Now don't get me wrong, it's still quite playable, but I'm comparing the performance on CM10 to the performance when I was on CM7.
Back when I was on CM7.2, I still played on the lowest graphics settings possible for Dead Trigger. This was because I was after the buttery smooth, close to 60FPS frame rate; on medium or high settings, Im guessing I'd only get about 35-40.
After I updated to CM10 nightly official, I never experienced a single second of the pure smoothness on the LOWEST graphics setting.
It'd be like playing on medium or high settings, except for the fact that it was actually on low...
What do you guys think could be the problem? One of my main concerns is the low RAM; on CM 7.2, on average I had 180-210 MB free. Now on CM10, on average its 120-150. I don't use any particularly RAM consuming apps apart from Viber perhaps, but that didn't affect my RAM on CM7 much at all.
I assume it's the RAM.
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In my experience, the games in CM10 runs, at least, as good as in CM7. Maybe you had an custom (overclocked) kernel in CM7 ?
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In my experience, the games in CM10 runs, at least, as good as in CM7. Maybe you had an custom (overclocked) kernel in CM7 ?
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No, I definitely not have an over clocked processor on CM7...
Like I said, I'm almost sure that it's caused by the low amount of RAM our phone has. If our phone gets down to like 30mb RAM it starts to lag pretty bad in games (at least that's what I noticed. If the game is running and uses so much RAM that it gets filled up almost entirely). The overall performance drops a bit too but our phone remains smooth.
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In my opinion the blame is on ram. When my phone has little ram, games have more lag in the begining of the game. When ram is empty, the game is lagless...
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In my opinion the blame is on ram. When my phone has little ram, games have more lag in the begining of the game. When ram is empty, the game is lagless...
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I'am shure our perfect dev's will build oc kernel with ramhack and zram so we can enjoy all games and demanding app's :good:
i too experience lag while playing asphalt7 on cm10....it used to work fine on pa jb..
dead trigger works very fine for me, better than was on cm7. The fact is i don't heave many aplications installed, and i assume maybe this will be the explenation.
Yeah I am finding firefox more laggy on CM10 compared to CM7.....I assume this is due to having less free memory on CM10
One advice,install systemtuner app,turn off the process you don't want to startup wih phone and also freeze some apps you don't want to eat your memory
Restart phone after that and you can have free about 188mb at startup for demanding games
Yes, im use ram booster, and not have problem lags
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I'm bored so much everyday something has broken.
With stock rom I can't play dungeon defenders with my PowerSGX 540
And with sucked balls iphone is smooth on this game.
With CM7 browser is laggy and stock kernel is so poor. Look fps in quadrant. F...k quadrant score but just look what a poor fps. After flashing glitch kernel dungeon defenders is so smooth but now it brings millions of bugs.
And now accelerometer doesn't work great it lags on CM7 or MIUI with all type of kernels. And these days are end of gingerbread. We still don't have a great gingerbread or froyo.
I have a great GPU chip great CPU chip I will put all of them into my somewhere. F...k samsung sorry for offtopic I bored so much.
Now CM9 will come with a big "0". Fix bugs fix bugs fix bugs ... And CM10 + a big 0 fix bugs fix bugs.
When can I use this sh*t?
My next phone will be a Windows Phone 7.5 or something. SGS FOR SALE.
LOL. 10 Chars.
Stupid thread, no one wants to know that u r buying a wp7. And if u wanted to sell your sgs then eBay is a better place then xda.
There is no cure for stupidity..
Before I commited myself to a 2 year contract, i researched which phone to buy for a full month. Consequently, i never moan, ***** or whinge like a little girl.
What did you do? Pull your phone out of a hat?
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This guy has a point. I play with a phone, not games though. That's why Android is perfect phone for me
I am really wondering what games he is gonna play on Windows Phone !?
To those joking with OP...can you guys name one gingerbread firmware released by Samsung that is not laggy..buggy etc etc.
Well I'm using the following combination and it works like a charm!
ODEXED Stock JVR + CF-Root + Thunderbolt 1.9 60MB LMK + Arc Launcher 2.0.
I've got pretty high FPS in games and Quadrant scores are like 2400 - 2500.
Maybe you should try it? I'm playing 9mm wich is a 1.6GB game and works pretty good!
I don't play games that often in mobile,might try the above mentioned combo. I need a firmware that works,trusty alarm clock,etc.Samsung does not give a damn about the bugs on recent firmwares that's the reason i feel with the thread starter.
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Well I'm using the following combination and it works like a charm!
ODEXED Stock JVR + CF-Root + Thunderbolt 1.9 60MB LMK + Arc Launcher 2.0.
I've got pretty high FPS in games and Quadrant scores are like 2400 - 2500.
Maybe you should try it? I'm playing 9mm wich is a 1.6GB game and works pretty good!
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Lets try dungeon defenders. You can't even just open game with this combination.
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Just tried out Dungeon Defenders. Got real laggy the first time I played at wave 3 of the first level but I restarted and it ran perfect after that. Pretty fun game. Shame if I have to restart every time though as I usually only restart when I install new kernels and stuff or go for weeks of up time.
Big bottleneck with this phone is lack of RAM, and Dungeon Defenders wants a lot of it. It says 256 MB free required, well that's tough with 330-350 MB usable. I run Semaphore bigmem with 352 MB RAM (with stock JVT odexed) and I noticed after exiting the game that 205MB was free (in the 'manage applications' 'running' tab) and I'm guessing the game was using most of that. It's a very demanding app though, most run just fine. The only problems with RAM I've had previous to this is that if do lots of stuff Slacker in the background will get killed from time to time and that may have been due to LMK settings that I was using at the time.
SGS is a great phone but it would be even better if Samsung had given us 512MB usable RAM, then programs that need 250MB would run no sweat. Seems like 1GB of RAM is going to be required real soon for people that want to run the demanding games. My SGS has served me well but I'll be eyeing the new phones with 1GB in the new year. Shame because other than the RAM, and perhaps SD card speed but that is more of a want than a need, I could easily hold off until the following year.
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Just tried out Dungeon Defenders. Got real laggy the first time I played at wave 3 of the first level but I restarted and it ran perfect after that. Pretty fun game. Shame if I have to restart every time though as I usually only restart when I install new kernels and stuff or go for weeks of up time.
Big bottleneck with this phone is lack of RAM, and Dungeon Defenders wants a lot of it. It says 256 MB free required, well that's tough with 330-350 MB usable. I run Semaphore bigmem with 352 MB RAM (with stock JVT odexed) and I noticed after exiting the game that 205MB was free (in the 'manage applications' 'running' tab) and I'm guessing the game was using most of that. It's a very demanding app though, most run just fine. The only problems with RAM I've had previous to this is that if do lots of stuff Slacker in the background will get killed from time to time and that may have been due to LMK settings that I was using at the time.
SGS is a great phone but it would be even better if Samsung had given us 512MB usable RAM, then programs that need 250MB would run no sweat. Seems like 1GB of RAM is going to be required real soon for people that want to run the demanding games. My SGS has served me well but I'll be eyeing the new phones with 1GB in the new year. Shame because other than the RAM, and perhaps SD card speed but that is more of a want than a need, I could easily hold off until the following year.
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Totally agreed. Flashing back to froyo now. For more ram.
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For games playing, 2.2.1 is only choice.
BHuvan goyal said:
Stupid thread, no one wants to know that u r buying a wp7. And if u wanted to sell your sgs then eBay is a better place then xda.
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Theres no need to bash someone like that. He's got a valid point in terms of games and the lags inspite of the superb hardware our phone has. After all this hardcore specs...gingerbread released by samsung is ****...yeah i know theres CM7...but come on...lets just talk about phone thats just out of the box...
i also just downgraded to froyo 2.2.1 jsd yesterday...its awesume for playing games......and i also applied supercharger script...i get lot of free ram.....
i had also tried jpk but jsd is awesume...
Well, every time I exit 9mm wich is a very demanding game, I get like 179 free ram. Also, the ARC launcher is very optimized to run on low ram (wich makes it lightweight) and doesn't redraw like TouchWiz 3 bull****.
I can't try Dungeon Defenders couse I'm out of internal SD storage all because I have a lot of games installed on my 8GB version xD.
Quadrant scores mean little to nothing in reality though.
Whole thread should change the topic to:
I'm very disappointed because I had no idea what I'm buying and what for I will use it.
well, for me riptide gp, dungeon defenders, shadowgun etc. run perfectly on jvt+doctorz rom v9+thunderbolt tweaks 1.9.1 50 lmk+loopy tweaks+semaphore kernel 1.8.2 at 1200mhz and they are like butter on 1300mhz. u can say my sgs has a bit of a better processor then most sgs out their. i get 4000 quad. easily with this combo. i am very satisfied with gingerbread and i believe windows phone 7 doesnt even these high graphic games so its just a waste of money to move on windows phone or even ios.
Hello guys my problem today is heavy games like mass effects and asphalt 6
Problem is my phone runs those games slowly very slowly and I think it should be faster than this but why heavy games are slowly if we compare it with iPhone 4 (has same processor speed)iPhone runs them very fast so should I do something to run them vary fastwithout hangs thnx
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Try closing some background apps. Performance also depends on what android version you run (but I don't think you use Froyo, gingerbread is way better )
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GPU in Black is not first class. Actually it's rather old and even if CPU speed is the same than in Apple then GPU is much way weaker.
Can I use chainfire???!!!!
chainfire will make only things worse - it will emulate another GPU...
Sorry I mislead you - GPU in IPhone4 is comparable with that in Black - IPhone4S
just crashes Black's...
I don't have those games so I can't check how it run at my config. But Real Racing 2 runs fine on Black.
thats wierd cause, if my mind doesn't trick me, I remember when first using my OB for first time, a year ago or something, it had froyo and asphalt6HD and I spend hours playing it without problem before I even know about this forum...
now with the big wave of new roms, you can play almost anything you want
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chainfire will make only things worse - it will emulate another GPU...
Sorry I mislead you - GPU in IPhone4 is comparable with that in Black - IPhone4S
just crashes Black's...
I don't have those games so I can't check how it run at my config. But Real Racing 2 runs fine on Black.
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Sorry but I tried it with chainfire it's faster
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But also chainfire make graphics very very bad!!!!
no another solution (I'm using cm7)
I'm closing all apps before starting but it also hangs
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GPU in Black is not first class. Actually it's rather old and even if CPU speed is the same than in Apple then GPU is much way weaker.
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that is absolutely not true!!!!....the GPU of black is still on par with most mid range droids rolling over adreno 200/205.
and of the Iphone, i feel u r comparing OB with iPhone 4 and not 4S, since they are on par. iPhone 4's GPU is as much powerful as OB's. the optimization is of the light (read "flash" free )OS
my OB plays most games seriously well... i feel it's a seriously well balanced device for the price range.
@hemo ali: try and use a task manager before your game start to clear off and release RAM. and avoid intensive apps like browsing, streaming etc while playing.
or better yet, get zeus/marvel
thnx for advice I hope to use zeus or marvel but my problem is in rtl support
is Zeus or Marvel supports rtl???
also what about graphics can I use chainfire without getting worse graphics??
okay another big problem after installing chainfire drivers And i noticed it goes well
but now another big problem(priority is very high)phone full hangs and stopped 4time/1day And I should release battery then put it again why is it related with chinfire???!!
I use cm7.2 rc3 with heux 4.0 kernerl, with chain fire 3d with smartass2 governer.
I play asphalt6, st iv and ShadowGun.
I dont find any perofrmance issues.
The games some time lag, and I see in CPU spy the CPU is stuck at 300 Mhz, killing the game and relaunching it fixes it. I see in CPU spy that CPU is scalled at 1 Ghz
I use Zeus 6.28n and i play both games + front line commando.. and i have no lag and works fine. i didn't change any frequency.. i use RARELY the memory booster when i switch from game to game..
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I have a Motorola Milestone running 2.3.7 MIUI, I have lots of internal memory and big size SD card. The problem I have is running aloty of games on the Milestone is very difficult, For example, I would start a game the game would load, half way through loading, the screen goes black and turns to the home screen. I have tried Chainfire 3D and this works about 60-70% of the time. So my question is, does anybody have any ideas on how I can run games smoothly and makes them load, I guess. Thanks in advance!
that behavior is consistent with the milestone's lack of ram memory (it has only 256mb) i had one and the last game that runs ok is modern combat 2. and that with long loading time and a very variable framerate...
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I have a Motorola Milestone running 2.3.7 MIUI, I have lots of internal memory and big size SD card. The problem I have is running aloty of games on the Milestone is very difficult, For example, I would start a game the game would load, half way through loading, the screen goes black and turns to the home screen. I have tried Chainfire 3D and this works about 60-70% of the time. So my question is, does anybody have any ideas on how I can run games smoothly and makes them load, I guess. Thanks in advance!
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Start to flash CM7 it's like night and day with MIUI. Then... you should wait the official release of CM7 using 2nd boot option to boot on an other kernel. It will use a sort of swap that will allocate more RAM to your device and you may play a little better.
But the Milestone is surely not a phone to play on!
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Start to flash CM7 it's like night and day with MIUI. Then... you should wait the official release of CM7 using 2nd boot option to boot on an other kernel. It will use a sort of swap that will allocate more RAM to your device and you may play a little better.
But the Milestone is surely not a phone to play on!
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I was CM7 for about 6 months I got a bit bored of it after a while so I came to MIUI, I have the brand new update.zip with the 2nd boot option already. So when will the CM7 Official come out? and also would Partitioning the SD card make any difference? Thanks!
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I was CM7 for about 6 months I got a bit bored of it after a while so I came to MIUI, I have the brand new update.zip with the 2nd boot option already. So when will the CM7 Official come out? and also would Partitioning the SD card make any difference? Thanks!
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Partitioning accordingly will let you spare internal memory, that's fine but nothing more. Miui is cute but very very very memory hungry. CM is better for games. Actually the older is the release, the better games run, since there's more free ram. You should really wait a few hours/days for a good 2ndBoot with swap enabled CM7 build.
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There is already a ZRam (and swap) enabled CM7.
It is still beta and has some bugs, but been reported to work great with memory hungry games.
You can download it from HERE
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There is already a ZRam (and swap) enabled CM7.
It is still beta and has some bugs, but been reported to work great with memory hungry games.
You can download it from HERE
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That's not even a beta. I usually use nightly builds and beta, but I won't tell others to use it. To many issues at the moment, really (need to deep sleep after boot, battery use). By the way, Kab github is pretty on the frenzy way at the moment, so... be patient IMHO
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Its really not that bad. It does have the deep sleep bug, but otherwise I did not have any stability problems.
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There is already a ZRam (and swap) enabled CM7.
It is still beta and has some bugs, but been reported to work great with memory hungry games.
You can download it from HERE
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Thanks for the Info, I will try out the ROM, start a few games and see if anything changes! Fingers Crossed!
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Thanks for the Info, I will try out the ROM, start a few games and see if anything changes! Fingers Crossed!
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I have Tried this new ROM and it is amazing, you guys were right, The games do start playing and I have Chainfire 3D installed but not enabled just to be sure. Thank you all so much!
naeem123 said:
I have Tried this new ROM and it is amazing, you guys were right, The games do start playing and I have Chainfire 3D installed but not enabled just to be sure. Thank you all so much!
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Your welcome. :highfive:
OC 1Ghz, 256 SWAP, Card class 10, Compcache 26%:
- Reckless Racing - zero lags
- Muffin Knight - zero lags
- Aralon: Sword and shadow - all fine, but always 10-20FPS
- PES 2012 - in close camera zero lags,
- Bad Piggies - zero lags
- Inotia 4 - zero lags
- fruit Ninja - zerp lags
... No force closing when I playm, and Launcher, Market, GO SMS are still in RAM together
genziutek said:
OC 1Ghz, 256 SWAP, Card class 10, Compcache 26%:
- Reckless Racing - zero lags
- Muffin Knight - zero lags
- Aralon: Sword and shadow - all fine, but always 10-20FPS
- PES 2012 - in close camera zero lags,
- Bad Piggies - zero lags
- Inotia 4 - zero lags
- fruit Ninja - zerp lags
... No force closing when I playm, and Launcher, Market, GO SMS are still in RAM together
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I assume that with this settungs your overall performance, when youre not gaming is a mess
MY LG 4x HD have some lags in the game, not in hard core games , than poor games. It is for such a powerful phone very strange, and he has 1 GB of RAM , but for me is free just 300MB ... this is normal or what?
AW: Please help me, I'm confused
Go back to ICS.
On ICS I was having 400-600 Mb free.
But all games in this time consumed maximum 170Mb (Shadowgun THD)
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Nemeziz 56th said:
Go back to ICS.
On ICS I was having 400-600 Mb free.
But all games in this time consumed maximum 170Mb (Shadowgun THD)
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I understand you.. When I bin on ICS , I have about 400MB ram...But I have lags on poor games and on ICS and know on JB...This are not big lags, bus every 2-3 min playing , lags me on secund, and further is all ok..sorry on my bed english...im from cro
someone told " free RAM is wasted RAM " and this is true ....
games lags because bad LG SW, thats all...
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someone told " free RAM is wasted RAM " and this is true ....
games lags because bad LG SW, thats all...
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Yep, you are correct, free ram means nothing on linux based OS such as android. Best gaming roms currently are ICS v10d and JB v20b, they run games the best because the overheat protection is not as aggressive, but don't worry your phone won't cook
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i ran all games on v10H without problems of lag.what can make the issue appear or worse is running so many apps in the background,not all apps are made with good capabilitlys of being low on resources while in the background,remember launchers ect are still running while your gaming,they are still taking up resources even though its not on your screen
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i ran all games on v10H without problems of lag.what can make the issue appear or worse is running so many apps in the background,not all apps are made with good capabilitlys of being low on resources while in the background,remember launchers ect are still running while your gaming,they are still taking up resources even though its not on your screen
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Which games? Only certain ones were affected
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This thread is created to reduce off-topic posts in development section.
Use this thread to discuss my work for Mini 2. (recoveries, ROMs etc.)
Please don't make any requests and most importantly, use the search button to make sure the answer to your question/problem is already present somewhere in here.
Hi , that´s my opinion
Twice 10.1 or JB port , have a problem with battery duration (and other minor bugs)
the game play are so laggy ,and you really have a slow experience with diary use.
AOkp I think that is trustworthy to the JB use. but the same with lag .
Thanks for your work !!!! and I hope you get new roms updates.
Sorry for my english...
jelly bean requires a lot of more RAM than GB. That's why there is some lag, I suggest to use smartassv2 as CPU governor if you need performance, if you need to save battery use interactiveX.
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jelly bean requires a lot of more RAM than GB. That's why there is some lag, I suggest to use smartassv2 as CPU governor if you need performance, if you need to save battery use interactiveX.
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Is it possible to fix the camera now?. Since preview problem seems to be known now?
i tried installing cm-10.1-20130629-UNOFFICIAL-jena today but get an error 7.
factory reset, cache partition and dalvik cache have been wiped, i`m using cwm 6.0.3.2.
versioncm-10.1-20130611-UNOFFICIAL-jena works without any problems.
what could i be doing wrong ?
edit: i returned to the working version and flashed it new because i finally wanted to get rid of the gapps package i installed before.
however even after flashing 0611 again gapps still seem to be on my system.
do i have to wipe anything else i`m not aware of ? the target is a cyanogen 0611 or 0629 without any gapps
do you have cwm 6.0.3.2 build 4 ?
ohh! it`s build 3 actually!
thx a lot! will give it a try at once
no problem
it worked perfectly thanks again!
the only thing i`m still facing is that gapps still seem to be on the system from a previous installation, although i wiped the 3 settings mentioned above.
is 0629 supposed to have the play store, services and other google named services? can i get rid of them somehow?
edit: solved, i had to format /system /data /cache. now gapps and other parts of the previous installations are definitely gone. happy happy!
The performance greatly depends on the game you're playing. Currently with CM10 20130629 (the NFC patch doesn't work, BTW) I have good performance with Icy Tower 2, but micro lags on Jetpack Joyride. Of course both of these games run perfectly on stock, but Icy Tower 2 has some graphical glitches not appearing on JB. But Jetpack Joyride is a lazy port from iOS and it can stutter even on better phones. But the overall performance is just fluid. Will test Vice City later to see if a lot has changed since April 2013, when I lastly tested VC on CM10.
those "micro lags" are because of RAM. I had an old PC with 256MB (!) RAM like 5-6 years ago, when I played NFSMW, I would get freezes/lags each 3-5 seconds, the loading screen took ages to load, then I put in another 512MB and everything was fine. No lags/freezes, loading screens didn't load forever etc.
On cm10 and cm9 for less ram usage i went to Developer options, scrolled to the bottom and set background processes to 1 or 0.
There are no these options on cm10.1, right? I dont know did you mean slow ramread/write or high usage with old pc example...
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Ahh...the old-school NFSMW - one of my favorite games of all time.
But Android manages RAM differently than Windows, so 512MB shouldn't be a problem because it runs file on stock 2.3.6.
Looks like Jetpack Joyride stutters when there are certain sprites drawn. Seems to be some kind of GPU thing. If GTA VC runs better than this, I'll uninstall this crap.
That was just an example that RAM matter a lot in games. Temple Run 2 uses >100MB. Imaging what more demanding games require. I have about ~50-60MB free RAM when the phone is idle.
I have 210 at idle and still same lag and low fps as it is when 120 is free
Edit: cm9 has more than 100mb/s faster ram read speed than cm10, .1, aokp. And it has performance as good on 800mhz as cm10 has at 1.05ghz. Stock rom read is 500 mb/s, cm9 450, cm10 350
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Well, looks like that's the problem. I noticed that actually earlier when people were posting benchmark results, everything was higher than on stock, except for the RAM speed.
I guess there's nothing to do about it? It's all in the kernel.
Probably gpu performance depends on ram speed... So improving ram speed will improve gaming performance and overal performance of the device in cm9, cm10, cm10.1 and aokp.
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thanks for your job TheWhisp CM 10.1 is awesome like you thank you very much
I don't know which games you play but I play various gba roms and hacks via my boy emulator and it is very smooth. those temple run etc. do not appeal to me. If they were then probably I would have bought a better phone. but know this. Mini 2 is not a phone to play games.
oh and a question to @TheWhisp cm10.1 or aokp. whats the difference. which one do you prefer?
You fixed camera using same liboemcamera?
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