocking and rooting are different. Usually in most cases with xperia phones in the past a decent dev, -usually by the names of doomlord, bin4ry, or other usual suspects , find an exploit to root a certain firmware version, without the need to unlock bootloader. So whether that firmware is locked to 3 or is sim free is irrelevant. You should still be able to root, provided someone has been able to find the exploit.
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Also as said already carphone warehouse sell sim free phones, however usually when they sell 3 branded contracts or pay as you go handset they in most cases locked to 3. It must be an agreement between 3 and carphone warehouse.
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jayman1986 said:
WRONG/not entirely correct.
bootloader unlocking and rooting are different. Usually in most cases with xperia phones in the past a decent dev, -usually by the names of doomlord, bin4ry, or other usual suspects , find an exploit to root a certain firmware version, without the need to unlock bootloader. So whether that firmware is locked to 3 or is sim free is irrelevant. You should still be able to root, provided someone has been able to find the exploit.
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Also as said already carphone warehouse sell sim free phones, however usually when they sell 3 branded contracts or pay as you go handset they in most cases locked to 3. It must be an agreement between 3 and carphone warehouse.
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Thanks for that clarification, it's put me at ease now... Well I'm hoping the XZ is unbranded like my Note 2 I got from them a few months ago.
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jayman1986 said:
WRONG/not entirely correct.
bootloader unlocking and rooting are different. Usually in most cases with xperia phones in the past a decent dev, -usually by the names of doomlord, bin4ry, or other usual suspects , find an exploit to root a certain firmware version, without the need to unlock bootloader. So whether that firmware is locked to 3 or is sim free is irrelevant. You should still be able to root, provided someone has been able to find the exploit.
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---------- Post added at 08:01 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:59 PM ----------
Also as said already carphone warehouse sell sim free phones, however usually when they sell 3 branded contracts or pay as you go handset they in most cases locked to 3. It must be an agreement between 3 and carphone warehouse.
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I'm talking more than just rooting. CM10 is a no no or any other rom without the bootloader unlocked.

Bootloader unlock allowed: No.

Hi everyone, first post, go easy on me
Anyway, I picked one of these up at the weekend and I'm very happy with it, but I'd like to try the new roms that are starting to appear. Unfortunately, I'm not able to unlock my bootloader (Bootloader unlock allowed: No). This is on Three UK.
Is there ever likely to be a workaround for this?
I'm gutted

I have the same thing on mine (T-mobile Croatia), I reckon it's a network carrier lock.
But if I have faith in something, then it's in XDA, the place where people turn "you can't do that" into "you can, it's just that no one found a way for it YET"
Let us be patient and see what will happen.

mine is the same
Bootloader unlock allowed: No.

Same here on O2 UK. I've just arranged sending the XZ back to O2, with this being one of the major factors that made me decide to wait for the S4. Shame.
JJ

stryker.jp said:
mine is the same
Bootloader unlock allowed: No.
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That means one thing no fun with xperia z on xda-developers at least for now :crying:
GOOD LUCK

Bootloader unlock allowed: No.
Orange Poland.
I can't root my device

That's why I got my phone from a third party (CPW/P4U/etc) they nearly always supply generic handsets that are unlocked and bloat free.

maddoguk said:
That's why I got my phone from a third party (CPW/P4U/etc) they nearly always supply generic handsets that are unlocked and bloat free.
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Yup. Always purchase unlocked devices. NEVER count on a manufacturer's locking mechanisms being broken, nor on the lock mechanism returning somehow. (Qualcomm's secure boot infrastructure is quite strong, so it's rare for it to be compromised unless the OEM handset manufacturer screws up. Since the T's locking was never defeated, I wouldn't hold much hope for the Z.)
Vote with your wallet - don't buy a device unless it's unlocked. If you buy a locked-down device and rely on "unsupported" locking mechanisms, you are implicitly saying that you are OK with locked-down devices.

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AW: Bootloader unlock allowed: No.
Branded and/or sim locked Sonys are usually not unlockable. This is documented well enough.
As Entropy said, either buy generic devices from the open market which come slim and neat to begin with or go with an operator which doesn't sim lock or brand devices sold by it.
I can recommend mine, sells devices subsidized if you wish yet still unlockable and the only branding to be found are a different SI than "generic", so I only suffer from delayed updates and nothing else

Entropy512 said:
Yup. Always purchase unlocked devices. NEVER count on a manufacturer's locking mechanisms being broken, nor on the lock mechanism returning somehow. (Qualcomm's secure boot infrastructure is quite strong, so it's rare for it to be compromised unless the OEM handset manufacturer screws up. Since the T's locking was never defeated, I wouldn't hold much hope for the Z.)
Vote with your wallet - don't buy a device unless it's unlocked. If you buy a locked-down device and rely on "unsupported" locking mechanisms, you are implicitly saying that you are OK with locked-down devices.
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I bought a outright supposedly unlocked Xperia TX for a Sony Central store in Sydney then only to find out it was actually vodafone stock with a locked bootloader.

Hi, can some one help me out here.
I have a XZ which has unlockable bootloader. I have unlocked it and rooted and installed recovery kernal and Xperia Z Revolution rom. All ok.
Now, was just seeing if I ever needed to send phone off for repairs.
So downloaded the lastest flashtool and was successful enough to restore back to the 10.1.A.1.350 Original Sony Unbranded UK Rom.
With flashtool you can now lock the bootloader, so I went ahead and did this but now when checking the bootloader status, it says "Rooting Status: Unknown" and when entering my unlock code in CMD "Failed <remote: Command did not succeed>
How do I fix this so I can unlock the bootloader again?

I don't think your locked. You probably are still unlocked as we cannot relock bootloader yet
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xl VipeR lx said:
I don't think your locked. You probably are still unlocked as we cannot relock bootloader yet
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Androxyde says we can?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=38912420&postcount=29
That's why I tried to lock bootloader after reading that.

morgan_82 said:
Androxyde says we can?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=38912420&postcount=29
That's why I tried to lock bootloader after reading that.
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Aaah. I misread your post. Have u tried unlocking through flashtool
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xl VipeR lx said:
Aaah. I misread your post. Have u tried unlocking through flashtool
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Yeah, get the same error as in cmd.

Contact the dev. They might know more
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Yes I will do, just need to get my post count over 10 before I can post in the development threads.
Don't want to bother people with PM's either.

Let me know how it goes. I was thinking of unlocking and relocking. Out of curiosity. Is your bravia engine working now that you relocked
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Hi all.
First of all let me explain myself, I am a noob but not a total idiot so I am where I am through rational consideration.
I have renewed my contract on three UK, which has just expired. The number one consideration for me is that I have full, unlimited access to the internet with tethering and the only option for this in the UK is on three, on the contract I was already on. Three have an excellent 3g network and are in the process of giving DC-HSPA access and will get LTE-4g before the end of the year. I am guaranteed to automatically get the higher speeds when they are available, still with unlimited tethering at no extra cost. No other tariff can give me all that in the UK. There are sim-only options but they are all short term and do not guarantee me the unlimited tethering I require into the future, and there is a good chance the cost of these tariffs will increase when 4g is rolled out. In short the only option was to renew my contract.
So, I have renewed my contract and got the XZ. The XZ was the only option really after seeing all the developers struggle with Samsung phones and with all the developer friendly support promised by Sony. Whatever I did with my contract I wanted the XZ and I love it.
I knew when I signed the contract that I was taking a gamble on the locked bootloader, but the best option for me was to renew my contract and if the bootloader is locked sell the phone and use the money to partially fund the buying of a bootloader unlockable XZ. I knew that I would probably have to do this and was ready for it when I got the contract. Anyway the bootloader is unlock:no, so I will be carrying out my plan and this XZ will get sold to fund the purchase of an XZ with unlockable bootloader. I am OK with all that and if I sell the XZ for even half it's current value I won't care and will have still made the most financially sensible choice. I will have to buy a phone off contract, but I will still have the tariff I want. If the phone I have had come with an unlockable bootloader I would have been a couple of hundred quid better off, but I had to have a phone on the contract anyway so whatever phone I got would have had to go to get an unlocked XZ. Even if there was a tariff which gave the same allowances I would have had to pay for the handset anyway, and it would have ended up costing more than it is anyway. There is no such tariff anyway and I have made the sensible choice and am happy.
Now on to my question. Obviously I am working up to selling this phone, and figure it will be easier to sell sim-unlocked. Fortunately I live in the UK and network providers are obliged to allow you to unlock your sim. On three I have to wait thirty days and then they will unlock the sim for me. I have decided that the thirty days older the phone is will be offset by it being unlocked and being easier to sell. I am not in a rush to flash roms yet so I get the phone for a while and sell it for the least effort, hopefully when CM is pretty well ready for the phone.
Anyway, all is well and good and I am content.
However there is one possibility I have only recently considered. I am aware that sim-unlocking is a completely different thing than having bootloader unlockable:yes. But I was curious to know if a byproduct of getting the Sim officially unlocked by Three would be a change to the bootloader unlocking status. I don't know enough about how all this works, and as I say, I understand there is a difference between getting the sim-unlocked and the bootloader thing. But might the bootloader lock be somehow dependant on the sim-unlock status. ????
I only ask this out of curiosity.
I will find out for myself soon enough as I will be getting the sim unlocked ready to sell anyway. It will save me a bit of money and a bit of hassle if the bootloader becomes unlockable and I won't have to part with a phone I have become attached to and know is a good one, it doesn't have any of the issues some people seem to be having with their XZ's.
Either way in a couple of weeks I will have an XZ with an unlockable bootloader as CM has become a must for me.

Is this the C6606?

http://pocketnow.com/2013/04/07/t-m...&utm_campaign=Feed:+pocketnow+(pocketnow.com)
What do you think? Is this the C6606 or completly another model or just fake

EAK47 said:
http://pocketnow.com/2013/04/07/t-m...&utm_campaign=Feed:+pocketnow+(pocketnow.com)
What do you think? Is this the C6606 or completly another model or just fake
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Looks exactly like our phones, so based on the picture we can't say anything.

Yes it is.
Sent from my Xperia Tablet Z

Spectre51 said:
Yes it is.
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does that mean the C6606 will only be sold through T-Mobile or will it be sold unlocked as well through USA's Sony store?
If its carrier locked or unlocked sold through carriers like T Mobile, the bootloader is usually locked. and I personally dont like it when carriers add their brands name on to the phone ><

LitoNi said:
does that mean the C6606 will only be sold through T-Mobile or will it be sold unlocked as well through USA's Sony store?
If its carrier locked or unlocked sold through carriers like T Mobile, the bootloader is usually locked. and I personally dont like it when carriers add their brands name on to the phone ><
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I still haven't been able to confirm that it well be available unlocked yet. Don't think it's been decided yet.
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Thanks for comfirmation Spectre
I have a weird question here... Does t-Mobile allows outright purchase?
I am from Canada and I'm planning some vacation in the States this summer, I wanna buy it there but I am not aware about how the carriers work there.
Some stupid carriers here do not allow outright purchase.
Also, I heard about a law that makes sim unlock illegal in the States, is this actually true? If T-Mobile allows outright purchase, do they unlock the phone, if so, does anyone know the price.
If I manage to get the device, I hope that T-Mobile logo is on the protector and not on the phone... I hate carrier branding on a phone
Also, do you have any idea about the Z Tablet release date?

EAK47 said:
Thanks for comfirmation Spectre
I have a weird question here... Does t-Mobile allows outright purchase?
I am from Canada and I'm planning some vacation in the States this summer, I wanna buy it there but I am not aware about how the carriers work there.
Some stupid carriers here do not allow outright purchase.
Also, I heard about a law that makes sim unlock illegal in the States, is this actually true? If T-Mobile allows outright purchase, do they unlock the phone, if so, does anyone know the price.
If I manage to get the device, I hope that T-Mobile logo is on the protector and not on the phone... I hate carrier branding on a phone
Also, do you have any idea about the Z Tablet release date?
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Yeah they do. They just restructured their plans and you actually get a lower monthly plan cost if you buy the phone outright. Not like AT&T where it doesn't matter.
As to your last question couple of months.
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Yeah they do. They just restructured their plans and you actually get a lower monthly plan cost if you buy the phone outright. Not like AT&T where it doesn't matter.
As to your last question couple of months.
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Awesome. Thanks a lot

Question about the bootloader

Hello, i'm considering in buy a brand new Z3C online (from my carrier discount program), how ever i can't use any device without CM13. I wonder if any Z3C can have the bootloader unlocked.. and if not, if someone have a way to unlock the bootloader without the Sony method.
I can't check if the device i want to buy can be or can't with the dialer code as it would be bough online.

Impossible to say, if it's a sim free network unlocked device they supply then there's a good chance it'll be unlockable. The only network I know of that supply sim free network unlocked device's for both payg and contract are three UK. Without checking the device before buying it's a lottery basically.

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Impossible to say, if it's a sim free network unlocked device they supply then there's a good chance it'll be unlockable. The only network I know of that supply sim free network unlocked device's for both payg and contract are three UK. Without checking the device before buying it's a lottery basically.
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Thanks. In the past, my carrier was well know to be the only one in the country with unlock devices that they sell and contract free. I'll call then and ask if it still is like that (i think so).
Also, a guy said that it is possible to install custom ROM with a locked bootloader... far as i know it isn't true. I'm right, or this guy is?

Question Can the Pixel 5a5G purchased from Tmobile be rooted?

I'm considering purchasing a couple of P5a5G from TM but I want to know if the bootlaoder is unlockable so that I can root.

Not seeing the phone on their site.

MrPolite said:
Not seeing the phone on their site.
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lol, that might make it a little difficult.
I was considering a subsidized phone...maybe I'll look at the Pixel 6. Will TM unlock the bootloader of their phones?

slingblade01 said:
lol, that might make it a little difficult.
I was considering a subsidized phone...maybe I'll look at the Pixel 6. Will TM unlock the bootloader of their phones?
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Get an unlocked variant, usually, carrier locked devices can't be unlocked...

If T-Mobile does offer the 5a, and if the TMO 5a can have the bootloader unlocked (likely but not guaranteed), it will first require a permanent SIM unlock and wait 40 days (apparently). Normally TMO won't permanently SIM unlock a phone before it is paid off (and a temporary SIM unlock will not allow a bootloader unlock). You could either wait the two years for the phone to be paid off, or you could prepay the balance on the phone. Prepaying the balance greatly reduces the financial advantage of buying through TMO. If you are a long-term customer of TMO you might be able to convince a service rep to do a full SIM unlock for you, but the cases I found of this were for multi-line customers who clearly were not going to change networks. Just buy an unlocked phone from Google or Best Buy.