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I got a note7000 offer at a bargain price; half the price of the original... the idea is that the guy is selling it as fault emmc bug. He told me that wiping the data - factory reset caused the problem.
The phone works from times to times he said, is still partially functional, thus he still asks for the price of SII for it, which he wants to replace with.
My question is:
Is the emmc bug permanent? I want to buy it cause is such a awesome screen\phone and i cant afford one from retails at full price. My plan is to downgrade from ics to gb with safe kernels and hope it wont brick with odin as unsafe as it is already.
Don't buy it. He is selling a bricked device for half the price (I wouldn't pay that for a used but fully functional right now).
And you will always get problems with it in many different situations.
Its risky for me, but also rewarding. If you'd seen this particular phone, is almost brand new. He told me it wasn't used much and that is visible on the over all aspect. And god, i love amoled screens, even if pentile is infamous.
Could you describe what you mean by being bricked? -> the phone boots and installs stuffs, but from time to times has the flaw of getting stuck -> require reset.
Its on the way
ps. I trust that if i had this stuff happen to me, coming from a samsung product, i would be able to get it fixed somehow.
Congrats: you just bought a bricked device. I guess he used the repartition workaround which reduces available capacity.
He didn't do the only real fix: replace motherboard in Samsung Service Center.
If you read here more before buying you would understand my "do not buy". Now you will learn later.
And he didn't lie to you - he told everything about the condition.
If you want to learn now while waiting for it, start to read about bricked devices here, about hg42's repartition thread etc. You might need it
Well, wish me luck. I'm gonna follow the steps from around the topics here.
I just hope i can watch movies, and pictures, and browse the mail... then he can get stuck but just a little.
I got an ace on my sleeves though. I can test it before i buy it... any advices, maybe doesn't even have the bug, how i notice
that ?
I'm gonna try these steps on the clip from rootgalaxynote:
youtube - hDtTNDVcTF4
If it doesn't work, i'm screwed cause i do not have a replace phone atm.
Following those steps will only mean that you won't brick it again... and anyway that is really outdated... When you've had enough of constant freezes then you will probably want to try a slim rom such as Slim Bean 4.2.2
I just purchased a n7000 from a guy on eBay for $350.00. It has the Ultimate rom installed in the screenshots. This means that it should be fine, right? I should receive it this week sometime. I bricked my i9100 back when the brick bug first appeared so I'm kind of worried about this.
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Thanks for replies. I dunno what to expect. It is worrying, but probably i'll return it back cause is not worth the money if you put it this way "unusable".
He said to me to add a new sd card,,, i guess here is where he was just too honest. This confirms that there is actually a permanent damage to the hardware, especially the hefty 16 GB of memory.
My friend has the bug and he did the workaround , The phone freezes when you turn on bluetooth or wifi , And also the internal memory is low , but good luck with your's btw "restarting it from time to time" seems suspicious though
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KayKrate said:
My friend has the bug and he did the workaround , The phone freezes when you turn on bluetooth or wifi , And also the internal memory is low , but good luck with your's btw "restarting it from time to time" seems suspicious though
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Apparently that was a slight misleading. On itself doesn't restart. I got the phone right now. Is so huge even an elephant could use it.
Only freezes when i try write something thru usb cable. The ram is smaller, only 5 gb.
neier24 said:
Apparently that was a slight misleading. On itself doesn't restart. I got the phone right now. Is so huge even an elephant could use it.
Only freezes when i try write something thru usb cable. The ram is smaller, only 5 gb.
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Really? Then it might be double-bricked and double "workarounded". Each time lossing about 3 GB...
When I close my eyes I see the grinning of this a--h-le who sold it for real money.
That sucks...
Now I want to see if is only a memory problem of the storage sd, or is as well as for the last 'bastion' of my phone, 2GB rom... cause then i can install slimbean like i've been adviced here.
neier24 said:
That sucks...
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Why? You knew from the first day about the condition and bought it nevertheless.
ThaiDai said:
Why? You knew from the first day about the condition and bought it nevertheless.
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First off, i'm in a bit of trouble right now. As you can guess, i can do something about it, cause beyond this is the morality of getting into a mess on someone's fault. Now that has to be decided, as long as is not mine.
This guy told me it is partially usable, add a card, try fix it yourself. At 190$ i expect to be better then a S1 or nexus s which might easly outmatch this phone. If is a matter of pride. Just keep it to yourself.
Either i give this guy a bad review as is a site as amazon, where user feedback is noted, or i return it back myself. Is not the holly grail, is just a phone.
He told me is not permanent damage.
LE: I got some good news and bad new:
I cannot add videos, it simply doesn't write. It doesn't freeze my phone anymore, this time i'm using samsung kies. Good news, i can write photos and songs.
I'm half way there in trusting this guy that with a sd card, the phone will work just okay in installing stuff.
On the other hand, i dunno if the internal storage is damaged; can i install jelly bean? or change the culprit kernel? or should i live with it as it is.
the seller has a no return policy. so ur actually screwed. you think the seller is a noob and that he didnt know about the fix. sometimes being too wise makes u feel and idiot in the end.
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Do you guys want to help, or keep ranting?
qazibasit learn some english.
How i change camera setting to save all its files on external microsd card?
neier24 said:
Do you guys want to help, or keep ranting?
qazibasit learn some english.
How i change camera setting to save all its files on external microsd card?
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And now you are starting to get arrogant?
Even if I do not always follow qazis messages I do understand him very well - because Oxford english isn't a prerequisite here.
Members here can't help you: Why? Because you bought a brick device even when warned about it.
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And now you are starting to get arrogant?
Even if I do not always follow qazis messages I do understand him very well - because Oxford english isn't a prerequisite here.
Members here can't help you: Why? Because you bought a brick device even when warned about it.
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How was his random ranting relevant to this topic?
So what do you think... flashing a new kernel and formating the sdcard do any good?
I may have a different term for bricking: When used in reference to consumer electronics, a "brick" describes an electronic device such as a smart phone, game console, router, or tablet computer that owing to a serious misconfiguration, corrupted firmware or a hardware problem, can no longer function. The term derives from the vaguely cuboid shape of many electronic devices (and their detachable power supplies) and the suggestion that the device can only function as a large, heavy object.
As far as i see, this device has stuff installed on it, and i can't figure how he did it.
recommend me a memory error checking app if u know, please!
Flash a safe kernel and flash a new ROM.. Try that and if all works good we´ll continue..
As most of you who have read my various posts, I ABSOLUTELY DO NOT KNOW WHAT I AM DOIN.
Well, I finally did it. Kept tinkering and tinkering and I finally bricked it.
Using the Recovery vehicle I did a wipe of EVERYTHING, including the system. So now my watch says there is no operating system installed and simply boots to the Galaxy Gear logo. There is no system on the phone any longer thanks to me.
So fellas, am I done. Shall I go and purchase a pebble watch with rudimentary notifications and leave the big boys alone. I know a lot of you are saying good, we don't have to worry about him and his elementary questions any more.
If I don't hear from anyone in the next several hours for assistance I will be heading to Best Buy to buy a pebble or something that can't be modded.
Well fellas, I am asking for you guys to bail me out here and I promise there will be no more elementary stupid questions in the future
use odin to flash stock rom.... and don't mod it afterwards it's a freaking watch no need to root or install null. I have been rooting and flashing roms since 2008 and haven't had a reason to alter my galaxy gear..... no point
If you're getting the Samsung it's not bricked. There just isn't anything to boot because you erased it. BRICKED means nothing happens when you try to turn it on. Search for "Odin back to stock" and READ
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Very difficult to brick the gear, calm down take a few breathes..
Download a stock rom, flash in ODIN under the "AP" option.
OR
If your using my rom, you should still have it on your SDCARD, simply reboot into recovery & reflash.
If you don't have it backed up... follow these instructions toward the bottom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=46398598
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nccu_eagles said:
use odin to flash stock rom.... and don't mod it afterwards it's a freaking watch no need to root or install null. I have been rooting and flashing roms since 2008 and haven't had a reason to alter my galaxy gear..... no point
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Finally some common sense
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nccu_eagles said:
use odin to flash stock rom.... and don't mod it afterwards it's a freaking watch no need to root or install null. I have been rooting and flashing roms since 2008 and haven't had a reason to alter my galaxy gear..... no point
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There are plenty benefits to rooting it, without root I don't think I'd like the gear
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Thanks everyone for stepping forward quickly to help me out of my plight. A special thanks to Fomey who walked me step by step on the live chat line and got me back to running.
Everyone, again thanks so much. And I promise you I will chill with the tinkering:
Reading should be your first defense...
Srwilliams said:
Thanks everyone for stepping forward quickly to help me out of my plight. A special thanks to Fomey who walked me step by step on the live chat line and got me back to running.
Everyone, again thanks so much. And I promise you I will chill with the tinkering:
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If you don't fail! you will never succeed.....
nccu_eagles said:
use odin to flash stock rom.... and don't mod it afterwards it's a freaking watch no need to root or install null. I have been rooting and flashing roms since 2008 and haven't had a reason to alter my galaxy gear..... no point
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All the things I use my Gear for most besides being a watch require Null ROM and root. Without it, it's be a glorified watch instead of a complete extension of my phone and tablet.
Srwilliams said:
Thanks everyone for stepping forward quickly to help me out of my plight. A special thanks to Fomey who walked me step by step on the live chat line and got me back to running.
Everyone, again thanks so much. And I promise you I will chill with the tinkering:
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Now that you know how to get the watch back to stock, tinker away! If you screw up, you can go right back. I also wouldn't worry about bothering people with your questions. Post a question and let them decide if they want to answer or not. If annoyed by you, they can simply ignore your post.
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Texus915 said:
There are plenty benefits to rooting it, without root I don't think I'd like the gear
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Srwilliams said:
Thanks everyone for stepping forward quickly to help me out of my plight. A special thanks to Fomey who walked me step by step on the live chat line and got me back to running.
Everyone, again thanks so much. And I promise you I will chill with the tinkering:
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The best way to learn your way around Android is by bricking a device or two. Don't let this be the end of your Android hacking days.
alprazolam said:
Now that you know how to get the watch back to stock, tinker away! If you screw up, you can go right back. I also wouldn't worry about bothering people with your questions. Post a question and let them decide if they want to answer or not. If annoyed by you, they can simply ignore your post.
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Thanks alprazolam I needed that assurance,
Fletch, I agree but for the rooting and customization I would have thrown this device away. It is this forum and the members' development and customization skills and knowledge that has made this rushed out under developed item a piece of art and a more than useable tool. Not only have the guys here brought out the full potential of the watch but they saved it from being a complete disaster.
Before purchasing this watch I knew nothing about custom rome and rooting. I had to come here out of desperation because but for the abilities of the members here I would have thrown away $300 and this watch would have been sitting in a drawer collecting dust. The guys here made this watch one of the best and most exciting pieces of electronics I have purchased. Has the learning been tough and painful. Of course. But I am learning a lot thanks to everyone here and their patience.
nccu_eagles said:
use odin to flash stock rom.... and don't mod it afterwards it's a freaking watch no need to root or install null. I have been rooting and flashing roms since 2008 and haven't had a reason to alter my galaxy gear..... no point
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Yep. I haven't rooted this thing nor do I plan to. If I wanted my watch to look like my phone, I never would have gotten the watch. I would have continued to pull my N3 from my pocket to tell the time. Besides, how tiny are those apps on this thing with a custom rom? I've been buying the Note line for the screen size. I'm not sure why I would want a smaller screen. Just my 2 cents.
dkb218 said:
Yep. I haven't rooted this thing nor do I plan to. If I wanted my watch to look like my phone, I never would have gotten the watch. I wou
dkb218 said:
Yep. I haven't rooted this thing nor do I plan to. If I wanted my watch to look like my phone, I never would have gotten the watch. I would have continued to pull my N3 from my pocket to tell the time. Besides, how tiny are those apps on this thing with a custom rom? I've been buying the Note line for the screen size. I'm not sure why I would want a smaller screen. Just my 2 cents.
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nccu_eagles said:
use odin to flash stock rom.... and don't mod it afterwards it's a freaking watch no need to root or install null. I have been rooting and flashing roms since 2008 and haven't had a reason to alter my galaxy gear..... no point
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ld have continued to pull my N3 from my pocket to tell the time. Besides, how tiny are those apps on this thing with a custom rom? I've been buying the Note line for the screen size. I'm not sure why I would want a smaller screen. Just my 2 cents.
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nccu_eagles said:
use odin to flash stock rom.... and don't mod it afterwards it's a freaking watch no need to root or install null. I have been rooting and flashing roms since 2008 and haven't had a reason to alter my galaxy gear..... no point
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dkb218 said:
Yep. I haven't rooted this thing nor do I plan to. If I wanted my watch to look like my phone, I never would have gotten the watch. I would have continued to pull my N3 from my pocket to tell the time. Besides, how tiny are those apps on this thing with a custom rom? I've been buying the Note line for the screen size. I'm not sure why I would want a smaller screen. Just my 2 cents.
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Amen.
I bought the N3 for a phone and the gear as a watch. And it's simplicity is perfect in my opinion. Elegant and does what it needs to.
This doesn't mean I haven't considered rooting and playing with it like all I do with all my other gadgets, but in the end, to me, it's perfect as is. Simple and clean.
dkb218 said:
Yep. I haven't rooted this thing nor do I plan to. If I wanted my watch to look like my phone, I never would have gotten the watch. I would have continued to pull my N3 from my pocket to tell the time. Besides, how tiny are those apps on this thing with a custom rom? I've been buying the Note line for the screen size. I'm not sure why I would want a smaller screen. Just my 2 cents.
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You dont need to root to use sideloaded apps.. thats just a matter of enabling USB debugging.
You root so you can use custom widgets & wallpapers.. if your happy with the generic clock faces or watchstyler, by all means stick with stock
http://m.androidcentral.com/galaxy-s5-rom-bit-monster-taking-nearly-8gb-storage
This is proof that you will need to custom ROM this phone if you want to regain all that internal space that was lost.
I think that Samsung software engineers need to slim things up on their Touchwiz.
Makes me wonder how large the Note 4 software is going to be.
qipengart said:
http://m.androidcentral.com/galaxy-s5-rom-bit-monster-taking-nearly-8gb-storage
This is proof that you will need to custom ROM this phone if you want to regain all that internal space that was lost.
I think that Samsung software engineers need to slim things up on their Touchwiz.
Makes me wonder how large the Note 4 software is going to be.
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Root it - install Titanium and remove all the bloatware. I'm having a hard time understand why they aren't going stock Android ? It's by far the best and least bloated android experience and it just......works.........!
Just don't buy it. Wait for it to be released as a gpe model.
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frankgreimes said:
Root it - install Titanium and remove all the bloatware. I'm having a hard time understand why they aren't going stock Android ? It's by far the best and least bloated android experience and it just......works.........!
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If you are on Verizon or AT&T you can't do squat with it. Perhaps the GS4 is the way to go or something else. I guess March 25th is worth waiting for.
With Knox pre-installed, it won't be possible to customize it...
This is the END of Samsung for me
qipengart said:
http://m.androidcentral.com/galaxy-s5-rom-bit-monster-taking-nearly-8gb-storage
This is proof that you will need to custom ROM this phone if you want to regain all that internal space that was lost.
I think that Samsung software engineers need to slim things up on their Touchwiz.
Makes me wonder how large the Note 4 software is going to be.
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Check again the screenshot, it only have 5.28GB occupied by the OS, the rest is files the users put in there.
So you'll have 10.72GB available space.
frankgreimes said:
Root it - install Titanium and remove all the bloatware. I'm having a hard time understand why they aren't going stock Android ? It's by far the best and least bloated android experience and it just......works.........!
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Couldn't care less about bloat if the batterylife is good. Already suffered badly with Nexus. Pathetic batterylife (putting it mildy). What's the use of less-bloat if the batterylife is so bad?
BTW, I consider G+ integration as the biggest bloat in Android.
This is no different from what's been done before by Samsung and other companies with their devices. Samsung at least gives external storage options still.
System uses 5.28GB.
So you'll have 10+ for the user.
As you can see from the screenshot it is loaded with trailers and demos.
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Couldn't care less about bloat if the batterylife is good. Already suffered badly with Nexus. Pathetic batterylife (putting it mildy). What's the use of less-bloat if the batterylife is so bad?
BTW, I consider G+ integration as the biggest bloat in Android.
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Im with you. I love my nexus 5 to death, it's so fast and fluid. I even put purity and franco for the best battery/performance you can get from it. But still, battery life is not that good. I can get max 5 sot without playing games. And thats not enough. I cant have a peace of mind using a device that doesnt have a removable battery. But with my s4 and its battery kit, it's a pleasure to use. I can have 50% of juice left and have the battery kit 100% stand by waiting to be put. With this infinity battery life, i can have a peace of mind using my phone, even for playing emulators.
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harlz said:
Just don't buy it. Wait for it to be released as a gpe model.
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Then night as well get the S4 Google play edition
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Skander1998 said:
System uses 5.28GB.
So you'll have 10+ for the user.
As you can see from the screenshot it is loaded with trailers and demos.
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im just wondering if Samsung is going to release a 32Gb model right away or will we have to wait for one like people had to for the s4
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If you are on Verizon or AT&T you can't do squat with it. Perhaps the GS4 is the way to go or something else. I guess March 25th is worth waiting for.
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Out of curiosity (since I'm new to the droid world) -- Why can't you do anything with the Verizon or ATT model?
karmuh said:
Out of curiosity (since I'm new to the droid world) -- Why can't you do anything with the Verizon or ATT model?
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Most likely carrier locked bootloader.
noideaforusername said:
Check again the screenshot, it only have 5.28GB occupied by the OS, the rest is files the users put in there.
So you'll have 10.72GB available space.
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Yeah until the carriers (well the ones here in the US at least) get their hands on it & add their useless bloatware on top of Touchwiz, which brings me to my 2nd rant - Samsung or any other OEM has no business even offering up 16gb models these days. The standard should be 32gb at least & especially since Google wants to kill SD card access.
One to the Max
piscesjoey said:
Yeah until the carriers (well the ones here in the US at least) get their hands on it & add their useless bloatware on top of Touchwiz, which brings me to my 2nd rant - Samsung or any other OEM has no business even offering up 16gb models these days. The standard should be 32gb at least & especially since Google wants to kill SD card access.
One to the Max
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I agree about the 16gb part, but at most carrier bloatware will add maybe 512mb-2014mb. Which the major carriers let you delete some of the crap you don't want no problem.
harlz said:
Just don't buy it. Wait for it to be released as a gpe model.
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OR, we can flash the GPE rom later
Hi guys, i wanna perform a downgrade back to jellybean because kit kat really gets on my nerves for multiple reasons..
The reason i have not done this yet is purely because i dont want to lose anything i have on my phone, basically I'm looking for a backup programme which backs up absolutely everything i have on my internal storage, including 3rd party apps I've installed and set up, downloaded videos which are stored within apps and everything else pretty much THEN once I have performed the downgrade, to be able to just restore the backup and have my phone identical to how it is now only with jellybean instead of kitkat. Is this possible? Cheers in advance.
Titanium Backup is Good but sometimes gives errors.. I personally use Super Backup Pro it never fails very good for App and other items backup and restore
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For apps titanium for pics, mega, 50GB for free, never runs out like dropbox will.
If you're going to get titanium, pay for the pro version, you'll thank me later when you're restoring your apps.
Ok cheers guys, i will look into them all.
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Ok cheers guys, i will look into them all.
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NP m8.
PS: Spotted you without a thanks, put one on there for ya
dladz said:
If you're going to get titanium, pay for the pro version, you'll thank me later when you're restoring your apps.
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This! Especially when switching ROMs often, you will find the added features from the pro version helpful.
I was greatful for being able to restore the device ID so apps would just work like before.
elFlexor said:
This! Especially when switching ROMs often, you will find the added features from the pro version helpful.
I was greatful for being able to restore the device ID so apps would just work like before.
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Very true, using the non pro version will work but it's a mundane task to have to allow and then install each and every app one after another, very useful if you plan on testing different roms with your apps, the automated process is so much quicker and it'll save you time.
Half way through installing 300+ apps you'll be thinking of that pro key.
Plus the do deserve your cash, amazing app titanium.
When looking into these backup apps including titanium it says I need to be rooted to use the features i want. I'm not rooted and dont really plan to be. It's a shame really because i moved over to android so i had more freedom and control over my device and at first I had as much control as i needed with jellybean (more is better obviously) but the kitkat update pretty much made every sd enabled phone into a poor device. Plus I find the wifi range is really bad on kitkat but jellybean had so much better range. My point is that it's annoying that i should have to root my phone to make it as i want it and be able to toy with the settings when really it should already either have these features or be better optimised. Now I'm wondering if i should just root my phone rather than downgrading it? If i root it can i tweak the wifi range? And can I allow my apps to have better access to my sd card? Also if i upgrade to 4.4.4 can i still root the phone after? Cheers
If you root, it is easier to do on 4.4.4, and you can fix the sd card issue.
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Fantastic help from you guys, much appreciated. It's good to actually be on a forum without morons! Lol
Ok so im now possibly leaning toward the rooting route.. Would you advise getting it done by someone in a shop or doing it myself? I'm pretty competent but if it's a risky process then I'd rather it be done properly! Are there any good tutorials for rooting from 4.4.4? Also does rooting wipe the phone memory? Cheers
And any app recommendations for rooted phones that allow me to sort out the sd access problems, also apps that allow me to tinker with my wifi range etc.. Just any good full customisation apps really so i can really get this phone as it should be!
Follow my signature, its a one click solution and takes about 30 seconds
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Follow my signature, its a one click solution and takes about 30 seconds
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Cheers pal
Ok so just to be sure.. My phone is totally standard running standard 4.4.4, all I have to do is download and run the tool and my phone is rooted? I don't have to make any mods to my phone first to prepare for it?
I only ask because people mention locked and unlocked boot loaders, i dont know what they are! Or the difference between them.
Sorry for being a pain!
No, just download newroot, run it, then you are rooted and have recovery.
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gregbradley said:
Follow my signature, its a one click solution and takes about 30 seconds
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You sir, are a life saver, I've been deciding to go root my device but ha Ave yet to have a one stop shop to cover all what is necessary. Cheers mate!
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OK, I'm going to start by saying I know pretty much nothing about rooting and I may come across as a paranoid conspiracy nut, but here goes.
I recently bought a Note 3 on Swappa. In the description, the seller said that he had removed all of the AT&T Bloatware, but the phone was not rooted. He also stated that a system reset would restore the AT&T apps. Well, the first thing I did was a system restore, but the AT&T apps were still gone. Not that I care about the apps really, but it seemed weird.
Today, I downloaded the "Root Checker" app on the Play Store and it told me that my phone was, in fact, rooted. I also downloaded SuperU and it verified that as well. I've also gotten Titanium Backup (Root) and it shows I'm rooted.
I posted a message on my sale page at Swappa mentioning this, but the seller is adamantly denying that the phone is rooted. He says they use their "own process" to remove the bloatware.
My question in all of this is is this: Is this something I should be concerned about? The seller seems less than honest about the phone being rooted. He is a "trusted seller" which is one reason I bought from him, but I'm super paranoid that there might be something on my phone that I'm unaware of. (a keylogging app, etc...) Is there any way to tell this? How do I go about truly returning my phone back to its original state? I system reset didn't unroot it.
Any advice from people out there much more knowledgeable than me about this?
EDIT: well, I took andygev35's advice and restored back to factory. However, I enjoyed playing around with the things that being rooted allowed, so I re-did it. A huge waste of time? Maybe, but at least I have some peace of mind over the whole thing now. Thanks to everyone!
If you're worried about anything unsavory that may be hidden on your phone, you could always restore back to factory condition using the guide and files in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2838117
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andygev35 said:
If you're worried about anything unsavory that may be hidden on your phone, you could always restore back to factory condition using the guide and files in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2838117
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Thanks, and holy crap - just glancing at that it looks like a total pain in the ass. This is why I never bothered to root in the first place. Do you think I'm being too paranoid? Or is is worth doing all this?
It's actually quite simple. I know it may look overwhelming at first glance, but there's really nothing to it. Basically the easiest method is to use the all-in-one file. Just download that, put your phone in download mode, plug it into your computer, run the Odin program, place the all-in-one file in the AP slot in Odin and click start.
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andygev35 said:
It's actually quite simple. I know it may look overwhelming at first glance, but there's really nothing to it. Basically the easiest method is to use the all-in-one file. Just download that, put your phone in download mode, plug it into your computer, run the Odin program, place the all-in-one file in the AP slot in Odin and click start.
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OK. I may do this when I get home. Thanks.
Honestly though I do feel you're probably worrying over nothing.. But I'd go back to stock so you can obtain updates if you desire
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mrkhigh said:
Honestly though I do feel you're probably worrying over nothing.. But I'd go back to stock so you can obtain updates if you desire
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I agree it's probably nothing to worry about, but if he's anything like me, any doubt I have will always be there somewhere in the back of my mind nagging at me [emoji15]. Restoring wipes out any of that doubt.
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Don't Worry, Be Happy
Why wouldn't anyone want access to the root files in THEIR phone ???
You have root access to your PC or Mac, why would anyone want a provider to lock down their phone making things inaccessible.
You're not renting the phone, it's Yours (always try and have root access if possible).
google up moborobo and download it, its free and gives u full access to your phone, please download it and check it out -
You will love all the stuff you can do with a rooted N3 -
andygev35 said:
I agree it's probably nothing to worry about, but if he's anything like me, any doubt I have will always be there somewhere in the back of my mind nagging at me [emoji15]. Restoring wipes out any of that doubt.
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I guess what bugs me the most is that the seller INSISTS that it wasn't rooted, when it clearly is. Its a "methinks he doth protest too much" situation. If he just owned up to it, I'd be less paranoid. If he can't be honest about the obvious, it makes me worry about the less obvious.
I've learned a little, and I'm kind of digging some of the options available now that I know its rooted. Considering spending this Saturday to restoring it back to "normal" and then maybe re-rooting it to have some of the things that I now realize I kind of want. I'm kind of worried I'm going to funk it up though... Jailbreaking seemed to be a much easier process, and harder to screw up.
Since we now have nc2 Odin files you are relatively safe in doing a restore.
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ThePorter said:
I guess what bugs me the most is that the seller INSISTS that it wasn't rooted, when it clearly is. Its a "methinks he doth protest too much" situation. If he just owned up to it, I'd be less paranoid. If he can't be honest about the obvious, it makes me worry about the less obvious.
I've learned a little, and I'm kind of digging some of the options available now that I know its rooted. Considering spending this Saturday to restoring it back to "normal" and then maybe re-rooting it to have some of the things that I now realize I kind of want. I'm kind of worried I'm going to funk it up though... Jailbreaking seemed to be a much easier process, and harder to screw up.
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I too am a former Jailbreaker and am so glad I jumped the fence out of Apple's walled garden. I do have to say, at least Apple readily provides the latest firmware for their devices. I can't understand why AT&T won't let Sammy publish our Odin files. As @mrkhigh stated, we DO now have the Odin files (probably gained in some nefarious manner by a sympathizing Best Buy employee), so now you can safely let the experimenting begin without worry.
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I'm curious to find out if it is actually a clone... The HDC Galaxy Note 3 is a damn good clone of the real thing and it ships rooted. They are pretty cheap and can fool almost anyone... If it is a clone, he might have been selling it to make more than he spent and didn't know it's rooted.
If it's not, it is possible that he either bought it from someone else and didn't know that it is rooted, or it is a stolen device.
I would call AT&T and give them the IMEI number to check that. Do not mention root or anything like that, just ask them to check it to see if it's flagged.
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I'm curious to find out if it is actually a clone... The HDC Galaxy Note 3 is a damn good clone of the real thing and it ships rooted. They are pretty cheap and can fool almost anyone... If it is a clone, he might have been selling it to make more than he spent and didn't know it's rooted.
If it's not, it is possible that he either bought it from someone else and didn't know that it is rooted, or it is a stolen device.
I would call AT&T and give them the IMEI number to check that. Do not mention root or anything like that, just ask them to check it to see if it's flagged.
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Pretty sure it's a real AT&T - I took it to the store and had them check the IMHO when I had it activated. I finally just uprooted and flashed the 4.4.2 stock on it (I'm learning the terminology here so hope that's right) from the first post.
The guy is a trusted seller and has sold tons of phones in Swappa. He advertises on all the Samsung at&t phones that he removes the bloatware but does NOT root the phone. But, it was.
In the end, I'm happy with the phone. Seller was less than honest about his process and hopefully he didn't steal all my bank info, haha, but the phone works great.
You have to root to remove all bloatware...
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Good to know though. *cheers*
Yeah, I asked him about that and he said they "have their own process to remove bloatware" that does not require root".
Like I said, he was a little squirrely about it.
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Yeah, I asked him about that and he said they "have their own process to remove bloatware" that does not require root".
Like I said, he was a little squirrely about it.
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Im sure its probably because he sells a lot of devices and didn't realize the one he sold had root.
Then when he talked to u he realized that u r uneducated about the subject so he thought he would bs u.
Of course one would have to have root access to remove root files.
I still don't understand why ur making such a big fuss?
If u don't feel like u lucked out, (like the rest of us do) just send the flipping thing back!
Did you download free moborobo?
Before he downloads that app... Excuse me... Complete PC suite.
Why do you think he needs it? I haven't seen anything on XDA about it, other than from you. And most everything I find on google/YouTube is Arabic, Chinese and Japanese.
It seems you are trying to advert it to new users that are unknowing and willing to take advice from most anyone.
I can give 2 things right now that are the same thing and one of them does not require a full PC suite.
Oh... And they are well known on XDA to be safe to use.
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Before he downloads that app... Excuse me... Complete PC suite.
Why do you think he needs it? I haven't seen anything on XDA about it, other than from you. And most everything I find on google/YouTube is Arabic, Chinese and Japanese.
It seems you are trying to advert it to new users that are unknowing and willing to take advice from most anyone.
I can give 2 things right now that are the same thing and one of them does not require a full PC suite.
Oh... And they are well known on XDA to be safe to use.
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Yeah, you're right. I looked at it but it seems to be completely unnecessary.
Just a general reminder, use of unknown applications can be dangerous. Please use caution in downloading, using or recommending anything you don't know to be safe.
Stryke_the_Orc said:
Just a general reminder, use of unknown applications can be dangerous. Please use caution in downloading, using or recommending anything you don't know to be safe.
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Excuse me but this is not an unknown app, it has been around for years and works wonderfully !!!
I have been using it since I got my N3 at thanksgiving and it works great, installs downloaded apk files in a snap, allows you easy navigation to your entire phone.Doesn't spam you. It just works great. I'm only recommending it because I have USED it for 9 months, (and you guys can't even google it?)
Since when do mods and forum gurus recommend staying away from something they have never used it, or even spent 10 secs researching ????
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=moborobo+review
I was only trying to help OP out. it is a great and FREE app for rooted devices, sorry for wasting ur time OP -
(ps - I found the software while trying to transfer my contacts and sms messages from my 4s to N3, which worked perfectly and easily, (after trying other stuff). It was after that I discovered how nice it manages everything)