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Milestone available memory :(

My milestone run MIUI rom 1.7.8. Available memory is about 20-30 MB , so when I opened camera and taked a picture, It stucked there for a couple minutes. Then I rebooted my phone and Available memory is 40-50 MB, and nothing wrong with the camera ?? How can I fix the memory problem?? please help
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I do believe that's because when you had 20~30 mb free, there were many others apps running in memory.
The camera app froze the phone 'cause it had no free memory.
When you restarted your phone you had more free memory because you were not running all those app you probably were before.
Sucks, but Milestone's memory is really low

felipefill said:
I do believe that's because when you had 20~30 mb free, there were many others apps running in memory.
The camera app froze the phone 'cause it had no free memory.
When you restarted your phone you had more free memory because you were not running all those app you probably were before.
Sucks, but Milestone's memory is really low
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No man, I open task killer and kill everything. When I bought it , It had about 150 MB free memory man . So confuse ??

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mtnhan1996 said:
No man, I open task killer and kill everything. When I bought it , It had about 150 MB free memory man . So confuse ??
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Ok clearly you are new to milestone. The thing is when you bought the phone it was probably running 2.1 eclair or 2.0 which uses very little ram: it had the least features (no jit or a2sd) hence it's the lightest on ram. However you have to understand that since froyo google has been trying to add more features to android and use exisitng resources to boost performance and since Google's flagship phone at the time of froyo was the nexus one (which had 512mb of ram whereas the milestoen only has 256mb of ram) and so they used ram to boost performance which is essentiall what JIT is. So there's an issue. The milestone is already short on ram and 2.2/2.3 uses more ram which is why they are sometimes slower (not all, something like froyo mod or cronos ginger/ho!no! is bloody fast) which is why you have less free ram.
but over to MIUI which has even MORE features than stock gb which means it uses up even MORE ram which is why you have so little free ram. use this script, it should help the ram issue http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991276

thre3aces said:
Ok clearly you are new to milestone. The thing is when you bought the phone it was probably running 2.1 eclair or 2.0 which uses very little ram: it had the least features (no jit or a2sd) hence it's the lightest on ram. However you have to understand that since froyo google has been trying to add more features to android and use exisitng resources to boost performance and since Google's flagship phone at the time of froyo was the nexus one (which had 512mb of ram whereas the milestoen only has 256mb of ram) and so they used ram to boost performance which is essentiall what JIT is. So there's an issue. The milestone is already short on ram and 2.2/2.3 uses more ram which is why they are sometimes slower (not all, something like froyo mod or cronos ginger/ho!no! is bloody fast) which is why you have less free ram.
but over to MIUI which has even MORE features than stock gb which means it uses up even MORE ram which is why you have so little free ram. use this script, it should help the ram issue http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991276
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Thank you very much, so now I got 2 options ,right? I can flash froyo mod instead of MIUI or I can use the script to icrease ram a little bit huh?

mtnhan1996 said:
Thank you very much, so now I got 2 options ,right? I can flash froyo mod instead of MIUI or I can use the script to icrease ram a little bit huh?
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well yes and no. in my experience you can have miui with zepplinrox's script but still only have around 30-45mb of free ram whereas on froyomod you can get far more.
I liked using cronos ginger but the thing is feeyo's roms have a lot of bugs and arent updated to the latest sources which is why they are usually a little bit behind.

Cronos GB 1.5.0 is really fast. And yes, it has bugs, but nothing impossible to live with.
This is the fastest GB rom I've tried ..

thre3aces said:
well yes and no. in my experience you can have miui with zepplinrox's script but still only have around 30-45mb of free ram whereas on froyomod you can get far more.
I liked using cronos ginger but the thing is feeyo's roms have a lot of bugs and arent updated to the latest sources which is why they are usually a little bit behind.
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With the script, you can use slot 3 to choose how much free ram you want.
Performance levels out beyond 30mb free tho.
And android will make more ram available if needed anyway.

I use Froyomod and I have around 37 MB free after startup. I tried to play Cut the rope but it keeps killing it. Also happens with Google Maps. Could this be a problem of low memory?

ruisan said:
I use Froyomod and I have around 37 MB free after startup. I tried to play Cut the rope but it keeps killing it. Also happens with Google Maps. Could this be a problem of low memory?
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yea it is. but if your on froyomod why not try to use advanced task killer and zepplinrox's supercharger

Bored so much... My next is WP7

I'm bored so much everyday something has broken.
With stock rom I can't play dungeon defenders with my PowerSGX 540
And with sucked balls iphone is smooth on this game.
With CM7 browser is laggy and stock kernel is so poor. Look fps in quadrant. F...k quadrant score but just look what a poor fps. After flashing glitch kernel dungeon defenders is so smooth but now it brings millions of bugs.
And now accelerometer doesn't work great it lags on CM7 or MIUI with all type of kernels. And these days are end of gingerbread. We still don't have a great gingerbread or froyo.
I have a great GPU chip great CPU chip I will put all of them into my somewhere. F...k samsung sorry for offtopic I bored so much.
Now CM9 will come with a big "0". Fix bugs fix bugs fix bugs ... And CM10 + a big 0 fix bugs fix bugs.
When can I use this sh*t?
My next phone will be a Windows Phone 7.5 or something. SGS FOR SALE.

LOL. 10 Chars.

Stupid thread, no one wants to know that u r buying a wp7. And if u wanted to sell your sgs then eBay is a better place then xda.

There is no cure for stupidity..

Before I commited myself to a 2 year contract, i researched which phone to buy for a full month. Consequently, i never moan, ***** or whinge like a little girl.
What did you do? Pull your phone out of a hat?
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This guy has a point. I play with a phone, not games though. That's why Android is perfect phone for me

I am really wondering what games he is gonna play on Windows Phone !?

To those joking with OP...can you guys name one gingerbread firmware released by Samsung that is not laggy..buggy etc etc.

Well I'm using the following combination and it works like a charm!
ODEXED Stock JVR + CF-Root + Thunderbolt 1.9 60MB LMK + Arc Launcher 2.0.
I've got pretty high FPS in games and Quadrant scores are like 2400 - 2500.
Maybe you should try it? I'm playing 9mm wich is a 1.6GB game and works pretty good!

I don't play games that often in mobile,might try the above mentioned combo. I need a firmware that works,trusty alarm clock,etc.Samsung does not give a damn about the bugs on recent firmwares that's the reason i feel with the thread starter.

TigerCourage said:
Well I'm using the following combination and it works like a charm!
ODEXED Stock JVR + CF-Root + Thunderbolt 1.9 60MB LMK + Arc Launcher 2.0.
I've got pretty high FPS in games and Quadrant scores are like 2400 - 2500.
Maybe you should try it? I'm playing 9mm wich is a 1.6GB game and works pretty good!
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Lets try dungeon defenders. You can't even just open game with this combination.
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Just tried out Dungeon Defenders. Got real laggy the first time I played at wave 3 of the first level but I restarted and it ran perfect after that. Pretty fun game. Shame if I have to restart every time though as I usually only restart when I install new kernels and stuff or go for weeks of up time.
Big bottleneck with this phone is lack of RAM, and Dungeon Defenders wants a lot of it. It says 256 MB free required, well that's tough with 330-350 MB usable. I run Semaphore bigmem with 352 MB RAM (with stock JVT odexed) and I noticed after exiting the game that 205MB was free (in the 'manage applications' 'running' tab) and I'm guessing the game was using most of that. It's a very demanding app though, most run just fine. The only problems with RAM I've had previous to this is that if do lots of stuff Slacker in the background will get killed from time to time and that may have been due to LMK settings that I was using at the time.
SGS is a great phone but it would be even better if Samsung had given us 512MB usable RAM, then programs that need 250MB would run no sweat. Seems like 1GB of RAM is going to be required real soon for people that want to run the demanding games. My SGS has served me well but I'll be eyeing the new phones with 1GB in the new year. Shame because other than the RAM, and perhaps SD card speed but that is more of a want than a need, I could easily hold off until the following year.

haloimplant said:
Just tried out Dungeon Defenders. Got real laggy the first time I played at wave 3 of the first level but I restarted and it ran perfect after that. Pretty fun game. Shame if I have to restart every time though as I usually only restart when I install new kernels and stuff or go for weeks of up time.
Big bottleneck with this phone is lack of RAM, and Dungeon Defenders wants a lot of it. It says 256 MB free required, well that's tough with 330-350 MB usable. I run Semaphore bigmem with 352 MB RAM (with stock JVT odexed) and I noticed after exiting the game that 205MB was free (in the 'manage applications' 'running' tab) and I'm guessing the game was using most of that. It's a very demanding app though, most run just fine. The only problems with RAM I've had previous to this is that if do lots of stuff Slacker in the background will get killed from time to time and that may have been due to LMK settings that I was using at the time.
SGS is a great phone but it would be even better if Samsung had given us 512MB usable RAM, then programs that need 250MB would run no sweat. Seems like 1GB of RAM is going to be required real soon for people that want to run the demanding games. My SGS has served me well but I'll be eyeing the new phones with 1GB in the new year. Shame because other than the RAM, and perhaps SD card speed but that is more of a want than a need, I could easily hold off until the following year.
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Totally agreed. Flashing back to froyo now. For more ram.
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For games playing, 2.2.1 is only choice.

BHuvan goyal said:
Stupid thread, no one wants to know that u r buying a wp7. And if u wanted to sell your sgs then eBay is a better place then xda.
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Theres no need to bash someone like that. He's got a valid point in terms of games and the lags inspite of the superb hardware our phone has. After all this hardcore specs...gingerbread released by samsung is ****...yeah i know theres CM7...but come on...lets just talk about phone thats just out of the box...

i also just downgraded to froyo 2.2.1 jsd yesterday...its awesume for playing games......and i also applied supercharger script...i get lot of free ram.....
i had also tried jpk but jsd is awesume...

Well, every time I exit 9mm wich is a very demanding game, I get like 179 free ram. Also, the ARC launcher is very optimized to run on low ram (wich makes it lightweight) and doesn't redraw like TouchWiz 3 bull****.
I can't try Dungeon Defenders couse I'm out of internal SD storage all because I have a lot of games installed on my 8GB version xD.

Quadrant scores mean little to nothing in reality though.

Whole thread should change the topic to:
I'm very disappointed because I had no idea what I'm buying and what for I will use it.

well, for me riptide gp, dungeon defenders, shadowgun etc. run perfectly on jvt+doctorz rom v9+thunderbolt tweaks 1.9.1 50 lmk+loopy tweaks+semaphore kernel 1.8.2 at 1200mhz and they are like butter on 1300mhz. u can say my sgs has a bit of a better processor then most sgs out their. i get 4000 quad. easily with this combo. i am very satisfied with gingerbread and i believe windows phone 7 doesnt even these high graphic games so its just a waste of money to move on windows phone or even ios.

[Q] Dead Trigger lag problems on CM10?

Now don't get me wrong, it's still quite playable, but I'm comparing the performance on CM10 to the performance when I was on CM7.
Back when I was on CM7.2, I still played on the lowest graphics settings possible for Dead Trigger. This was because I was after the buttery smooth, close to 60FPS frame rate; on medium or high settings, Im guessing I'd only get about 35-40.
After I updated to CM10 nightly official, I never experienced a single second of the pure smoothness on the LOWEST graphics setting.
It'd be like playing on medium or high settings, except for the fact that it was actually on low...
What do you guys think could be the problem? One of my main concerns is the low RAM; on CM 7.2, on average I had 180-210 MB free. Now on CM10, on average its 120-150. I don't use any particularly RAM consuming apps apart from Viber perhaps, but that didn't affect my RAM on CM7 much at all.

I assume it's the RAM.
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In my experience, the games in CM10 runs, at least, as good as in CM7. Maybe you had an custom (overclocked) kernel in CM7 ?

Robin1985 said:
In my experience, the games in CM10 runs, at least, as good as in CM7. Maybe you had an custom (overclocked) kernel in CM7 ?
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No, I definitely not have an over clocked processor on CM7...

Like I said, I'm almost sure that it's caused by the low amount of RAM our phone has. If our phone gets down to like 30mb RAM it starts to lag pretty bad in games (at least that's what I noticed. If the game is running and uses so much RAM that it gets filled up almost entirely). The overall performance drops a bit too but our phone remains smooth.
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In my opinion the blame is on ram. When my phone has little ram, games have more lag in the begining of the game. When ram is empty, the game is lagless...

maharu567 said:
In my opinion the blame is on ram. When my phone has little ram, games have more lag in the begining of the game. When ram is empty, the game is lagless...
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I'am shure our perfect dev's will build oc kernel with ramhack and zram so we can enjoy all games and demanding app's :good:

i too experience lag while playing asphalt7 on cm10....it used to work fine on pa jb..

dead trigger works very fine for me, better than was on cm7. The fact is i don't heave many aplications installed, and i assume maybe this will be the explenation.

Yeah I am finding firefox more laggy on CM10 compared to CM7.....I assume this is due to having less free memory on CM10

One advice,install systemtuner app,turn off the process you don't want to startup wih phone and also freeze some apps you don't want to eat your memory
Restart phone after that and you can have free about 188mb at startup for demanding games

Yes, im use ram booster, and not have problem lags
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Ram ?

Hello, i bought the phone (used) a few days ago. it's great.
just wondering, there's a pretty low amount of available ram (~300-350 somtimes 400 after cleaning memory).
currently im running stock 4.1.2
so, if i will flash any cm rom or any other rom, will there be more ram available?
or that's it?
thanks in advance.

yoeleli said:
Hello, i bought the phone (used) a few days ago. it's great.
just wondering, there's a pretty low amount of available ram (~300-350 somtimes 400 after cleaning memory).
currently im running stock 4.1.2
so, if i will flash any cm rom or any other rom, will there be more ram available?
or that's it?
thanks in advance.
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why do you need more free ram? more free ram is useless, system uses ram to cache programes to start faster.

moneyvirus said:
why do you need more free ram? more free ram is useless, system uses ram to cache programes to start faster.
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Because it's frustrating to close apps\clean ram all the time. it would be nice to have about 50-100mb for extra free ram.

yoeleli said:
Hello, i bought the phone (used) a few days ago. it's great.
just wondering, there's a pretty low amount of available ram (~300-350 somtimes 400 after cleaning memory).
currently im running stock 4.1.2
so, if i will flash any cm rom or any other rom, will there be more ram available?
or that's it?
thanks in advance.
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that's it
moneyvirus told you right...
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Free RAM is wasted RAM... RAM is way faster that the usual storage. That's why the system preloads as many apps as possible, to start up directly, without loading too long. So, the more used RAM you have, the better. Linux is not Windows. Windows is known for its bad RAM management.
Also, 300Mb is quite a lot BTW regarding 1GB total RAM. Killing apps to "safe" memory is the worst thing you can do. Let the system decide what's needed and what's not.
Also, Questions belong into the Q&A section. Thread moved.

my friend , android works that way. it caches everything to ram so that is faster. you dont need more ram and of course u dont need any task manager to close the background apps. the system on its own knows when to free ram and use it somewhere else. if the case is u need to play a game which need more available ram than the phone can have ( for example lets say the phone needs at least 200 ram for the basic system functions so u have available 800 ram and the game needs 1gb ram then thats another case.) u can install swapper to use some disk space to do what ram does. thats all. but if u dont need or play such game then no need for swapper , no need to clear cache and no need to close background apps. if u think u will get more battery life like that , its also wrong. there is another way to get battery life. thats all. hope i covered u.

kessaras said:
my friend , android works that way. it caches everything to ram so that is faster. you dont need more ram and of course u dont need any task manager to close the background apps. the system on its own knows when to free ram and use it somewhere else. if the case is u need to play a game which need more available ram than the phone can have ( for example lets say the phone needs at least 200 ram for the basic system functions so u have available 800 ram and the game needs 1gb ram then thats another case.) u can install swapper to use some disk space to do what ram does. thats all. but if u dont need or play such game then no need for swapper , no need to clear cache and no need to close background apps. if u think u will get more battery life like that , its also wrong. there is another way to get battery life. thats all. hope i covered u.
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You told that there is no need for task manager , so what's the use of these many task manager apps ??
I'm really confused , because as I clean my ram the speed boosts .
So we should not use task manger apps ?!!
And sth else is that , why our ram capacity is 977 instead of 1024 ?
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jasin91 said:
You told that there is no need for task manager , so what's the use of these many task manager apps ??
I'm really confused , because as I clean my ram the speed boosts .
So we should not use task manger apps ?!!
And sth else is that , why our ram capacity is 977 instead of 1024 ?
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where do u see speedboost when you clean ram in android ? Really ?
the only case this can happen is only if u play for example one of my favorites : dungeon hunter 4 and forget to close the app. At least for some time until the os decides that ok u just forgot it there and close it , u have a decrease of fps at your phone ... eh ok if u forget to push the little button to close an app that needs a big amount of resources, then the task manager is usefull. The apps are apps. There are also 10 different apps to sync google contacs but why use them if google contacts are syncing by default if u dont close the sync ?

lol thanks now i understand
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this is normal with 4.1.2, I checked a Iconia tab with 4.1.1 and used less ram, V4.1.2 doesnt manage right the ram... try to rollback to 4.0.3 v10f or search a CM10.1 or custom rom which uses less ram :laugh:

no need more ram if you want more use swapp

RAM management with CM13

Guys, who have already flashed cm13 on their device, how is the RAM management.
I know its AOSP RAM management but how much free RAM are you getting on 1st boot?
Also is it able to keep things in memory like games and browser tabs?

@bsourav said:
Guys, who have already flashed cm13 on their device, how is the RAM management.
I know its AOSP RAM management but how much free RAM are you getting on 1st boot?
Also is it able to keep things in memory like games and browser tabs?
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I honestly don't know, I've never monitored free memory since using devices with more than or 2GB of memory (Nexus 4).
And I don't think it even matters.

@bsourav said:
Guys, who have already flashed cm13 on their device, how is the RAM management.
I know its AOSP RAM management but how much free RAM are you getting on 1st boot?
Also is it able to keep things in memory like games and browser tabs?
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On CM13 here and can keep about 1.5, 1.6gb free. But, multitasking just work! When I was on MIUI every time I must reload the app... Now I can hold apps and some games. I recommend CM

Multitasking work better than miui, you dont need more free ram, as long as system didnt lag, all working fine on cm
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