[Q] SONY: Wrong method of naming Photos in xperia. - Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

For the past 15 years I used Nokia mobiles, I was very happy the way Nokia named newly shot photos (e.g. 21062010128, i.e. 21 June, 2010 0128, the current date and then an increment number). This gave me a lot of flexibility in sorting, organising and finding photos (I know that the exif data of a photo does contain the photo shot time).
But sony, gives the numbers like 'DSC_0295'. Just the useless word DSC and an increment number. This gives me a lot of problems while finding and storing the photos. E.g. when I move some photos from my phone to a photo storing folder on my hdd, then the phone again starts naming photos like dsc0001, 002 etc. And when 2nd time I try to move these photos to my storing place, then I've to rename all the new photos so as to avoid to overwrite the earlier ones. What say fella!
VERY POOR SONY. Pls give us the proper naming method having date time included in photos title. It won't hurt you and help us a lot.

i agree with you but you can use another camera app from play store

That's because they use the same naming scheme as their Digital cameras, I think its because of the camera software, as DSC is Digital Still Camera? That prefix is common among most Digital cameras, even DSLRs from Nikon use the same naming scheme and even HTC Phones.. You can use image importing software to fix that otherwise yeah, the manual method works. You could folder them by date.

I haven't tried them but you could check this app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=it.smartphoneapps.jcrename
or this one https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=cyb.satheesh.filerenamer .
They both claim that you can batch rename files. Hope it helps.

Use dropbox camera upload.. it changes filename to date from EXIF and you can keep using stock camera.

gerickjohn said:
That's because they use the same naming scheme as their Digital cameras, I think its because of the camera software, as DSC is Digital Still Camera? That prefix is common among most Digital cameras, even DSLRs from Nikon use the same naming scheme and even HTC Phones.. You can use image importing software to fix that otherwise yeah, the manual method works. You could folder them by date.
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'The Free Photos & File Renamer' seems to be an alternative.
But my post was not a question. It was a remark regarding the deficiency of this file naming system of different manufacturers EXCEPT NOKIA!
Using 3rd party apps is never as efficient as the built in function. I don't know what is problem in implementing this thing in all sony devices. It is very very beneficial to many users.
And I know the full form of DSC. But what I don't know why they would write to the beginning of every photo shot. And particularly when there are problems in this (as enumerated in my starting post).
So, pls be kind enough to understand the spirit of my post before replying. Thanks all!

It appears you have a problem with the naming scheme because it makes it difficult to sort by date.
So in the default album app, pictures are already sorted by date.
In windows explorer you can easily set it to thumbnail then arrange by date as well....

I too think the current naming system is crap. As I file photos in folders and sometimes make a camera dump many times a day, there will be overlaps.
I'd rather see they'd be named something like this:
XXX_yyyyMMdd_hhmmss_nn.jpg
"XXX_" would be a prefix you yourself could choose. I would have it read "XZ_" because i take pictures with many different cameras and I'd like to tell the cameras apart. If no prefix is entered in the camera settings, it will be left out. (Default may be "DSC" if Sony so wishes, but please give us the choice.)
"_nn" would be a serial number (_01, _02...) IF there are multiple pictures on that same second. Otherwise the serial would be left out.

Don MC said:
I too think the current naming system is crap. As I file photos in folders and sometimes make a camera dump many times a day, there will be overlaps.
I'd rather see they'd be named something like this:
XXX_yyyyMMdd_hhmmss_nn.jpg
"XXX_" would be a prefix you yourself could choose. I would have it read "XZ_" because i take pictures with many different cameras and I'd like to tell the cameras apart. If no prefix is entered in the camera settings, it will be left out. (Default may be "DSC" if Sony so wishes, but please give us the choice.)
"_nn" would be a serial number (_01, _02...) IF there are multiple pictures on that same second. Otherwise the serial would be left out.
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Agreed, it couldn't get any more stupid than this ****ed up naming scheme. Sony should really do something about it.

To be honest, I like the way it is. It is consistent, clean (not a buch of digits). Is specially helpful when filtering the good and bad photos on the computer, to them move or delete them... The Nokia method would make me really confused and bothered.

Felimenta97 said:
To be honest, I like the way it is. It is consistent, clean (not a buch of digits). Is specially helpful when filtering the good and bad photos on the computer, to them move or delete them... The Nokia method would make me really confused and bothered.
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It would be great if we could choose how it names the pictures, wouldn't it?

I posted about this some time ago. Mainly because when I transfer photos to other place and delete them from phone, the camera starts counting from 0001 again. It's really bothersome if you upload photos to cloud directly from the phone.
Sent from my eXposed C6603

bloodsuckingcomputer said:
Agreed, it couldn't get any more stupid than this ****ed up naming scheme. Sony should really do something about it.
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i think the DSC_xxxxx is for Digital Camera Shutter counts. it usually used in professional photographer to judge the life of lens and shutter etc. and sometime they make many shot in studio and it may less than a second 3-4 shot. so the dsc_xxxx may help them to tell their stuff which is the final desicion to be use as their project. compare to date they more prefer shutter count.

I would be ok with this naming scheme, because I had some Sony Cameras (DSC-P73, DSC-W120 and now DSC-HX5), but the biggest problem is either not storing the next photo number like the cameras do, relying just in the last number found instead (if you leave a DSC_1594.JPG in /sdcard/DCIM/100ANDRO, the next photo will named as DSC_1595.JPG), and not allowing you to change this number (except by doing the way I explained, which is very inconvenient).

why not looking in the exif tag?

DoubleYouPee said:
Use dropbox camera upload.. it changes filename to date from EXIF and you can keep using stock camera.
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excellent suggestion!
I spent a few frustrated hours with my new Xperia ZR trying to figure out how to archive different project related pics in folders without messing everything and dropbox not only does that automatically so I have reasonably named photos now, but I don't even need to bother xfering the files over, using the cable to connect etc. As soon as I'm at home or at work on wifi it moves them over
many thanks!
cheers
V.

virtuvas said:
excellent suggestion!
I spent a few frustrated hours with my new Xperia ZR trying to figure out how to archive different project related pics in folders without messing everything and dropbox not only does that automatically so I have reasonably named photos now, but I don't even need to bother xfering the files over, using the cable to connect etc. As soon as I'm at home or at work on wifi it moves them over
many thanks!
cheers
V.
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Yes
And then you write a .bat script to automatically move the photos based on EXIF information to your \pictures\ folder on HDD .
Never bother with organizing pictures again.

you are right
zopfan said:
For the past 15 years I used Nokia mobiles, I was very happy the way Nokia named newly shot photos (e.g. 21062010128, i.e. 21 June, 2010 0128, the current date and then an increment number). This gave me a lot of flexibility in sorting, organising and finding photos (I know that the exif data of a photo does contain the photo shot time).
But sony, gives the numbers like 'DSC_0295'. Just the useless word DSC and an increment number. This gives me a lot of problems while finding and storing the photos. E.g. when I move some photos from my phone to a photo storing folder on my hdd, then the phone again starts naming photos like dsc0001, 002 etc. And when 2nd time I try to move these photos to my storing place, then I've to rename all the new photos so as to avoid to overwrite the earlier ones. What say fella!
VERY POOR SONY. Pls give us the proper naming method having date time included in photos title. It won't hurt you and help us a lot.
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ZOPFAN
You are right
I m having the same problem when organizing pictures... At least it should be squential from the beginnig of the phone life, like canon does. I think the nokia method is the best because it organises time oriented.
Like this ,its a mess... i dont want to lose time renaming fotos, and i need to put them in existent folders by subject...
PLZ if you find a solution, upgrade software or any app that can rename them by daTe will be great..
Thanx~
SONY XPERIA e4 DUAL, 2015

Nice necro-thread bumping...
And if we talk about topic its most... useless whining I heard. Every app and every system have sorting methods by date of creation/modify/name so dsc prefix is not a problem at all.
Also if you work with images for most of time, maybe you should use apps that deal with such prefix, even free IrfanView dont have problem with that.
Not to mention sorting by exif data, if you take image management serious you would know that there is such thing and this topic would be unnecessary, because there is looots of apps for that.

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[WIP] New Gallery Application

Hey everyone,
After wrestling with the HTC Album for a while, I've got tired of it not doing what I want it to do and have therefore started developing my own. I'm still in the algorithm writing stage but it's coming along very nicely as yet.
Here's some of the features that I'm planning:
Database Backend - This will be extensible through the use of 'tagging'. You will be able to add an 'infinite' number of tags to each photo.
UI - Will allow swiping through pictures and other enhancements over the standard app.
Different Browsing Views - Can browse via the database (and tags) or the normal file based directory views.
EXIF tags - Ability to read them. Not sure on where I'm going with this feature yet.
There's no time frame when this will be first released, but it will be out when I have it in a nice stable state, and feature-wise, similar to the HTC Album. Further features will then be added in further (quick) releases. I have a name of the application in mind but I don't want to announce it yet as this application is very much in progress. I also don't want someone to steal the name.
So why have I posted this? Well I know the good people of XDA are full of good ideas so I'm asking you this: what would you want from this new Gallery app?
Reserved for future use.
will you try to add in multi touch like the demo photo app of long ago that was never refined? i cant wait for you to finish, the htc album gets on my nerves too. it always reorders the pictures as it pleases even though i have "sort by date" selected after a wipe.
yea, add multitouch
As long as there are more sorting options ill be eternally grateful
Not sure on multitouch as I don't really see a need for it (plus can't be bothered with the potential Patent infringement stuff). I will include a nicer way of zooming in and out than the simple buttons though, and I think it's more elegant than multitouch.
Regarding sorting, there will definetly be better sorting options. And i'll make sure they actually work too. This is probably the number one thing that annoys the hell out of me with the HTC Album.
Have the ability to pick a folder of images or folders.
I hate using gallery on my phone and it picks every picture on my SD card. Kinda annoying honestly, but hey it is what it is.
Also implement features such as double tap to zoom...hate using the zoom toolbar
And auto rotate with animation
Refer to app called "Picture Viewer" to understand wht i am talkin about...its a nice app just lackin features...
http://www.cyrket.com/package/rip.android.GlImageView
an idea for zooming: clockwise to zoom in and counter-clockwise to zoom out ... i dont remember where ive seen that before but just seems like a cool idea if able to be implemented
xidominicanoix said:
an idea for zooming: clockwise to zoom in and counter-clockwise to zoom out ... i dont remember where ive seen that before but just seems like a cool idea if able to be implemented
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Hmm the app i refered to in the above post has zoom in / zoom out by moving ur finger up or down
Different implementation possibilities lol
Check out the Albums program from Hero. It has some nice features: pinch zoom in/out, sd card/facebook/flicker albums, swipe to navigate, slideshow animations, autorotate animation, grid or directory view, etc.
The tags feature you are adding would be great since I have them in directories for now (basically 1 tag only).
The ability to add pictures from a remote "gallery" server (or similar remote server you can run at home) would be great since I don't put all my pictures on facebook/flicker (nor do I want to).
http://gallery.sourceforge.net/
I think a zoom feature like this would be nice if you think that you could do it. You can watch it in action if you watch the video. It two minutes and six seconds in.
http://phandroid.com/2009/03/18/androids-circular-zoom-on-the-htc-magic/
What annoys me the most is the phone generating thumbnails for all 1600 of my pictures, I have to leave it there for 10 minutes or so to let it do that. My old phone, which a dumb phone never had to do that when browsing all the pictures and was way faster.
I second SolemnWishing's request. I would like to see the thumbnail part in the default gallery done away with in the app. Are you going for a complete default gallery replacement app or will this piggyback in anyway off the default one? I would like to be able to replace it completely just like the launcher.apk and the mms.apk.
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What annoys me the most is the phone generating thumbnails for all 1600 of my pictures, I have to leave it there for 10 minutes or so to let it do that. My old phone, which a dumb phone never had to do that when browsing all the pictures and was way faster.
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Hmm yea tht is frustrating, i hope the OP finds a way around it..perhaps read the images n instead of creating smaller ones it shud just resize the images n display them or somethin....
tmjonesva said:
will you try to add in multi touch like the demo photo app of long ago that was never refined? i cant wait for you to finish, the htc album gets on my nerves too. it always reorders the pictures as it pleases even though i have "sort by date" selected after a wipe.
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There are a few great features in the demo app. If you could get a hold of the source ... WOW ... it could save you a lot of time and give you a great start on creating a kick ass gallery app. Good Luck!!
I don't agree with the request to eliminate the thumbnailing. Thumbnailing is a great feature and only happens the first time you open a particular image set - it is then databased so the thumbnails load instantly later. A more customizable approach would be a better idea, like the option to disable thumbnailing selectively.
It would be nice to have the option of EXCLUDING and/or HIDING certain paths, for example, some programs add in their own images that you most likely don't want visible in the gallery. I don't like those image hiding programs that screw with the file extensions, and suggest that password protection and obfuscation isn't necessary -- just the ability to keep the crap out.

[Q] Camera file name numbering

The XZ camera names the pictures in the usual manner: DSC_0001.jpg, DSC_0002.jpg, etc. So far so good. But as soon as I move the photos to my computer (and delete them from my phone), the camera starts all over again. 0001, 0002, etc.
Is there any way to stop the camera from starting the numbering all over and instead continue from where it left off? My phone is rooted, so I do have access to my system files.
I know it should be somehow possible, because all my previous Android phones do so. I've owned Samsungs and Motorolas. This is my first Sony.
Hi!
You can follow the following tips:
1) Keep the last shot (with the greatest number) in the phone, don't erase it. The next files will be numbered incrementally starting by the number of the left shot +1. At least Xperia Z is doing it this way.
2) Install an alternative camera software, for example lgCamera or CameraZOOM. They have better choices of file naming, for example you can use timestamps, which never repeat .
With regards, Pavel
Don MC said:
... Is there any way to stop the camera from starting the numbering all over and instead continue from where it left off? ...
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Same problem here with Z3C. Very annoying and time waster. Interested in a good solution!
Have tried keeping the last file but even Sony's own pre-installed app that moves photos to SD card removes *all* files and effectively stuffs this up completely. How stupid idea can this be Sony?
Guys, this app solved my problem in regards to the filename being reset: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ro.ciubex.dscautorename
It's as easy as this:
Just put a jpg file into the DCIM/100ANDRO folder (where your photos are stored) and name it with the number before the one you wish to start on. For example, if you want your photos to begin at DSC_0501.JPG, name the file DSC_0500.JPG and the camera will begin counting from there. I tested this on a Sony Xperia Z5 Compact.

[Q] Change DCIM naming scheme?

Picked up an HTC One DE to upgrade from a Galaxy Nexus. I've had a few days to play with it, so now there are a lot of pictures on the One... the trouble is that my GN uses a logical naming scheme (eg,: IMG_20130503_215914"), while the HTC One saves them with just sequential numbering (eg.: "IMAG0004"). I have a ton of pictures using the GN's naming scheme and would prefer to have the One spit out pictures using the logical naming with dates in it like the GN.
Can't find any settings to change this in any app. Help?
Also a small gripe/side effect of zoes: it takes 20 pictures, and on the phone gallery I believe it picks the "best" one to display. I wish this was labelled somehow when browsing the dcim folder on a computer, because sorting through even a weekend's worth of zoes is turning into a several hour long ordeal, never mind my usual "hook it up to a pc once a month to sync/dump photos".
there isnt any way to change how pictures are named. zoes have rendered any 3rd party gallery like quickpic useless. ive had the phone for 3 weeks and i have 3000+ pictures on it due to the zoes. its also a pain looking at them on the computer since MTP takes forever.
cachookaman said:
there isnt any way to change how pictures are named. zoes have rendered any 3rd party gallery like quickpic useless. ive had the phone for 3 weeks and i have 3000+ pictures on it due to the zoes. its also a pain looking at them on the computer since MTP takes forever.
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What about some sort of post-picture naming script? I am no coder, but could a script be written to look at the EXIF info and rename the file with the date/time stamp? Anyone care to take a stab?

Camera filename issue

Hi everyone! I am quite surprised that I haven't seen this posted much anywhere (other than here: http://goo.gl/YMf4bb), and wondering if it's just something I have missed.
I notice that if all photos taken by the Z3 are removed from the device, the camera will reset the filename back to DSC_00001.jpg. This is obviously really annoying as that means I have to rename my old photos or new photos each time I backup my photos to my mac.
Someone has suggested to keep the last photo in there (as per link I posted above - http://goo.gl/YMf4bb) and there is an app that will help to auto-rename the media files - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ro.ciubex.dscautorename. So in case someone is experiencing this as well, hopefully that helps.
I just really don't get why Sony, with all its experience with cameras and such, will not do something like track photo filenames....
I do really love my Z3C generally - but rather disappointed by something like this (and personally I don't like the camera much overall)...
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spacebar76 said:
Hi everyone! I am quite surprised that I haven't seen this posted much anywhere (other than here: http://goo.gl/YMf4bb), and wondering if it's just something I have missed.
I notice that if all photos taken by the Z3 are removed from the device, the camera will reset the filename back to DSC_00001.jpg. This is obviously really annoying as that means I have to rename my old photos or new photos each time I backup my photos to my mac.
Someone has suggested to keep the last photo in there (as per link I posted above - http://goo.gl/YMf4bb) and there is an app that will help to auto-rename the media files - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ro.ciubex.dscautorename. So in case someone is experiencing this as well, hopefully that helps.
I just really don't get why Sony, with all its experience with cameras and such, will not do something like track photo filenames....
I do really love my Z3C generally - but rather disappointed by something like this (and personally I don't like the camera much overall)...
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it s not just Xperia phones
all phones whatever android or iPhone take photo by using this kindda code name
it s not the problem when u can simply rename every files on Android by using a file manager app
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This has always bothered me as well
Just put a jpg file into the DCIM/100ANDRO folder (where your photos are stored) and name it with the number before the one you wish to start on. For example, if you want your photos to begin at DSC_0501.JPG, name the file DSC_0500.JPG and the camera will begin counting from there. I tested this on a Sony Xperia Z5 Compact.

Picture File Names

So this is annoying me very much.
If you remove a picture off the phone, the file name numeration "resets".
For example, I take a picture, it gets numbered as DSC_0042.jpg. If you MOVE that picture off the device, the next picture you take will also be labeled DSC_0042.jpg, instead of DSC_0043.jpg.
This is terrible. Especially considering all digital cameras and phones I've ever used, keep the counter going. Huge headache when backing up and moving pictures.
I don't see any option to fix this on the phone, am I missing something?
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JCBomb said:
So this is annoying me very much.
If you remove a picture off the phone, the file name numeration "resets".
For example, I take a picture, it gets numbered as DSC_0042.jpg. If you MOVE that picture off the device, the next picture you take will also be labeled DSC_0042.jpg, instead of DSC_0043.jpg.
This is terrible. Especially considering all digital cameras and phones I've ever used, keep the counter going. Huge headache when backing up and moving pictures.
I don't see any option to fix this on the phone, am I missing something?
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No you didn't
that s the system counter
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