This is going to sound like a really daft question, but how do I 'properly' copy photos off the 4x HD?
Since the latest update v20b the camera behaves a bit odd with its photo numbering - if you delete a photo, the next time you take a picture it will fill the next earliest photo number, so numbering is completely out of sequence.
If I connect the phone to my PC and copy photos off, all data regarding dates seems to be wiped.
So I can't go by the number, that's out of sequence, and I can't go by date, as the dates all get set to today's while I'm copying!
How do I copy photos off in the correct order??
Thanks
Ben-B said:
This is going to sound like a really daft question, but how do I 'properly' copy photos off the 4x HD?
Since the latest update v20b the camera behaves a bit odd with its photo numbering - if you delete a photo, the next time you take a picture it will fill the next earliest photo number, so numbering is completely out of sequence.
If I connect the phone to my PC and copy photos off, all data regarding dates seems to be wiped.
So I can't go by the number, that's out of sequence, and I can't go by date, as the dates all get set to today's while I'm copying!
How do I copy photos off in the correct order??
Thanks
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Don't have stock camera so no way to test but the date you see in windows is likely the date the file was created, a copy would always be the present date. I imagine the metadata would still be correct however. In windows, try this.
Right click -> sort by -> more
Then you should get a checklist with options, select "Date taken" and then open the sort by menu again, and selecting date taken.
For the past 15 years I used Nokia mobiles, I was very happy the way Nokia named newly shot photos (e.g. 21062010128, i.e. 21 June, 2010 0128, the current date and then an increment number). This gave me a lot of flexibility in sorting, organising and finding photos (I know that the exif data of a photo does contain the photo shot time).
But sony, gives the numbers like 'DSC_0295'. Just the useless word DSC and an increment number. This gives me a lot of problems while finding and storing the photos. E.g. when I move some photos from my phone to a photo storing folder on my hdd, then the phone again starts naming photos like dsc0001, 002 etc. And when 2nd time I try to move these photos to my storing place, then I've to rename all the new photos so as to avoid to overwrite the earlier ones. What say fella!
VERY POOR SONY. Pls give us the proper naming method having date time included in photos title. It won't hurt you and help us a lot.
i agree with you but you can use another camera app from play store
That's because they use the same naming scheme as their Digital cameras, I think its because of the camera software, as DSC is Digital Still Camera? That prefix is common among most Digital cameras, even DSLRs from Nikon use the same naming scheme and even HTC Phones.. You can use image importing software to fix that otherwise yeah, the manual method works. You could folder them by date.
I haven't tried them but you could check this app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=it.smartphoneapps.jcrename
or this one https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=cyb.satheesh.filerenamer .
They both claim that you can batch rename files. Hope it helps.
Use dropbox camera upload.. it changes filename to date from EXIF and you can keep using stock camera.
gerickjohn said:
That's because they use the same naming scheme as their Digital cameras, I think its because of the camera software, as DSC is Digital Still Camera? That prefix is common among most Digital cameras, even DSLRs from Nikon use the same naming scheme and even HTC Phones.. You can use image importing software to fix that otherwise yeah, the manual method works. You could folder them by date.
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'The Free Photos & File Renamer' seems to be an alternative.
But my post was not a question. It was a remark regarding the deficiency of this file naming system of different manufacturers EXCEPT NOKIA!
Using 3rd party apps is never as efficient as the built in function. I don't know what is problem in implementing this thing in all sony devices. It is very very beneficial to many users.
And I know the full form of DSC. But what I don't know why they would write to the beginning of every photo shot. And particularly when there are problems in this (as enumerated in my starting post).
So, pls be kind enough to understand the spirit of my post before replying. Thanks all!
It appears you have a problem with the naming scheme because it makes it difficult to sort by date.
So in the default album app, pictures are already sorted by date.
In windows explorer you can easily set it to thumbnail then arrange by date as well....
I too think the current naming system is crap. As I file photos in folders and sometimes make a camera dump many times a day, there will be overlaps.
I'd rather see they'd be named something like this:
XXX_yyyyMMdd_hhmmss_nn.jpg
"XXX_" would be a prefix you yourself could choose. I would have it read "XZ_" because i take pictures with many different cameras and I'd like to tell the cameras apart. If no prefix is entered in the camera settings, it will be left out. (Default may be "DSC" if Sony so wishes, but please give us the choice.)
"_nn" would be a serial number (_01, _02...) IF there are multiple pictures on that same second. Otherwise the serial would be left out.
Don MC said:
I too think the current naming system is crap. As I file photos in folders and sometimes make a camera dump many times a day, there will be overlaps.
I'd rather see they'd be named something like this:
XXX_yyyyMMdd_hhmmss_nn.jpg
"XXX_" would be a prefix you yourself could choose. I would have it read "XZ_" because i take pictures with many different cameras and I'd like to tell the cameras apart. If no prefix is entered in the camera settings, it will be left out. (Default may be "DSC" if Sony so wishes, but please give us the choice.)
"_nn" would be a serial number (_01, _02...) IF there are multiple pictures on that same second. Otherwise the serial would be left out.
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Agreed, it couldn't get any more stupid than this ****ed up naming scheme. Sony should really do something about it.
To be honest, I like the way it is. It is consistent, clean (not a buch of digits). Is specially helpful when filtering the good and bad photos on the computer, to them move or delete them... The Nokia method would make me really confused and bothered.
Felimenta97 said:
To be honest, I like the way it is. It is consistent, clean (not a buch of digits). Is specially helpful when filtering the good and bad photos on the computer, to them move or delete them... The Nokia method would make me really confused and bothered.
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It would be great if we could choose how it names the pictures, wouldn't it?
I posted about this some time ago. Mainly because when I transfer photos to other place and delete them from phone, the camera starts counting from 0001 again. It's really bothersome if you upload photos to cloud directly from the phone.
Sent from my eXposed C6603
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Agreed, it couldn't get any more stupid than this ****ed up naming scheme. Sony should really do something about it.
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i think the DSC_xxxxx is for Digital Camera Shutter counts. it usually used in professional photographer to judge the life of lens and shutter etc. and sometime they make many shot in studio and it may less than a second 3-4 shot. so the dsc_xxxx may help them to tell their stuff which is the final desicion to be use as their project. compare to date they more prefer shutter count.
I would be ok with this naming scheme, because I had some Sony Cameras (DSC-P73, DSC-W120 and now DSC-HX5), but the biggest problem is either not storing the next photo number like the cameras do, relying just in the last number found instead (if you leave a DSC_1594.JPG in /sdcard/DCIM/100ANDRO, the next photo will named as DSC_1595.JPG), and not allowing you to change this number (except by doing the way I explained, which is very inconvenient).
why not looking in the exif tag?
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Use dropbox camera upload.. it changes filename to date from EXIF and you can keep using stock camera.
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excellent suggestion!
I spent a few frustrated hours with my new Xperia ZR trying to figure out how to archive different project related pics in folders without messing everything and dropbox not only does that automatically so I have reasonably named photos now, but I don't even need to bother xfering the files over, using the cable to connect etc. As soon as I'm at home or at work on wifi it moves them over
many thanks!
cheers
V.
virtuvas said:
excellent suggestion!
I spent a few frustrated hours with my new Xperia ZR trying to figure out how to archive different project related pics in folders without messing everything and dropbox not only does that automatically so I have reasonably named photos now, but I don't even need to bother xfering the files over, using the cable to connect etc. As soon as I'm at home or at work on wifi it moves them over
many thanks!
cheers
V.
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And then you write a .bat script to automatically move the photos based on EXIF information to your \pictures\ folder on HDD .
Never bother with organizing pictures again.
you are right
zopfan said:
For the past 15 years I used Nokia mobiles, I was very happy the way Nokia named newly shot photos (e.g. 21062010128, i.e. 21 June, 2010 0128, the current date and then an increment number). This gave me a lot of flexibility in sorting, organising and finding photos (I know that the exif data of a photo does contain the photo shot time).
But sony, gives the numbers like 'DSC_0295'. Just the useless word DSC and an increment number. This gives me a lot of problems while finding and storing the photos. E.g. when I move some photos from my phone to a photo storing folder on my hdd, then the phone again starts naming photos like dsc0001, 002 etc. And when 2nd time I try to move these photos to my storing place, then I've to rename all the new photos so as to avoid to overwrite the earlier ones. What say fella!
VERY POOR SONY. Pls give us the proper naming method having date time included in photos title. It won't hurt you and help us a lot.
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ZOPFAN
You are right
I m having the same problem when organizing pictures... At least it should be squential from the beginnig of the phone life, like canon does. I think the nokia method is the best because it organises time oriented.
Like this ,its a mess... i dont want to lose time renaming fotos, and i need to put them in existent folders by subject...
PLZ if you find a solution, upgrade software or any app that can rename them by daTe will be great..
Thanx~
SONY XPERIA e4 DUAL, 2015
Nice necro-thread bumping...
And if we talk about topic its most... useless whining I heard. Every app and every system have sorting methods by date of creation/modify/name so dsc prefix is not a problem at all.
Also if you work with images for most of time, maybe you should use apps that deal with such prefix, even free IrfanView dont have problem with that.
Not to mention sorting by exif data, if you take image management serious you would know that there is such thing and this topic would be unnecessary, because there is looots of apps for that.
Hi everyone! I am quite surprised that I haven't seen this posted much anywhere (other than here: http://goo.gl/YMf4bb), and wondering if it's just something I have missed.
I notice that if all photos taken by the Z3 are removed from the device, the camera will reset the filename back to DSC_00001.jpg. This is obviously really annoying as that means I have to rename my old photos or new photos each time I backup my photos to my mac.
Someone has suggested to keep the last photo in there (as per link I posted above - http://goo.gl/YMf4bb) and there is an app that will help to auto-rename the media files - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ro.ciubex.dscautorename. So in case someone is experiencing this as well, hopefully that helps.
I just really don't get why Sony, with all its experience with cameras and such, will not do something like track photo filenames....
I do really love my Z3C generally - but rather disappointed by something like this (and personally I don't like the camera much overall)...
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spacebar76 said:
Hi everyone! I am quite surprised that I haven't seen this posted much anywhere (other than here: http://goo.gl/YMf4bb), and wondering if it's just something I have missed.
I notice that if all photos taken by the Z3 are removed from the device, the camera will reset the filename back to DSC_00001.jpg. This is obviously really annoying as that means I have to rename my old photos or new photos each time I backup my photos to my mac.
Someone has suggested to keep the last photo in there (as per link I posted above - http://goo.gl/YMf4bb) and there is an app that will help to auto-rename the media files - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ro.ciubex.dscautorename. So in case someone is experiencing this as well, hopefully that helps.
I just really don't get why Sony, with all its experience with cameras and such, will not do something like track photo filenames....
I do really love my Z3C generally - but rather disappointed by something like this (and personally I don't like the camera much overall)...
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it s not just Xperia phones
all phones whatever android or iPhone take photo by using this kindda code name
it s not the problem when u can simply rename every files on Android by using a file manager app
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This has always bothered me as well
Just put a jpg file into the DCIM/100ANDRO folder (where your photos are stored) and name it with the number before the one you wish to start on. For example, if you want your photos to begin at DSC_0501.JPG, name the file DSC_0500.JPG and the camera will begin counting from there. I tested this on a Sony Xperia Z5 Compact.
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I recently came home from a long trip, carrying home 3000+ pictures from several cameras. Unfortunately I have experienced that my phone Z3 Compact misreads the time the picture was taken (EXIF - "Date taken").
The error is on all pictures captured with my mobile and my pocket camera. There are no problems reading the times stamp with the pictures taken with another camera. Windows 7 reads all pictures, from all cameras, correct. (See attached pictures.) The error is present on both my Z3 Compact and my Z3 Tablet Compact, and on both Kitkat - Android 4.4.4 and Lollipop - Android 5.0.2.
How to I remove/bypass the error, such I can get my phone and tablet to read the time stamp and sort the pictures in correct order??
Any comments, solutions etc. are welcomed!
I'm having the same issue! Exif date of photos from other smartphones are not read correctly. Instead the timestamp of the file is taken as date.
Update:
Tested on Z3, Z3C and Z3TC. Also with 4.4.4 and new 5.0.2!
No one knows a solution or have an idea to a workaround?
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Hi,
in your last screenshot I don't see Date. You might have scroll it down. Could you please take sreenshot with Date. Please also share Album version which you can find in Settings->Apps->All->Album.
If it's not a problem please attach one of your pics. In your screenshots I also see that year is "0002" but month is November. Is month ok or are both incorrect?
Btw, you can also try this:
1. Go to Settings -> Apps -> All -> Media Storage
2. Click "Clear Data" button
3. Restart the phone
PuentoMarro said:
Hi,
in your last screenshot I don't see Date. You might have scroll it down. Could you please take sreenshot with Date. Please also share Album version which you can find in Settings->Apps->All->Album.
If it's not a problem please attach one of your pics. In your screenshots I also see that year is "0002" but month is November. Is month ok or are both incorrect?
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Thanks for helping. The date is not present for the pictures that are misread with respect to time, that's why it's not on the screenshot.
I'm using Album 7.1.A.0.22. The correct month is February. I think November year 2 is just the earliest time the app can use, and that's why this time is picked when it cannot read the time/date.
I had a long conversation with Sony support. We found out that the problem is a bug in the Album app because QuickPic can read the time just fine. Sony have now recorded the bug, and I hope it with be fixed in a resent update - but my hopes are not high.
I tried to clear the data in medie storage, but it did not fix the problem. I can upload a picture, I just need to resize it first. How do I easily resize it on Android while keeping the Date taken?
QuickPic can read exif directly from file while Album app reads it from database, but if you say that after clearing Media Storage it's still reproducible then it's most probably Album.
Anyway resizing image shouldn't change Date Taken exif, so you can resize on Windows (I think there is no resize option in Album). Or maybe don't resize and upload it to sendspace or somewhere.
Please also write how you have moved those pictures? Was it using Sony PC Companion or in some other way? And what happens if you take picture with Camera app? Will it also appear under "November 0002" ?
PuentoMarro said:
QuickPic can read exif directly from file while Album app reads it from database, but if you say that after clearing Media Storage it's still reproducible then it's most probably Album.
Anyway resizing image shouldn't change Date Taken exif, so you can resize on Windows (I think there is no resize option in Album). Or maybe don't resize and upload it to sendspace or somewhere.
Please also write how you have moved those pictures? Was it using Sony PC Companion or in some other way? And what happens if you take picture with Camera app? Will it also appear under "November 0002" ?
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I have shared a picture here: http://1drv.ms/1bTtBp7
What database is Album using, and why don't it read exif directly??
I have not used Sony PC Companion.
I have uploaded half of the pictures that have problems to Onedrive via Windows as backup. I have then downloaded the pictures to Windows and copied them to a SD-card. I have also tried to download directly from the Onedrive app. -No change.
The second half of the pictures are from an old Z3 Compact (died in water). These pictures where stored directly on the SD-card. They have been moved to a Windows computer and backed up on SD-cards.
New pictures (from the new phone) seems to have no problem. However the old photos did not have problems on the old Z3c.
Hi again,
unfortunately the problem is with your camera, not with Sony phone. You can use online exif checker like:
www[dot]regex[dot]info/exif[dot]cgi
(sorry for stupid link but xda doesn't allow me to paste links ...)
and find "GPS Date Stamp". In case of your image it's set to "0000:00:00" while according to documentation (www[dot]exiv2[dot]org/Exif2-2[dot]PDF) it should be set to "none" if it's not used. Since your camera sets it to "0000:00:00" (which btw is valid time stamp) your Z3 tries to use it and that's why you get weird date. It works the same on Nexus 5 (Android 5.1) in Google Photos app.
The reason why you see correct time on Windows is that Windows probably prefers different time info (modification date or something).
Hi all,
Firstly apologies if this has already been answered, I've had a search but can't find anything.
I've transferred my files from my phone to my computer and what's odd is that photos appear to be taking on a random file naming convention. Sometimes the photo starts IMG, other times is starts DSC, and I can't figure it out.
I only use the stock rom (albeit the trimmed version), stock photo app, I've changes between launchers etc....
The only possibility could be that I may have switched from trimming my own app to using the pre-trimmed image and maybe the region of the rom affects the naming?
If anyone has answers it'd be great, as I'd love to have my photos imported in the order I took them, many thanks in advance for any replies.
Martin